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Title: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on August 3, 2009, 01:24:40 AM

Here is the design for a Custom Soulgrinder that I am sculpting to join a Slaanesh "Counts as" Daemon Army.  The goal is a 5,000 point army using custom sculptures and conversion to create a Slaanesh theme replacement model for virtually every unit in Codex Chaos Daemons.  The projects pretty far along, so i didn't want to replicate the entire thing here so provide a link for those who might be interested: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/235930.page (http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/235930.page)

Design sketches for Soulgrinder #1:

So...I've been thinking about the Soul Grinder counts as model, and have decided to go with Gameandwatch's and The_Chaplain's excellent ideas, and came up with um....this wonderfully daemonic homage to motherhood.  :lol:

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This is the basic idea the engine was formed from the body of an eldar Farseer.  Here's the idea engine is a womb where slaaneshi daemons form.  An idea stolen from the Ultramarine Omnibus, where the Iron Warriors used grotesquely deformed women to birth new fully grown space marines! Ewe!   :o

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And no the tooth maw is not what your thinking... it didn't even occur to me until my wife pointed it out.   Still I think it fits for Slaanesh. Disturbing, no? 


While looking through online pictures of pregnant women for research I came across, this:

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Apparently, its done with a temporary dye called Henna.  The important thing is that is got me thinking a painting and intricate Eldar/Slaaneshi design on the belly.

So, anyway that's one of my Soulgrinder ideas.  Things to do:

1.  The drawing was done to scale so all I have to do is photo-copy it to use as a guide for my armature.
2.  The design is not chaotic enough so I'll need to work on some detailing sketches.
3.  Since the sculpture is rather large I'll be using gray super sculpey firm and casting the final model.

I need feedback of the design:

- I've drawn her with 8 arms, but as pointed out six would be better for Slaanesh.  Which pair of arms should I remove?  The ones on the ground supporting her weight have to remain.  While the ones cradling her belly are fundamental to the idea.

- It needs some method of movement legs like a defiler, or perhaps a winged dais, or something?

- I've considered have one set of ares either clutching Slaanesh iconography or having sculpted flames coming from the palms of the hands.

- While the mouth is currently open should she be either blind folded or gagged, S&M style?  To much?

- How should I represent the Soulgrinder's weapons?

Please be brutal in your critiques, I can take it.

Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Qui-Gon Jinn on August 3, 2009, 01:30:59 AM
Personally, the design is good, but the theory behind it doesn't sit well with me for a number of reasons.

1. Soul Grinders are the product of Daemons being fused with the machines of the Forge of Souls and swearing the Pact. And, while the machine gradually shifts to better personify the Daemon, the Daemon is still 50%+ machine at that point. I see 0% machine in your diagram.

2. This seems more for a Keeper, and not a Soul Grinder. And, while your dimensions may be accurate, you have the unfortunate problem of people accepting this in games. It doesn't look like a Soul Grinder in any vague sense, it doesn't LOOK like it is a vehicle, a WALKER no less(I see a Daemon that looks like a pregnant woman who just reached her "O")
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on August 3, 2009, 01:59:57 AM
Thanks for the reply.   ;D  At the moment the design does indeed appear very organic.  I will be correcting that that with a little inspiration from Giger and Brom.  What would you suggest to improve the design, and make it feel more like a vehicle? What sorts of machine elements would you like to see included?  What is she were mounted on a dais propelled by mechanical crab legs?  I'm open to pretty much anything at this point, as I am still fishing for ideas.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Wolf14016 on August 3, 2009, 02:03:42 AM
A very interesting idea. It definitely needs to be machined-up a little bit, or maybe reconsider using it as a daemon prince.

And the tooth-maw really does look like a you-know-what, at least at this point. While it's definitely fitting, and mature gamers would probably be fine with it, you might get some problems from kids and/or parents that play (Same problem with the breasts, too). No reason not to do it, just something to think about.

Looks good so far :-)
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Qui-Gon Jinn on August 3, 2009, 02:12:02 AM
I like the diagram you drew of a spider woman. That would work much better. But this giant monstrocity looks like FWs GUO gone female. I'd prefer to see spider lady than this used as a SG. As for the diagram being used as a SG, if made, its too organic through and through. Need to start with the base of the legs and work your way up.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: nesbitt_bub1 on August 3, 2009, 03:34:01 AM
Absolutely love the Idea.

A few pointers tho. Grab the soul grinder model or a defiler and throw away the existing daemon.

Then either mount yours at a 45% angle, on a small plinth at the front. Then use some Geiger esk cables to integrate her into the machine. Using the head and her back fins as conduit to get her to be part of the machine.


Or leaver her as she is looking upwards But make her eyes closed. Then use some pans labyrinth style hand eyes, You already have 2 forward pointing palms. They would be perfect. Then do the gieger esk conduits to integrate her into the system.

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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Jehan-Reznor on August 3, 2009, 03:49:39 AM
i just saw saw all your work amazing. some great designs, are you planning to paint some of them soon?
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on August 3, 2009, 11:29:06 AM
Revisions yeah!

Okay I got lots of great feedback on this from various boards. 

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I need to thanks the following people for the input on this model:

Gameandwatch: for the idea of using a pregnant machine/daemon...inspiring!
The_chaplain: for the references he provided for the pose, which I have stolen shamelessly.
HK-47: for suggesting keeping the up raised hands to represent the Harvester.
Deraj:  for the idea of shackling the supporting arms.
Khanaris: for the hard critique on the belly mouth looking far to pornographic.
Qui-Gon Jinn: for the hard critique on the soul grinder needing to be machine-like, and far less organic.
Nesbitt_bub1: for the idea of rotating the model 45 degrees, and Gigeresque tubing, and a few others not incorporated here yet.
Sidstyler: for being honest enoguh to say dude that just is wrong.
And everyone who's provided me feedback past, seriously thanks guys.



I'll comment on these more but I gotta get to work.  Later!

Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Jehan-Reznor on August 3, 2009, 09:49:03 PM
If you go HR Giger style let the gun come out of a Vagina like slit and tubes that look like alien penises, HR Giger put always lots of those drawings (like alien, the eggs and so on)
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Qui-Gon Jinn on August 3, 2009, 10:46:29 PM
Have you no form of decency Jehan? I mean, yes, its Slaanesh, but outright vag-cannons is a step too far in my opinion. Personally, he needs to take it back to sketches and start with the base of the model, and then work the top out.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Jehan-Reznor on August 4, 2009, 08:37:06 PM
Have you no form of decency Jehan? I mean, yes, its Slaanesh, but outright vag-cannons is a step too far in my opinion. Personally, he needs to take it back to sketches and start with the base of the model, and then work the top out.
What are you the minister of Decency? In my book slaneesh demons are like more sexual cenobites from Hellraiser, i want it too be disturbing, it is sexual Horror.
I noticed that you abhor anything that could turn you to the Darkside  ::)
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sanctjud on August 4, 2009, 08:40:28 PM
I praise it.
Do/finish it and you have my Slurgle blessings.
_______________

If someone has issues with it, just say it's a 'belly' gun instead............ ..

My 7 Cents.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Qui-Gon Jinn on August 4, 2009, 08:41:15 PM
Don't get me wrong, I understand Slaanesh desires too, but while Slaanesh is affectionately termed the "porn" god there are some things that are just too much that should be rendered in model form.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Jehan-Reznor on August 4, 2009, 08:53:34 PM
Nope, if he is not playing official tournaments, then the sky is the limit in my book, i never understood when it is extremely decaying when it is a Nurge or lots of Gore and violence when it is Khorne, i never hear complaints, only when there is nudity or it is sexual there are complaints
Don't get me wrong, I understand Slaanesh desires too, but while Slaanesh is affectionately termed the "porn" god there are some things that are just too much that should be rendered in model form.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Lucky_Jackal on August 4, 2009, 08:55:30 PM
I would drop the legs, and then fuse that torso into a soul grinder body.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Ghostofman on August 5, 2009, 03:06:08 PM
Eh, add some blue-tac pasties for the duration of the game and I'm sure you'd be ok in a public function. In my experiance the secret to getting away with nudity is to keep the sexyness under control. You want to keep it with enough artisticness in it so that the nudity is merely a part of the overall look and style and not about giving the viewer wood. So far, I think these designs are doing that fairly well.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on August 5, 2009, 04:50:39 PM
- I decided to have an actual barrel would prevent possible "what you see is what you get" disputes.  She'll still have the toothed mouth, but I'm going to make a removable techie piece to cover it, in mixed company. Ahhh....compromise!  ;D


So, anyway.  I still need to come up with a way to represent: plaguebearers and nurglings.
Now, Slaves to Darkness mentions the "Tormented" which are kinda these slaaneshi zombie-slave things.  That got me thinking about converting grave ghouls and putting them in gimp-suits: leather hoods and loin cloths mostly. The Sisters and Inquisition already have "church sanctioned Gimps...excuse me...arco-flagellants. And Slaanesh is not one to be outdone with regard to fetish.   ::)





Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Lucky_Jackal on August 5, 2009, 10:25:48 PM
- I decided to have an actual barrel would prevent possible "what you see is what you get" disputes.  She'll still have the toothed mouth, but I'm going to make a removable techie piece to cover it, in mixed company. Ahhh....compromise!  ;D


So, anyway.  I still need to come up with a way to represent: plaguebearers and nurglings.
Now, Slaves to Darkness mentions the "Tormented" which are kinda these slaaneshi zombie-slave things.  That got me thinking about converting grave ghouls and putting them in gimp-suits: leather hoods and loin cloths mostly. The Sisters and Inquisition already have "church sanctioned Gimps...excuse me...arco-flagellants. And Slaanesh is not one to be outdone with regard to fetish.   ::)

For Plague Bearers, why not something like a person who is adicated to hard drugs. Covered in Track marks, and sores.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Cpt. Pain on August 5, 2009, 11:35:42 PM
For nurglings, you could have swarms of tiny demonette like creatures. One of the old chaos familiar models was a small demonette (previous version). If you could get hold of one, copying it would be no problem.

And as for plague bearers, they don't actually need to be anything like what the original concept for the rules were. They only need to represent the rules as they are. As such, 'mobs' of rapturous devoties would work well.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on August 8, 2009, 07:36:37 AM
Okay, here are two more Soul grinder concept designs I came up with:

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I hate to warp your minds and run; but  I'm taking the wife to the Chicago Comic-con today. 


More Later!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sludge_City on August 8, 2009, 08:20:30 AM
I love the first of the new ones. Looks like the Dalk doll from Bleach :)

S_C
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Qui-Gon Jinn on August 8, 2009, 10:13:13 AM
Got to say, I give these new designs 666 thumbs WAY up.
These look like Soul Grinder possibilities, keeping the general form, but still making it special Slaaneshi good. I remember seeing these sketches a while back in the thread you linked to, and this is what I have been referring to.

I will possibly steal your ideas at some point or another. Those are just way boss. Where did you learn to sketch?
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Jehan-Reznor on August 9, 2009, 08:10:35 AM
I like the one below looks more slaneesh, the upper one makes me think of a warjack made from the warcaster deneagrah
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Lucky_Jackal on August 9, 2009, 11:42:47 PM
I like the one below looks more slaneesh, the upper one makes me think of a warjack made from the warcaster deneagrah

You more or less took the words right out of my mouth.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Guardsman Haddock on August 10, 2009, 12:25:29 AM
The second one certainly gets my vote  ;)
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on August 11, 2009, 07:00:01 PM
Hi guys,

Sorry I haven't posted back sooner...work...  :'(

Anyway, I'm glad y'all like the new designs.  Honestly, I don't really the legs on the 1st one.  I like the second one for obvious reasons. ;D  So, I'll likely go with the legs of the second and use the upper bodies for both.   

Maybe I'll use some Eldar vehicle bits to add a more cybernetic feel to the model.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Qui-Gon Jinn on August 11, 2009, 08:20:39 PM
How are you going to sculpt the bodies? What models are you going to use as a base?
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on August 13, 2009, 05:03:39 AM
How are you going to sculpt the bodies? What models are you going to use as a base?

I'm pretty much scratch building everything.  I started on the legs first since they'll all be the same.  Once I get a nice detailed on leg done I'll mold and cast it 6 six times for each model.  The main body I'll sculpt out of super sculpey over a ball aluminum foil to save clay.   
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on August 16, 2009, 07:37:54 AM
So...I'm still working on designs for my Soul grinders.  But in the mean time here are some updates to the monstrous creatures being created for the project.

Keeper of Secrets:

Just some minor tweaks to this model.  The nipples were to small so I made them more puffy?  :D   I also replace the nipple ring.  Anyway she just needs some studs down the back of the right leg and another nipple ring on the 2nd tier of breasts left side.  Other than that she's getting washed, sanded and primed today.

Before:

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After:

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Daemon Princesses:

These are also essentially done but for minor detailing.  These shot shoe the final head that I will be molding today, unless their are any objections.  Note this isn't the final head.  Once cast they will each get unique heads with different hair, tentacle, and horn arrangements.  I also decided to keep the features fairly subtle to allow for easier modification.  This head can be easily modified to a nose-less Diaz-style daemonette head or a more more human set of facial features.

Daemon Princess # 1

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To Do:

1.  add some additional rivets to the armor.
2.  add laces at the sides of the armor.
3.  add buckles to all the armor straps.
4.  finish smoothing and sharpening the armor plates.
5.  add a Slaanesh symbol and trim to the harness clasp (disc).

Daemon Princess # 2

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To Do:

1.  add some additional studs to the arm and leg.
2.  add some additional wrinkles to the loin cloth.
3.  add a Slaanesh symbol as a brand to the left thigh.

Daemon Princess # 3

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To Do:

1.  finish her sword and add a dagger to a sash at her waist.
2.  add choker and spirit stone belt.
3.  add a additional piercings.



More Later!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: burgers4me on August 16, 2009, 08:19:21 AM
Slaanesh would be pleased indead. But I will stop there, and prepare my hole to jump in....
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rudkin on August 17, 2009, 02:13:31 PM
Perhaps it's just me, but the bottom jaw (and consequently the mouth) of the Princess head seems a bit too far forward. Like I said, though, it may just be me. Still, I'd set it back a bit if at all possible. I feel that it would fit in better with the established Slaaneshi models (namely, of course, the Daemonettes).

Otherwise, nice work. I really like the idea for the KOS's staff; it's quite simple, but rather effective! I may have to look into stealing erm... borrowing that idea for a future project!

~~~~~~

As for your Soul Grinder models, I do like the spider look. I don't think they even need any cybernetics, either; they still have the 'Grinder shape so it's clear what they are supposed to be (obviously reminding your opponents beforehand would be a good idea, though, just to make sure).

I'm certainly looking forward to seeing them done!

Keep it up!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Host of the Tumultuous Storm on August 17, 2009, 06:50:41 PM
i must say on the second and third sketches of the soul grinder idea, i like the second best.  it really entails the machine-esque feel of the soul grinder. 
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Dalinair on August 21, 2009, 10:55:13 AM
I think the FW keeper body on top of a set of defiler legs with a bit of modding here and there would make a great slaanesh soul grinder, damn expensive though! Your be a rich and brave man to pay for the keeper and butcher it :)
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Lucky_Jackal on August 21, 2009, 10:11:45 PM
I found this cool concept for a "Defilerette".
http://imric1251.deviantart.com/art/quot-Defilerette-quot-63705233 (http://imric1251.deviantart.com/art/quot-Defilerette-quot-63705233)

Something along that lines, sept more fleshy for a Soul Grinder.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on August 23, 2009, 04:31:30 AM
Oh I've seen the defilerette...sweet huh!  Theirs another one floating around that's even better, with the blast cannon coming out of a giant vagina.   :-\ 

I'm still working on the Soulgrinder designs.  But i did manage to finish the basic heads for my scratch-built Daemon Princesses.  I'll be changing the expressions on each, and adding different horns, hair, and detailing to each.  I plan on doing 5 different heads.  And yes, space marine lovers there will be a screaming head!   

So, the completed kit when cast up will have lots of options: you'll be able to select one of 3 poses, you'll also get 5 different heads, 2 sets of arms with and without claws, and three weapons choices, along with removable magnetized wings.  I'll also have custom conversion available upon request with alternate poses etc.

Here are a few mock-ups I knocked together with different horn configurations: (Note - these are done with soft clay, so they're just to give an idea of size and placement.  The really horns will be sharper and less droopy.   :D )

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Anyway let me know what you'll think.  Got an idea for a horns, hair style or facial expression post up a picture.


More soon: Soulgrinder pics, etc.

Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rudkin on August 23, 2009, 06:09:39 PM
Some swept-back horns might be a nice addition, too. A bit like these ones:
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...although I'd go for something a bit smaller....

You might want to take a look at the Beasts of Chaos (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/landingArmy.jsp?catId=cat1130003&rootCatGameStyle=) for horn ideas, too.

Will you also have a princess head without any horns? It may look a bit plain, but depending on what you plan to do with them, a hornless head could be worth adding, if only for variety.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on August 24, 2009, 10:36:20 AM

Okay...progress!

So, like I was saying their will be at least 5 head variants.  For now they'll be based of the same basic head.  But since the face looks a little to bland.  I will be modifying the expressions for each into either something more aggressive or more seductive.
These are still WIP.  :nono:   


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This was a first attempt at a screaming variants....note to self must get reference next time....  Is it just me or does this not look like a blowup doll mouth?  :D

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So, what do you think is this working so far? Or am I way off base with these?

...


Changing gears.  I got a box of grave ghouls to convert up for my "Tormenters of Slaanesh" er...count as Plaguebearers.  Anyway I was looking through the WF minis as came across this guy. 

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I think he's a perfect example of where to go with them.  Black leather and a heavy S&M theme.  Lots of piercings, chains, and manacles etc.  I just love the peaked hood. Okay, so the little dude on his chest is kinda lame...but still.



More later...
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Lucky_Jackal on August 24, 2009, 07:57:21 PM
For the tormentors. I sujest something corset like around there wastes, with bare chests.

It would tie into the S&M feel, and give them a slight Cross dressing feel to them. It would tie in nicely.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Fafnir on August 24, 2009, 09:22:35 PM
If you want to have fun with the blowup doll mouth, make a pipe go from the mouth to something, like a really kinky looking breathing instrument. It would be disturbingly kinky.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Jehan-Reznor on August 25, 2009, 01:50:46 AM
Quote
This was a first attempt at a screaming variants....note to self must get reference next time....  Is it just me or does this not look like a blowup doll mouth? 
why not? add an airplug and paint the deamonette in that shiny fake skin color ;D
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: CobraCommander on August 25, 2009, 04:43:42 AM
I'm... Going to keep track of this thread... For future ah... reference... In concerns to... Yeah...*ahem*

 ;)

Great thread, I'm really blown away by what you've done. This kind of makes me want to start Daemons... But I have too much on my plate already. But this definatly gives me some ideas. Some time in the future, I may try and contact you to get/bounce ideas off you.

COOOBBBRRRAAA!!!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on September 9, 2009, 08:33:21 AM
Updates:


Daemon Princesses:

I don't know about putting hair on this one, so I'll need feed back.

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This one has flowing hair, and will have hair ornaments when done.  She's also getting a new less pouty face, or maybe having no nose or mouth is creeper?

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Yeah for Tentacles!

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Soul Grinder # 1

Okay here's sculpted leg in the mold box.  I should have cast tomorrow.

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Here are two photo composites of what she looks like with the sculpted legs.

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Soul Grinder #2

Here the final mechanical leg base for the pregnant grinder

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Here's the start of the build up.

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Grinder #3

For grinder #3 I decided to re-purpose this guy. He's going to be a huge KOS style daemon counts as.

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More Later!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rudkin on September 9, 2009, 11:43:33 PM
PRINCESSES:

For the first princess, the horns are so large that I think adding hair might be good to balance it out a bit.

I presume, for the second one, that you'll be doing a bit more work on the underside of the hair? Aside from that, I like it. It definately needs a mouth added back on, so don't neglect that detail!

The third (tentacled) one looks good, although the the combination of the tongue and position of the model makes me think that she is going to (or is) vomit(ting). I mean no disrespect; it's good, but perhaps if you could make the face a bit more snarly it might counteract that impression. Also, there is a blob (for a lack of a better word) on the top left of her head that is either a horn or an incomplete tentacle; the lack of a second horn-like object inclines me to think that it is a short tentacle that needs lengthening, although giving that princess two small swept-back horns might not be too bad a look.

~~~~~~
SOUL GRINDERS:

Regarding the leg, it is a nice organic take on the Defiler legs. It certainly looks like it'll work well for you.

The pregnant 'grinder seems a bit out of place with the rest of your force, I'm afraid. Overall you have a very low-tech (almost no-tech) force, and she's... well, she's all-tech. I'm sure it'll look good in the end, but I'm not convinced that it will fit style-wise with the rest of the army.

And as for the counts-as... it'll be interesting to see how it progresses. Please keep us posted with updates and WIP shots!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on September 11, 2009, 06:59:34 AM
Thanks for the Rudkin!


Soul Grinder #3

Here's more progress on the KOS - grinder stand in.  He's being based off this image:

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 I'm using super sculpey to quickly build up the anatomy of the model.  Once baked I'll be skinning it with Aves apoxy putty and detailing it.


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Soul Grinder #1

Worked on the pregnant SG as well.  I'm  baking the shoulders and ribcage at the moment so that I can drill the holes for the arms, and start work on them.  I also started work on the mechanical legs for her mobile.  The black lines on the model are there to indicate the locations of the various muscle groups. 

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Soul Grinder #2

The casting of the legs for the 6-legged SG.  I'll be working on the body1 and head to day.  She's going quickly, though so updates on her this evening.   


Daemon Princess:

I didn't get much feedback regarding the heads or hair on them.  But I'd like some suggestions on adding some nice final details to them.  I want them to look sexy rather than gribbly.  But, looking at the GW greater daemons, they seem a little under detailed at the moment. 



Anyway I have to get ready for work.  Happy Friday!


Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on September 11, 2009, 07:25:15 AM
PRINCESSES:

For the first princess, the horns are so large that I think adding hair might be good to balance it out a bit.

I presume, for the second one, that you'll be doing a bit more work on the underside of the hair? Aside from that, I like it. It definately needs a mouth added back on, so don't neglect that detail!

The third (tentacled) one looks good, although the the combination of the tongue and position of the model makes me think that she is going to (or is) vomit(ting). I mean no disrespect; it's good, but perhaps if you could make the face a bit more snarly it might counteract that impression. Also, there is a blob (for a lack of a better word) on the top left of her head that is either a horn or an incomplete tentacle; the lack of a second horn-like object inclines me to think that it is a short tentacle that needs lengthening, although giving that princess two small swept-back horns might not be too bad a look.

Thanks for the feed back.  I'm thinking of adding either a short pixie style hair cut to DP#1 or a pony tail with barrettes made fro eldar skulls.  She'll be getting a loincloth to since her bare nether region looks a little plain.

For the DP#2 your right I did miss the under side of the hair, son of a... ;D  Yeah, she'll be getting a face, maybe a smirk?  I'll sketch up some ideas.

FOr DP#3 I'll be dropping the tounge as it seems to have gone over like a lead balloon.  It was just a thought anyway.  Thanks for the snarling Idea, I will definitely be using it for her.   The horn-like thing...is in fact a horn.  I intended her to look like a giant Diaz-style daemonette.  So that's why she has a single horn.  Way back in the "Slave to Darkness" days an Aspiring champion of Slaanesh could received the "gift" of having the face of either a: daemonette, fiend, or a KOS.  I've tried to incorporate that here.  The DP#1 for instance has a head similar to the FW KOS.


Quote
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SOUL GRINDERS:

Regarding the leg, it is a nice organic take on the Defiler legs. It certainly looks like it'll work well for you.

The pregnant 'grinder seems a bit out of place with the rest of your force, I'm afraid. Overall you have a very low-tech (almost no-tech) force, and she's... well, she's all-tech. I'm sure it'll look good in the end, but I'm not convinced that it will fit style-wise with the rest of the army.

And as for the counts-as... it'll be interesting to see how it progresses. Please keep us posted with updates and WIP shots!

I think you right on the pregnant grinder being to mechanical.  As I've been sculpting it I've been leaning more and more to an organic version of the model.  The walker Dais may be the only mechanical part, ultimately.

I finished casting up the legs on the second SG.  So, she's moving along fast, and will definitely be done this weekend.  I must say she looks much better in life than in my sketches.  The sexy, spider, ballerina nature of the legs is pretty creepy.  The triple fan service crotch shot will doubtlessly disturb many, as well.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: burgers4me on September 12, 2009, 05:14:04 AM
Some size pictures with maybe a daemon would be kool. You know, to see how big they are :D
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on September 13, 2009, 07:05:49 AM
Okay, progress!

First here is the second KOS:

I've completely bulked him out in sculpey as much as needed to.  I'll be switching gray-tinted Aves Fixit Sculpt next.  The claws you see on the model were originally intended for the Daemon Princess models, and are just place holders.  They far to small compared to my reference image, and will be replaced later.  The feet are from the WF Giant model and are also to small, so I'll be re-sculpting on those too.

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Here's the model scaled against an IG model.

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Here's the model scaled against the FW KOS model.

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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on September 13, 2009, 07:15:26 AM
Here is where I am on the first Soul Grinder:

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Here it is scaled against the FW KOS.

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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on September 13, 2009, 07:40:49 AM
And here is my Progress with the pregnant Soul Grinder:

She's been fun to sculpt, working out the anatomy so that the chest and arms could actually work resulted in two sets of pectoral muscles,  which ofcourse justifies a second set of breasts, no?  :D

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Here the model is scaled against a IG model:

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Here the model is scaled against a the 6.5 inch tall FW KOS model:


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Sorry, its a bit blurry.





Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on September 13, 2009, 07:49:17 AM
Finally, because a few people asked here's some scaling shots of the Daemon Princesses and a group shot of the larger models in the army.


Daemon Princesses first.  Note that the FW KOS is 6.5 inches tall, while the IG model is 1 inch tall.

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Group Shots

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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: burgers4me on September 13, 2009, 05:57:23 PM
Slaneesh would be pleased, very pleased.

Now I have seen the Daemon Princesses to scale, I understand them! They would be awesome HQs!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Jehan-Reznor on September 14, 2009, 04:45:17 AM
cannot wait to see them painted, keep it up.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on September 14, 2009, 09:58:02 AM
Hi Guys!

So, I worked on the big boy some more last night.  With his hunched over pose he's approximately 14.5 cm tall, if he were standing erect he'd be around 20 cm.  At this point I've skinned him with Aves Fixit Sculpt, so he's rock solid.  I've enlarged the feet and replaced the claws with a far larger set; to better match the reference.  He's also had his horns blocked in and his head started.

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Here's another comparison with the FW KOS.  It should be easier to see now that he's more of a neutral gray.

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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on September 16, 2009, 09:31:17 PM
Okay the new stuffs!



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Here's another Daemon Princess Head, with a re-sculpted face and smaller chin.


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I also started casting 60mm bases for the Gluttons, it only costs me pennies to do vs the $10 for 1 from GW.  Shocking!  :o


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Here's a Picture of all the molds I've made for this army.  That's about $200 worth of silicon rubber.


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Lastly, here's a pic of my current display case.

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More later!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Qui-Gon Jinn on September 16, 2009, 10:50:52 PM
There is only one thing that does not make this army 10/10, and which keeps it at 7/10: Painting.
There is no paint on the models. I cannot, in good conscience, praise your whole army unless it is painted. And what is more, from the amount of stuff you have, you'll have a Warp of a time doing it all justice.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rudkin on September 16, 2009, 11:08:29 PM
That's quite the price tag on those moulds! At least you might be able to get some of that back if you sell some of these as kits (since they're all scratch-built and unique in design there's no IP problems... unless some of them have the Slaanesh symbol modelled on? If so, you may have issues with that...). Just tag them as "Pleasure Daemons" or something and you're set (after all, that tactic works for Ultraforge Minis)!

~~~~~
Regarding the latest Princess head, it's coming along nicely. The top lip seems a bit too curled up and/or large (unless you were intentionally going for the sort of "puckered" look?) and the forehead ridges are a touch uneven (the ridge on the right side of her face is noticably higher than on the left). I'd touch that up. Also, obviously, don't forget to smooth out the long horns; about halfway down needs some work.

I like the smaller chin, though; it looks good.

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And as for your KOS, you're doing a good job keeping close to the original image. I'm quite impressed. Do keep it up.

Oh, and in general, I hadn't realized just how large these models were! Once you've got everything done that'll look really impressive on the tabletop!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on September 19, 2009, 07:56:57 AM
There is only one thing that does not make this army 10/10, and which keeps it at 7/10: Painting.
There is no paint on the models. I cannot, in good conscience, praise your whole army unless it is painted. And what is more, from the amount of stuff you have, you'll have a Warp of a time doing it all justice.


I can't argue with that.  I should be done modeling and converting by end of next week.  Then the real work begins.  I only intend to take the troops to a high table top standard, and I'll be airbrushing all the base coats as perhaps some shading.  Assembly line here I come.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Noodles the Defiler on September 19, 2009, 09:13:43 AM
looking forward to seeing your hard work pay off then.
very interested to see what colours you will give them as well as the "continuity" (or however it spells...) as they seem to be getting along very nicely on a clean, uniform look so far.

the big guy is impressive, sure, but i am more amazed by the smaller princesses and alike so far, with their detail and sensual looks.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Hive Node on September 21, 2009, 03:40:02 PM
I'm not sure if you finished your plaguebearer stand -ins or not, but maybe take a look at a character from the Soul Calbur games called Voldo.

He screams S&M, almost literally.

Here is one picture of him:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/Voldo/Full_Metal1923/sc3-voldo-02.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/image/Voldo/Full_Metal1923/sc3-voldo-02.jpg)

Though he has several different costumes from different games.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: tryanotherone - smurfernating on September 22, 2009, 03:56:39 PM
Fantastic project. And very diverse.

I hope we are going to see more updates soon (not trying to pressure you in any way ;D)
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on September 23, 2009, 07:36:17 AM
Hi All! This is going to be a post.  I've gotten allot done ins the last few days but haven't had time to get the pics organized and posted.




FW KOS:

Here I've replaced all of the GS putty studs on the leggings and arm with ball bearings and chromed glass beads.  I still have to make a new symbol for her staff and need to re-attach the whip otherwise she's done.

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Close up of the leg.  Note also the bead work on the loin cloth, and the metal nipple ring.

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Close up of the arm.  Note also the bead on the forehead and the bead on her pierced tongue.

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Daemon Princesses:


Lots of detailing work done here, especially fixing the faces.

Princess # 1

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Here is the detailed bead work I did on torso, and arm.  Also notice that the head has been swapped.

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Princess # 2

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Here is the detailed bead work I did on her arms and legs.  Also notice that the head has been swapped their all fully interchangeable all four poses and all five heads.

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Princess # 3

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Here's a close up of here enlarged chin.  As several people pointed out that she looked chinless.

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Head Swaps:

These are just to show how effected the heads are when swapped out.

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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on September 23, 2009, 07:37:04 AM
Scratch built Keeper of Secrets:

I should have this guy all massed out today.  I've left the hand and arms undeveloped at the wrists and fingers as I've not finalized the pose yet.  I'm also trying to keep him generic looking to avoid IP issues if I decided to sell him.  He'll probably have hand that can e swapped out, and possibly a head swap as well.

These are from two days ago:

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As of last night:

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Oh and a scale shot with a true-scaled marine....   :D

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Pregnant Soulgrinder:

She's coming along nicely....

Two days ago....

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As of last night...

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A few close ups of the er...anatomy.

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And finally the current head WIP.  I'm trying something a bit different here by starting with the skull and building up to the moaning head.

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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: SMVaughn on September 23, 2009, 10:05:11 AM
Well I am curious, what the scale of your custom models are. The work is most amazing. Anyway we could get a means to see a larger pic.

I also am eager to see the paint scheme.

You must be a sculpter.

Cheers
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: tryanotherone - smurfernating on September 23, 2009, 02:27:49 PM
That's quite some update.

Looks like you been very busy these days.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on October 3, 2009, 03:21:40 AM
Not dead yet....


Hi guys.  I've got a couple of updates for ya.


KOS #2

I took the time to cut this guy up and socket the major joints and torso to make him easier to detail and ultimately cast.  He's actually further along that this but I've gotta sort through all the in progress pics I have before I post most on him.  Basically all that's left to do is finalize that hand poses, punch up the anatomy a bit with some light carving work, and smooth sanding the surface. 

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Pregnant Soulgrinder:

This is coming along nicely as well.  I've got the body done, and I'm currently working on the head.  Since its the make of break part of the model I'm taking my time with it.  In these pictures I chopped the model up in preparation of sculpting male/female connections.  I was a necessity for the legs because their pose din not allow me to easily sculpt the feet and shin areas.  Ive also gone ahead and started installing the metal sockets for the wiring that will bind her to the walker.

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I ended up bulking her up to much; making her look more fat than sexy.  So I've started carving some definition back into the model.  Disturbingly, the best photo reference I could find were not work safe.   :o   ;)   I know I'll never look at pregnant women the same again.  :lol:

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Here is the styrene sheet skeleton for the walker arms.  They will be built up with putty and machined the right size and shape.  Once the prototype is done I cast of six resin copies for the model.  As you can see the legs are sully articulated.  I'll be using silicon washers and plastic pins to allow the model to be fully poseable.

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More later on today!

Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: augustmanifesto on October 3, 2009, 04:04:41 PM
oh my dear god. seriously. Do you take comissions? Do you work for games workshop? they really, really need you. This is the most insane stuff I've ever seen in the land of make-your-own-40k-stuff. I can't wait to see the soulgrinder as it takes shape
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on October 4, 2009, 05:43:41 PM
augustmanifesto:

Hi thanks for the reply.  I do indeed accept commissions, but I'm tied up at the moment with a couple and my own projects at the moment.




Updates!


Okay so the FW KOS is done.  She's got a new staff icon to replace the generic CSM Slaanesh icon.  She's been sanded and detailed.  So its off to the display cabinet until its time to prime and paint her.

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Also here's some more progress shots of the pregnant grinder.  I'm scratch building the walker/throne out of styrene as we speak, so pics on that soon.

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And a couple of shot of one the heralds mounts:

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More to follow!


PS.  Anyone know why the images keep resizing?
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on October 4, 2009, 05:46:37 PM
Thanks guys!  Your continued interest in the project makes it easier to keep focused. 




So, I was researching Slaanesh on Google for ideas and saw this:

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And immediately recognized it as this WF sketch for a new Fiend of Slaanesh model back in the 6th edition. 


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Its from the same series of designs as the FW Keeper and the 6th edition Diaz-nettes:

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Since, I have the FW Keeper and diaz-nettes I of course simply must have one of these as well.  So, say hello to Soul Grinder #3 :P   So, expect more 6 breasted, multi-horned, goodness soon.

I have to admit though that although I really like this design. It really doesn't work as a fiend for me. A named daemon sure, fiend no. Having said that I will probably sculpt my own fiend variant in all its sleek 10 breasted "Slave to Darkness" glory.

I have no idea what I'll use them as though, fleshhounds? fiends?

Progress to follow!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rudkin on October 4, 2009, 06:57:15 PM
Well, if you're looking to make a spawn-like creature, the best analog would probably be the Fiends. Either that, or keep them around in case you use the Boon of Mutation power!

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My only concern with the spawn style you are suggesting is the hind legs; It still has very much a bipedal look, which strikes me as odd. I mean, I guess it could still work, but it seems almost too humanoid to make an ideal spawn. I know that the actual spawn models are bipedal, but I guess they can get away with that because they are generally sufficiently animalistic or non-human (note the typical position of the head, for example). This style.... I don't know. Perhaps I just need time to get used to it.

Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on October 6, 2009, 10:43:33 AM
Okay small update:


Legs for the Preggers throne:


These still need some sanding an truing up, before their ready to cast.  I'm also thinking about carving some inlaid detail flourishes as well.

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And a few pics of her head as it is currently.  The upper lip looks that way because thats actually her upper teeth.  When dry the lips will partially cover it.  The expression I'm going for is exstacy/agony, some there somewhat of a grimace in their as well.  The eyes will be closed.

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Question does she need horns?  Slaanesh is generally horned but I'm not sure, I better get to sketching.


More later!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on October 7, 2009, 04:25:53 AM

Yet more progress:

Okay the face/head is much further along now.  I'm still resolving the features such as the eyes, nose, and mouth.  At this point I'm switching using solely a generic skull for reference and I'm working toward a specific person's face as reference.

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The size of the head looks to be correct now, as you can see I had to add material to fill out the back of the skull.  Its a common error most people make when either drawing or sculpting the head. 

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In case anyone wondering the duct tape is holding the legs together while the putty sets.


More soon!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: burgers4me on October 7, 2009, 06:32:36 AM
since slaanesh is whatever it wants to be, and this one is female it needs something! Anything! There is never a bald GD of Slaanesh. She needs horns or hair or instriments of torture. Something. I trust you can be imaginative :D
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rudkin on October 7, 2009, 10:38:57 PM
I just had a completely random thought regarding your hands; it's a bit late now, but having six fingers would be extremely appropriate (given Slaanesh's favoured number). There was a Reaper model (Nephal, Shadow Prince Demon) (http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/shadow/latest/03086) I stumbled across recently with extra fingers, which is why it came to mind. Perhaps a detail you might consider in a future project?

Also regarding hands, I presume you'll be going back to it, but the hand on top of the belly looks a bit odd; the pinkey side of the back of the hand looks like it has a kink in it, and it looks like the thumb connects to the palm too far up. Come to think of it, the fingers all look a tad short; if it's a choice between too short and too long, go too long for these (long slender fingers seem ideal for Slaanesh). It looks like you'll just need to carve down between the fingers a bit more to (potentially) solve all of these problems! Then again, it may just be the camera angle making them look odd.

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As for bald heads, the smooth Daemonette heads are actually pretty nice. For the Pregnant Grinder I will withhold judgement regarding the need to add something to the head once it is closer to completion (that is, when it would essentially be done except for any hair); if it looks good bald, baldly go!

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Well, as always, keep up the good work, Sersi.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on October 8, 2009, 04:40:54 AM
Hi Rudkin!

I'll be sorting out those hands soon.  But I want your opinion on this:



So I've been thinking...


So I was looking through my bits boxes today for some inspiration; and a piece of corrugated hose inspired this.  Now the Idea here is in a manner similar to Alien Queen in Aliens, the daemon has a hose attached to her naughty bits that deposits her children/spawn behind the walker as it moves on blasting stuff.

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My only fear is that the hose passing through her throne makes is look like a giant toilet!  :*)   The hose would be attached to her lower body with metal hooks of course, to keep it real.  :D   The spawn would be a several of my converted grave ghouls....er...excu se me Painlings!

Too much?


A couple of other ideas:

1.  How about making the fingers holding the belly longer and digging bloody rents into the flesh.
2.  Someone suggested having engorged veins along the sides of the belly.


Thoughts?
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Jehan-Reznor on October 8, 2009, 06:06:20 AM
How about medusa like hair? with small horns and get them Painted!!! ;D
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rudkin on October 8, 2009, 10:40:46 PM
Now the Idea here is in a manner similar to Alien Queen in Aliens, the daemon has a hose attached to her naughty bits that deposits her children/spawn behind the walker as it moves on blasting stuff.
I think I would shy away from this design if it were up to me. While making something Alien Queen-ish would be interesting, I just don't fell that it's quite right for this particular project. The organic/metallic balance is pretty good as it is without adding in extra tubing and what-not. Additionally, it looks like it would make her too upright; I much prefer a slightly more reclined look for this Grinder.

Still, I would set that idea aside for future consideration. You could certainly make something interesting designed completely around the concept of the hose-delivery-system, but I just don't feel it's right for this.


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1.  How about making the fingers holding the belly longer and digging bloody rents into the flesh.
This is an interesting idea, and whether or not you use it depends in large part on the style you are aiming for with the Grinder.

As it is with the caressing of the belly you have an interesting maternal, loving look to the hands, which I think works quite nicely; it makes the entire model seem more at peace in some way (or at least it emphasises the pleasure and ecstasy she is feeling). Given the context (a horrid killing machine in a grim dark future), it makes for a nice juxtaposition. She is the mother of these creatures, and she is proud to endure the suffering for them.

With her tearing at her belly it's almost like she is being tortured from within. This clearly emphasises the pain she is undergoing. She hates what she has become and despises being a carrier of these wretched spawn within her belly.

Either way works. It's entirely up to you. (Note that the above is entirely my interpretation, and if you disagree I totally understand. It's really just what I thought of when comparing the two hand styles). I personally like the caressing look, but I can imagine what the other would look like and, while potentially gruesome, could work equally well. The trick of course is that tearing the flesh will probably be a bit trickier for you to pull off (but you have already proven that you are capable of doing it).

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2.  Someone suggested having engorged veins along the sides of the belly.
Hm... A part of me would be disappointed to have the smoothness of the belly (which certainly fits in with the typical Slaanesh style) disturbed, but at the same time it would add some extra detail to it which could be nice.

What I would be tempted to do, though, instead of pulsing veins, would be to sculpt or carve a sort of tattoo pattern.

A Google search came up with a couple of potentially useful images to give you the kind pattern I was thinking of ("Tribal Tattoo" got some good images):
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The more rounded ones would work better, I think:
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I wouldn't go overboard with it, but a little bit of it might work well (see the first image; that, or just a wee bit more, would be a good target for size and complexity). The other option would be to leave the belly smooth and just paint these tattoos on. The latter may be your best option, actually. You could always paint on large veins, too (and they may end up looking better than if they were carved on).

Just some thoughts. I hope my rambling helps.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on October 10, 2009, 05:12:50 AM
Thanks for the input Rudkin. 

I'm moving away from the birthing chair idea and going with something more along the lines of Slaaneshi-stylized Buddha.  I'm also thinking about returning her to the original reclining position, as well.  I really like both of you interpretations, now torn on what to do with the hands.



Updates later today.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on October 10, 2009, 07:16:22 PM
Head update:
 
Well I'd say another half hour or so and this will be done.  I still need to fatten up the lower lip, enlarge the nostrils, apply a slight bit of rhinoplasty, a little general sanding and done.


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Remaining decisions:

1. what to do about the tongue: in, sticking out, long or normal?
2. sculpted eyebrows or painted?
3. full lip or thin lips.
4. here's the current idea for the horns.

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So, opinions, etc?


More to come!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rudkin on October 10, 2009, 08:35:42 PM
The Mouth:

I would shy away from a long tongue; I feel it would detract from the (dare I say) 'orgasmic' expression of the face.

The mouth as it is looks like it has a bit of an underbite from some angles (5th and 6th images especially). It may just be the angles playing a trick on my eyes, though.

The Eyebrows:

The forehead looks a bit too flat. If you carefully examine a typical forehead there is often a buldge (the "superciliary arch") with a very slight valley just above it*. As such, building up the eyebrow location a tad may help it to look more natural. Keep it smooth, though, and don't go too thick. Just a little bit of variation in depth should do.


*We were discussing this sort of thing in my stage make-up class last Wednesday; with make-up you would highlight under the hairline, and above the eyebrows, then shade slightly in the middle of the forehead to enhance that sort of S-shape.


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This is a bit of an extreme example, but it was one of the clearest I could find to illustrate what I meant. You'll notice if you look closely that his forehead dips in just above the eyebrows, then back out sort of like this:

 ) <--- part way up the forehead.
( <---- just above the eyebrows.
 ) <--- the eyebrows rest on this ridge.



The Horns:

The forward-curling horns feel like they break up the lines of the model. The head, tipped back as it is, would benefit more from horns, hair, or tentacles that were going in the same general direction. The curled horns may work better if they went back first instead of out to the sides? It's a thought, but I'm not sure that it would work all that well even then.

The Ears:
We haven't really talked about them much, but I presume you'll be tidying them up a bit more as you progress? They look a bit rough on the inside, still, which is why I mentioned it. Also, will you be separating the top edge of them from the side of the head at all? It may look a bit better (or it may just make the ears look really sticky-out and weird), but it will most certainly make the ears more fragile, which is an important consideration for something like this (it would probably also make casting a bit of a headache...).
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on October 10, 2009, 09:15:52 PM
Rudkin:

The Mouth:

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I would shy away from a long tongue; I feel it would detract from the (dare I say) 'orgasmic' expression of the face.


I have to agree with that.  It would detract from the expression; and it kind of a gimmicky anyway right?  There are hopefully enough other interesting bits to the model.

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The mouth as it is looks like it has a bit of an underbite from some angles (5th and 6th images especially). It may just be the angles playing a trick on my eyes, though.

I measured the jaw arc with some calipers and your right there is an definite underbite.  Since the chin is a bit to prominent as well I'll carve it back and reposition the lower teeth.  It shouldn't be to hard.

The Eyebrows:

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The forehead looks a bit too flat. If you carefully examine a typical forehead there is often a buldge (the "superciliary arch") with a very slight valley just above it*. As such, building up the eyebrow location a tad may help it to look more natural. Keep it smooth, though, and don't go too thick. Just a little bit of variation in depth should do.

Thanks for that example I get what you mean now.  I'll work on that as well.

The Horns:

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The forward-curling horns feel like they break up the lines of the model. The head, tipped back as it is, would benefit more from horns, hair, or tentacles that were going in the same general direction. The curled horns may work better if they went back first instead of out to the sides? It's a thought, but I'm not sure that it would work all that well even then.

I think your right about it not working with the design.  Perhaps some tiny forward pointed horns or some short-ish swept back horns instead?

The Ears:

[/quote] We haven't really talked about them much, but I presume you'll be tidying them up a bit more as you progress? They look a bit rough on the inside, still, which is why I mentioned it. Also, will you be separating the top edge of them from the side of the head at all? It may look a bit better (or it may just make the ears look really sticky-out and weird), but it will most certainly make the ears more fragile, which is an important consideration for something like this (it would probably also make casting a bit of a headache...). [/quote]

These are what I'm least happy with at the moment.  I'd assumed that it would be easier to carve them out of the hardened putty's basic shape.  Now, I plan to just cut them off again and model them in stages with soft putty; starting with a drilled hole to provide some depth.  I do plan to have the ears separated from the scalp.  I'm not too worried about casting them, as the resin I use is very durable and has a slight give to it.


Thanks allot Rudkin, I really appreciate the feedback, and critique.  Well i'm off to work on those flaws. 

I still haven't decided whether she should be shackled or not, and I need to design her connection to the walker.  I'm thinking some kind of futon or cushion? I just don't know, yet.

Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: CobraCommander on October 11, 2009, 05:47:19 PM
I've noticed on the gradual progression of your pregnant soul grinder that you've put excellent detail into the upper, organic half of the machine. What I'm curious about is what you're going to do with the bottom, mechanical half. Especially concerning weapons. I mean, yeah you could just say that it stomps/stabs its enemies with her spider legs when she gets into assault. But I think that would just detract from the overall model.

I was going to suggest something tentacle like, although keep the mechanic look. Something like Omega Reds, or the newer Dr. Octopus look, in my opinion would be suiting. its just, to me at least. Something built like I don't think would just run in and stomp/impale things with its legs. Instead pierce/entangle things with delicate slender (For its size) tendrils. Just a suggestion.

COOOBBBRRRAAA!!!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: augustmanifesto on October 12, 2009, 08:53:57 PM
as far as the connection to the walker: i would suggest using the contact of demon-machine to add some darkness to the model. I'm thinking here of wires, tubes, and so on giving the appearance that the body was almost grafted to the walker.  Something to give the impression of the 'grim-darkness' (i.e. 40kishness) of bio-mechanical union.

just my thought, you know what your doing better than me
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on October 13, 2009, 10:29:12 PM
Hiya!

Update time. 

So, I've made some revisions on the Pregnant Soul Grinder who's working name is now "Carna", after the roman goddess of flesh, from whose name the word carnal; as in "carnal knowledge" was derived.  Until of unless someone thinks up a better one for me.   :D

Changes:

- decided to go with a short tongue in the mouth as it looked best.
- cut off and re-sculpted a smaller chin and re-sculpted the teeth.
- changed the pose of the praying hand to simply having the fingers interlaced.

Likely Changes:

- for the horns I'm going with some very small subtle horns.
- long hair tied to a ring on the dais, to restrain the movement of her head.
- the supporting hands will be shackled to the dais.
- subtle veining on the abdomen.
- claw marks from the hands holding the abdomen.

I need feedback on:

- inspired by the "6" wings of Seraphim, she will now have 3 pairs of wings to tie her into the them of the other models.
- idea for the dais that she resting on.  Its the only thing holding me up now.



Well enough talk...on with the pictures:


Close ups of the head and face:

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Torso:

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Full Body:

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Walker Legs:

These are done they just need to be cast up.  There fully articulated, so I should be able to get some great dynamic when it comes time to pose the walker. 

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As always more later!   :P
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: burgers4me on October 13, 2009, 11:07:37 PM
You know, when you cast the legs, ou could add piping and wires to make it looks like Daemon flesh of a mechanical frame :D
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on October 15, 2009, 04:56:41 AM
Well the wing idea seems to have gone over like a lead balloon.   Hmmm...Maybe this image will sell you on them.  Or not...

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Not my work by the way, but cool none the less.  Also pretty similar to what I'm trying to do here, well except for her having an alligator for her crotch!   :o  :D

I'll shelve the wing Idea for now, though.  The following is in the cards for today.

Carna:

1. some sort of crown or tiara.
2. small subtle horns.
3. normal hair hanging down to the dais.
4. shackles on the supporting hands and feet

Spiderwalker:

1. a cushion dais with lounging daemonettes sounds interesting.
2. the legs are looking pretty plain, I will probably scribe in some details to break up the surface.

Anybody still like the idea of it being a corrupted Eldar Farseer?  Or is her just being a daemon bad/good enough?


Oh I also started on an alternate head for the Male KOS. Similar to this:

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I'll be altering the body after casting to add the bony spines and spikes, etc.



Keeps the comments and suggestions coming, the certainly help.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: burgers4me on October 16, 2009, 09:18:58 AM
Seriously Sersi, WHERE DOI YOU FIND THIS STUFF?????

The wings look good, but the problem is these are two incredibly different models. Your have gator-lady, and your awesome walking prego-lady. BRAINWAVE!
Why not, instead of wings, have cables that not only connect the daemon to the 'throne' but also to two daemonettes wired into her, wielding her weapons :D
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on October 17, 2009, 12:08:12 PM
So, today's ideas:

I'm thinking of sculpting a raised Slaanesh symbol around the inset barrel of the maw cannon; like so:

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Here's a better picture of the symbol.

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So, I've decided to go with corrupted Farseer concept.  Which lead me to a few ideas, and questions:

1. She'll have a corrupted soul stone fused to her sternum.
2. The walker will be festooned with captured soul stones that will be use to power the walker, in a complete perversion of Eldar technology.
3. I intend to paint her with Eldar symbols that have been slashed or defaced with scars of brands.

What else would work to sell the model as a Farseer? 

Basing:

I plan on using the fall of Eldar as the theme for my basing: ie shattered statues, symbols inlaid into marble floors, and collapsed wraith bone structures.  I'm thinking the plaster would be the most realistic way to create the originals; although I would most likely cast them in resin later for strength at the very least.  So I've been making little styrene stamps to press eldar-ish symbols into wet plaster that I'll texture.  When its dry I'll break the sheet up into tiles for the marble bases. 

Does anyone have a reference image for what an infinity gate or world spirit are supposed to look like?

Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: NecronCell2131 on October 17, 2009, 12:43:43 PM
The progress is astounding, keep up the good work cant wait to see it completed and painted.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on October 19, 2009, 11:28:05 AM
Sorry I have to post fast I'm running late for work:   :*)




Updates to the Keeper of Secrets:


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Here an idea for the walker leg configuration.  I still have worked the connection between the to yet.



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More later!



Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: tryanotherone - smurfernating on October 19, 2009, 01:50:27 PM
Good show.
 Every time I pop in here, I see some majorprogress.

I wonder where how this ends.
I just hope you don't give up while being half finished.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on October 20, 2009, 10:41:38 PM
Hi All!  I nearly done with the big KOS...tonight for sure...maybe....



Anyway here's some progress:


Full body stuff first. 

For the last two days I've been smoothing the model and correcting minor defects in the surface.  As well as correcting some basic anatomy and silhouette issues.  That's all pretty much done now, and while not all that noticeable in the pictures to follow they would be really obvious if it was sitting on your desk.  I still have to clean up the head, but I been focused on getting the teeth and tongue in place for that part. 


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Parts Breakdown:

Here's the model broken down into its components, for easy casting.  So, you got: the main body, 2x arms, 2x clawed arms, head, and tongue.  Their will also be a separate piece for the loincloth.  Other parts that I haven't decided on yet may include: a cod piece, second head, alternate hands, and sword. 

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Head Close Ups:

Two thing to note here: one the tongue is a completely separate piece, want to GS as longer one, no problem.  Second the teeth are metal, clipped stick pins actually.  I'm not sure how well they'll cast yet, but we'll see how it goes.

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Well that's it for today.  I've been trying to keep this model far enough away from GW IP as possible while trying to keep the feel of the original art.  Let me know how I'm doing?  I say remove the crab claws and he's pretty generic looking. 

Questions:

1.  Should the claws be toothed like the current GW KOS?
2.  Does he need ears?
3.  Does he need eyes?
4.  Does he need anything else?


More Soon!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on October 21, 2009, 06:46:24 AM
Still deciding on the pregnant soul grinders head, etc.  How about something like this?

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Perhaps a Slaanesh symbol branded into her forehead.




And now for something completely different!

Instruments!

Not really that useful in 40k, but useful in War hammer Fantasy.  Anyway I already decided to not use that abomination that comes in the Daemonette box.  So, I've decide to go with a combination of Dark Elf horns and custom flutes.  I choose flutes for the obvious innuendo connotations.  :*)    A couple of pose ideas:

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and this:

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Well not exactly not like the that, imagine a hot daemonette instead.   :D
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: tryanotherone - smurfernating on October 21, 2009, 02:01:46 PM

1.  Should the claws be toothed like the current GW KOS?

Yes, definately. The teeth look great and claws like that would add more detail to the mini.


2.  Does he need ears?

Not so sure about this one. Again, details are always good but it depends one how you want to do them. Got any ideas?

3.  Does he need eyes?

As above

4.  Does he need anything else?

Looks good as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on October 21, 2009, 10:27:24 PM
Hey guys!

A small update for you, some very WIP Gorgons "Counts as Horrors".  I'm doing 12 - 24 of these.

I still have to sculpt some new upper arms on most of them.  Their hands and forearms are bits from grave ghouls box set, and lots of hair spray, and 1980's style big hair.  :D

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I was originally going to do snake hair or large dreadlocks like the FW KOS.  I still may, but its so easy to just use these heads.   think glowing hands and eyes with perhaps some sculpted flames in a couple of hands will sell the concept.



More Later!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on November 2, 2009, 11:04:17 AM
Whoa...has it been that long?  Oy!  :D   I got caught up in work and some commision work, but we are now back on track...well for a while anyway.

Anywho here's an update.  Lots of stuff going on here. 


Pregnant Soulgrinder:

Only a little progress on the Pregnant grinder.  As I ran into difficulties, with the original walker concept.  The freaking walker was to freaking big. 

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I some how forgot that just the pregnant Farseer model was already the size of the GW grinder! Duh!  So, the throne/walker/birthing-chair has to fit within the the dimension of the existing model.

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So, here's what I've come up with so far:

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Just drilled out the belly gun.  I've also don a lot of clean up, detailing and sanding.

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After researching some how shall we say less than wholesome sites.  I decided to go with a having the main arms suspended in mid-air by a shackle-bar restraint.  I leave the hands as they are because they would be under tension and spasmodic anyway, so it kind fits.

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Right other stuff...


Gorgon Squad:

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Tormentor Squad:

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A couple of size comparisons:

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Slayer Squad:


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With their herald leading.

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I also started work on my 1st Herald:

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Other assorted WIPS:


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Later!










Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: tryanotherone - smurfernating on November 2, 2009, 02:12:22 PM
@ Sersi: This is getting better with each post. I love the way you converted / resculpted the demonettes and I absolutely love the detail of inhuman anatomy on the grinder. ;D

Very good work.

A question: Are you sculpting very often ... like on a professional basis?
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: burgers4me on November 2, 2009, 05:10:59 PM
Interesting, If you are still looking for a 'hair' for the grinder, I saw a Inquisitor scale daemonette in Golden Daemon. Looked awesome. It used two smallish horns and then basically octopus tentacles minus the suckers.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: SMVaughn on November 2, 2009, 06:47:32 PM
I can not imagine the time consumption into a project of this scale. Your work denotes proffessional sculpter, and your imagination on these works is stunning.

I aggree with past posters and probably mentioned it in my first. Paint. They all need paint.

I can not imagine the pure pride you will have if you field this on someone or at a GW Game Day. Your work is so inspirational. Keep at it. You will be done in no time with the amount of updates you get in.

Look forward to more.

Cheers
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on November 6, 2009, 07:41:55 AM
Well, the galleries not letting me upload at the moment, no idea why.  So, I'm rolling with photobucket this morning... Yeah, I know...I know...   My hope is that I don't burn through a month of bandwidth in a day this time.   :D



Keeper of Secrets:

This guy is done except for some minor work on the clavicles and scapula's to get those looking more anatomically correct. 

Changes:

1.  I lengthened the left leg and altered to pose slightly to correct the proportions. 
2.  He's got a loincloth now, is fully removable (man I love Aves Sculpt).
3.  There's a Slaanesh button on the loincloth that I just press molded off the WF Slaanesh champions banner pole.
4.  Yes, there is a nasty crack in the right leg, that needs to be filled.
5.  He has re-sculpted neck anatomy.
6.  Constructed a new scimitar like sword of styrene and Aves sculpt.
7.  Re-sculpted the hand to hold the sword.

The whole model will breakdown into the following parts:  Head, torso & legs, clawed arms, arms, sword, tounge, loincloth, icon of Slaanesh.

And now without further ado the nearly, almost finished, 99.99% done Keeper of Secrets:

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Detail on the loincloth:

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Yeah!


Oh, and here are all the Big guys minus the Grinders together:

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Soulgrinder:

Only a minor update on her today.

Changes:

1.  Added shackles to the main arms and legs along with some copper wire loops.  The will be further detailed with clasps and rivets soon.  Ultimatly these will be bound together with modeling chain.
2.  Minor anatomy work tho the lower back and buttocks.
3.  I also enlarged the praying hands to match the supporting hands.

To Come:

1.  Clawed hands digging into the belly.
2.  Veins on the belly.
3.  Pointed Ears.
4.  Detailing the Throne.

The model will breakdown into the following parts:  Head & torso, legs, arms, and throne.

Anyway here she is the Pregnant Soulgrinder:

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Daemonettes:


I'm  doing these to spruce up the rank and file daemonettes with some variety.  These are all based off casts of a daemonette model that I reposed and re-sculpted to be similar to the old daemonette models.


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The model on the far left that groping one breast and holding a bolt pistol? She's my future counts as Changeling model.   ~8)  She
'll be getting a Commisar's cap and jacket eventually.


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Notice the daemonette with single wing?  She's inspired by Sephiroth,  I figure she's a demoted Fury, that pissed off her KOS resulting in a ruined wing.


My current Display Case:

I have officially run out of space for this army.   :*)  So, I'm going to Ikea to pick up another one. :D 

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Oh and I'm now caught up on work and all my commission... So I pledge to actually paint something this weekend!

More Later!

Lastly some asked for a army group shot.  I promise I'll get that up tomorrow as I want to clean my display case.  Everyone that stops by the house gawks at it and then puts their grubby little hands on the glass .   :nono:
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: tryanotherone - smurfernating on November 6, 2009, 10:24:52 AM
Just one word:

Incredible !

That is probably the best demon army I have seen so far.

Have you already decided on a paint scheme?
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: SMVaughn on November 6, 2009, 11:43:59 AM
Wow. Wow. WOW!

Nice.

Look forward to more progress.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on November 6, 2009, 01:09:19 PM
Just one word:

Incredible !

That is probably the best demon army I have seen so far.

Have you already decided on a paint scheme?


Hey thanks!

So far as color scheme goes I have some ideas but nothing really concrete yet.  Although I'm tinking Black wings, and a cool blue-ish color pallette.

I'm open to suggestions though as I'll be doing a number of test color schemes.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: chokoman on November 6, 2009, 01:17:39 PM
I love your work Sersi!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rakuall on November 6, 2009, 11:47:01 PM
Those are actually offensive to my mind, I love them. Excellent job, a beutiful set of models, much nicer than some of GWs

(P.S. offensive in the best possible way, as only slaaneshi daemons could be)
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on November 8, 2009, 03:54:12 PM


Okay, so I'm trying to get the pregger's done tonight, and needed to get the legs for the throne done.  I was going to go with mechanical looking  styrene legs...until I realized that the legs on the other grinder were just the right size.

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Sometimes in the course of making something cool, sacrifices must be made...  So, reluctantly took out my dremel and chopped my six-legged grinder up for spare parts.   :'(   

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Now, don't feel to bad as she just wasn't working out: to symmetrical, to static, to boring, not sexy enough.  Exhibit A:

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Anyway here's the idea I'm going with now:

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I'm thinking of making the chain legs mechanical, say like hedonism bot from Futurama.  Someone suggested it before, but I don't recall who.  Comments and suggestions are as always welcome. 


More Today!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rudkin on November 8, 2009, 06:19:00 PM
Hm. I'm not sure what to think of those more organic legs. There is a certain creepiness to having a pseudo-biological chair, but I'm not sure I like it.

Could we see a picture with the more mechanical legs in position for comparison? As it is, the biological legs seem to crowd the model, and it distracts and detracts from the maiden herself. Now, that might just be the nature of having six legs that look large enough to support her, but I'm still not certain.

One final query for now: what kind of detail will you be adding to the rearmost part of the chair (behind the 'headrest' and bar)? It's a large flat area that looks like it is asking for something to be added. Perhaps a Slaanesh symbol cut out of it (tricky to do, and prone to breaking, so maybe not the best choice...)?

~~~~~
As for the legs of the Spider-Grinder, you had made a mould for them, right? So if you really wanted you could just make more, no?

And as a side point, when you get some of these other projects closer to completion, I suggest you go back to that; it is a very good design, you just need to play with it a bit more. It looks like the major problem was that you were sticking the hip-connections of the legs too close together; if you spread them out so that the rear legs were closer to the abdomen (thus extending the thorax and making it less circular-looking).

Well, keep up the good work! It does not cease to impress!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on November 9, 2009, 04:00:58 PM
Hi Rudkin!

Its been a while.  :D

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Hm. I'm not sure what to think of those more organic legs. There is a certain creepiness to having a pseudo-biological chair, but I'm not sure I like it.
I'm in the same boat really.  I suppose that could make the legs look more cyborgnetic, adding hose and pitons etc.  A metallic paint job rather than a more organic paint job might help.

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Could we see a picture with the more mechanical legs in position for comparison? As it is, the biological legs seem to crowd the model, and it distracts and detracts from the maiden herself. Now, that might just be the nature of having six legs that look large enough to support her, but I'm still not certain.
I honestly get very far with the mechanical legs, but I'll see about getting a mockup picture of what I originally had in mind.  Your right though, the legs do need to be either prominent on very small, to look right.

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One final query for now: what kind of detail will you be adding to the rearmost part of the chair (behind the 'headrest' and bar)? It's a large flat area that looks like it is asking for something to be added. Perhaps a Slaanesh symbol cut out of it (tricky to do, and prone to breaking, so maybe not the best choice...)?

That's not a bad idea, I was originaly going to cut Eldar-ish spokes into the backrest.  But a Slanesh symbol might work better.  It shouldn't be to hard to do either, thats what power tools are for.  :)


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As for the legs of the Spider-Grinder, you had made a mould for them, right? So if you really wanted you could just make more, no?

And as a side point, when you get some of these other projects closer to completion, I suggest you go back to that; it is a very good design, you just need to play with it a bit more. It looks like the major problem was that you were sticking the hip-connections of the legs too close together; if you spread them out so that the rear legs were closer to the abdomen (thus extending the thorax and making it less circular-looking).

Yes, I did keep the mold for the leg.  I think you right regarding the hip location, I arranged the legs in a very circular fashion.  I will re-visit the design when I finish the Pregnant Grinder.

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Well, keep up the good work! It does not cease to impress!

Thank you.  Your opinion is one that I value greatly.  Your critiques are always deadon and aristically sound.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on November 9, 2009, 04:02:11 PM
Oh yeah I nearly forgot.  Someone asked for pics of the entire army.  So here ya go:


(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.dakkadakka.com%2Fgallery%2F2009%2F11%2F9%2F63307_md-.JPG&hash=fb9f7d7a0cf7ba9d6803202cd92b78d5f3257600)

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(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.dakkadakka.com%2Fgallery%2F2009%2F11%2F9%2F63311_md-.JPG&hash=bc33488b038407d65c9efe8c35d13ea8b6a59a18)


Whoops! looks like I resized these by mistake.  I'll but up some large pics later.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: tryanotherone - smurfernating on November 9, 2009, 05:56:15 PM
How many points is that?
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: augustmanifesto on November 9, 2009, 06:32:17 PM
concerning the size of the legs, whether they are biological or mechanical (The later seems more appropriate to me, although the former would be rather unique) I think they ought to be much larger relative to the body than they currently are, the proportions seems off.

but, as always, great work! 
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on November 9, 2009, 07:30:53 PM
Here's the point breakdown for the army:


Headquarters/      Points/      Counts as:

2x Keepers of Secrets #1 (FW)    245 /        na
2x Keepers of Secrets #             300 /       Skarbrand

Elites/         Points/      Counts as:

6x Gluttons =       265 /      Bloodcrushers (icon)
6x Gluttons =       265 /       Bloodcrushers (icon)
6x Pleasureseekers =    190 /        Fiends
6x Pleasureseekers =    190 /       Fiends
6x Wyrms =      210 /       Flamers

Troops/         Points/      Counts as:

12x Slayers =      192 /       Bloodletters
12x Gorgons =       234 /        Horrors (Changling + icon)
6x Tormentors =      115 /       Plagebearers (icon)
6x Tormentors =      115 /       Plagebearers (icon)
72x Daemonettes =       1008 /       na

Fast Attack/      Points/                   Counts as:

36x Seekers =      612 /      na
12x Furies =       180 /      na
 
Heavy Support/      Points/      Counts as:

3x Daemon Princesess =    675 /        (Situation Dependent)
3x Soul Grinders =      405 /       na   

Total:         ~5,200
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on November 9, 2009, 07:36:12 PM
concerning the size of the legs, whether they are biological or mechanical (The later seems more appropriate to me, although the former would be rather unique) I think they ought to be much larger relative to the body than they currently are, the proportions seems off.

but, as always, great work!

I'll have to re-look at that, I've been told that their to small as well.  By bigger do you mean thicker, longer or both? 

I do have the larger spider legs but, I was concerned about the models footprint.  Soulgrinders are had enough to deepstrike already without making it harder.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rakuall on November 9, 2009, 08:45:28 PM
Total:         ~5,200

In the name of the emperor, that's a lot of chaos. how long did it take to accumulate it all, and what did it cost, if you don't mind me asking. I'm interested because, well... "5200," 'nuff said.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: augustmanifesto on November 10, 2009, 03:28:07 AM
longer. I would take a look at the the stock soul grinder for a sense of proportions. that said, I think at this point it is impossible for this project to turn out anything less than awesome - regardless of what you do with the legs.

You could even consider using the regular soul grinder legs, although I'm sure you want to build everything from scratch ;)
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on March 23, 2010, 11:19:43 AM
I'm back!!! :D

Well, my forced..er..um. voluntary overtime finally over and I can finally get back to doing some fun stuff.

Daemon Princesses:

I re-sculpting heads and some details on these.  The goal being to have one done and molded and cast for sale by this weekend.  Here's some progress:

(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.dakkadakka.com%2Fgallery%2F2010%2F3%2F23%2F92241_sm-.JPG&hash=5bd4de6337575bf77c73e639bf517a826ea7a617) (http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/92241-.html)

I'm giving her an open mouth, and re-sculpting the features, especially the eyes; which were quite poor.

(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.dakkadakka.com%2Fgallery%2F2010%2F3%2F23%2F92247_sm-.JPG&hash=0cb5564d93bece81d8c99b2283fd758e3a731d45) (http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/92247-.html)

(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.dakkadakka.com%2Fgallery%2F2010%2F3%2F23%2F92248_sm-.JPG&hash=b947774f6400adbcbef3a2930f86534a59c434bd) (http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/92248-.html)


Color Scheme:


Oh and I tested out a color scheme...and not there not done but here a peak.

(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.dakkadakka.com%2Fgallery%2F2010%2F3%2F23%2F92243_sm-.JPG&hash=7502e418fac90a1445c7a3026bc9a0bb5ca7b3e7) (http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/92243-.html)


I Also started back working on some true scaled Emperors Children:


(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.dakkadakka.com%2Fgallery%2F2010%2F3%2F23%2F92242_sm-.JPG&hash=fdde08e136eea77d6097eb8df2af1fad4f19e57c) (http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/92242-.html)



More pic to night.  I plan on documenting the entire molding process.  I'm using a new crystal clear silicon rubber and have some tips on how to use it on miniatures.




Later!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: glock_22 on March 23, 2010, 12:26:28 PM
Glad to see you're back on the project.  Looking forward to more!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Robin de Tolens on March 25, 2010, 03:26:02 AM
Awesome work ƔƔ I can't wait to see them painted!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: gregor_xenos on March 25, 2010, 11:26:27 PM
VERY AWSOME indeed!!!

Nice work!  You should seriously use these figs to boost your comissions and just quit your job!  lol
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on March 26, 2010, 10:40:17 AM

More updates! ;D

Daemon Princess #1:

Wings:

- I took a dremel and files to these to remove some how shall we save...less than perfect detailing.  Something like a 2/3 of the feather details will be re-sculpted.

(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.dakkadakka.com%2Fgallery%2F2010%2F3%2F26%2F92956_sm-.JPG&hash=ec9af8a322ef16de1f55273bb734668223f8c400) (http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/92956-.html)

(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.dakkadakka.com%2Fgallery%2F2010%2F3%2F26%2F92954_sm-.JPG&hash=99b6fd1aa15ea0cd9961b69a3319640b1a5a96de) (http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/92954-.html)



The head:

Admittedly, she's looking a bit rough at the moment.  But I'm going back to establish the bony anatomy first.

(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.dakkadakka.com%2Fgallery%2F2010%2F3%2F26%2F92948_sm-.JPG&hash=7fa6b8fc7d0e2a55607553ea8878913e8b64c191) (http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/92948-.html)

(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.dakkadakka.com%2Fgallery%2F2010%2F3%2F26%2F92951_sm-.JPG&hash=1608ff33ba616285c18bc7ff5d6af65f283d9642) (http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/92951-.html)

(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.dakkadakka.com%2Fgallery%2F2010%2F3%2F26%2F92949_sm-.JPG&hash=ca5516e6bd7eddbffafb3c1cc7ca91ef0233bcd6) (http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/92949-.html)


- She won't look nearly as happy or fugly when done...I hope...



More Later!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: wren on March 27, 2010, 09:39:17 AM
Wow, you're really giving me the itch to go back and try some scratch building!
those wings are particularly nice.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Artcore on March 27, 2010, 01:24:36 PM
Really nice modeling! Wow, this is some nice stuff!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rudkin on March 27, 2010, 04:10:53 PM
Nice to see you back at it, Sersi!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
That pink will look very bright once you have everything painted! Will everything be the same colour, or are you planning to have some variation (some purples, perhaps)?

Also, how are you planning to base the army?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Your wings look very nice. They reminded me of a tutorial on how to draw wings (http://sheil.deviantart.com/art/Wing-Drawing-Tutorial-13825957) that I stumbled across a while ago. It looks like you got it pretty well bang on! The shorter feathers you sculpted look better than the really long ones (I especially like the slightly rough, uneven/unkempt look of the short feathers), but I don't think I would change any of them.

Was the top edge of the wing finished? It looks like it could maybe use a bit of extra attention to better blend it in with the feathers below it. That, however, is a minor criticism. The wings still look very nice.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As always, I'm impressed with your work. I look forward to seeing more.  :)
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: CrownAxe on March 28, 2010, 05:54:38 AM
Great to see you back at it. I was thinking about this project the other day
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on March 30, 2010, 10:38:34 PM
Okay I got some work done...I was lazy for a few days, its been like 6 months since I worked less than 80 hours a week...ugh!
 
So anyway stuff!
 
Soulgrinder:

First the Throne:

I'm still working on this. I'll post up some concept sketches tonight, to show my thinking on this. Yes, those are what you think they are. Fear not...they're will be removable loincloths and chains to cover said naughty bits. Plus on the table top you can't see them without looking real close.


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Occupant:

I'm for the most part done with the Pregger. I do need to finish a few things:

1. The belly gun needs something. Perhaps a belly ring or other peircing? Should the barrell be most Eldar like? Ideas would be helpful.

2. I'm pretty proud with how the hand have turned out, they're pretty expressive now, and scaled correctly....yeah!

3. I still don't know what to do with the head though. I'm been thinking of some sort of crown. Again, please help!


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Together:


Here is the thing assembled for the most part. The foot print is avtually slightly smaller that the GW model.

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Moving on...
 

Daemon Princess #1:


Head:

I'm still working on this. I need to finish the teeth detailing and tounge, before adding the lips and filling out the cheeks. Then on to the smoothing and blending the features together and finally carving in micro-detail like: eye lids, nostrils, etc. Hopefully this will be done tonight.


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Body:


Her body and wings are done except for the following:

1. I still need to carve in some daemonic script on the arm and leg bands. I'm not sure if the leg armor needs any aditional detailing. May be a raised outer edge or something. Ideas would definitely be appreciated here.

2. I have to fill in the slanneshi symbols on the leg etc.

3. Drill out the cut point and re-sculpt the transitions to hide where the parts will be glued back together.

4. Sanding and polishing the model to get that daemonic flesh silky smooth. ;) This will probably be the most time consuming and least fun part.


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More Later!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on April 8, 2010, 11:04:41 PM
Bah....a few more revisions to the face:


I thinned down the nose, reduced the jaw, and plumped up the lips.



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I want to make her a bit cuter.  So I'll probably reduce the high check bones.  Also I want fill the hollows of the cheeks, foe a more rounded look.  The goal being to make her less masculine looking. 



Anyway, I need some input from you guys cause I've been looking at this so long I starting to go blind to the flaws.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rudkin on April 9, 2010, 12:21:32 AM
My first reactions:

- The upper lip needs some filling out. Nothing extreme, but with the lower lip that large it looks a bit odd.

- The 'fangs' help with the daemon look, but not really the 'cute' look you mention. That said, don't rip the face apart because of it.

- The eyes... this is the other spot that seems to take away from the 'cute' look the most. The inside of the eyebrows (that is, the part closest to the nose) might be 'cuter' if it were more rounded. The eyes might seem a bit larger as a result, which could make it look more youthful. Maybe. If the upper eye was more like this: ( instead of like this: < it might do the trick.

- Rounding out the cheeks a little will help a lot, I think. Don't go overboard and turn her into a chipmunk, though!

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One final comment: I'm not sure how even the ears are. I didn't notice it right away, but her right ear looks a bit more 'closed' than her left. I don't know if it was intentional. Either way, it's not a big deal.

I hope I was of some use.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on April 9, 2010, 11:19:17 AM
Thanks Guys!  I'll be making some changes to the head today. I got lots of great feedback.


I've started setting the parts up for molding:

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I do need correct the lean on the body; but other than that I sectioned her up in the most efficient way.  That is the way that with use the least silicon rubber.


Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Mr.Peanut (Turtleproof) on April 9, 2010, 02:20:53 PM
Small wonder that this has taken over a year to make, this model is beyond, so is the daemon prince.  The chest on the DP is too artificial looking, unless that's the intent.  The Defiler has a less globular look, yet it's actually more appropriate for the artificial hull to have a stylized, geometric shape to the breasts (refer to ancient fertility sculptures, various idols).
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on April 10, 2010, 06:58:59 PM
Thanks for the input guys I have made some changes:

- re-sculpted the chin and jaw.
- reduce the nose and gave it a slight upward turn
- filled out the hollows of the cheeks.
- rounded out the furrows on the brow.



The sum of the above changes resulting is this thing here...enjoy!



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Things to do:


The lower lip still bothers me; as do the corners of the mouth at present.  Well anyway back to work.




More Later!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Tethesis on April 10, 2010, 10:13:29 PM
As good as it looks, it doesn't look very sexy, I'd shorten the jaw a bit, remove most of the lower lip, and also remove as much of the nostrils as possible.

Kinda like this:
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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rudkin on April 10, 2010, 10:39:19 PM
The problem I am having with the mouth is threefold:

The left side of her mouth (her left) is noticably lower than the right. I am somewhat reminded of former Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien (http://animehistory.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/chretien-final.jpg) (whose face was partially paralyzed). Evening that out will help significantly.

The corners of her mouth should probably come to a point ( < ) rather than a square ( [ ) shape. it looks like that will entail raising the edge of the lower lip. I would not be concerned if she ends up with a bit of a smile; it would give her a devious (or eerily playful) sort of character.

If the lower lip is reduced a bit it may also help to even out the top and bottom lips (as it is now the top lip appears nonexistent next to the very large lower lip).
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on April 14, 2010, 08:48:28 AM
Okay, one more time...


Changes:

- corrected the corners of the mouth.
- cut off and re-sculpted the ears in the correct place.  Yeah there still rough at this point.
- thinned the nostrils down.
- shaved down the chin even more...
- Softened the brow.

The mouth is not opened as wide now, but the head also looks less stretched out than before. It still needs a little sanding and tweaking.  So what do you think?


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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Tethesis on April 14, 2010, 11:46:13 AM
Looks better, but the cheekbones and mouth still remind me of a plastic surgery gone wrong :(.

I think the problem is that the top half of the head looks too small in relation to the lower half of the head, making it all look unusually larger. Maybe if you try making the eye areas a bit larger, make the eye slots a bit more stretched (just a bit) and emphasize the temples and end of the brows a bit.

Looks complicated, good luck =)
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Artcore on April 14, 2010, 11:51:38 AM
I was wondering: are these beautiful models gonna be painted?
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: High Grandmaster smithmyster666 of the Grey Knights on April 14, 2010, 02:04:33 PM
i understand that feminate faces are the hardest ones to sculpt but i think this looks too animalistic, looks like a cat more than a person to me
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: PIN_H34D on April 15, 2010, 05:40:09 PM
omg, how do you people do this, i wish i was skilled enough to do that, did you say you where making casts of them the Damonettes and princess and well, pretty much all of them
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on April 16, 2010, 09:43:41 PM
First off I want to thank everyone who offered me critiques and advice as I worked through the Daemon Princesses final head.  It really helped!


Okay stuff!



Daemon Princess:
 
Well, here is the final version of this head. I'd say its a great improvement over the earlier versions. Since, here posed body is already boxed up for casting. I used a body that cast to practice painting on. So, at least she's no longer a floating head.
Once I've cast it this weekend, I'll be clipping the hair off and sculpting a new tentacle version. I plan on sculpting it tentacles straight, so they can be immerse in warm water and posed any way you want later.
 

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Soul Grinder:

 
I've made quite a bit of progress on the Soul Grinder, but I still need to process all the progress shots. Anyway here's teaser.

 
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Lacking inspiration on how to finish the Farseers head I turned to "Liber Chaotica". There I found this version of a Keeper of Secrets head. With the cone-head and jewels is looks quite Eldar-ish. So, I'm going with a version of this for the head.

 
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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Baron de Pencier on April 17, 2010, 11:46:39 PM
This may be the first Konversion work I've ever seen that could induce psychological damage in your opponent.

That Soul Grinder is just... Freudian. *Creeped out beyond belief*
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Kuma on April 17, 2010, 11:52:10 PM
How did you make these designs?
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on April 19, 2010, 01:57:59 AM
Okay, started on the Soul Grinder's final head.  Its still very early in the re-sculpting process.   The Liber Chaotic head is really working form me.  Its eldar-esque, which fits the fluff.  It's got a crown of six horns, that I like and which allow me to incorporate Slaanesh's sacred number into the model again.


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Oh, by the way the pencil lines on her sides mark where I'll be gouging in cuts from her hands clawing her belly.  I still may add some raised veins ti the belly.  We'll see...


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Admittedly, this is not the most forgiving angle, but I think the heads coming along nicely.

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Looking at this picture makes me wonder if mechanical legs could work using just this part of the sculpture.

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What say you all?


More Later
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on April 19, 2010, 08:01:54 AM
Looking at her now the eyes are a bit to large, but that's easily fixed.   I may open the eyes, at least partially.  Or scrunch closed really tight as if she's in great pain.  I'll look for some reference and do some sketches.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on April 24, 2010, 01:08:40 PM
Hiya!


So, I've been working on the Soulgrinder.  I settled on a combination of things:


1. Farseer helmet - this is without the most iconic element of the Farseer imagery I've studied.  So, this had to be incorporated some how.  So, I've opted for a helmet with a shattered and cracked face plate that will partially reveal the eldar's face.

2. Horns - Horns are fundamental to Chaos in general and Slaanesh in particular.  So 6 horns will be punch through holes in the sides if the helmet, similar to Chaos Possessed.  I also mimics the stylized crest on the Farseer Helmets.

3.  Soul Stones - Since I envision this as a primarily psychic weapon.  The entire throne will be encrusted with captured Eldar Soul Stones, used to amplify the Farseer's powers.

4.  The throne and with walker legs I now envision as a corrupted wraith-bone construct.  Similar to something like the Wraithlord.  I may have to rethink the working of the knee joints and do a bit of re-sculpting.  But it should be simple to do.


Got all that?  Really?  Okay. 


So, Pics:



Head Details:


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Claw Marks:


Its kind of hard to see with everything being grey, but the claw marks are pretty deep, with torn flesh built up where they stop.  It's a bit of subtle detailing but it whould really standout when painted.  The reason the hands don't look like the match up with the claw marks because they're no longer glued in place...in case your wondering.


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Full Body:

Lastly here are a few full body pics of the Farseer.  I added shackles to the praying hands as added to the pleading aspect of the model.  Is she praying to Slaanesh? Begging for Death?, of Calling on the Eldar gods for salvation? Cursing them?  Who can say...she's probably done all of the above over the course of her millennium long imprisonment.


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Sorry, I had to upload some pictures to DakkaDakka to get around Photobucket's Censors.   Okay, tiny grey nipples are bad...unless their shadowed?  They only blocked some pics...weird.   :bleep:
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rudkin on April 24, 2010, 07:52:47 PM
You seem to be matching up with your concept well. I will admit that I am not really a fan of the helmet and horns (I kinda liked the bald look, actually), but you are nevertheless doing a good job with it, so I can't fault you there. That's just a difference of personal preference, and since it's your model you should keep doing your thing!  :)

The claw marks look great! The side shot really shows them off well. I wasn't too sure how it would work out, but that's very nicely done; it makes for a very cool, subtle detail.

Will the praying-arm shackles be attached to each other, or to anything at all? I would think chaining the hands together would be a good way of doing it, since there really isn't anything else to connect to where they are. So how long a chain do you plan to have between them?

A short chain would keep it out of the way, but too short and it might seem strange (or fitting; forcing her hands into a praying position?).

A longer would allow the chain to hang lower, which might look good. The concern is that if it is too long it could clutter up the model. I wouldn't have it hanging much lower than halfway up her forearms.

The other thought would be to have a broken chain. I'm not sure if I like that idea or not. On the one hand, it would tie in with her resisting (a bit like the claw marks), but on the other it might provide too much... hope? for her. That and it might be taking away from the perfection that would be demanded of her by Slaanesh. Just some thoughts.

Oh! And the soul stone on the chest is nice. Are you planning to have a border around it (some sort of metal frame... or maybe her flesh grown up around it?), or will you be leaving it as is?
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on April 24, 2010, 09:04:25 PM
Rudkin:

Hey, thanks for the input.  You always make such detailed observations.  Critiques are often vague and hard to use to make improvements.  But yours are just great, they always get me thinking.

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You seem to be matching up with your concept well. I will admit that I am not really a fan of the helmet and horns (I kinda liked the bald look, actually), but you are nevertheless doing a good job with it, so I can't fault you there. That's just a difference of personal preference, and since it's your model you should keep doing your thing!  :)

I was rather fond of the bald head as well, but it looked so unfinished.  Having decided that it was to be a captured Farseer, the head really had to change.  However, given the wonders of resin casting I did mold the original head.  So, a head swap is still a possibility.

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The claw marks look great! The side shot really shows them off well. I wasn't too sure how it would work out, but that's very nicely done; it makes for a very cool, subtle detail.

Thanks! It one of those details I'd been planning from the start but kept waffling on weather to do them or not.  There are also claw marks on the lower abdomen for the hand cradling the gun barrel as well. 

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Will the praying-arm shackles be attached to each other, or to anything at all? I would think chaining the hands together would be a good way of doing it, since there really isn't anything else to connect to where they are. So how long a chain do you plan to have between them?

I planned on binding the praying hands together with modeling chain, the legs and two supporting hands will be chained as well.

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A short chain would keep it out of the way, but too short and it might seem strange (or fitting; forcing her hands into a praying position?).

I think the shorter chain would be best.  Mostly, because unless its glued to the model or some how made immobile it could rub of the paint during transport. 

A longer would allow the chain to hang lower, which might look good. The concern is that if it is too long it could clutter up the model. I wouldn't have it hanging much lower than halfway up her forearms.

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The other thought would be to have a broken chain. I'm not sure if I like that idea or not. On the one hand, it would tie in with her resisting (a bit like the claw marks), but on the other it might provide too much... hope? for her. That and it might be taking away from the perfection that would be demanded of her by Slaanesh. Just some thoughts.

That really does work on several levels.  Is she a resisting victim, a willing convert, or has her spirit already been crushed.  I'm thinking intact chain as it does look better aesthetically.

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! And the soul stone on the chest is nice. Are you planning to have a border around it (some sort of metal frame... or maybe her flesh grown up around it?), or will you be leaving it as is?

I want to have several smaller soul stones incorporated into the models throne-construct, and throughout the army: daemonettes clutching stolen soul stones, etc.  For the chest mounted stone I imagine the flesh has grown around it.  It will be getting more detailing.  I thought about having Eldar/Slanneshi runes either carved or branded into the flesh.


Basing:

I've been pondering long and hard on how to do the basing, and now I think I've found the solution.  Dragonforge, just came out with as whole line of Eldar-sh bases that to draw inspiration from. http://www.dragonforge.com/Painting%20service/for%20sale/base_sets/sci-fi/Lost%20Empires%20Series.htm (http://www.dragonforge.com/Painting%20service/for%20sale/base_sets/sci-fi/Lost%20Empires%20Series.htm)

I would just buy these but it be to easy, and with so many models there'd be just to much duplication.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: High Grandmaster smithmyster666 of the Grey Knights on April 25, 2010, 01:54:50 PM
it looks amazing, and actually looks like its giving birth, which i think is definately difficult to put across, good work
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on April 29, 2010, 07:19:40 AM
Okay, as usual I'm running late....  Anyway more pics!


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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on May 4, 2010, 11:35:06 AM
...And she's Done!



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I have more close up pics but, I'll post those later.  Enjoy!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Artcore on May 4, 2010, 12:09:01 PM
Very nice result Sersi! It's a really sick model... in a good way. Slaanesh will be pleased by your work :)

I think I liked the bald head better but if this reflects the idea you had in mind; good work.

Are you going to paint it or do you commission someone to do it for you? This model deserves a very good paint job.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: KBelleau on May 16, 2010, 07:30:49 AM
Simply Awesome! wonderfully perverse.... would like to see it fully painted.  :)
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on May 16, 2010, 08:59:30 PM
So, I got the molds for the princess poured,  here are some pictures.  I'm using a transparent silicon rubber called "Sort-a-Clear" by Smooth-on; that makes it super easy to cut open the molds without costly errors.  The trick with clear silicon is that your mold box must be absolutely smooth to achieve maximum clarity.  Any grain refracts the light penetrating the block and you won't be able to see through it.  I use homemade foam core box, with the inside lined with clear packing tape.  It works a treat. 


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I'll get the molds cut tonight, and should have the first assembled cast posted up before morning.



More Later!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on May 19, 2010, 11:00:50 AM
Well I've had some issues....



I did not properly vent the mold here and the air pressure prevented if from being filled....damn!


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On the head I got an air bubble at the chin....damn!


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I'm working to fix this now.....




But.... the  other parts came out beautifully: 


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Sheeh...even the loincloth came out nice....





Anyway I'm trying a new test after boring new air vents.   Details tonight!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: moc065 on May 19, 2010, 01:47:46 PM
You can still drill small vent holes in the appropriate places so I think your really onto a great figure here..... I also like the Clear Mold, mine are all non-see-through and it can be a serious issue to do cuts or drill out that vent hole in just the right place....

I think I might take your idea as an inspiration for my next mold project...

Your scupts are excellent (BTW) and I would love to see some of them when they are painted and complete (that Soulgrinder looks amazing, paint would only make it better)

Cheers
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on May 20, 2010, 02:42:11 AM
Well, now... Its hard to believe that I started this model way back in April of 2009.


I re-vented the molds and cave it the old college try...


This ones a mixture of components from to different pours, hence the color variation.  You'll also notice a few holes caused by air bubbles.   Anyway, she a composed of 8 socketed components, no pinning required.  I working on a new tentacle head.  The tentacles will be cast straight but with a quick dunk in hot water, they can be posed how every you like.



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In Progress:


1.  Detailing the Soulgrinder's throne, with lounging daemonettes.

2.  Working on the Changling stand-in model.

3.  Six converted Fiends of Slaanesh; with just six larger breasts....yeah!

4.  Started hacking apart the other to daemon princesses, to clean the up for casting.

5.  reworking some details on the male KOS.







More later!




Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Artcore on May 22, 2010, 07:32:11 AM
It looks really really good!

Have a lot of people allready asked you to cast one for them too?

My only suggestion would be to re-pose the head; somehow this pose looks a bit silly.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Random Guardsman on May 22, 2010, 09:42:50 AM
Simply fantastic models! Can't wait to see the soul grinder finished!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on May 30, 2010, 08:23:21 PM
Okay, Daemon Princess #1 is up on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/4-5-Female-Demon-Lord-Demoness-Succubus-Miniature-/160439834011?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255af5959b#ht_500wt_1154 (http://cgi.ebay.com/4-5-Female-Demon-Lord-Demoness-Succubus-Miniature-/160439834011?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255af5959b#ht_500wt_1154)
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Host of the Tumultuous Storm on May 30, 2010, 08:56:05 PM
Looking again at the Soulgrinder model, i have one qualm about the chains.

Would her captor have different chain lengths for different arms? because her top pair (ones supporting her) are much farther apart then any of the others, and if you're going with short chains for all the others, it'll look weird when one set of arms has a longer chain

just a tiny detail there, but it would bother me =P
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Farseer ToFU on May 30, 2010, 09:18:34 PM
Just a quick tip on venting the molds:

A piece of brass or stainless steel tubing with a sharp edge filed in one end works for punching vents. I have seen them with flat or angled ends with a bevel on the inside or outside so exact design is not critical, personal preference is flat end inside bevel. can also be used as a chisel to cut sprue and vents in single pour molds like yours.

--
Lane
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on May 30, 2010, 11:55:21 PM
Looking again at the Soulgrinder model, i have one qualm about the chains.

Would her captor have different chain lengths for different arms? because her top pair (ones supporting her) are much farther apart then any of the others, and if you're going with short chains for all the others, it'll look weird when one set of arms has a longer chain

just a tiny detail there, but it would bother me =P


Wait...the chains are the weird part of that model?   :o   On a more serious note though, I think that if Slaanesh can grow a Farseer to enormous size and use her as a weapon.  I don't think that its to much of a stretch that the Dark Princess ordered a custom pain chair...
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on May 30, 2010, 11:57:14 PM

Oh yeah here some new stuffs!


Here's a new head design for ya:

Its kinda inspired by "Legend", but hey if you want a female Blood Thirster you could do that too.


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I haven't decided on how to resolve the hair yet.  Tentacles or pony tail.



Here's a quick preview of the tentacle head:


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Sorry, she's already setting in her mold.  Anyway, she has 18 individual head tentacles, that can be cut to the length you choose.  Immerse them in warm watter and pose them any way you like.   Once she's de-molded she'll be posted up hear as well.





Fiends:


This is just a simple sculpted conversion.  Never understood why Fiends have 10 rather than 6 breasts.  So, anyway I'm fixing that.  Its still in WIP, and yes I know the bottom pair is missing nipples.   :D


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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Host of the Tumultuous Storm on May 31, 2010, 12:27:08 AM
Sersi, i'm accepting the rest of the model as w/e, cause you like you're models, i like the models, and you do a good job while trying to stay as close to your own written fluff as possible.  I'm just pointing out, that slaanesh, being pitiful as all chaos gods are, and enslaving said farseer, wouldnt care to have her comfortable and would have all the chains the same size.

Perhaps, as a counter measure and to make the farseer tied more into the platform she's n, chain those hands to the back end of the walker she's is sitting on? gives it more of a captured fel, rather than just limbs chained together and sitting semi-precariously on a walking board in the middle of a battle?

Just my opinion  ;)
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Jehan-Reznor on June 4, 2010, 08:08:48 AM
it has been a while since i posted , great job sersi, i am looking forward to their completion, or send me a cast and i will pait it for ya  ;)

i am waiting for you to make a champion with a large penis with sharp implements on it ( like in seven). but that is just my sick mind again  ::)
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on June 16, 2010, 08:53:49 AM
Well here what I've been wasting time on for the last couple of days.  this is was to test out a few things.  The Daemon Princess #2's body is molded finally.  Also I was testing out a tentacle head concept, which while incomplete seems to be working...yeah!  And I had a plastic LOTR fell beast lying around, so I looked at the wing and said...hmmm...just about the right size.  Here's the result.



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I don't plan on using the dragon wings in this army mind you...I like the feathered wings better.  The juxtaposition of soft downy feathers and hard scaly crab claws is such a nice contrast.

Anyway, everything else is still in progress...updates to follow!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: tryanotherone - smurfernating on June 16, 2010, 04:32:03 PM
The demon princess looks very good.

I like the wings you used a lot. No needs for change here if you ask me.

However, there is one thing that should be re-designed, IMveryHO.

The head has an awkward angle. The DP is running forward but isn't looking in that direction. Instead it seems to look at its elbow. :-\
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Jehan-Reznor on June 17, 2010, 07:51:00 PM
The demon princess looks very good.

I like the wings you used a lot. No needs for change here if you ask me.

However, there is one thing that should be re-designed, IMveryHO.

The head has an awkward angle. The DP is running forward but isn't looking in that direction. Instead it seems to look at its elbow. :-\
i agree with tryanotherone, the head angle looks awkward, although you could put a sex implement on the base, maybe the demon is looking at that  ;)
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: neverXmore on June 19, 2010, 12:52:14 PM
Am I the only one who would feel really, really wierd playing against (or with!) these models? =S
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Baron de Pencier on June 21, 2010, 01:28:40 AM
Am I the only one who would feel really, really wierd playing against (or with!) these models? =S

Nope. This is the first Chaotic konversion I've ever seen that genuinely frightens me.

Dat Soul Grinder, oh gawd dat Soul Grinder.

Sersi, you are a mad genius.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on June 21, 2010, 11:04:31 PM

So here is the actual finished DP Mark 2:


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I'm making this one available as a kit, hears what you'll get:


The Kit:

She comes is 7 socketed parts: legs, torso, right arm w/ humanoid hand, left arm with crab claw, two wings. 

Heads:

They're 3 heads included: a horned head w/ hair, one with large horns & tentacle pony-tail, and a Diaz-style daemonette tentacle head w/ 18 full pose-able tentacles!  I will probably to at least two more head variants.

Weapons:

Their are 3 weapons: a spear, sword, and thorn whip.  Additional bits include: optional armor plates. a shoulder pad for the right arm, a full breast plate & back plate,  left and right spiked and jeweled armor breast cups (in case you only want cover one breast),  and a cloth-like bikini top.


I'll be posting up some additional pictures of the parts not shown above shortly, the kit will still be $50 and should be up on E-bay by Friday.  Incidentally, there is still 1 Mark 1 DP left here:  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160439834011&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_500wt_1154 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160439834011&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_500wt_1154)



PS: 

Everyone who already bought DP #1, will be all the extras sent to you for free!  That's right you will also be getting the alternate heads, armor, weapons, cloths, and two new arms with humanoid hands.  Just my way of saying thank you for your support.   :thumbsup:



Other things:


1.  DP Mark 3 is being worked on, and should be ready this week.
2.  The Soul Grinder is undergoing some extensive HR Giger inspired carving and detailing. 
3.  The large KOS is getting re-worked to bring out the musculature, and anatomy.
4.  My re-envisioned fiends are nearly done, save for the alternate heads.


...and work permitting I may even paint a squad of daemonettes...hah!



More Later!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Jehan-Reznor on June 23, 2010, 06:53:08 AM
The head is still at an awkward angle, at least it should look at the one the demon is attacking
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: burgers4me on June 23, 2010, 07:14:16 AM
Sir, Games Workshop could do with a man of your unique and amazing talents. I commend you.

It is a pitty I don't play Slaanesh, you have some beautiful models. Keep up the good work.

Burgers!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rudkin on June 24, 2010, 12:10:07 AM
That tentacled head works really well! I'm quite impressed. I am thinking that if I were assembling the kit I would probably re-work the neck so that she wouldn't be looking at the ground, but that is something that could probably be done "in post" (so to speak) by those who are putting your kit together. Alternatively, one could place the front foot raised up on a rock or something to angle things. It is just a bit of a shame that the face is so hidden the way she is.

But still, your work from start to finish has been outstanding, Sersi. My congratulations on a job very well done!  :D
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rakuall on June 24, 2010, 01:04:20 AM
Sir, Games Workshop could do with a man of your unique and amazing talents. I commend you.

Good Idea! Sersi, have you considered flaunting your abilities to GW? Copyright your design, and then show it off they may be interested (but probly not) in buying the copyright to make a plastic or metal kit. Or even hire you for regular commissions! It's not likely,  but you gotta dream and give it a shot.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on June 24, 2010, 11:06:13 AM
Hey, thanks for looking guys.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: moc065 on June 28, 2010, 07:52:57 AM
This is not the appropriate thread to post your sales.... that would be done in "The Trading Post" (http://www.40konline.com/index.php?board=14.0), so please remove your links and put them in the appropriate forum....

I love your work; but the sale of items is better done in "The Trading Post" (http://www.40konline.com/index.php?board=14.0).

Cheers
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on July 19, 2010, 11:32:47 AM
Okay I should have posted these up a while ago.  Anyway I apoligize for the quality of the pics, it was 2 am and I was a "little" drunk at the time.  :D


Pony Tail Head with flesh whip and studded pasty:


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Oh, and progress shots of my new fiend model:


Hopefully, she actually looks fast, unlike the current models.


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Anyway, I'm off to work.  More later!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: tryanotherone - smurfernating on July 19, 2010, 01:42:11 PM
Looks good to me.

I like the body. It's completely different to anything from GW (or any other range that I know of).

Keep on drinking. ;)
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Jehan-Reznor on July 20, 2010, 06:38:32 AM
nice figure, but give it/her a bra. The second row of breasts look kind of saggy . the fiend model looks awesome.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on July 27, 2010, 10:31:28 AM
At last the DP#3 is all cleaned up and nearly ready for casting:


Their are still a few minor details to clean up, such as the hand in contact with the ground, the alternate arms, and the choker collar.  I'm switching to a ball and socket joint for the neck/head connection point, thats similar to what the plastic daemonettes have.  While, not as anatomically correct it will allow the head to be posed more easily.  Or you could use magnets so that the head would be pose-able.


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Another turn-around with a different head:


Just showing off the body with an alternate head.



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And lastly a picture with the scabbard:


While working on the scabbard it occurred to me that unless the thing was much larger that the actual sword, you could never pull the sword out.  But that doesn't look nearly as cool, but she's a daemon, so maybe it phases through the scabbard or whatever... :P



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Anyway, I'm off to work.


More Later!

Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: tryanotherone - smurfernating on July 27, 2010, 05:15:51 PM
Looks really, really great.

Do you think you could get a good painter do a similar great paint job on your demons?

It would be a good idea to show them off with some paint on them, IMHO.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on August 16, 2010, 11:21:30 AM
Well She's done at last!  A year and a half from start to finish but the Daemon Princesses are finally done.


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Later!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Artcore on August 16, 2010, 03:17:41 PM
Congratulations on finishing them!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: higher class of criminal on August 16, 2010, 03:30:21 PM
not sure if its the angle of the pics but the sword in the demon princes seems like its bent a bit, otherwise they look fantastic.  can't wait to see them painted!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on August 16, 2010, 10:48:01 PM
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DP2:  "So how many Space Marines can fit in a Landraider?
DP1:  "Don't know, let's find out!"


 :D  Yes, I know i'm lame...  Anyway, here's some more pics and stuff.


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[size=24]DAEMON-ZILLA!!![/size]


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I've also managed to get them all re-molded, and consolidated the million of so molds I had lying around into a few compact sprues.  There also coming out pretty near flawless on the sprue.  I'll post up some pictures of the head, weapon, arms, and accessory sprues, but for now here are the bodies. 



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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rems on August 17, 2010, 01:48:49 AM
You've got some amazing work here Sir!

Did you say that your casting these, and creating sprues? I assume for selling?

When will the soulgrinder be done? Slaanesh demands progress  ;)
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Amaya on September 7, 2010, 12:20:19 AM
I like both of your recent designs, but they kind of remind me of Driders.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on December 2, 2010, 02:40:58 AM
Hmmm.... I may have changed my mind on the nurgling stand-ins.  I'd seen these before but, had only ever seen them in Wyrd's uber dark color scheme.


They need a theme though...  How about the being the spawn of daemonettes and human liaisons.   Murderous little human/daemon hybrids for the win.


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Advantages:

1. They look to be the right scale.
2.  They have magically floaty hair just like the current daemonettes.
3.  Their creepy little deamon babies...awesome!
4.  Just noticed that their anatomically correct.   :D


That said, I'm reasonable sure that I can sculpt some very similar minis in alternate poses, using the Wyrd models as reference.  I'll probably add a few to the Soulginder for the extra squick.



Anyway what do you think?  Do they fit?  Also if anyone have a good alternative please post them up.



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(not my painting by the way, this is just for reference, etc...)



Disadvantages:

1. Their metal.
2.  Their are only three poses (although that's still better than one)










Soulgrinder Concepts:


My new idea for the walker is that its constructed from: marble, precious metals, gemstones and silks.  Having lots of mechanical grubbins isn't really working for me'  Its not so elegant and a bit busy looking.  Giger-esque style machine/flesh is yet another option.

Any way here the concept.  Instead of having the occupant supported by a chair/throne thing.  I would have 3-5 reclining figures supporting the riders weight.  The figures would be very stylized golden statues representing the different aspects of Slaanesh.   



Here are some figure studies, daemonic of course.   :D   The would be arrange around the pregger and support her with either 1-2 of their hands.


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I kinda like how these turned out, I might clean them up and use them as either banner pics or "nose art" on some Emperor's children vehicles...


I threw this composite together to get an idea of the scaling.


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I still haven't be able to come up with a satisfying way to fuse the walker legs into throne/dais.  If anyone has a good idea on how to do it, please share.


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More, when I'm not dozing off at the keyboard....Later!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rudkin on December 2, 2010, 10:35:56 PM
It's been a while! Good to see you are still at it, Sersi.

Regarding the Nurglings:

Those are a lot like evil Cherubs. Perhaps if they were representative of some small sins or vices? Though this is not at all similar to the role of Cherubs, it seems fitting for them. I'm not sure what specific sin or vice it could be....

...hm... it seems like if they represented something that seems innocent enough, but can become dangerous when allowed to grow/become habit/etc. (i.e. one Nurgling is easy to handle, but 18 are dangerous). I'm at a loss for a good, specific vice, but that's what I think of when I see them, in a Slaaneshi context. Those small problems that snowball.

Regarding the Throne:

I'm not quite sure what exactly you're talking about here. Do you mean to replace the leggy platform that you've made with the statues, or would the statues rest on top of the leggy thing with the pregnant daemon on top of the statues?

Looking at it, it seems almost like you should just have the daemon sitting on a large pillow or cushion (which rests on the dias, which is supported by the organic legs). Kind of like a beanbag chair, but fancier. Imagine an ornate Victorian style beanbag chair, if that even makes sense. Or in the same general style as stereotypical harem's pile of pillows, but replaced with a single large one (though maybe several smaller ones would be easier to do? ...maybe not).

Having the pillow then overhang over the edge of the dias would not only look natural, but it would obscure the specific workings of the leggy throne (i.e. how it all -actually- fits together). At least from most angles. You could still have a corner or two of the dias poking out if you'd like.

Besides, what says "Slaanesh" more than a really really comfortable pillow? (That was a rhetorical question! Rhetorical, I say!)

The small statuettes are a cute idea, but I don't see a good way of making it all mesh with what you have for the Grinder already; it seems more like those statuettes would work better if you completely redesigned the seat/dias/whatever and legs around them. I would certainly like to see the statuettes integrated into something, but it just doesn't strike me as working for the Grinder.

Now, as the railing for a Herald's chariot on the other hand....
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on December 5, 2010, 04:56:20 PM

And back to this guy....


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I been working on him since this morning and he's coming along great.  I went to work on with with a dremel, a saws and a scalpel.  So he now sectioned up along muscle insertions.  I learned this new trick from these books:



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I ordered them off Amazon Japan and the are gold for anyone wanting to get into sculpting larger (6-24") figures for reproduction.  The are in Japanese which I'm learning and cannot read yet but contain hundreds of detailed step by step instructions.  Far better than most video I seen and I have many....  Get them here:

http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%81%8B%E3%82%8F%E3%81%84%E3%81%84%E5%A5%B3%E3%81%AE%E5%AD%90%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%82%AE%E3%83%A5%E3%82%A2%E3%82%92%E4%BD%9C%E3%82%8D%E3%81%86-%E5%8B%95%E3%81%8D%E3%81%AE%E3%81%82%E3%82%8B%E3%83%9D%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E7%B7%A8-%E5%8B%9D%E5%B6%8B-%E5%BA%B7%E4%B8%80/dp/4798024007/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%81%8B%E3%82%8F%E3%81%84%E3%81%84%E5%A5%B3%E3%81%AE%E5%AD%90%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%82%AE%E3%83%A5%E3%82%A2%E3%82%92%E4%BD%9C%E3%82%8D%E3%81%86-%E5%8B%95%E3%81%8D%E3%81%AE%E3%81%82%E3%82%8B%E3%83%9D%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E7%B7%A8-%E5%8B%9D%E5%B6%8B-%E5%BA%B7%E4%B8%80/dp/4798024007/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b)

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What so great about this type of setup?  Well the pieces that you'l need to mold are much smaller, allowing smaller and less complex molds.  Originally I thought I would need to create some outrageously complex plaster and silicon matrix molds.  Which honestly made me want to re-consider finishing this model.


For example:

Here's the torso sans the head. 


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Ordinarily you'd get a nasty seam line at the neck.  Instead I cut the break point along the natural seam created by the collar and scapula bones. 


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No need to pin it, a film of super-glue readily will hold it place.



Torso:


I cut the legs off in away that preserved as much anatomy as possible without obvious seams.  I also did quite abit of resculpting to correct the anatomy and proportions of the pectorals and shoulders.  Still aways to go on the shoulders and ribcage.



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Claw Arms:


I'm re-worked the joins for the claw arms into be ball and sockets for better pose-ability.  You could easily magnetize them for transport for instance or posing.


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Since were on the claw arms, those are getting additional details, such as spines and "teeth".  I'm shooting for somewhere between a the GW KOS and standard daemonettes in terms of detail.  Too much?


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The upper arms:


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Legs:


I'm in the process o detailing the legs and feet.  Again making them more like the feet of the daemonettes and seeker mounts in terms of design.  Just more robust and less delicate, given the KOS greater size and weight.   The feet and claw arms will also receive similar texture details. 


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The Sword:


I'm thinking its needing some additional detailing.  Maybe some screaming daemonette faces?

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The Head:


I chopped the horns off for easier casting and allow for more options.  The teeth and gums were removed for the dame reason.  The dome of the head has be reshaped as well.


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Having seen the new White Dwarf cover I might go with this head as an option:


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Partially Assembled:


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Disassembled:


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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: tryanotherone - smurfernating on December 6, 2010, 01:18:00 PM
From all minis that you made:

This one is my favorite although (and I hope you don't mind) there should be more details, i.e veins along the legs and army and ... teeth.  You have to sculpt more teeth into that snout.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on December 9, 2010, 11:05:56 AM
So, I've been working on the KOS and Soulgrinder tag-team style to get them done by Saturday.


Keeper of Secrets:


First, I've cleaned up the up the seems on the legs.  So, when glued together they'll be nearly visible.



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Progress on all fronts!  :D   The main claws are done, except for some smaller spike and texturing.  I'm working on the head now.


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Questions:


1.  I want to do at least one alternate head, what would be best: a Minator-style bovine head, or maybe a tentacle face?

2.  What else does he need? Piercings, spines? What?




Soulgrinder:


Change of planes, I'm now going with a suggestion from fellow Slaanesh cultist Rudkin from 40Konlinne.  We're going back to basic simple on the throne design.  Everything I'd come up with so far was overly complex and gaudy.  So I going with simple harem style pillows and hanging bolts of silk.  Simple, elegant, easy to sculpt... :D 

It's a cop out I know; but the cushions cover up the dias, hide the join between the fleshy legs and the throne, and gives me and excuse to add some little daemonettes lounging around on the platform.

Anyway I went back to super-sculpey for this, why waste Aves sculpt.  I'll be testing a new cyclonic oven that I bought to bake my clay sculpts.  More on that later...
 


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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rudkin on December 9, 2010, 10:55:15 PM
Looking good, as always! I'm glad my pillow suggestion worked out. Yes, it's a cop-out, but it works (and doesn't look out-of-place, either)! You did a good job with it, too; that's pretty much what I had in mind. I find it amusing that one of the images "violated [Photobucket's] terms of use"; too bad, though. It would have been good to see the model from the front.

Are the plugs in the Grinder's back for venting the moulds, or were you going to do something else with them? It looks almost like you had planned to have her plugged into the seat somehow, but with the cushions there now I don't see that happening. Still, if they're there for another reason leave them be. Otherwise, it may be good to remove them and smooth out her back.

Where will the other ends of the wrist chains be going? On the underside of the dias, or..? You don't have any rings for them yet, like you have for the wrist-end of the manacles. Don't forget them! I picture the rings attached to a small square of metal, which is in turn bolted to the dias. The rings are free to hang loose, dangling over the back of the dias (or, alternatively, with the square of metal attached to the underside of the dias with the rings dangling down). A bit like those rings you sometimes see on docks to tie boats up. (http://www.concierge.com/cntraveler/contests/?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=480346)

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One comment about the KOS; his right uppermost arm looks a bit wonky where you have the two pieces meet up. You have a very sharp sort of V groove where the upper arm and shoulder muscles meet which does not look natural. I'd recommend smoothing out that transition.

The along-the-muscle seams are looking snazzy; it's a good idea. I suspect it's probably a bit of a pain to cut the master pieces apart, but it looks like the work is worth it.

In answer to your questions:

1. The head you currently have is going to have horns, right? To match the image from the book which served as the inspiration for the model. With that being the case, having a tentacled head (maybe similar to the FW KOS, or the greater daemon on page 19 of the Daemons of Chaos army book) could be the way to go for an alternate head.

You could also look at some of the new Daemonette heads for inspiration; a mohawk or top knot, for instance, would be distinct (not sure how good it would look, but it's a thought). I'd aim for the horned head and the tentacled head as a starting point.

2. I'd take another look at the image that inspired you (page 17 of the Daemons of Chaos army book, right?). He's got that sort of ribbed effect on parts of his skin (see his knees in particular. Though the patten repeats throughout). He also has some veins sticking out on his forearms. Little details like that will really elevate the quality of your model, I think.

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Good luck with your deadline!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: tryanotherone - smurfernating on December 10, 2010, 01:59:25 PM
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2.  What else does he need? Piercings, spines? What?

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there should be more details, i.e veins along the legs and army and ... teeth.  You have to sculpt more teeth into that snout.

... also the skin looks too smooth. Perhaps a little more texture, hmm ....

But that's just me.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Carni-Kang on December 11, 2010, 05:48:46 AM
I love how one of the images was removed for violating ToS. I assume that would be the front shot of the Preggrinder?

Love you work by the way, and I can't wait to see it painted!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on December 11, 2010, 08:08:16 PM
More progess!




Keeper Of Secrets:



Okay the legs/pelvic tie-in are done.  Moving on to getting the shoulder/arm tie-in to look good while hiding any obvious seams.

This turned out really nice, actually.  Even without glue or magnets the arm stays in place.  I still need to finish the opposite shoulder, and carve in the 3 heads of each deltoid muscle.


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I cut the fingers off and repositioned them to make the palms of the hands wider as well.

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In this picture you can see how the connection slides into place.  I should be really easy to magnetize or just glue together.

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I also finished the first layer of detailing on the claw arms.


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Looking at my reference I still have some work to do on the socket were the claw arms attach.


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Here's a better view of the socket.  Its got lots of contact surface inside, so pinning shouldn't be needed.   Gaahh.... I will be re-sculpting those serratus muscles as well...argh!




Right.  Moving on...




Soulgrinder:


I bought this table top oven a couple of months back to bake polymer clay miniatures and one off 12" sculpts.  But hadn't tried it out yet.  Let me tell you this thing it sweet!  Its got precise temperature control, and a built in timer.  But the best part is that you can see inside it while its running, and it cooks by swirling heated air around the sculpt.  Now I've baked lots of polymer clay in my time, but I've never had it cook hard without at least a little blackening and charing of the thinner parts.  That is until now.  Must experiment further....


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Oh, and as a bonus you can still cook a turkey in the thing...don't tell the wife.  :D


Here's the baked result:


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I also started to chop her up for final detailing and molding next week.


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That last picture right there even creeped me out.  She looks like she should be in a roasting pan or something.  Who wants a leg?  :D


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Moving on to other disturbing imagery....


Having some very scary searches on the interwebs...   :o   I've decided to go with a shackle bar of the the supporting arms, as it looks very stylized and extremely uncomfortable.  A nice contrast to those soft fluffy pillows.


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The legs will be shackled with a long chain that wraps around them, binding her so she can't move.


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Additional Thoughts:

Finally, I'm considering having some tiny daemonette tormentors ride along; with at least one holding a long chain collaring her throat.  I must sketch this idea.  Perhaps have one sitting on her shoulder, guardian angle style.  Another standing on the pillow whispering Slaanesh only knows what into the tormented Farseer's opposite ear.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: tryanotherone - smurfernating on December 12, 2010, 09:47:59 AM
Man, I had some doubt about the last mini but it turns out be absolutely stunning.

That is a very fine job you are doing.

Not sure if this was asked before but are you a professional sculpter?
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on December 15, 2010, 11:14:59 AM
Updates! 


I'll keep it short for now and then come back and comment later...TTFN!



Keeper of Secrets:


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Terror Tots:


Yes...these will do nicely.  Say what size is a nurgling base and how many minis to a base?



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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on December 16, 2010, 12:49:59 AM



Okay here's a minor update on the Grinder:


I went ahead and cut off the horns.


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I then went in an bored out new sockets for the horn to plug into.



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I also bored tunnel through the neck and out through the mouth.  This will prevent the sculpt from being locked into the mold, will help preserve the details.


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I then added a plug to the end of the neck.


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I made the plug slightly under sized, so that the head can be posed.



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Is she writhing in pain or esctacy?   Who can say with Slaanesh.




And some scale pictures:


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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Rudkin on December 17, 2010, 01:15:11 AM
3-4 Nurglings to a base. 40mm round (same as a Terminator).

Have you decided on a story behind the Tots, yet?

~~~~~~

Those are huge! I mean, I expected them to be large, but looking at them to scale... wow! The KOS is especially intimidating.

They look really great. It's been really interesting seeing the process, both the sculpting and the cutting-into-pieces for casting. Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on December 27, 2010, 02:29:07 AM
Wow... It been a while since I started this guy.  but he's sure come along way.






Lets take a stroll down memory lane:   :D


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And...Finally the completed Keeper of Secrets:





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And a couple of other pics:



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So this guy is done.  Please comment and let me know what you guy think.   I started on the box molds today, so I'll document the entire molding and casting process, soon.



More Later! 
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: tryanotherone - smurfernating on December 27, 2010, 03:26:15 PM
IMHO that is your best mini so far.

Very characterful and dynamic.

Excellent work.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Foose on January 7, 2011, 03:00:25 PM
I know that this is after the fact considering that the soul grinder is pretty much done, but I'll refer to the original drawing that was too organic. Did you consider having machine legs coming out of the "sharp teeth vagina" on the stomach? Kind of like she's giving birth to a normal soul grinder. This is more organic becoming machine than machine becoming organic like the fluff demands but it may be an interesting compromise.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on February 16, 2011, 10:22:56 AM
Done.



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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: BaconTaser on February 16, 2011, 05:53:01 PM
Wow I must say that is one amazing Keeper of Secrets!

A lot better than the current one, perhaps you could be it's next sculptor  8) .


Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: tryanotherone - smurfernating on February 17, 2011, 03:47:01 AM
Excellent work.

Best demon so far, IMHO.

How many more have you got to do?
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on July 10, 2011, 03:33:00 AM


Here's an update on the Chariots:



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The face on the second chariot will have stylized tentacles that spread out across the chariots front.


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Here's the chariot scaled against a Pleasure Seeker.



Seekers of Slaanesh:


I don't like the big claws on the Seeker models so I substituted WF Dark Elf lances and shields.


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Daemonette Nipples:

So, I cut and scraped smooth the chests of the daemonettes and sculpted on exposed breasts of various sizes and degrees of perkiness; from natural to silicone.   :D   I used Aves Sculpt so that I could get the basic forms really smooth with a bit of light sanding.  I intended to use GS for the actual nipples but even using a small stamp I made from styrene in was taking way to long.  I have 150 or so daemonettes, all needing between 2-6 nipples each.   :o

So, I was reading a tutorial today were the guy used a tooth pick to stamp freckles on his daemonettes, and I thought...if only I could do that with the nipples.  But what to use...how about super glue?  but that flowed to much, so I need something thicker.  Then I remembered that you can mix talcum powder into superglue and use it as a filler.  It worked great! and hardened up fast as well.  Apply multiple applications to get the size and diameter you want.


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Oh yeah...let them dry with their breast pointing down.  Like so.

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Wax Casts:

Ahhh...molten wax.

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Just giving the cooling wax a finally stir to mix the components.

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Here I am ladling wax into the molds. The molds were first heated in a microwave to help the wax flow into the recesses of the mold.  I also butterfly the molds open to pour wax into the bottom of the mold.  You couldn't do this with resin and it'd be messy and wast a ton of resin. 

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But with wax I don't really care if it overflows the mold.  I have a bowl lined with aluminum foil to catch any spillage.  When done I place the bowl in the freezer for a few minutes to harden the wax so it comes off easily.  Then back into the melt pot it goes.

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My melt pot is a $20 multi-cooker from Walmart. 


Here are the molds in one of my pressure pots.  Pressure casting ensurs that the wax gets into the molds details, and it makes the the wax harder and more dense.


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Here's the pot pressurized to 60 psi, alot more than necessary.  But the higher the pressure the harder the resulting wax will be.


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And the results:

Admittedly, the casts of the grinder aren't perfect; but that's due to the flaws in the mold that I show earlier.  They cleaned up very nicely. 

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The main benefit of using wax besides it being reusable, is that its very easy to smooth and to carve fine details.  With my wax pen I can also draw on fine details as well.  So, once I gat the her smooth and tollerance the surface on the sculpt.  I be drawing on the belly veins, and carving in a complex Henna pattern like this one:

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or this:

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On second thought maybe I should just doe the pattern in micron pen once she's painted?  Maybe something like this custom Lord of Change buy Metal Fingered Villian:

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Oh yeah, I cast this guy too.  He'll be getting some additional detailing as well.

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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on July 10, 2011, 03:55:30 AM
A quick size comparison of my various Slaaneshi Daemons. 
 

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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on July 10, 2011, 03:58:33 AM

WIP Herald Chariot:



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Counts as Nurglings:




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Later!


Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Seraph Tenacious on July 10, 2011, 04:14:44 AM
All of that stuff looks fantastic. It's nice seeing an update here!

Awesome work.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Azash76 on July 10, 2011, 06:24:42 AM
Wow fantastic work you are a talent!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: tryanotherone - smurfernating on July 10, 2011, 10:25:22 AM
I like it. :)

I am also glad that you picked up the advice and went for more details.

The appearance of your minis is much more dynamic and realistic that way.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on July 16, 2011, 11:26:57 PM
Hi Guys,

I haven't been able to work on much this week.  I got caught up in the Midwest power outages and didn't have power for nearly a week.  But I did manage to do a few things:


I finally got around to making my flute player:


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I also came up with a Fiend design that I like:



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These will mostly posed hunched over like the picture below, that also show the scale I'm going for.

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Here's were I am after about an hour.  This is chavant oil clay, I'm using the hard variant to sculpt my roughs now. Once I have the model blocked in, I mold it and cast it into wax, to detail and finish it up.  Don't mind the arm, that will be replaced.


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Chariots:


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Terror Tots:


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More Soon!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Mr.Peanut (Turtleproof) on July 17, 2011, 08:19:45 AM
These are really, really superb, I'm glad to see your months of effort come to fruition.  I'm not too keen on the oversized breasts, that's Doc Thunder's ... infamous claim to notoriety.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: greatereldanesh on July 17, 2011, 08:28:37 PM
Hold on now! Am I getting this straight? These are cast in WAX!?! How fragile are these pieces? PLease give more insight into this, I need to know more please!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Unlimited on July 18, 2011, 07:03:54 AM
Hold on now! Am I getting this straight? These are cast in WAX!?! How fragile are these pieces? PLease give more insight into this, I need to know more please!

The wax pieces are pretty fragile, but he isn't using the wax parts as finals! Rather, he's sculpting the general shapes, then casting them in wax for more sculpting. Wax is better at holding fine details than clay because it can be carved very easily. He will then make new molds of the wax parts, and cast resin finals out of those molds.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on July 21, 2011, 10:42:42 AM
Hi Guys,

I've been working on new stuff, as well as cleaning up and in some cases replacing some of the older sculptures and conversions.  I gotten a bit better since I started this project and a few things were falling behind.  The important thing is that I'm learning...I guess. :D

So, first up I when back and replace all the riders on Pleasureseekers. 

(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.dakkadakka.com%2Fgallery%2F2011%2F7%2F21%2F249724_sm-.JPG&hash=4cd9a06394bbdbdffacf003d1bc6447507a9acd4) (http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/249724-.html)

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They all have lances and shields.  The models with extra kit, such as the Alluress and musician have their shields strapped on their backs. Anyway these are ready to paint now.

Parts List:

Bodies -                               Seekers kit
heads -                                Seekers and Daemonette kits
claws -                                Seekers and Daemonette kits
humanoid hands & arms -       WF Vampire Counts - Ghouls kit
Lances & swords -                 WF Dark Elves - Cold One Riders kit
Shields -                              WF Dark Elves - Cold One Riders kit
Mount -                               WF Warriors of Chaos - Slaanesh Lord kit
Wings -                                WF Brettans - Pegasus Knight kit




Daemon Princess:

I also re-sculpted the tentacle hair on the Daemon Princess.  I just didn't like how stiff it looked.  So this is more like the original version I sculpted way back.  Much more dynamic and layered.  Plus, since its in sections like the hair of the new Dark Elf - Supreme Sorceress it should much easier to cast.   :thumbsup:


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More later!

Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on July 21, 2011, 11:23:18 AM
Hold on now! Am I getting this straight? These are cast in WAX!?! How fragile are these pieces? PLease give more insight into this, I need to know more please!

The wax pieces are pretty fragile, but he isn't using the wax parts as finals! Rather, he's sculpting the general shapes, then casting them in wax for more sculpting. Wax is better at holding fine details than clay because it can be carved very easily. He will then make new molds of the wax parts, and cast resin finals out of those molds.

Yep.  That's exactly right.  Moving to wax does a couple of things. First the surface is very hard, allowing me to hold the model in my hands rather than using a handle of some sort. Second wax can hold extremely tight detail, and is easily carved and smooth with heated tools and solvents. Finally, wax and the chavant clay that I'm now using for my roughs is completely reusable. Which saves allot of expense.

While, you doe have to mold the model twice in expensive silicone, even that can be reused a few times as well. I've also experimented with alginate molds. Which is vastly cheaper than silicone.

Hopefully the above explanation makes sense.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on July 21, 2011, 11:29:13 AM
These are really, really superb, I'm glad to see your months of effort come to fruition.  I'm not too keen on the oversized breasts, that's Doc Thunder's ... infamous claim to notoriety.

Which ones?  I tried to vary the breast sizes.  Daemonettes are supposed to change their appearance to fit the victim's desires.  So, I have cup sizes AA to DD+.  On the Soul Grinder they're large as they would be with any pregnant woman. 

Dr. Thunder doesn't sculpt breasts, those marines just huge nurgle-eqsque tumors or something...  ;D
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Unlimited on July 21, 2011, 10:12:25 PM
Hold on now! Am I getting this straight? These are cast in WAX!?! How fragile are these pieces? PLease give more insight into this, I need to know more please!

The wax pieces are pretty fragile, but he isn't using the wax parts as finals! Rather, he's sculpting the general shapes, then casting them in wax for more sculpting. Wax is better at holding fine details than clay because it can be carved very easily. He will then make new molds of the wax parts, and cast resin finals out of those molds.

Yep.  That's exactly right.  Moving to wax does a couple of things. First the surface is very hard, allowing me to hold the model in my hands rather than using a handle of some sort. Second wax can hold extremely tight detail, and is easily carved and smooth with heated tools and solvents. Finally, wax and the chavant clay that I'm now using for my roughs is completely reusable. Which saves allot of expense.

While, you doe have to mold the model twice in expensive silicone, even that can be reused a few times as well. I've also experimented with alginate molds. Which is vastly cheaper than silicone.

Hopefully the above explanation makes sense.

Alginate?? Silicone?? What you want, sir, is urethane. Seriously. Look it up!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on August 10, 2011, 02:52:12 AM
Okay I finally finished my 4 Chariots of Slaanesh:


Chariot # 1:

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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on August 10, 2011, 03:05:43 AM
Chariot #2:



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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on August 10, 2011, 03:14:33 AM
Chariot # 3:


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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on August 10, 2011, 03:27:01 AM
Chariot # 4:


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Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on August 10, 2011, 03:33:58 AM
Group shouts:




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Mounted Heralds:


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I have more to post but its 2 am.  I'm going to bed.  More after breakfast!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: uriƫl1978 on August 10, 2011, 04:38:49 AM
Wow, this is probably some of the best stuff I've ever seen and probably will see in a very long time. I've been watching this project for a very long time now and your skill never seizes to amaze me. Keep up the good work and I can hardly wait to see it all painted.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: SMVaughn on August 10, 2011, 09:01:21 AM
This project is most impressive. I am utterly impressed with your complete converted onlly army. It adds a unique feel to it.

I also agree completely that to see it painted would add to the world in which you are drawing your inspirations from. Your creativity and ability to design and produce top notch quality models from almost nothing is outstanding.

Look forward to seeing more of your updates.
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on August 11, 2011, 01:48:26 PM
Okay I finished my 1st Damon Princess the former eldar harlequin Sor'dia'del.  She has the DP#1 body, the new tentacle head with some additional sculpted tentacles.


I really like the new tentacle hair.  It's much more dynamic and layered. 


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After looking through my Slaanesh reference images I saw a few things I wanted to added.  She was seductive as all things Slaanesh should be but not monstrous enough.  So I decided to add some elements from current GW KOS model and this image:


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Note the spiky bony plates growing out of the rib-cage and cradling the breasts.  I used spare horns from the seeker mounts to recreate them here.  Actually I've used those horn bits several times in the army: the Gluttons, KOS, DP's, chariots, Pleasure seekers and of course Seekers all have them added is different ways.  I'm using it as another unifying design element like the wing motif, tentacles and nudity.

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She's got some additional spikes piercing the skin at the hip joints.


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She just needs a bit more clean up and then she's just need painting and some Slaanesh brass-etch symbols.








Heralds: 


These all still need names and backgrounds. 


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More Later!

Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Sersi on August 11, 2011, 01:49:40 PM
A few close ups on the Heralds:

The first one are pretty much just kit bashing.  The second the same with a slight repose.  The last one is a Frankenstein combining a Reaper vampire mini, with daemonette and seeker bits, plus weapons hands taken from two different Dark Elf kits.  she less top heavy than the others, so I compensated with a bit more junk in the trunk.   :D


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I've never really liked the Masque mini.  How could the same guy who sculpted the older metal daemonettes sculpt that thing?  She has two breast but instead of being next to each other their on above the other? Really?  Anybody no who sculpted the new plastic daemonettes and seekers?  Anyway, here's my converted version.  I kept what I felt were the best parts the hair and skirt.  The face was weird so I replaced it with a bald daemonette head and sculpted the transition from the new head to the hair.  I also used a seeker torso and daemonette legs to get her proportions closer to the plastics.  The banner is from the WF Slaanesh Lord mounted on a Boobworm.   The other herald has a WF Dark Elf sword and one of the Masque's missing arms.


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Updated to the KOS:


So after looking at my reference pics:


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I decided add some additional bling to the model. 


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Let me tell you trying to bend those tiny little links that hold the chain to the larger rings was a real #$%!.  The chain and two shorter strands attached to the lower eventually hold a brass-etch Slaanesh symbol in place.  Oh, he also got two additional stubby little horns, to bring him up to the sacred number of "6".

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The Slaanesh symbol around the neck is from the Chaos Space marine icon, just cut down.


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I wanted to add something to the open hand.  So I thought how about a nice pimp glove made from supple Eldar skins.  The gem on the glove is part of an Eldar infinity circuit.  The trapped souls within are always available to torment for his amusement.


Lastly looking at the reference pictures; you guys were right he needs some eyes. The face just doesn't emote without them. 











Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: moc065 on August 12, 2011, 09:58:02 AM
Your work never seises to amaze me. WOW.

I would like to see them place beside a regular 28 mm figure from time to time though so that I can get a better appreciation of their scale and proportion (game wise).

Cheers
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Artcore on August 13, 2011, 12:12:54 PM
Is someone gonna paint this wonderful army? I'd love to see them painted in a quality equal to your building skills!
Title: Re: Scratch Built - Slaaneshi Soul Grinder
Post by: Da Pittman on August 16, 2011, 01:54:31 PM
Simply amazing to say the least, the detail and the scale of the project is outstanding.  Keep up the great work.