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Modeling => Projects Blog => Topic started by: Roboknee77 on February 3, 2017, 10:28:50 AM
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Hi all!
After about a year of playing I've finally gotten around to painting my first unit.
I started with a group of bad moon shoota boyz. I figured I should start with a basic unit to learn some techniques and see what works for me before starting on more complex models.
The tutorial I got on painting directed me to paint a base coat, then a wash, then highlights and then details. I think that worked well for the skin but not so much on the yellow shirts and helmets. It does give them a grubby, dirty look I think orks should have instead of looking vibrant and clean but makes the yellow look a little uneven.
Anyway, thanks for reading. Any tips, constructive criticism, and encouragement is always appreciated. So, without further ado, Bad Moon Shoota Boyz:
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Hey man welcome to the project logs. Wow thats a great first unit! Far better than my first attempt I'll tell you that. The paint jobs are super clean, with all the details looking nice and distinct. I like the colors a lot too... I love Bad Moons.. . you just don't see enough of them these days.
If you are looking for a bit of a brighter, more even shade of yellow, give Averland Sunset a whirl. Its a brilliant paint... nice thick coverage thats really easy to work with. Serephim Sepia wash will knock down the brightness giving it a nice gritty look too.
Anyway great stuff man. Awesome looking first unit... and welcome to the Project Logs!
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Welcome to the project pages Roboknee!
For a first unit Robo, they look great! Orks are great minis to get into painting. You're right, they're very responsive to the Base, Wash, Layer/Drybrush approach to painting.
I think that you're done a great job. The colours look good. Yellow is by far and away the toughest colour to paint well IMHO. Your yellow looks good though. If you wanted to have it retain it's strong vibrancy, as Cav suggested, go for a Seraphim Sepia wash on the yellow bits instead of the, I'm guessing Agrax Earthshade, that you used. Sepia is just a little softer and more complimentary.
Otherwise, great stuff and a cracking start to your Plog!
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I agree with Cavalier and Looshkin your Boyz look brilliant. I really like the look of the yellow because, as you say, it has a dirty look that really suits the models. I also really like the look of their skin and the leather and cloth details.
I find the bronze details a bit too bright and I am unsure about what looks like white highlights on the left hand of the Ork holding two shoota's.
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They're about a billion times better than my first models :) nicely done!
Looking forward to more :) orks are a great army to be building
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Thank you for your kind words. I guess I'm comparing myself to what I see other people posting in the projects blog.
Alienscar, I think those white highlights are metal spikes on the ork's glove. The angle of the photo isn't great to make them out.
Looshkin, Those colors sound right. The names of the paints are tough to remember sometimes. I'll have to try the colors you and Cavelier suggest on the next unit.
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Your boyz are looking fantastic Roboknee. I'm really enjoying the colour scheme you choose. I'll second what Looshkin said about yellow being extremely difficult to work with and I'm very impressed with your execution. Only one problem, there's only eleven of them. All kidding aside, let's see some more pics of your army. I'd love to see some of your kans or Francis the Dread painted up. Probably my fault for posting so late on this topic, but better late than never. ;)
Welcome to the project board, I'm super-excited to see what you're going to turn out next.
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Thanks for the encouragement Dog. Right now I'm working on another set of Shoota Boyz. I'm trying a mix of brown and yellow to get a slightly darker yellow based on a friend's suggestion. I still find it weird how paints work that adding white and black don't actually make colors lighter or darker. If that works and the yellow looks better I'll start on Francis the Dread.
It's slow going, since I split my time between this, pen & paper RPGs, binging shows on Netflix, and huge time sink games on the PS4 like Fallout 4. But they should be ready for my next battle with Wyddr in a couple weeks.
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Hi Again!
It took a while but I finally finished my second squad of boyz. Didn't quite finish them for my last battle though. Anyway, the advice about Seraphim Sepia for the wash was really great, thanks again. It gives the yellow a slightly muddy look and doesn't leave blackish splotches.
Next up, I'm going to work on one of my warbikes since they're becoming a staple of my lists. Should take less time than the boyz.
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Killer man! So stoked to see Bad Moons... always my absolute favorite of all the Ork Clans. Glad the Seraphim Sepia worked out for you too. Can't wait to see the Warbikers I'm sure they'll look great. Awesome to see an update again. Keep them coming not enough Ork players in the project logs!
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Looking good Roboknee! Looks like I've got some competition. ;)
I like how you've kept the colour scheme simple yet vibrant. There's nothing worse than trying to paint an ork army in fifty different colours.
Keep it up, you're really inspiring me to get off my butt and get back to the painting table.
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Ooo nice :) what are you thinking for basing?
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Great progress Roboknee! I think that the second squad of Boyz has worked out really well. The finish seems much cleaner and with better contrast between the colours. I for one can't wait to see your Bikers when you finish them!
Really great work Roboknee, good to see your army taking shape.
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Thanks everybody, it means a lot. All of you paint such wonderful models even if I don't say it in your threads.
@Ynneadwraith: You bring up a good question. I've never done basing before so I'm open to suggestions or links to any good tutorials. It was actually something I was going to ask Wyddr about at our next battle.
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I've never done basing before so I'm open to suggestions or links to any good tutorials.
I would say to think about what type of terrain you normally fight battles over. If it's industrial, do something dark to match - Cav has myriad examples of bases that would fit either rubble type surroundings, or moon dust or something similar.
If you prefer a grassy type base, pretty much all the models in my thread have that type of base (With Orks and the like getting a more muddy base, Eldar and the like appearing a bit more lush). I even did a little tutorial which can be found here: Looshkin's Everything Thread - New Orc Giants - Celestine (http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=229892.40) (Right at the bottom of the linked page)
If you fight over different boards, or kitchen tables, then search the internet and go for whatever floats your boat. If you find something that you like and don't know how to achieve the result, post a link on your thread and I'm sure one of us may be able to figure out a simple way to replicate the effect.
Anyway, great to see your progress and I hope you find something that works for your army's look.
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Loosh's advice is spot on for basing :)
Personally, I'm really lazy with mine! I've got a bag of sand I pinched from a beach when I was ~13 (turns out it's Camber Sands, I found out because I googled where the gift shop is that gave me the bag it's in) with some small tufts of static grass.
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Thanks Looshkin, that is really great advice. It looks pretty simple too, i just need to get some glue, sand, and little grass tufts.
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I would consider the grass tufts optional, myself (I'm even lazier than Ynneadwraith).
Tub of sand + PVA glue = decent looking rocky bases that take mere seconds to apply. Have a look at any of my Imperial Fists or Khornate units and you'll see how it works out. I've put static grass on my Tau stuff, and I don't think it adds that much (and also is a pain in the ass to use).
I've only ever based armies I'm taking to tournaments since that one time I would have won first place in a tourney only to get second place because my models weren't based. I do agree it makes the whole army look better. It just bores me and I hate doing it.
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Nice! Good to see some Orksiz here. Welcome!
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Thanks Dread.
Got a Warbiker finished. I wanted to work on one to see what worked before starting on the rest. I think it turned out alright. I might switch up the red, even though my bikes won't go as fast without it. Anyway, here is Krash, Ork Warbiker. He got that nickname because he is always the first Biker to go out from a failed Dangerous Terrain Tests because he's doing the un-Orky thing of keeping both hands on the handlebars.
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Hey Roboknee77!
Your painting is so neat and smooth. If these are your first attempts at painting, you'll be world class once your a veteran. Orks are a challenge for a first timer as well. All that flesh. So well done, mate! Keen to see your armies progress. Thanks for sharing!
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Great work Roboknee. I think you've done a bang up job on this biker. Smooth and neat with your colours, good use of spot colours and a really good finish overall. If you wanted to take it to the next level, I would consider adding a bit more contrast to the yellow metal parts - a bit more shade perhaps, to help break up the definition of the model. If you wanted to go one step further than that, a full metal chips on obvious places like the front faring would really add character to what is already a very good model.
You're making great progress with your painting and it's showing through with each new model that you paint. Stick at it and you'll soon have a Waaaaagh to be proud of!
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Looking great Roboknee. I second the recommendations made by Looshkin. I think you've accomplished a fantastic paint job and it just needs a little grittiness added. Making the metal a little dirty and grimy is easy by adding some agrax earthshade. Add as little or as much as you want. Little pools of it add a nice thick layer of grime. If you go for thick application, just keep the model flat with the side you are applying to level with your painting table and prop up until dry. You can also start with thin layers and build up successive ones. Nuln oil shade will also help add some dirty effects to the model. Adding some rust effects are super easy as well. Use some typhus corrosion and then drybrush with ryza rust for a very cool effect. GW does a great YouTube demonstration of this.
These effects though you can all add later. I know you're probably itching to work towards a fully painted army and it's very easy to add these effects after. Keep up the great work. Your army is really starting to come together.
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Thanks for the encouragement Saim and thanks for the suggestions Loosh and Dog. The tips for rust, shade and metal chips are they types of things I need, and like, to learn about. I think I may go back and make the spiky bits on the front wheel guard and axle metallic to break up the lines, like you said Loosh.
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He looks great! As for weathering, there's a dead simple technique involving a little scrap of foam as a 'brush', dabbing it into a small blob of silver paint, dabbing it again on the ground (whatever you use to paint on) until it goes a bit speckly and then dabbing that over tye areas of yellow.
It does a really good job of making the paint look chipped and worn :)
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He looks great! As for weathering, there's a dead simple technique involving a little scrap of foam as a 'brush', dabbing it into a small blob of silver paint, dabbing it again on the ground (whatever you use to paint on) until it goes a bit speckly and then dabbing that over tye areas of yellow.
It does a really good job of making the paint look chipped and worn :)
I can attest to that. It's called sponge weathering. It's really simple and it produces incredible results for minimal effort. I bang on about it all the time in mine and other people's threads! If you try it, do as Ynnead suggests; with one caveat - take off more paint from the sponge than you think will work. You barely need anything to be on there...and you can always add more weathering, but you can't take it away!
If you want to see how it can look, take a look at the Knight in my thread: Looshkin's Everything Thread - New Orc Giants - Celestine (http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=229892.20)
To weather the whole model (with 2 colours), it took about 20 minutes or so. I think the shield shows the effect best. I used a black or dark brown (can't remember which) to show the paint chipping away. I then used a tiny amount of Leadbelcher to represent where the shield was damaged down to bare metal. So not much black, then even less silver. Works like a charm, takes minutes.
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Ynneadwraith: Learn so much in this forum. Have been weathering the old fashioned, slow way. Thanks mate.
Looshkin: Wow! Your marines and knight look amazing. You've got some serious skills there, mate.
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I've been meaning to thank you for the tip, Ynneadwraith. That looks like a nice, simple trick even I can do. :P I'm definitely going to test it out when I have some free time to work on my models, been a busy week this week.
Looshkin, those models with the weathering look really nice.
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You and me both Dann! It was from Loosh that I first heard of the trick, and the tip of taking off much more paint than you'd think is really helpful :) avoids plastering the model in silver!
I think weathering and washes are two of the most simple wins when it comes to painting :) simple stuff that really takes your painting to the next level (which reminds me, I must do some more weathering). At least, it's certainly easier than wet-blending which I've never managed!
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I've been meaning to thank you for the tip, Ynneadwraith. That looks like a nice, simple trick even I can do. :P I'm definitely going to test it out when I have some free time to work on my models, been a busy week this week.
Looshkin, those models with the weathering look really nice.
Cheers man, good luck when you get round to trying the technique!