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Title: Let's talk about the Emperor...?
Post by: Kage2020 on October 10, 2021, 02:16:51 AM
After being away for so long, and spending some time looking through mini painting channels, I'm interested in understanding where the Emperor of Mankind is now.

Back in my day he was basically a living corpse on the Golden Throne that was fed thousands of psykers. He had this "overwatch" thing going on, so he could communicate with people but this was sketchy.

There were some fan theories (I had one), but I would be interested in hearing where the background is at the moment. Heck, especially given the materials on Ynnead.

Help me 40k background gods. You're my only help. :D
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Emperor...?
Post by: Lord of Winter and War on October 10, 2021, 06:45:12 AM
He's in exactly the same place. Nothing has changed.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Emperor...?
Post by: Sir_Godspeed on October 10, 2021, 01:22:22 PM
Yeah, nothing's changed there, lol.

I mean, we did learn through the HH books that his "Great Work" was to build a new Webway for humanity, but Magnus broke it when he used sorcery to communicate with the Emperor, and daemons invaded the Imperial Palace, so now the Golden Throne, in addition to powering the Astronomican, also apparently functions like a plug on the unfinished Webway.

Also we have definite confirmation that the Imperial Palace lies in the Himalayas, and not in the UK like the old lore.

No idea if any of this is new to you, just throwing it out there due to the lack of any development in the 41st millennium.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Emperor...?
Post by: Kage2020 on October 14, 2021, 10:08:41 PM
Well, that was an easy answer. So, no more conspiracy theories?

Also we have definite confirmation that the Imperial Palace lies in the Himalayas, and not in the UK like the old lore.
Oh, this is new? That used to be the home of the... errr... Adeptus Astronomicon, right? I guess it would make sense for them--kinda, sorta--in the same location. (Though one has to wonder about the impact of the Sacrifice, but hey-ho. Their universe.)

No idea if any of this is new to you, just throwing it out there due to the lack of any development in the 41st millennium.
There are some new tidbits. Even reading that Gav Thorpe novel has provided some interesting tidbits where they seem like they're trying to fix some loopholes in the background.

It's all good for me. I must admit that with the whole Ynnead thing that they might have done something interesting with the Emperor, too. The Guilliman thing and Indomitas... Heh. I just need to take of my tinfoil hat! ;)
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Emperor...?
Post by: Sir_Godspeed on October 15, 2021, 09:39:05 PM
Yeah, it used to be that the Astronomican was located in the Himalayas, but the earliest mentions of the Imperial Throne implied it lay where GW headquarters is (Nottingham? I forget). I think later the Astronomican and Imperial Throne were sorta conflated, just going off memory. But at least the the HH novels explicitly described the palace complex and it's in the Himalayas.

While I'm not a huge fan of the HH novels, there are some neat tidbits about pre-Unification Terra, with various dystopian, post-apocalyptic empires that the Emperor eventually conquered. Not much, but the kind of stuff I like to spin off from.

As for the newest lore, I'm overall pretty okay with it. Expanding the Eye of Terror was a ballsy move, and one that I think has been pretty fruitful. The rest is... fine, I think? I'm not crazy about them trying to justify the Primaris marines lore-wise, but hey, I can't really force myself to get too worked up about it either.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Emperor...?
Post by: Wyddr on October 16, 2021, 09:37:37 AM
Yeah, the Primaris is pretty much the only thing I don't like, since it just seems so gratuitous and unnecessary. The rest of it is fine. 
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Emperor...?
Post by: Kage2020 on October 17, 2021, 11:41:24 PM
But at least the the HH novels explicitly described the palace complex and it's in the Himalayas.
If they take the Inquisition out of the Arctic (or was it Antarctic?) then they're dead to me. j/k ;)

While I'm not a huge fan of the HH novels...
Remember in the other thread where I said that Gav Thorpe's novels were, despite my memory of them being better, were terrible? Well, I'm not saying that the novels are great, but the little tidbits they give are addictive. I'm going to stop at two, honest.

As for the newest lore, I'm overall pretty okay with it.
From what I'm seeing of it? It makes good wargame fodder.

Yeah, the Primaris is pretty much the only thing I don't like, since it just seems so gratuitous and unnecessary. The rest of it is fine. 
Yeah, I can definitely see that. It crosses the boundaries of the thematic limitations of the different armies without offering significant boosts in other areas (as far as I can tell).