Author Topic: Star Trek (Read 1903 times)

acdb · « **on:** January 9, 2003, 12:34:58 AM »

Could someone give me some help in how to create a Star Trek-like BFG fleet?

Decapitus · « **Reply #1 on:** January 9, 2003, 01:10:30 AM »

I'm not really sure how you would do that. Honestly one of the reasons I like BFG is that it doesn't borrow incredibly much from any other space ship Sci-Fi.

Kage2020 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 9, 2003, 08:26:57 AM »

I'm not sure why you would want to... each genre would sully that of the other!

Seriously, isn't the old Galaxy-class one of the largest starships in Star Fleet and is somewhat less than 700 metres? Tad bit on the small side compared to Imperial ships...

Lomendil · « **Reply #3 on:** January 10, 2003, 07:09:02 PM »

I'm not sure where Kage2020 is coming from there...

Personally , I like the Federation ships , they look cool with those big saucers and glowing blue warp nacelles . Unfortunatley , I have no idea how you could convert one , other than see if you can find a range of BFG scale Star Trek models . I know that you can get kits of several Starfleet ships , but I don't know the sizes . You could try trawling the internet for some , or ask at a Star Trek fan-site .

Malekith · « **Reply #4 on:** January 12, 2003, 05:22:19 AM »

You could make a commonwealth fleet from "Andromeda" with Eldar ships but Star Trek would be hard. You could try conversions but the ships would be massively out of scale. look at the Defiant class compared to other ships and you have got how the Soverign class would look against a Battle Barge. You could make A Borg/Necron fleet which would be cool though and not that hard to convert with some plasticard and green stuff.

TTFN

Malekith

Zithuriel · « **Reply #5 on:** January 12, 2003, 12:49:03 PM »

Aren't BFG torpedoes supposed to be larger than most Star Trek ships?

acdb · « **Reply #6 on:** January 19, 2003, 06:27:29 PM »

Scale doesn't really matter if each ship was roughly in scale with itself it wouldn't really matter if they weren't in scale with BFG-proper!

Devern, The Unsung Hero · « **Reply #7 on:** January 19, 2003, 06:33:16 PM »

An Andromeda fleet woudl kick!!! Hell I think I'l going to get some green stuff and start building slip fighters form scratch...make some cool rules for them. hehehe. Nova bombs..*drools*

Kage2020 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 19, 2003, 08:04:44 PM »

Quote from: Lomendil on January 10, 2003, 07:09:02 PM

I'm not sure where Kage2020 is coming from there...

Not modelling!

I was talking in 'fluff' terms... And, out of interest, I like the imagery of the ST ships as well!

Camo · « **Reply #9 on:** January 20, 2003, 03:23:26 PM »

It's funny you should mention star trek and BFG together, has anyone seen the scythe class narvester vessels for necrons? Well take off the tail and the fin, turn it upside down and what have you got? The star ship enterprise, try it!

acdb · « **Reply #10 on:** January 20, 2003, 11:26:08 PM »

I must say that although they would be smaller in full-scale that they are much better armed (one quantam torpedo can destroy an entire starbase which is approx the 1000m x 1200m x 450m). Their shielding is better as well!

Wargamer · « **Reply #11 on:** January 21, 2003, 11:55:17 AM »

Actually, the shielding is worse! They don't seem to be able to recharge their shields in battle, whereas the Imperial Shields recharge themselves as soon as the shooting stops, however briefly (in BFG, you lose one shield for every Blast Marker next to the ship, so if you move clear of the Blast Markers, all your shields come back!

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Sgt. Dellius · « **Reply #12 on:** January 21, 2003, 02:53:41 PM »

im not sure where I'M coming from here, but, wont most star trek ships ahve limited options for weapons?

acdb · « **Reply #13 on:** January 25, 2003, 12:48:47 AM »

Star Trek shields are constantly repaired as battle rages around them! Does the Imperium or even the eldar have cloaking technology? Not that I know of! A sensor block would cause any and all Imperial ships in proximity to the activating ship to loose any navigational abilites! A phaser blast would not only cause damage but also disrupt the machine spirits of what it was aimed at!

TheMightyPikachu · « **Reply #14 on:** January 25, 2003, 03:36:05 PM »

Quote from: acdb on January 25, 2003, 12:48:47 AM

Star Trek shields are constantly repaired as battle rages around them! Does the Imperium or even the eldar have cloaking technology? Not that I know of! A sensor block would cause any and all Imperial ships in proximity to the activating ship to loose any navigational abilites! A phaser blast would not only cause damage but also disrupt the machine spirits of what it was aimed at!

Who says that they don't constantly repair shields in BFG? Maybe that's the reason Imperial ships can make so many shield saves (is that the proper term)
or the weapons are simply so powerful that the shield generators go kaput after absorbing the hits

and of course Eldar cloak! the only time eldar ships are engaged in battle is when they get past their cloaking (even then, their holofields represent that they're extremely difficult to get a lock on)

Dark eldar ships even use their cloaking to emulate other ships, to get in close before attack.

You could also assume that the reason for a lack of cloaking rules in 40k is all the ships have super duper sensors to detect them, only small trading vessels would lack them.

i'm just talkin' from me bum tho, it's all speculation

Wargamer · « **Reply #15 on:** January 25, 2003, 04:03:30 PM »

Imperial, Chaos and Orks all have shields in BFG.

Morrinath · « **Reply #16 on:** January 25, 2003, 05:45:07 PM »

BFG ships don't have sensors in the star trek sense of the word. Whereas star trek gives returns on almost all details of whatever's in the area of effect BFG sensors just detect energy signatures. For this reason it's possible to 'hide' in a gas cloud or even just park in front of a star so it masks your own energy signature. This makes targeting and navigation much more complicated and inaccurate but also more robust. I'm guessing even cloaking devices give off energy which could be picked up as just a shapeless signature. BFG shields automatically regenerate when not being hit so they are better than star trek shields. Also, BFG torpedoes are way more powerful than star trek ones. The only things in BFG that are out of scale are the ships themselves and as such the explosions (blast markers) from BFG torpedoes are several hundred miles across at least.

Monoglycer · « **Reply #17 on:** January 25, 2003, 06:01:03 PM »

I think the game starfleet command was based around a table top game called starship battles(star trek universe). Also if you actually don't care about the scale you'll find that fed ships have very low weapons compaired to say a cruiser at best a galaxy class(considered a battleship) has 8 weapons(lance or batteries) on only their broadsides while a battleship has 12?(don't have rule book)+dorsal weapons.

Wargamer · « **Reply #18 on:** January 26, 2003, 10:19:48 AM »

Let's look at some specs.
Size:
Galaxy Class Starships are 641 meters long.
Emperor Class Battleships are at least 3km long.
Armament:
Galaxy Class Starships have at least 10 Phaser arrays, and over 200 Photon Torpedoes (6ft long, max range 750,000-3,500,000km depending on type).
Emperor Class Battleships have hundreds of Plasma Cannons, Turbo Lasers, Defence Lasers, Macro Cannons and simmilar weaponry, Lance Batteries, auxilliary defence Turrets and an unknown quantity of Torpedoes (size and range unknown).
Auxilliary Craft:
Galaxy Class Starships have 10 standard personnel shuttles, ten cargo shuttles and 5 special-purpose craft, as well as 12 2-man short range craft.
Emperor Class Battleships have an unknown number of fighters, assault craft, bombers, planetary assault craft, dropships, drop-pods as well as an unknown quantity of additional craft.

Hope that helps you determine how Star Trek ships shape up in BFG.

Lomendil · « **Reply #19 on:** January 26, 2003, 10:27:12 PM »

Nonetheless , it would still be possible to make a Star Trek themed Imperial fleet . Just use different models , what's the problem ?

In any case , Star Fleet has much higher tech than the Imperial Navy , and would outclass them.

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