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dark eldar vs eldar
« on: September 2, 2002, 04:23:22 PM »
forces -

1 farseer
guardians with brightlance
banshees with exarch
falcon
rangers
wraithlord
stormsquad

archon lord
wyshes
scorges
warrior squad
warrior squad
reaver jetbikes


turn 1

As the eldar minds buzzed with ancient prophicies, each man (?) furfilled his fate.......with the main force holding back and the falcon wizzing towards the left flank full of warriors.  As the lethal squad inside disembarked, the rest of the army fully fired on anything that moved......but sadly nearly all the heavy weapons missed!  The bright lance ripped open one unlucky wych, as 3 warriors were devoured by a scatter laser.

The banshees assaulted a nearby heavy weapon warrior squad and felled 4 of them.....the warriors had never fully experienced a battle wen they themsleves were the tortured ones and they fled while the banshees prepared for the counter attack.....

The dark elder minds, each thinking of the gruesome ways that they could take revenge upon the banshees, so every guy just ran towards the eldar force as fast as they could, the gurls on the other side decided those banshees were too close for comfort and raced towards them.

The only men that weren't running away, using fleet of foot, were the scorges, and all of there shots wizzed past the falcon as it swooped around the skies. The assault consisted of the reaver jetbikes ramming into the storm squad, killing 4 of the seemingly tough men, while a warloack managed to bring a single jetbike crashing into the ground.

The warrior squad with slightly more boldened hearts were all armed with poisened blades (stupid beardy dark eldar!) and charged headfirst into the wraithlard, cutting a great streak of ghostly blood in its lower torso, but this made the wraithlord beserk as he smashed three unlucky  warriors to a pulp. However the darkeldar bad luck was unlikely to last, and it looked like the wraithlord was in trouble.....

The wyches attempted to destroy the fabled banshees but only managed to reach one banshee! The combat drugs allwed the quick wyches to strike first, but suddely the banshee maask took great affect as the howling banshee managed to plunge the sword deep into the evil being's neck but before she died she cackled a disgusting laugh.........

The dark eldar's numbers were beginning to show as the eldar were struggling with the latest assault the dark eldar threw...... But the archon lord was still in the open, and the scorges were in range of the falcon.......

If anyone posts a message on th bord i will continue the battle, but untill then, there is no point untill somebody lissens!

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Re:dark eldar vs eldar
« Reply #1 on: September 2, 2002, 08:11:03 PM »
Why did you shoot you bright lance at the wyches? where they the only thing in the distance that the gun could fire to the enemy, wow that made no sense. i guess now you'll have to tell the rest so i can see who won.

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« Reply #2 on: September 3, 2002, 07:06:15 AM »
The chief of the rangers uttered a string of words and all his companians nodded........the time of war had come! Dropping there long rifles, and drawing their pistols, they raced throuhg the ruins towards the beleagured wraithlord. The farseer had senced it too, the squad of 20 warriors with poisened blades would make short work of the wraithlord, and he commanded a small guardian squad to assist in the assault.

The banshees had no time to think, as each man met his wych, each awer that the archon lord was approaching.....

The falcon swiveled round, hiding in a clump of trees, aiming it's weapons at the scorges.......

Suddenly all the eldar units shot into it's prey, with the rangers managing to shoot throgh the shadowfield of the archon lord! The Falcon's scatter laser managed to dispatch 2 more scorges.

The assault was bloody and the rangers, gaurdians and farseer all charged to help the  wraithlord, and with a flurry of blades (and feet!) 13 warriors were beaten to death with a assortment of weapons. The remaining warriors killed 2 rangers, and killed 5 gardians! The reavers continues to murder the guardians, although  they managed to bring another jetbike to the ground.....

The banshees were being outclassed by the amazing wych weaponry as 3 banshees fell to the ground . The wyches were very pleased, but the exarch took atvantage of their own arrogance by killing one of their number.

The archon Lord grinned....his warrior squad was managing to hold up half of their army...the aldar are such arrogant fools. He carried on striding towards the banshees, with blood lust in his eyes! The scorges tried to destroy the falcon, but due to lack of numbers, and that annoying holo field , spirit stone combo, they failed!

In the assault, a act of defiance was made wen the exacrh challenged the lord in singke combat (i am not sure if this is against the rules)  and surprisingly the exarch wounded the great lord, yet the archon lord, obviously surprised by his enemy, managed to miss 4 attacks! The remaining wyches murdered the banshee, but not before she stabbed one in the neck !

The remaining warriors died at the feet of the wraithlord, the rangers returnning to the ruins, even though each man sence the end of the battle was approaching........

The reavers killed more of the guardians, but the warlock destroyed another thanks to his trusty wich blade, but the dark eldar knew that the two jetbikes could take care of one single warlock......

The farseer commanded his troops confidently, as the only remaining forces were a fleeing squad, a handful of wyches, and 2 jetbikes! The wraithlord, obviously still angry at the dark eldar, charged towards tyhe jetbikes. The shooting was a spectacular array of eldar weapons , totally destroying the rest of the dark warriors (stupid arrogant eldar even made the scorges flee WITH A BRIGHT LANCE) leaving only 3 surviivors....

The exarch and archon lord exchanged blows, eventually killing each other! The wyches stayed where they were......obviously realisin thatthe battle was lost.

The wraithlord and warlock totally destroyed the jetbikes , turning them into a pile of scrap metal!

The last turmn was poiintless, but the victory was for the eldar player.

It was a interesting battle and both learned important lessens (well, actually only the dark eldar did - support your units!) .  I was the eldar, and i hope i werent too bias

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Re:dark eldar vs eldar
« Reply #3 on: September 3, 2002, 04:40:00 PM »
    No, your not being biased, Eldar usually beat Dark Eldar. My only question is how experienced the DE player was. Most Dark Eldar players would have used Raider Squads, forgotten the scourges, tossed the jetbikes, stuck the Archon on a skyboard, and put the Wyches in the Raider. I still think you would have won, but it would have been a faster paced battle
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Re:dark eldar vs eldar
« Reply #4 on: September 3, 2002, 05:33:51 PM »
Nothing like poorly played Dark Eldar... not to mention at least one illegality I noticed; you can't equip entire Warrior squads with poisoned blades. That's character weaponry.

How big was the playing area? Close combat occurred on the first turn, so you must've deployed within ~20" of each other... Also, how big was the game in points, and how much more detail on the squads can you give? I'd like to know numbers, upgrades, etc., especially for the DE player.


It sounds like the DE player really didn't know what he was doing.


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Re:dark eldar vs eldar
« Reply #5 on: September 4, 2002, 12:46:23 PM »
well, i admit...itwas his first prroper battle, and i am not that experienced, but experienced enough to beat a new player.....i thouht he was quite a beardy player...he put almopst every upgrade he could get on the jetbikes...and i also disaggreed with the poisened blades....but i let him sinse i had about an extra 70 points......

He doesn't have a raider.....although i keep telling him that without raiders, DE are pretty useless, but with them, THEY KICK ASS......

he had 2 25 man squads....(prob against rules....but i didn't mind!), about 5 wiches, and a archon lord with about 50 upgrades!

He was quite good, but i managed to stop his efforts........

he had 4 reavers! (each with agaoniser and blaster.........)

he says that eldar online says that every man can have poisened blades....i  think not!

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Re:dark eldar vs eldar
« Reply #6 on: September 4, 2002, 10:06:41 PM »
heh... 25-man warrior squads... entire reaver squads with agonisers and blasters... funny. And the classic horribly over-upgraded Lord.

No raiders? Heh... loser. He should read the EO Dark Eldar forums for a few months. That'd shape his skills rapidly.


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« Reply #7 on: September 5, 2002, 02:17:19 PM »
he was also good at beinding rules....he would have a raider...but cant afford it......

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« Reply #8 on: September 5, 2002, 03:59:36 PM »
    It sounds like you've got a classic newbie on your hands. Warrior squads max at 20 units, only the Sybarite can use Poison blades, and if he actually modeled 50 Warriors with Poison Blades... well he could have bought a Raider with what he spend on weapon sprues. Don't let beginners bend the rules though, they won't get any better that way.
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Re:dark eldar vs eldar
« Reply #9 on: September 7, 2002, 08:35:32 AM »
for a new guy he wasn't that bad.....but now he knows the poison blade rule i think he will be bettter!

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Re:dark eldar vs eldar
« Reply #10 on: September 7, 2002, 09:13:35 AM »
Hello this is the newbie that fought sply.

Right i have contemplated my mistakes and i now know not to use the poisoned blades rule(apart from maybe the odd succubus or something.

I didnt spend loads of money on poisoned blade sprues. Nik was very considerate and let me give normal warriors with normal weapons posined blades.

I have revised my army list and here is what it is

Archon lord with shadow field + 10 warrior retinue

20 warriors with one sybarite with an agonizer

20 warriors with one sybarite with an agonizer

5 wyches with wych weapons

6 reaver jetbikes (maybe a few with agonizers, i dont know!)

5 scourges with dark lances and a couple of blasters

(coming soon) a raider with a dark lance 4 my wyches.

I am no longer the beardy newbie i used to be.

I have also revised my tactics and learnt from  my mistakes as u can probably see in me and splys fight against the chaos.
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Re:dark eldar vs eldar
« Reply #11 on: September 7, 2002, 09:27:43 AM »
Drop the warrior retinue of your Archon. It is absolutely useless. The warriors will die fast, you lose that close combat and your 'chon runs off the table.

Add weapons to your 20 warriors squads, splinter cannons and blasters. Another typical configuration is the sniper squad, 10 warriors with two lances.

5 wyches are useless. Get another five, and put them onto a raider. Add blasters and a suc upgrade with agonizer

Of 6 reavers a max of 2 can have agonizers (two squads), but IMO the best configuration for a reaver squad is 5-6 reavers, two with blasters, succubus (included in the number) with power weapon (!, not agonizer), t-helm and haywires.

Scourges can't ever have blasters. You have do decide between lances (extremely difficult to use) and splinter cannons (difficult to use).

Get at least four raiders. And a ravager. You'll need them. Footslogging close combat units such as your Lord and the Wyches are useless. They need a transport (Maybe join the wyches with that Lord). Additionally you need raider squads in order to screen them, to give fire support and to tie up shooty units in close combat.

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« Reply #12 on: September 7, 2002, 11:24:38 AM »
my army on the other hand is also growing.....

i am adding a reaper squad, that will work alongside the farseer, i would get a avater, but i am saving up for a wave serpent and all the little bits to convert one!

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« Reply #13 on: September 7, 2002, 04:13:13 PM »
Ok, hows this then?

I am selling off my scourges for 5 pounds each to this sucker who thinks i painted them well. (cant blame him)
 Also, i know omnly have 2 reavers left cos i sold them for 8 ppounds each.
Also i have sold off a few warirrors 4 about 2 quid each to thwe sucker guy (when will he learn) so here is my new army list:

9 warriors (snipers) with 2 Dark Lances and 2 Blasters
1 sybarite to go with that squad (can u guys help me decide what to give him!)

14 Normal warriors  + 2 sybarites (i need help here aswell)

2 reaver jetbikes with normal weapons and agonizers (these willl be the only 2)

4 Whyches with wych weapons +1 succubus (help please!)

Archon lord with shadow field and tormentor helm

With all the money i made from the sucker i am goinng to get some stuff (advise me please)



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« Reply #14 on: September 7, 2002, 04:22:14 PM »
hehehehe.......

i doubt that was a lie! get another reaver, u need 3 anyway!  r u allowed more than 1  sybarite in a single squad?

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« Reply #15 on: September 7, 2002, 09:06:18 PM »
Yes you need at least three reavers to have a legal squad. Only one of the reavers in a squad can be upgraded to a succubus and have extra wargear, such as a power weapon (recommended on a reaver suc) or an agonizer (recommended on anything except a reaver suc).

Only one sybarithe per squad. There may always be only one character, the only exception to this rule are Tyranids.

I think there shouldn't be a sybarithe in your sniper squad. Sniper squads are made for long range fire support, not for close combat, and that's what sybs are for. He'll never see close combat, as well you the blasters will rarely be used in a sniper squad. But better find out for yourself.

5 wyches are useless. Get another five, put them on a raider, as i suggested in my previous post here.

The Archon/Dracon should be equipped with shadow field, drugs, and agonizer+splinter pistol or punisher+t_helm+maybe animus. Always use rerolls as drug effect, additionally A+1 with the agonizer or S+1 with the punisher.

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Re:dark eldar vs eldar
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2002, 01:29:18 PM »
Ok then, 1 sybarite in my whole army. I might not give my archon lord all those upgrades because it seems pretty beardy to me.

I am getting a raider soon, but i am going to add a succubus to my reaver squad before i get that
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Re:dark eldar vs eldar
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2002, 03:18:42 PM »
archon with shadow field and tormenter helm is not beardy.

What I would do is try to sell the other two reavers. Take some raider squads (2-3) a pair of dark lance squads (or one if you are in a shortage of points/money)
Add 5 to the wych squad and mount em on a raider.
DO you have a ravager? If not, get one. I usually put the archon (agoniser or punisher, shadow field) with the wyches.
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Re:dark eldar vs eldar
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2002, 03:34:05 PM »
its useless suggesting all this wen the only reason he doesn't have all this, is he is broke , and has bin for a g e s

 


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