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(help with)My main list
« on: March 26, 2010, 10:34:39 AM »
this is my main battleforce, and in every game ive played ive been out manouvered by either striking scorpions or really buffed nid warriors, can someone help me change it or my stradegy to combat these?

Commander Shas'el
Cyonic fusion blaster
airbusting frag projecter
shield drone x 2
142pts

Troops
Kroot carnivore squad
20 kroot
shaper
160 pts

Kroot hound squad
5 kroot hounds
30 pts

2x fire warrior squads
12 fire warriors
1 shasui
270pts

devilfish
target lock
flechette dischargers
smart missile system
115pts

ELites
2 x stealth teams
6 stealth siuts
360pts

2 x Hammerhead gunship
railgun
smart missle systems
flechette dischargers
target lock
multi-tracker
370pts

1441 pts
« Last Edit: March 26, 2010, 01:20:31 PM by nomsheep »
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Re: (help with)My main list
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2010, 01:01:21 PM »
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Commander Shas'o
Cyonic fusion blaster
airbusting frag projecter
target lock
shield drone x 2
145pts
Drop him down to a shas'el, give him a targeting array, and he's now 15 points cheaper with the same fire power.  3 Weapon options seems to be a waste to me, simply because at most you can only fire 2 in a turn, I'd suggest dropping either the fusion (for him to be anti-horde), or drop the airburst, and swapping fusion for plasma (For him to be anti-teq).  He doesn't need target lock, as he's already the one shooting, unless you plan on having the shield drones shoot somewhere  ;) .  Drones are good, since they give you ablative wounds.

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Troops
Kroot carnivore squad
20 kroot
shaper
6+ save
181 pts
Drop the shaper, and the save, as that's (generally speaking) point sinking, and not all that benefitial.  Only a few weapons I can name that doesn't cut that armor, and rarely does it ever help in hand to hand.
 
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2x fire warrior squads
12 fire warriors
1 shasui
bonding knife
285ptspts
Acceptable... Personally I found the 'ui, and bonding knife is often a waste of points... keeping the 'ui for higher leadership isn't a bad idea, unless you plan on mounting these guys in a fish.
 
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ELites
2 x stealth teams
6 stealth siuts
1 fusion blaster
shusvre
384pts
Tau operate best when their unit roles are not split.  Keep all suits as burst cannons and have them go unit hunting... Honestly even str 5 w/ 18 shots to back armor often destroys a vehicle.  Drop the squad leader, just a little bit more of point sinking here.
 
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2 x Hammerhead gunship
railgun
smart missle systems
flechette dischargers
targeting array
180pts
I perfer the bursts as you get 2 more shots out of the hammerhead, but that's fine.  Flechettes are optional as all my opponents if they hear there's flechettes, they learn to just shoot it rather than assault it, or assault it with units that it won't really matter if they take wounds, or are highly unlikely to get wounded (hive tyrant for example).  Add in disruption pods... they are a must, as well as multi-tracker.  Disruption pod = mobile cover save, awesome.  Multi-tracker = able to fire as a fast vehicle, even better...
 
 
As far as strategy goes, all I can suggest is go mech... devilfish for fire warriors, and outflank the kroot.  Since you said you're being out manuvered by an outflanking unit, and nids.  Without hearing you general battle plan it's kind of hard to give tips on your strategy.
 
Also, seems like all your point values are off...
Commander: more like 157
Kroot: 180 (think you gave 1 extra armor accidentally).
Fire Warriors: 135 (each). (think you added an extra fire warrior or something, as the 'ui is an upgraded warrior, squad size is max 11 + ui = 12).
Stealth Teams: Correct.
Hammerheads: 170 (targeting array comes standard).

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Re: (help with)My main list
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2010, 01:21:39 PM »
I've edited the points so i think their right  ::) and changed a few troops.
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Re: (help with)My main list
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2010, 04:58:21 PM »
Your kroot are illegal.  a base unitm just contain 10 kroot, then you can add hounds.

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Re: (help with)My main list
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2010, 11:09:57 PM »
try and rethink your army list...starting from your commander...think about what you want each unit to do

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Re: (help with)My main list
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2010, 08:04:27 PM »
Commander Shas'el
Cyonic Ion blaster
Burst cannon
Target lock
Multi - tracker
Shield generator
Shield drone x 2
137pts

I need a hq and etherals are usless

2 x Kroot carnivore squad
12 Kroot
168pts

These are gonna hold objectives or if nessecary hunt a particular unit.

Gun drone squadron
8 gun drones
96pts

theses are going to pin down the enemy so i get in another round of firing

Fire warrior squad
12 fire warriors
shas’ui
130pts

Devilfish
Target lock
Flechette dischargers
smart missile system
115pts

these two are together and are a strike force for enemy infantry

Stealth team
6 stealth suits
180pts

pin down enemy's for extra rounds of shooting

2 x Hammerhead gunship
Railgun
Burst cannons
flechette dischargers
target lock
multi-tracker
350pts

the people i play against tend to have a very mech/monsterous creature heavy army so these are to counter that

Broadside shas’ui
Plasma rifle
80pts

same reason as hammer heads

XV8 crisis suit team
3 x XV8’s
Shas’vre
3 x burst canons
3 x shield generators
1 x plasma rifle
2 x missile pods
Muli-tracker (shas’vre only)
242

i will use these as a far more mobile anti-armour unit.
1498 pts

« Last Edit: March 28, 2010, 08:44:43 PM by nomsheep »
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Re: (help with)My main list
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2010, 08:15:35 PM »
Just a question....when you say "Cyonic fusion blaster"  Do you mean the Fusion Blaster, or the Cyclic Ion Blaster?

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Re: (help with)My main list
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2010, 08:22:56 PM »
i mean the ion blaster.
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2010, 08:36:55 PM »
Would you mind editting in what you envision each unit doing? This could help us suggest replacements and tweaks.
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Re: (help with)My main list
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2010, 08:43:39 PM »
ive edited the list to add in the reason for the units.
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