Topic: beating Saim Hann army

[syth773]

anyway, i have a puzzle for DE players.  what do you do against a Saim Hann army which consists of lots of squads of vipers, each having scatter laser, shuriken cannon upgrade and crystal targetting matrix?  i have played with and against this army and it is nasty vrs DE.  lots and lots of S6 shots will take out both raiders and even ravagers pretty quickly and CTM keeps the vypers out of LOS.  once DE vehicles are gone it doesnt matter what ground troops you have because CTM will continue to keep the enemy out of LOS of any dark lances or whatnot.  main problem is that all the advantages of DE in assault are lots.  archon, dracon, wytches, warriors, grots, incubi, even the talos for the most part are useless.  anyone have suggestions?

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A wych cult.

Ravager
3 dl

5 wyches (WW)
2 blasters
all with haywire gernades
Raider, dl

[DraconKhadect]

the vypers are just as easy to take out as your raiders! Dissies work WONDERS against vypers. the blast counts as two hits so its toast.

i would take a dissie on all your raiders and ravagers.

i would take a reaver jet bike squad with 2 blasters and haywire grenades.

i would take around 3 snipe squads.

i would take 2 ravagers and a talos.

now most people will see a talos and naturally want to shoot it. only vets will go...oh a talos ptth it can do zero to my army. so if you know your oponent knows about the talos then take another ravager this one with 3 dl.

everything else should be filler. your raider squads should take dl and blaster. dl yes i said dark lance

drop them off in cover and use your raider to distract him.

scourges with darklances also. deep strike them into cover hope they don't die as they come in and start shooting the next turn.  either way you can always match his speed. and you can always take more than enough tank busting weapons to make his head spin. vypers should not be a problem with you 3 dissie ravagers. 

take night shields on the ravagers you to give you that "edge"

[syth773]

i think what would probably decide the game would be how much cover is on the board.  if the eldar player can just hide behind trees the whole time it is hard to root him out, if there is just 1 building in the center of the board it will be kinda hard for him to hide a half dozen vipers behind it

[DraconKhadect]

i agree also the mission

if you play ambush he could easily get most his stuff off the board. just take dissies though he can only take one falcon i think. but vypers fall in droves to dissies.