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1000pts. Armored tourney list.
« on: May 11, 2009, 03:26:02 PM »
Space marine Armored Recon Force


HQ:


Captain  “Ikaros”
100pts.

Troops:

Tactical squad "Sword"
5x additional meatshield
Power weapon
Melta gun
Plasma Cannon
195pts.

Tactical squad "Shield"
5x additional meatshield
Power weapon
Melta gun
Plasma Cannon
195pts.

Heavy support:

Land raider redeemer
240pts.

Land raider “Firefly”
250pts.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2009, 10:44:11 AM by R.I.P.L.E.Y. »
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Re: Unfair 1000pts. Armored tourney list.
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2009, 03:30:31 PM »
Not really unfair. Someone pops both the Scout units at range then they can just spend the rest of the game hunkered down so the Land Raiders can't do much to them, or they'll send a tough guy out and crack them all open. Bodies bodies bodies, that's what wins smaller games.

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Re: Unfair 1000pts. Armored tourney list.
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2009, 04:54:49 PM »
You should go for two redeemers imo, both with multi melta, good anti tank and amazing anti infantry, keep them close together and see how much pain they can dish out.  As for the third, I guess stand LR is good, but I'd personally go for 3 redeemers, or two and one crusader,

Either way 3 av14 vehicles in 1k points is pretty solid..
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Re: Unfair 1000pts. Armored tourney list.
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2009, 05:14:21 PM »
And then someone turns up with a Terminator Squad/Flyrant/Vanquisher/Fire Dragons and it's Landraiders running in all directions.

It's gimmicky. It says 'I'll do really well'. It will most likely phail.

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Re: Unfair 1000pts. Armored tourney list.
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2009, 05:27:10 PM »
I agree, its a paper tiger. Three lucky shots and its all over...

If you find something that one-ups the trick you have you're in a lot of trouble as you don't have any back up plan. I'd think about how you'd deal with a big horde of orks led by powerclaw waving nobs who'll chew up anything that comes close... or a Vulkan led marine army with meltaweapons comming out their ears...
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Re: Unfair 1000pts. Armored tourney list.
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2009, 11:17:15 AM »
Actually, tournament rules says that you cannot take named character, which sucks...

I am now thinking about if I change captain to MotF. Thoughts?
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Re: Unfair 1000pts. Armored tourney list.
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2009, 04:14:32 PM »
For my guard I managed to fit 6 lascannons into 1000 points. Well I didnt put too much else but if someone wanted to power game the could probably get 9 in with another 6 meltaguns in chimeras. With the new orders those lascannons will be a lot more effective at hitting and though its till hard for lascannons to kill land raiders they dont have to try too hard when there are 9 of them and 3 of you.
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Re: Unfair 1000pts. Armored tourney list.
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2009, 09:57:51 PM »
Ya, I certainly wouldn't call that "unfair."  A DE player who has gone dark lance spam even a bit will not be too worried about seeing 3 land raiders.  In fact, its likely that a DE player with any common sense would simply chuckle then proceed to wipe your fancy tanks off the table. 

Any players who don't see it coming are in for a surprise though.... :D
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Re: Unfair 1000pts. Armored tourney list.
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2009, 01:36:28 AM »
The main thing with this list is that it will surprise those players that are not ready for it. Not everyone is going into the tournament with 8 dark lances, 9 lascannons, 6 Meltaguns, 6 Fusion Blasters, or 6 Rail Guns which is probably where you will win since they will simply not be able to kill all your tanks in time.

Just a question though what kind of missions will you be playing?
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Re: Unfair 1000pts. Armored tourney list.
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2009, 02:31:17 AM »
Tournament will be old fashioned victory points games.
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Re: Unfair 1000pts. Armored tourney list.
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2009, 03:03:16 AM »
while i have seen something similar to this work before, i would say it all depends on the type of players you play with or that are participating in the tourny.  If the players in the tourny are heavy SM users, you might see some more missile launchers and lascannons than against tournies that have players use heavy horde armies.  Before i moved to my new state here in the US, i would play against a lot of opponents who used SM armies, thus i saw many more lascannons in peoples lists than normal, (this is in addition to plasma and whatever else for anyone who wants to question this).  But now i play against lots of tryanid and ork armies and i see many more heavy bolters and just high volume shot weapons over high strenght and low ap weapons.   Just look at the participants and see what you'll be up against and that could help give you an idea.

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Re: Unfair 1000pts. Armored tourney list.
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2009, 03:42:04 AM »
Monstrous creatures and anything with extra armour penetration will seriously ruin your day. And with tyranids they can easily fit a few monstrous creatures in 1000 points especially when they don't have to worry about holding objectives.
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Re: Unfair 1000pts. Armored tourney list.
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2009, 04:32:40 AM »
Yes a Broodlord, possibly a couple cheap dakka creatures, and a whole mess of genestealers could ruin your plans.
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Re: Unfair 1000pts. Armored tourney list.
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2009, 04:37:42 AM »
Eldar with a wraithlord or two.
Sisters with meltas and mech.
Guard with vanquisher or two or basilisk battery or lascannon heavy..
Blood angels with jump pack melta bomb troops.
Dark eldar with dark lances and raiders.
Nids with fexs tooled for CC.
Demons with greater demon and 3 prince spam (very popular at tournies)
Dark angel double wing spam.
The list goes on bud, needless to say these armies will ruin your day and are quite tournie popular.
Go for your list it will probably be unique, but dont expect it to crush all comers. The 3 raider spam has been around for years so most gamers are well aware of it.
There is an old saying "dont put all your eggs in one basket" your list does, so it may win by lots but may lose by lots too.
A squad of marines needs 10 kills to get rid of , a vehicle just 1.
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Re: Unfair 1000pts. Armored tourney list.
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2009, 04:46:40 AM »
You're going to end up waiting to get shot the whole game; I play Deathwing, so I am intimately familiar with low model-count armies (you lose one squad and the whole game changes).

Still, why not? Hide the troops in the LRs and shoot what you can, good luck!
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Re: Unfair 1000pts. Armored tourney list.
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2009, 05:09:22 AM »
I am not worried obout nids. I can drive faster than they move. Additoinal. 4 Las cannons will take couple fexs down anytime.
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Re: Unfair 1000pts. Armored tourney list.
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2009, 05:53:25 AM »
do u really drive faster than they move... well that puts pay to you shooting your guns then.

this list is just "meh".
its been tried before and fails every time.

Any tau player worth his salt would laugh if you put this on the field. Last year i faced practically this same list (3 crusaders) in a 1k tourney. It lasted 3 turns. My list contained 2 broadsides with 2 shield drones each and 3 fusion guns on deep striking suits, as well as bodies to seize stuff.
1st turn one died to railgun fire. The other two had to charge 12 to even consider getting into range.
2nd vwap, bang went a second, and the scouts went as well.
3rd turn my commander and crisis team drop in, and fusion blaster the 3rd.
game over.

I have even seen this pulled at GT level with 5 LR's (using DH) and it fared just the same.

If you want to be "look at me i'm land raider boy" go with two and spend the other 1000/4 points on a couple decent squad of marines to ride.

at least then your army might stand a chance.
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Re: Unfair 1000pts. Armored tourney list.
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2009, 06:08:55 AM »
Has someone you know accused you of being unfair using this list?
If so i take it you will be using these replies as evidence in your favour?
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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2009, 06:30:59 AM »

Any tau player worth his salt would laugh if you put this on the field. Last year i faced practically this same list (3 crusaders) in a 1k tourney. It lasted 3 turns. My list contained 2 broadsides with 2 shield drones each and 3 fusion guns on deep striking suits, as well as bodies to seize stuff.
1st turn one died to railgun fire. The other two had to charge 12 to even consider getting into range.
2nd vwap, bang went a second, and the scouts went as well.
3rd turn my commander and crisis team drop in, and fusion blaster the 3rd.
game over.

I have even seen this pulled at GT level with 5 LR's (using DH) and it fared just the same.

Well, I quess that he wasn't so good player, as he didn't use his smoke launchers or cover. Actually I have always thought that LRCs are worst LRs ever.
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Re: Unfair 1000pts. Armored tourney list.
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2009, 06:46:01 AM »
Basically some people are gonna say your list is cheesy coz they may not be big on anti tank. A seasoned vet is gonna wipe the floor with you (even if they play kroot mercs).
Your list is a novelty and very one dimensionall. Not the kind of list i would take coz i like variety.
Good luck tho ok  :)
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