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Title: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on April 17, 2006, 08:33:07 AM
Greetings all. I do occassionally whip out some comics. Currently on to a 40K one so thought I would share. I accept all feedback positive or negative in stride so feel free to express yourself.

This is the 1st one and its reworked form based on imput from other 40K fans...

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And the reworked one...

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Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: BladeWind on April 18, 2006, 05:35:25 PM
I see what you mean by 'Simplistic Style' and it does show potential. My main concern with your comic above is that to me there just isn't enough action going on. I also think some sort of background would do wonders, perhaps giving some hint of thier location would give the readers more information than what they read in the speech bubbles. For your first comic, its very well done, given time you may have something good going on :)


Oh and Welcome to 40KO! enjoy your stay :)
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on April 18, 2006, 07:37:20 PM
many thanks. Not my 1st web comic, some of my other ones got pretty complicated with colors and shading. But thatwas when I was deployed and could work on them for 2-3 hours daily. I'm back home with the kids and family and work so I don't have nearly as much time as I had last year sitting in Baghdad.

I wanted a simpler style because I do all my work on the computer (scanner is a POS and wont scan... but will still print and fax... dang windows XP!). Additionally with a simpler style it lets me work on expressions and the text portion with out the big back ground distraction. There are more of them out there and the biographies will appear in due order... a couple are posted at the other site where I do my initial work up.

Again thanks for the feedback.
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on April 20, 2006, 02:46:11 PM
Gents... good to see people are looking occassionally, here is the second installment so I am posting a little bit before the friday deadline. Comments and feedback are appreciated.

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Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on April 21, 2006, 03:45:09 PM
Only War #3 is a colored one... comments or feedback is welcomed; don't expect too many colored ones though.

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I'll try to keep updates coming on fridays.
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: GordoBlue on April 21, 2006, 05:07:25 PM
haha, cool =)

keep it up.

what do you use to draw?
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on April 21, 2006, 06:49:21 PM
@Gordo: I am currently using Macromedia's Fireworks and a graphics tablet. I need to find my copy of Photoshop Pro 6/7 and start using that until I am more proficient. I just like the easy simple Fireworks interface.
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on April 22, 2006, 09:26:25 AM
Here is #4: hopefully will be caught up with the current comics by next friday (trying to post one every other day or so). Comments and feedback or ideas gratefully accepted.

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Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Devoured_Mazarine on April 22, 2006, 01:55:47 PM
Like it alot :D The last one made me think of the human shield unit in the southpark movie:D
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on April 22, 2006, 05:52:05 PM
Unfortunately I have never watched a complete episode of SouthPark... but I have heard most of the jokes. Many thanks for the reading of the comic and the positive comments. its also very well received at Drunk Duck Comic Forum. Hardest part of new comics is getting them read and spread around. So trying to get the customer base going.

But thanks again... their will be some more posted later tonight or tomorrow.
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Kitsune Tsuki on April 22, 2006, 09:57:07 PM
I understand the simplistic style, and I like it. But some parts annoy me.  First off, tighten up the shoulders. The fact that there's a space in between the should pad and the armour does look good.  After that, the hands and waist are a little small. mainly in the first and fourth comics.

Have you considered doing multiple panel comics, not one shot gags?
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Balthraka on April 22, 2006, 10:40:31 PM
I like it...its good.

But i also think multi panel would be good.

KCB
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: wper34 on April 23, 2006, 12:42:28 AM
It seems like I have failed to greet you when you posted in the thread "Welcome all Newcomers!"...

Well, I suppose it is never too late. Welcome to 40K Online, Thunderer! :) I hope you enjoy your time here in this community. And be sure to pop by the IG boards sometimes if you feel like talking & discussing anything about Guard. (Particularly your mech list) Many of the officers & people there are friendly. Just make sure you don't do something silly... ::)


Alright back to the topic...

I like your works there! Simple, Stupid, and Funny! :D Look forward to see more of them! ;)
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on April 23, 2006, 08:50:25 AM
@wper34: Many thanks for the greetings and I will be more active in the IG forums... I am currently sitting on 6 IG related forums but I need to trim that down as my surfing time is getting truncated.

@Khorne Commander Balthraka: check out the next one below for some multi frame comic with a tad of action.

@Fading Jew: Always nice to have another new reader, and as I will continually say I gratefully accept all comments positive or negative and will see if I can work off the discrepancies.Its (the comic) is still evolving and I am trying to settle into a style and proportions that for me is easy and quick to draw. It gets especially challenging when doing multiple cells because there is a ton of work making sure everyone still resembles each other, ame size, and all the other visual aspects of the artwork.

The shoulder pad issue was a style choice up front but if you look at SGT Martyr he actually has shirt sleeves where as Guardsman Bob (main character) and Gunner Joe don't. I might change up Bob and Joe to include shirt sleves and shorten their abdomen a bit which should help with the waist issue. I also need to come up with my own stylistic way of doing boots better.

But at least it is having the desired effect over here with some decent conversation, corrections, pointers, etc... being discussed than over at Warseer, Librarium Online, Slayer Brotherhood (small 40K section on that forum), Warvault, Work in Progress (conversion forum), and Armored Company. So this is quickly looking like its prime home... So I appreciate your candid and honest comments. Keep them coming... and by popular request here is the first multi-cell and collaborative work.

An IG player from Librarium Online scripted this one. I cut it down to 3 cells vice four and removed a character or two to meet a production time line. Unfortunately he is dragging this comic closer to TSOALR with the mentioning of the games rules and showing players... but that is no issue. So if anyone here thinks they want to do me a script I will work it into the schedule and they will get credit for the collaboration just like the guy in this one.

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Hope you all enjoy and as usual comments, positive or negative are greatfully accepted.

Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Lord of Winter and War on April 23, 2006, 09:35:58 AM
he he that last one touched me. I hate it when the hole missess the tank Hate hate hate! But this made me laugh :D
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on April 23, 2006, 11:10:47 AM
many thanks there killersquid... I aim to please... I should be kicking off the next one and might do some WIP shots of it. My writer is doing me up another script for next week and I have a game tuesday so I am sure something will inspire me as I get my butt handed to me by my GT going, Senior GW outrider opponent... but I might go Armored company and mess him up when he isn't looking.
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Nurble on April 27, 2006, 05:40:55 PM
Those are so funny! love them! cant wait to see more!
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on April 28, 2006, 07:05:28 AM
Thanks Nurble... today is my production day, seeing as how I haven't done a great job of time management I have to get one up tonight. So if all goes well there will be one posted this evening. My game earlier in the week didn't go but I have a funny story anyway... how many times have you shown up for a scheduled game and your opponent didn't make it... well let me tell you I play in a group and I was still the only guy out of 4-5 that showed up... annoying.

But I appreciate the nice comments and we will see if we can get another episode up tonight.
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: aetherguy881 on April 28, 2006, 07:40:35 AM
Nice! ;D raine should make a page for these comics on the main menu under humour.
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on April 28, 2006, 02:35:57 PM
Well we can hold off on that for a while until we are certain that I will be consistant... say at least 10-15 pictures up and then we can worry about whether there is any value added.  But I am productive... surf over to my art forum some time and you will see that I have quite a bit with much more to still attach. All things in time... so let me focus.

but I do appreciate the vote of confidence.
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on April 28, 2006, 09:53:54 PM
Alright, this was off the cuff but inspired by my lack of a game earlier in the week... yeah I hate that but next weekend is games day and there will be alot of goofy stuff to do comics about...

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Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Balthraka on April 28, 2006, 10:35:02 PM
SOOOO TRUE!!

I hate it when that happens.

KCB
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: wper34 on April 29, 2006, 10:15:25 AM
Ha ha! Oh, that is so true...

The only negative comment that I would say about these comics are: Please do not paint them! (Like what you did to number 3)

Basically, I think colours sort of ruin the style or a certain feeling from reading it in which black/white is more appropiate for your comics...
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on April 29, 2006, 03:59:17 PM
@Khorne commander... yeah, my only two games of 40K since getting back into the "small battlefield" have been against nids... they tend to eat through my guys. 1st Game was with allied Sisters of Battle plus Inquisitor lord and Inquisitor (had to fill up some points), second game was straight mech guard... my 3rd game will be either armored company or grenadiers plus an armored fist unit.

Slowly getting there, I haven't even gotten into docrines besides the organization ones yet.

@wper34: The colored ones will be few and far between but I am trying to get them a tad more complicated/advanced. As it stands I need to increase my pixel count this one was only 100 pixels per inch which left a lot to be desired on the line quality and ability to do detail. but I appreciate the comments.
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on May 5, 2006, 06:40:47 PM
Well Gents (any any 40K Ladies)... it is friday and the Emperor Commands that I continue to post... so here we go based on discussions at other places that like to discuss 40K and the infamous flashlights.

(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi19.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb186%2FThundererSB%2FOnly-War8JV2.jpg&hash=6fc7f5c473ecf7d647ac0dabd0b67d1711e848cc)

Additionally had my first battle against a non-Nid opponent. yes it was Guard... how did you guess... unfortunately I am currently W:0, L:2, T:1 so give me some help on tactics... well besides getting marines or other MEQ army.
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on May 5, 2006, 06:46:20 PM
Corrected some text in the second cell...

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Doh!
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Captain Leonidas on May 5, 2006, 10:10:14 PM
Well you can come to the guard board to get some tactical advise. Love your terminator mode lasguns :P
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: wper34 on May 6, 2006, 07:55:28 AM
Hmm... I wonder what would the stats for lasguns on "Terminator Mode" be like. STR 5, AP -, Assault 4? ::)

And, LOL! The guns even have "Microwave" setting! ;D
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: BladeWind on May 6, 2006, 08:01:19 AM
And, LOL! The guns even have "Microwave" setting! ;D
Its multipurpose then eh? allows them to see in the dark AND cook their food upon other things ::) :P

I'll be keeping my eye on this thread!
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on May 6, 2006, 09:17:42 AM
Well gentlemen I have to thank you for your nice comments and encouragement. I do try to get one out on Friday of each week. I have 2-3 more in the "thinking" stage.

I guess I should do a WIP one at some point. I normally just sit down and rip one out on the graphics tablet in Fireworks as I am still a novice at Photoshop 7 or what ever it is. I will say that Photoshop 7 has some great capabilities and I have downloaded a few tutorials on coloring with it but I have a severe lack of time management and a 9 year old that like to boot me from my computer to play her Night Elf character on World of Warcraft.

I definetly do need to learn to play my guard better because I suck and I have socked quite a bit of money into them ... so lets see what the current inverntory is 1 Exterminator, 1 Demolisher, 2-3 Russ, 1 sentinel, 4 assembled chimera, 2 Chimera in box, 3 plastic heavy bolters, 1 metal heavy bolter, 3 plastic las cannons, 1 metal lascannon (steel legion squad (Hardened Vets in my list)). Have 4-6 plasma gunners, 3-4 melta's, 7-12 grenade launcher guardsmen, 1 flamer guardsmen, enough infantry to field 2 mech platoons + 3 command squads or a command squad, 1 hardened vet squad (10 steel legion), 3 grenadier squads (plastic cadians plus kasarkin special weapons for the stormtrooper look), and drop command squad + 2 drop squads of plastic cadians.

But I guess I need to pull up my list and head over to the IG side and get some help.

If all goes well I might have another comic up later this weekend. Next weekend I will be at the Baltimore Games Day if all goes well.
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Bannedface666 on May 7, 2006, 03:11:57 PM
OMG... You are the perfect artist to capture the heart and soul of the guardsman!

I love how your characters interact with their "owners". Thats so awesome!
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on May 7, 2006, 04:47:17 PM
Many thanks Intelectawe. I am still settling into the genre, characters and all but it will migratefrom time to time being a "we're guardsmen" comic to a "gaming sucks when this happens" comic to a "guardsmen vs gamers" comic. So no telling where we will be next week but I will say I have 2 of 4 cells done already on the next one... and the LT and Sarge play a semi-big part in the next one with Guardsman Bob being less in the spot light.

But thanks for reading and I'll be around...
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on May 7, 2006, 08:26:33 PM
Look Ma... two in a week.

(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi19.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb186%2FThundererSB%2F3c19a978.jpg&hash=2753ac3730a2ba8eb233d604c29bdb2205f6199a)

You all know you hate the pie plates... but you gotta love armored companies. More pie plates than you can shake a stick at. Mine is almost complete so I can alternate between it and my mech company.
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Bannedface666 on May 7, 2006, 10:09:45 PM
Another mother fruggin insra classic!

I hope sgt. Martyr is going to be a regular?

As a matter of fact, why don't you create a "mock" platoon, name the guys, and always use them in your strips.

This way, readers can identify with certain characters and become attached to your strip.
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on May 8, 2006, 07:17:46 AM
Well there is a repeating crowd in the works:

LT B. (Butter) Bar: is the platoon leader
SGT Martyr is the squad leader for the 13th Squad AKA Meat Shields
Guardsman Bob (main character) part of 13th Squads Heavy Weapons section
Gunner Joe is the Heavy Bolter gunner

and I have 6 more in the works to round out the squad:

Plasma Gunner #6: well you don't want to know what happened to the first five. Needless to say in my first game with plasma gunners they all killed themselves in their first round of shooting

Ghun Bhunni: Female Guardsmen "Love those Grenades"

Proxied: Probably one of my dwarf warriors on a square base. Yeah I have tons of old dwarves and slayers. I run Slayer Brotherhood Forum as well so it might turn out to be a troll slayer.

And a few more.

Additionally, my daughter has a budding crew of sisters of battle plus we have what is left from the battle of MacCragg set rolling around the house. A few nids here and there plus a squad of marines. So we might see some forces of the inquistion plus the 'rines show up from time to time.
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Bannedface666 on May 8, 2006, 11:31:50 AM
oh wow!!

I just laughed hard just reading those names!!!

I can;t wait to see more of your stuff!
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on May 8, 2006, 02:26:33 PM
Slight correction... Doh! Spelling in 1st cell, Fireworks doesn't have a spellcheck that i have found so far.

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Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: wper34 on May 11, 2006, 11:51:15 PM
Armoured Company commander: You will love my pie plates of Doom!

Additionally, my daughter has a budding crew of sisters of battle plus we have what is left from the battle of MacCragg set rolling around the house. A few nids here and there plus a squad of marines. So we might see some forces of the inquistion plus the 'rines show up from time to time.

So... Are you gonna include them in your comics?
Title: Re: ...Only War (40K, Webcomic, Simplistic Style)
Post by: Thunderer on May 12, 2006, 06:29:35 AM
Oh we will definetly have some sisters. Nothing says sex appeal in 40K like sisters, repentia, and arco flagellants... but this isn't the thread about what turns you on... wink wink.

Today should be adding a new member to the squad. So be watching later for the new "redshirt" for you trekkies out there. I have been inspired about some funny game experience from some of my troops. Its a toss up of using my Demolisher story of my "red shirt" experiences.