Topic: Emperor's Dragons going off agasint the evil dirty eldar! (1500 pts list)

[Catachan Devil Sniper]

i havent used SM (other than deathwatch) for about a year now and i got some (thx Alex!) and my friend just got some eldar so we are going to have a battle this saturday. he likes to get in close and blast away. but the good thing is that my bolters have a longer range than his weapons . from what i know, he has 5 warp spinders, a bunch of guardens, 1 farseer, 10 rangers upgraded as pathfinders, and some support platforms. i was going to have all my marines in drop pods but i cant get all the drop pods done in one week with finals this week! my plan is to stay in cover or near cover and blast away. i dont like small battles but this will be ok. also it will be odd cuz i will not have any tanks or vechiles at all. o well. lets see the list!


HQ


Master Commander Hans-130 pts
Terminator Armour
Storm Bolter
Power Sword
Purity Seals
Storm Shield


Epistolary Liberarian Mordekai-261 pts
Plasma Pistol
Frag Grenades
Terminator Honors
Fear of the Darkness
Might of Heroes
Artificer Armour
Iron Halo
Adamantine Mantle
Familiar

ELITES

Terminator Sqd ‘Emperor’s Fist’-220 pts
Terminators X5
2 Assault Cannons

Techmarine Borroleth-185 pts
Servo Harness
Terminator Honors
Gun Servitor with Plasma Cannon
Gun Servitor with Heavy Bolter


TROOPS

Scout Sqd ‘Wolfenstein’-156 pts
Veteran Sgt Frey: Bolt Pistol, Power  Weapon, Terminator Honors
Scout with Shotgun
Scout with Bolter X5
Scout with Sniper Rifle
Scout with Heavy Bolter

Tactical Sqd ‘Ace of Spades’-180 pts
Veteran Sgt Tucker: Combi Bolter Plasma, Terminator Honors, Purity Seals
Space Marine with Plasma Gun
Space Marine with Plasma Cannon
Space Marine with Bolters X7

Tactical Sqd ‘Flasher’-205 pts
Veteran Sgt Carboose: Bolt Pistol, Power Fist, Terminator Honors, Purity Seals
Space Marine with Rocket Launcher
Space Marine with Melta Gun
Space Marine with Bolter X7

FAST ATTACK

Assault Squad ‘Angel’-150 pts
Veteran Sgt Butch Flowers: Plasma Pistol, Power Sword, Terminator Honors
Space Marine with Plasma Pistol X 2
Space Marine with Bolt Pistol and chainsword X2


TODAL: 1487 pts

i was thinkin about putting in maybe a sqd of inq stormtroopers with a chimera in place of 2 sqds of tac marines. but is that a good or bad idea?

[Kreignerv]

i havent used SM (other than deathwatch) for about a year now and i got some (thx Alex!) and my friend just got some eldar so we are going to have a battle this saturday. he likes to get in close and blast away. but the good thing is that my bolters have a longer range than his weapons . from what i know, he has 5 warp spinders, a bunch of guardens, 1 farseer, 10 rangers upgraded as pathfinders, and some support platforms. i was going to have all my marines in drop pods but i cant get all the drop pods done in one week with finals this week! my plan is to stay in cover or near cover and blast away. i dont like small battles but this will be ok. also it will be odd cuz i will not have any tanks or vechiles at all. o well. lets see the list!


HQ


Master Commander Hans-130 pts
Terminator Armour
Storm Bolter
Power Sword
Purity Seals
Storm Shield


Epistolary Liberarian Mordekai-261 pts
Plasma Pistol
Frag Grenades
Terminator Honors
Fear of the Darkness
Might of Heroes
Artificer Armour
Iron Halo
Adamantine Mantle
Familiar

ELITES

Terminator Sqd ‘Emperor’s Fist’-220 pts
Terminators X5
2 Assault Cannons

Techmarine Borroleth-185 pts
Servo Harness
Terminator Honors
Gun Servitor with Plasma Cannon
Gun Servitor with Heavy Bolter


TROOPS

Scout Sqd ‘Wolfenstein’-156 pts
Veteran Sgt Frey: Bolt Pistol, Power  Weapon, Terminator Honors
Scout with Shotgun
Scout with Bolter X5
Scout with Sniper Rifle
Scout with Heavy Bolter

Tactical Sqd ‘Ace of Spades’-180 pts
Veteran Sgt Tucker: Combi Bolter Plasma, Terminator Honors, Purity Seals
Space Marine with Plasma Gun
Space Marine with Plasma Cannon
Space Marine with Bolters X7

Tactical Sqd ‘Flasher’-205 pts
Veteran Sgt Carboose: Bolt Pistol, Power Fist, Terminator Honors, Purity Seals
Space Marine with Rocket Launcher
Space Marine with Melta Gun
Space Marine with Bolter X7

FAST ATTACK

Assault Squad ‘Angel’-150 pts
Veteran Sgt Butch Flowers: Plasma Pistol, Power Sword, Terminator Honors
Space Marine with Plasma Pistol X 2
Space Marine with Bolt Pistol and chainsword X2


TODAL: 1487 pts

i was thinkin about putting in maybe a sqd of inq stormtroopers with a chimera in place of 2 sqds of tac marines. but is that a good or bad idea?

 drop the purity seals and storm shield from your commander, seals are useless and 10 points for ++1 better save is too.  termie armor has ++5 built in.

The Librarian is way to kitted,  you blew the 100 points of wargear limit out of the water and you can only have one total artifact per army (that means iron halor OR mantle not both) and artificer armor is useless, give him a cheap invo (combat/storm shield)

Drop either the librian or commander and add a chaplan if you can to the assault squad.

 Drop your tacs to 6 or 8 depending on points and make that assault squad 10 strong, it needs to soak up casualities, and nothing in the eldar list is horrible in CC.   And get rid of all the seals, and get PF in all your tacs if you can.

[Catachan Devil Sniper]

quick question: does the PP count agasint the wargear limit and i thought i could have only one of each relic?

kinda of a problem, thats all the assault marines i have right now. i thought with the PS, i would have a better chance and control of what my marines doing and stayin alive.

[Kreignerv]

 Look right under the relic bold print
 (one per army from this list)

 PP?  is that plasma pistol?
Well with a commander you will always be passing almost which sometimes is a bad thing, a commander and Purity seals is kinda contradictive.  If thats all you got that all you got, but if you plan on expanding Id definately go for a 10 man assault squad.

[Wuestenfux]

Well, two HQ's is a bit much in 1500 pt games.
Keep the Librarian but keep him cheap, with termie amour, storm shield, fota, vot,
and let him lead the Termie squad, i.e., make it a Termie Command squad.
By the way, your math is off, the Termie squad costs 240 pts.

A Techmarine with shooty support is a nice add-on.

Take 6 men shooty squads.
Sniper Scouts are fine. Let them infiltrate so that they will compete with Rangers for the best spots.
Moreover, 6 men las/plas squads are standard if it comes to shooty support.

Finally, the Assault squad should be led by a Vet Serg w/ power fist. Drop the plasma pistol as it can kill your precious leader.

Tornados would be nice to slow down his advance and to target support weapon batteries.