Topic: Eighth Edition News

[The GrimSqueaker]

As stated, fortifications follow the same system as everyone else with S, T, W, and a S+.
http://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/20/new-warhammer-40000-stronghold-assault-may20gw-homepage-post-4/

[Wyddr]

It will be interesting to see when and how their stats degrade. Will they have close combat attacks? Hmmm...

[The GrimSqueaker]

We can at least be certain they won't, in the majority of cases, be charging anyone.

[Wyddr]

We can at least be certain they won't, in the majority of cases, be charging anyone.

In Soviet Russia, ramparts assault YOU!

In all honesty, I wouldn't put it past the orks.

[The GrimSqueaker]

I was thinking more Tyranids and way out there Necrons. Where what you may think was solid is more a case of conceptual reality.

[Fenris]

I could definitely see a Necron building stalking characters with an aura lowering their stats in some way.
I'd definitely be a bit concerned with a greenglowing barn following me around, jinxing whatever I do.

With T10+ on buildings I think vehicles with T10+ will be rare.

[Wyddr]

I could definitely see a Necron building stalking characters with an aura lowering their stats in some way.
I'd definitely be a bit concerned with a greenglowing barn following me around, jinxing whatever I do.

This image is hilarious.

And, incidentally, not all that dissimilar from a Monolith.

With T10+ on buildings I think vehicles with T10+ will be rare.

I think you're right. Baneblades/Titans, maybe.

[Cavalier]

Really happy about these being included in the main rule set. I think the toughest part of organizing these games was getting a good rule set that was easily available to people. These rules would always be released at the END of an edition too... so I'd pick them up, the ruleset would change over and half the stuff would be invalidated. Nice to see its ready at launch.

These type of games are what I'm primarily interested in playing too. Can't wait

[Saim-Dann]

It's all horsepucky till 8th ed arrives.

[Fenris]

Transports are up:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/21/new-warhammer-40000-transports-may21gw-homepage-post-4/

Assaulting from transports has been confirmed.
Looking at the speed of the transport, Aeldari infantry getting M8 is a qualified guess.

Still if your assault unit has pistols, they do not really need to disembark for the assault, just stay on board and fire pistols while the transport tanks all the wounds.

[faitherun (Fay-ith-er-run)]

I foresee DE, Quins, and Eldar to a lesser extent moving that transport behind the squad they are bout to charge so the unit can't fall back....

Same effect but now we have to really work for it... I really like the tactical flexibility there.

Although I am sad to see that a Lucky lascannon could still drop a vehicle (starweaver yes) in one shot... I am hoping my starweavers can retain some form of invul save...

[Katamari Damacy]

Imo it's safe to assume that Harlequins will keep their ++Saves, including their vehicles (because: confirmed for DE). Also, after reading about the Tyranid Faction focus I'm curious as to how basic Harlequins will look ruleswise. They'll dread the 1s when their Starweavers explode but seeing what Genestealers might do in CC, I'm expecting some really crazy things for the clows 

[Irisado]

Those rules for transports look very promising to me.  It seems that they are going to be sufficiently simple, yet be sufficiently flexible to be of use.

[The GrimSqueaker]

and here are the Swarms.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/21/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-tyranids/

[Cavalier]

I cannot tell you guys how freaking stoked I am! Assaulting out of a transport has been the #1 thing (in addition to short time for games) that I've wanted. Oh man this is such great news for assault armies... Berserkers + Blood Angels + Space Wolves + Carcharodons etc. using Rhinos, Scorpions + Banshees + Storm Guardians all assaulting out of Serpents... wow. Also the transports charging in to absorb overwatch? With Dark Eldar this is soooo thematic especially when taking chainsnare upgrades and the like. I remember in 3rd ed. Wave Serpents had a similar upgrade...

The combo I'm super excited about is taking 6 Dragons + 6 Banshees riding in the same Serpent... Dragons pop the enemy transport and Banshees assault the contents. Such a points saver too with units hitching a ride in the same transport. Damn! Great, great news.

Also to a lesser extent I was listening to Signals from the Frontline and Reece confirmed that he and Frankie were playing games well above 1850pts in 60-90 minutes. Fantastic! I also think he let slip cover not affecting charging units... so Incubi no longer have to go last when assaulting units in cover! Great news for the Visarch too.

The Tyranid reveal was sick too. The Genestealers look nasty! With assault out of reserves all but confirmed its a huge buff to them. Tyranids are hands down my favorite army to play against. I'm really looking forward to them becoming popular again.

Today's update was fantastic all around. Definitely the most excited I've been throughout this whole deal.

[magenb]

Transports are up:
http://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/21/new-warhammer-40000-transports-may21gw-homepage-post-4/

Assaulting from transports has been confirmed.
Looking at the speed of the transport, Aeldari infantry getting M8 is a qualified guess.

Still if your assault unit has pistols, they do not really need to disembark for the assault, just stay on board and fire pistols while the transport tanks all the wounds.

Yes we can assault from transports, but you can only disembark BEFORE the transport moves, so it messes up shooting and assaulting still takes 2 turns to setup. Given disembarking happens at the start of the movement phase does that mean you can disembark after DS?

The combo I'm super excited about is taking 6 Dragons + 6 Banshees riding in the same Serpent... Dragons pop the enemy transport and Banshees assault the contents. Such a points saver too with units hitching a ride in the same transport. Damn! Great, great news.

Disembarking at the start of the movement phase stuffs that combo up a bit, it gives your enemy a chance to hit the gas and certainly get out of melta range, if not out of range entirely.

Light skimmers should be T6. Right now lasgun and bolters wound it on the same roll.

[Grand Master Lomandalis]

Light skimmers should be T6. Right now lasgun and bolters wound it on the same roll.

Heavy Bolters got a huge boost by now causing damage on 4+ instead of 5+.

[Wyddr]

The new assaulting from transports is the same as it was in 5th ed, if memory serves. Wasn't that crazy then, isn't now. Guess it depends on how tough the vehicle is.

[Grand Master Lomandalis]

The new assaulting from transports is the same as it was in 5th ed, if memory serves. Wasn't that crazy then, isn't now. Guess it depends on how tough the vehicle is.

Wasn't 5th the edition where they flat out removed assaulting from transports, and 4th where they allowed it if the vehicle didn't move first?

All of these old editions are blending together in the mishmash of what used to be allowed.

[Wyddr]

You might be right, but I'm not sure. In any case, the enemy has a turn to react. That's good. No Rhino rush.