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Blackadder's WIP Warlord Titan
« on: June 2, 2012, 07:59:39 PM »
Okay so here's the deal, I photo-shopped the image and made a static front view that prints out a model exactly 24 inches tall (On my printer using my editor's print graph I hasten to add). I'm satisfied that this is viable height for a Warlord towering almost 2.5 times the height of a Warhound.

 Now that I have the overall height I'll remove the armour and draw in the structural detail.

 BTW that's 24 inches to the lower margin of the image because we mustn't forget the foot pads.


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Re: Blackadder's WIP Warlord Titan
« Reply #1 on: June 2, 2012, 08:01:04 PM »
Here comes the weekend and I'll be playing to an empty room. I did manage to cut out most of the basic components of both feet and hope to have them glued together this weekend. I used 2.0 mm for the tread base and the rest is 1.0 mm styrene. This beastie is going to consume a lot of plastic but the fabrication will be a lot easier as all the material will be the same so no problem with glue compatibility which is a big plus.

I'll just add this on:

The octagons are the center of the foot pads and are 2.0 mm thick and about 5.0 x 4.5 inches the larger boxes to the right are the front and back toes and the smaller boxes at the extreme left are the side toes. Both sets of these toes will be movable with hinges. The truncated toe pieces to the far right may or mayn't be movable as I haven't planned that far as yet but the disc will tilt side to side and the top surface will house a semicircular gear shape which will allow the entire foot to tilt forward and aft. This should afford a full range of motion to the feet. The semicircle will have a countersunk screw for the axis and a pal nut on the other side to provide the tension to maintain the various poses.


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Possible? most probably,

Crazy? almost certainly.

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Re: Blackadder's WIP Warlord Titan
« Reply #2 on: June 2, 2012, 08:01:54 PM »
I was getting a bit careless with the work on the 'Hawk and needed a change of venue.

Forgot to post these scans of the feet:





My mechanical drawing is a mite sloppy.

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Re: Blackadder's WIP Warlord Titan
« Reply #3 on: June 2, 2012, 08:02:37 PM »
I finished all the basic toes and suspended my printout above the feet and Damn me it looks right. The Greaves still have the side frames armour to be added and once the body is bulked up I think you would want a good solid base to stand on.


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Re: Blackadder's WIP Warlord Titan
« Reply #4 on: June 2, 2012, 08:03:54 PM »
I know I'm gonna reap a lot of flack for ignoring the T'hawk but I'm on a roll with this project and will ride it for all it's worth.

This new enthusiasm is refreshing as working on the T'hawk was becoming tedious but already I'm looking at it with fresh ideas

The toes of Chrysagon coming along nicely an if I have to make the body a few inches taller so be it.


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Re: Blackadder's WIP Warlord Titan
« Reply #5 on: June 2, 2012, 08:04:55 PM »
I thought building models was a holiday and I am nowheres near done on the T'hawk, just taking a break after building the engines which were time consuming and labor intensive.

I needed a simple diversion such as the basic Warlord components.

I haven't a clue how much this thing will weigh or even how tall it will be. The feet when they are finished will determine the actual height of the model. I'm already 1/2 inch bigger than my original drawing which increases the height to about 26 inche from 24 inches. I intend to use steel hardware for the joints and reinforced box beam legs. The joints will lock in position with  torx screws to disguise the screw head so it won't be flexible like Lucie

Todays effort:


http://i.imgur.com/fElqW.jpg


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Re: Blackadder's WIP Warlord Titan
« Reply #6 on: June 3, 2012, 08:55:12 AM »
Nice work so far. Good to see you've not gone crazy over sized like a lot of people do when building Warlords.  :)

Really interested to see how this turns out as I've been looking at building a Warlord myself but it hasn't progressed beyond some doodles on scraps of paper and some basic scale tests so far...

Also very interested to see how your choise of materials work out as I was looking at going with a pvc pipe endoskeleton over laid with foamboard and plasticard for the details.

Anyway good luck with the build.  :D

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Re: Blackadder's WIP Warlord Titan
« Reply #7 on: June 3, 2012, 09:06:30 AM »
Very good start.  I really like the detail you are putting into the model.   Size wise, it looks pretty good.   I don't think a few inches will really effect it that much given the overall size of a titan that size. 

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« Reply #8 on: June 3, 2012, 09:16:45 AM »
I am going to make this primarily of plasticard. I can to a lot of grief constructing Lucie (My Warhound) and the Thunderhawk out of foam filled posterboard mainly because of the incompatibility with styrene plastic as far as adhesion. While a model completely fabricated of styrene will cost more the trade off is the time saved in not having to fight to get different materials to hold together. Further I plan to do a complete interior involving at least 4-5 levels each interlocking with the decks above and below; foam board just would not stand up to assembly and disassembly to display the interior detail.

It strikes me that this model is insufficiently complex.

Just kidding but over the weekend I received a query on another forum as to whether I was going to include an interior to the cockpit. I had alway intended to make the cockpit interior but it got me to thinking about my regrets when building the Lucie Warhound; namely no interior whatsoever. So...........

I threw together a front view of the compartments this weekend just so I could get a feel for how the various areas might be arranged.

Surprisingly it all fits and each compartment has about an 11 ft ceiling.

My dementia is serving me well.

Naturally the cockpit will be forward of the bridge and is not represented in this diagram.

http://i.imgur.com/eJxy0.jpg


I'm toying with the idea of stacking the decks like a child's stacking toy about the center pivot post:



This should afford ease in viewing the internal detail.

There are so many interlocking armour plates that alignment should be relatively easy to maintain plus there is the added bonus of modular construction which should facilitate modification and repair not to mention adding lighting at a later date as opposed to wiring it as I build.

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Re: Blackadder's WIP Warlord Titan
« Reply #9 on: June 3, 2012, 09:31:40 AM »
Plodding along as is my wont I successfully attached the step pyramid style ends of the toes this morning which for the life of me serve no earthly purpose other than aesthetic appeal. (If you like toes.... Jabba )

Mine differ from DS's in that they are slightly wider but the overall design is the same.

Accompanying the feet are some figures to convey scale donated by my son.

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Re: Blackadder's WIP Warlord Titan
« Reply #10 on: June 3, 2012, 09:32:55 AM »
I've been working on the disc tilting cylinders. These will allow the disc to tilt side to side while secured to a longitudinal pivot axle yet to be fabricated.

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Re: Blackadder's WIP Warlord Titan
« Reply #11 on: June 3, 2012, 09:34:13 AM »
I appreciate the responses and the subscriptions but just so you know 'The Blackadder' is very prone to mistakes. I spent half a day building the pistons receiving the cylinders on the discs and after forming them and starting to install them, I found that they were totally unnecessary!

 Since they are totally hidden inside the ankle discs whats the point of even installing them? added work, more parts to fail, who needs that; so eliminated. But all is not lost, they may be useful in another area and if nothing else they keep me humble.

http://i.imgur.com/awVs5.jpg

They are shown in the left foreground.


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So who would know they are even missing :*)

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Re: Blackadder's WIP Warlord Titan
« Reply #12 on: June 3, 2012, 09:36:40 AM »
This mornings run adding a bit of detail and checking the relative sizes.

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Re: Blackadder's WIP Warlord Titan
« Reply #13 on: June 3, 2012, 09:43:11 AM »
Before I close up the workings of the feet perhaps a demo of the hinges I came up with to allow the side toes to flex.

At this point they can flex up and down but once the box like hydraulic compartments at the base of the toes are installed upward movement will be restricted.

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Re: Blackadder's WIP Warlord Titan
« Reply #14 on: June 3, 2012, 03:22:34 PM »
Without wanting to sound like an internet stalker... I love you. I just love tha;t to have a bit of a break from scratch building the most detailing thunderhawk, you work on a fully detailed Warlord Titan!

Priceless!

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Re: Blackadder's WIP Warlord Titan
« Reply #15 on: June 4, 2012, 03:13:59 AM »
Without wanting to sound like an internet stalker... I love you. I just love tha;t to have a bit of a break from scratch building the most detailing thunderhawk, you work on a fully detailed Warlord Titan!

Priceless!

Yeah, sorry Oink you failed on that part, but i shall now join the group of internet stalkers, stalking you.  :P :-[

This is freaking amazing and you haven't even got more than a few inches off the ground yet. :D
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« Reply #16 on: June 4, 2012, 04:54:03 PM »
Well the weekend is over and in a flurry of productiveness I managed to attach one front toe With hinge as planned and it works and seems relatively strong

Now the diagonal stabilizers need a bit of work but nothing extraordinary and they do allow the foot to flex so there's no cause for concern. I can't mount the back toes yet as I have to find 3/8 dia light springs to stabilize the disc; much better than my piston cylinder design, a suggestion from Zathros, a Moderator on another forum and to whom I say thanks.

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Re: Blackadder's WIP Warlord Titan
« Reply #17 on: June 4, 2012, 04:55:19 PM »

 
I found some 1/2 inch springs 1 inch tall and set about modifying the disc stabilizing system to accept them. I have to admit it works rather well.

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« Reply #18 on: June 4, 2012, 04:58:00 PM »
Not too much to show for this mornings work; the reinforcements for the diagonal stabilizers are installed and the second front toe mount hinge is drying. The stabilizers do not appear to interfere with the toe movement and they appear a close fit to the mounted disc, about a millimeter clearance. I should be starting on the shank of the leg this weekend if the holiday doesn't interfere too much.

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Re: Blackadder's WIP Warlord Titan
« Reply #19 on: June 4, 2012, 04:59:50 PM »
With the paranoia of machine shop precision I managed to drill and tap two perfect (with apologies to Werner Heisenberg) holes with a 10-32 tap for my axle shafts. Tack glue them in place and set aside to dry and for photos.

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