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Community => The Space Tavern => Topic started by: Starrakatt on October 26, 2018, 07:55:51 AM
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Yeah, there are old threads about it (shrug), they are years old.
What are your (say 10, arbitrarily) best or preferred books or series (or authors), and why are they your best (if you can bother to write it).
My own why is this: I like dramatic stories with realistic characters, with or without humour. Also dark stories and epics. Medium dense to very dense. I found that well built stories and characters can imerse one far enough to bring up tears or pain or frustration to the reader, if one accepts to get involved in the writing.
My top 10 right now, not necessarily in order, as things changes:
1. Lord of Light from Roger Zelazny (and the Amber books)
2. Fallen Dragon from Peter F Hamilton (and his Commonwealth and Night's Dawn series)
3. The Malazan Book of the Fallen from Steven Erikson
4. The Chalion series from Lois McMaster Bujold (Vorkosigan series)
5. Blindsight from Peter Watts
6. Name of the Wind series from Patrick Rothfuss (He IS making of himself another GRR Martin)and if you read that, you should read is short book, The Slow Regard of Silent Things, that got me tears.
7. Armor from John Steakley
8. The Praxis series by Walter Jon Williams
9. The Faded Sun trilogy from CJ Cherryh (and much of her other works)
10. The Corona world series from RA Salvatore
11. The Silmarillion from Tolkien, because I like epics
All of these I've read multiple times and will re-read, because I consider them that good. It ism of course, alist that is always a work in progress.
Care to share your experiences and tastes?
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I have a hard time identifying my taste, per se, since I like a lot of different things. I will say this: I prefer gritty over pollyanna naivete, but I don't like dismal or hopeless (so, most post-apocalyptica is a no-go for me). I like books that know how to tell a good joke in the midst of terror. I can't stand anything written in second person.
Series/books that I love (fantasy genre):
1. The Gentlemen Bastards series by Scott Lynch
2. The Name of the Wind series by Rothfuss (and yes, I think at this point the guy's early success with his first two books is getting into his head).
3. The Band series by Nicholas Eames (The Kings of the Wyld is his first, and boy-howdy is it a GOOD time)
4. The Traitor Baru Cormorant by Seth Dickinson. Arguably the best fantasy novel of the 21st century, by my assessment.
5. The Chalion Series by Bujold--a hearty second there.
6. The Wizard of Earthsea and its sequels, by Ursula K. LeGuin
7. The First Law trilogy by Joe Abercrombie (the anti-LoTR)
8. The Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan (even though I never wound up finishing them all, those were formative reads for me. Loved them).
Series/books I love (sci-fi genre):
1. Neuromancer by William Gibson
2. Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson
3. Anything and everything by Philip K. Dick
4. The Murderbot Diaries by Martha Wells
5. Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie
6. The Sparrow by Mary Doria Russel
7. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Robert Heinlein
8. The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe (not sure whether this goes in scifi or fantasy, but here it is)
Series/Books I love (mainstream):
1. The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck (everybody hates this book because they read it in high school, which is about ten years too early. Read it as an adult and have your mind blown)
2. The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway
3. Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut (it's *kinda* scifi, but also not really)
4. In an Antique Land by Amitav Ghosh
5. Grendel by John Gardner (Beowulf from the POV of the monster)
6. Their Eyes Were Watching God by Zora Neale Hurston
7. The Things They Carried by Tim O'Brien
8. Pretty much anything by David Sedaris
There, that ought to do... ;)
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Starrakatt! There's a name I haven't heard in years.
My list
1. Faerie Tale - Raymond E. Feist
Fantastic contemporary fantasy story that build on A Midsummernight's dream
2. Wheel of Time series - Robert Jordan (which also means only up to book 11)
Loved almost all of these books (Book 8 is somewhat of an outlier) Didn't like when Sanderson took over.
3. Riftwar Saga - Raymond E. Feist
This is the series Feist is mostly known for, and it's a really good series bourne out of playing D&D
4. Empire series - Raymond E. Feist / Janny Wurts
Sister series to the Riftwar Saga (my girlfriend likes it much more than Riftwar, incidentally)
5. Warbreaker - Brandon Sanderson
After the last 3 books of Wheel of Time, I was skeptical of Sanderson, but man is Warbreaker a good read!
6. Battle Circle - Piers Anthony
Post Apocalyptic fantasy, not usually my thing, but quite good. I also like his Xanth and Apprentice/Adept books, but they feel very methodical after a while.
7. Pern series - Anne McCafferey
McCafferey had some very interesting concepts in her books, most are pretty good, but all her series also start to feel the same after a while, but Pern had dragon riders!
8. Balgarion - David Eddings
Really good series, never read the follow up series (Mallorean) it's garbage.
9. Hobbit - JRR Tolkien
Read it when I was 13 and it basically introduced me to fantasy, I didn't enjoy the Lord of the Rings as much.
10. Seaward - Susan Cooper
I don't advise reading this as an adult, but as a kid, this was a really good book.
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Mmm. there's few that I read on your list, more that I didn't, will likely taste some when I run out of reading.
Wheel of Time gets bogged down after the first half, at a point I was getting desperate to see anything happening concerning the main plotline, but Sanderson put it back on track when he finished the series.
Speaking of Brandon Sanderson, his books are generally quite good, I have read his Stormlight Archives books, good stuff.
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Speaking of Brandon Sanderson, his books are generally quite good, I have read his Stormlight Archives books, good stuff.
I've been beslubbering devouring his books. Stormlight Archive is my #1 favourite series from any author. I also really enjoyed the first Mistborn Trilogy, and the Reckoners trilogy. Also, some characters from Warbreaker make appearances in the Stormlight archive. Wit, makes appearances in all of his cosmere books.
I also couldn't get into wheel of time. I've gotten up to "The great hunt for the Horn" book twice, and just lost interest.
In no particular order
1) Stormlight Archive (Brandon Sanderson) - Best series ever. Great characters, amazing world building. Just wow.
2) American Gods (Neil Gaimen) Fantasy beyond words. Travel story, horror, humour, drama, love, just an amazing experience overall.
3) Mistborn (Brandon Sanderson) After the battle between good and evil, evil won. The Lord Ruler, rules the world. A small band of criminals decide to try and rob him. Very interesting magic system.
4)Reckoners (Brandon Sanderson) What if people gained super powers? What if everyone who gained superpowers became villians? These are the guys who hunt them.
5) The Licanius trilogy (James Islington) - Epic Fantasy, bigger than name characters, lots of cool stuff.
6) The Great Way Trology (Henry Conolly) - Super cool premise, and very interesting take on magic. These books were way to short. My second most enoyed series after the Stormlight Archive. Just so refreshing and unique story.
7) Kings of the Wyld (Nicholas Eames) Nothing terribly game changing, or revolutionary, but a damned fun romp. A bunch of old (cranky) adventures get the band back together for one more job.
8) House of Leaves (Mark Z. Danielewski) A book which will never be an audiobook, and can't read digitally. You need to read this book physically. A book, about a book, about a documentary. Nothing is like this book. Hard to describe, and it really defies genre.
9) First Law Trilogy (Joe Abercrombie). Fun fantasy series, interesting world. Very interesting and (sometimes hilarious) characters. A book I loved to read, and laughed a lot reading.
10) Expanse series (James S. A. Corey) Great Sci-Fi series. Very grounded.
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@TagniK'ZuR: Hey mate, sure haven't been active for years! You got some nice books on your list, I need to read more of Feist. :)
@Killersqid: I watched the first 2 seasons of The Expanse, then realized it was from a book, need to read those.
Keep 'em coming guys, I think I will elaborate on some of the books I read, and ad more as I think about it, along with links. I don't see myself ever stop reading, so may as well keep this as an ongoing process.
Cya later ladies o7
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I'm really behind on my reading list :-[.
I've just bought a digital copy of The Chronicles of the Black Company by Glen Cook, since my physical omnibus was effectively destroyed before I could finish it :P. So this time I'm going to finish the sucker (at least omnibus one!). Good stuff if you like a really down-to-earth, grittier version of fantasy. If you like reading about Tyrannical Empresses and well-documented campaigns presented in journal form, I would recommend it!
I also need to finish A Time of Contempt, by Andrzej Sapkowski, which is either the third or fourth book in the Witcher Series. Once again, if you historical-esque dark fantasy, presented in a world of Eastern European Mythology, you can't really go wrong with the Witcher.
By the way, The Last Wish is the first book in the series and is actually a collection of short stories that flesh out important events in Geralt's life, awesome stories in this book from front to back.
Prince / King / Emperor of Thorns by Mark Lawrence, is an anti-hero novel about a young prince, long presumed dead after his family was ambushed and killed by soldiers paid by his own father to get rid of them. This series actually has some brutal scenes in it, so it might not be to your preference. I've read both Prince and King, and have gotten halfway through Emperor twice and stopped for reasons I cannot remember.
Path of the Dark Eldar Trilogy by Andy Chambers is still hands-down my absolute favorite Warhammer 40k series. I think Andy Chambers has inspired me no small amount with his immaculate depictions of the Drukhari, and how they thrive on the razor's edge between immortality and damnation, constantly thrust upon the precipice of infamy or ruin. And the plot of the entire series itself is one of the most epic tragedies I've seen from an eldar novel in a long time.
Currently, I've picked up an AoS short story that features the Nyreids (?), which I thought werre Idoneth Deepkin, but they're actually Sea-Nymphs, despite my disappointment, it's still an interesting read.
Second, I've picked up another AoS about two Witch Hunters, who happen to be lovers, hunting some plaguies and heretics across the mortal realms. From what I've read of the demo chapter, it looks like it'll be a great read.
Series that I might plan on picking up are:
Heirs of Empire (The Scourwind Legacy)
Mistborn Trilogy
Fatemarked Series
Anyone know of the Fatemarked series at all?
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I hate lists as generally I only remember recent releases rather than older times.
Here's my Goodreads list for things recently. Sontaranpr (216 books) (https://www.goodreads.com/review/list/38713127)
Honor Harrington series by David Weber. Nelson in space that then goes off the rails as Nelson lives. Defined tech, much political. Can get dreary at times.
The Expanse series Whole lot of fun and mayhem in this one. TV show, defined nine book series so they've chartered out how it rolls.
The Murderbot Diaries. Security Bot does something bad, hacks it's own governor module, then tries to just get damn well doing its job without being bothered.
The Sacred Throne series by Myke Cole. Fantasy rather than his prior urban fantasy. Somewhat steampunk but bloody brutal to read.
Kings of the Wyld pure bloody fun. Straight fantasy but with shout outs *everywhere*.
The Machineries of Empire series by Yoon Ha Lee. Somewhat 40K. Belief shapes reality. Advanced technologies can be used in certain areas of belief. beslubber with that and...
The Polity series by Neal Asher. Also The Owner series by same. World building done well.
Joe Abercromie can't do wrong. Shattered Sea and First Law
Frontlines series by Marko Kloos. Aliens invade, right, but they're 30 metres tall...
Sandman Slim series by Richard Kadrey. Heaven and Hell with everything between. Pure snark combat all the way.
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Oh, I should throw The Dresden Files on the list, by Jim Butcher.
The only wizard in the Chicago phonebook (series began when people used phonebooks), consults with the police for matters magical. He has a wizard parole officer with a magic sword, a horny pet demon as a research assistant, and on and on--it's awesome. Haven't read them all, but read the first 5 or 6 and enjoyed every one.
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The Thousand Names series by Django Wexler. Flintlock fantasy with daemons. Starts with an insurrection in a desert province and soon turns to political intrigue, revolution, and war.
Powder Mage stories by Brian McClellan. Two series and numerous novellas. Mages come in three varieties - the usual waving hands and making people explode style; gun powder mages who can enhance their physical abilities and senses, cause gun power to explode by range, guide their projectiles; and people with passive abilities such as not needing sleep, living lie detectors, and the like. This one has the Gods turn up here and there.
amphetamine parrot, how could I forget The Laundry Files series by Charles Stross. Contemporary horror/snarkfest where there are essentially Lovecraftian nasties out there and we're very tasty indeed. Magic is merely an advanced form of mathematics which makes clever bastards very dangerous indeed if not controlled. The Laundry is the British agency tasked with making sure said clever bastards are taken care of by giving them a job in a bureaucratic nightmare and life long oath of silence. Yet the Earth is heading into an area of space where the walls of reality are thin and we're making them thinner with our thinking machines and tasty population - CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN. The books cover many tropes and aspects. One is a wonderful James Bond caper, the Elves invade in another. Can not recommend them enough.
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The powder mage series is great. I am not as much of a fan of the next series he did, which takes place after the events of the first series of books, but I read them all too.
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Speaking of Brandon Sanderson, his books are generally quite good, I have read his Stormlight Archives books, good stuff.
I've been beslubbering devouring his books. Stormlight Archive is my #1 favourite series from any author. I also really enjoyed the first Mistborn Trilogy, and the Reckoners trilogy. Also, some characters from Warbreaker make appearances in the Stormlight archive. Wit, makes appearances in all of his cosmere books.
I also couldn't get into wheel of time. I've gotten up to "The great hunt for the Horn" book twice, and just lost interest.
I'm struggling through the Mistborn series at the moment. The Final Empire was good (not as good as Warbreaker, imo), the other two books just seem to drag on and the only reason I'm still going, is to find out more about the kandra and koloss.
I'll give Stormlight a try next :)
Wheel of Time is not for everyone, and if you find yourself losing interest in the first 3 books, I don't recommend going on. Whatever part is getting you down, I guarantee there will only be more of that in the coming books, and even die-hard fans tend to moan about Book 8 for being slow and boring. (Personally, I believe it's because Mat is absent)
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I'm struggling through the Mistborn series at the moment. The Final Empire was good (not as good as Warbreaker, imo), the other two books just seem to drag on and the only reason I'm still going, is to find out more about the kandra and koloss.
I'll give Stormlight a try next :)
I've tried really hard to get into Sanderson (he and I share the same agent, so, like, he's sort of a colleague), but there's something that just keeps me out. I couldn't even tell you what. I tried Stormlight and didn't get too far, did the first two Mistborn books and then sort of lost interest. I dunno. There's nothing objectively wrong with them, I just can't connect.
Wheel of Time is not for everyone, and if you find yourself losing interest in the first 3 books, I don't recommend going on. Whatever part is getting you down, I guarantee there will only be more of that in the coming books, and even die-hard fans tend to moan about Book 8 for being slow and boring. (Personally, I believe it's because Mat is absent)
Seconded and yeah, Book 8 sucks. I made it as far as 10 (9 and 10 sucked, too). I loved all of them until 6 (6 was the best), 7 was just okay, then I got tired of waiting for the next one and moved on. Then he died and Sanderson took over (see my above discussion) and I haven't felt the need to go back.
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Within the 40k universe.
Horus Heresy series
Path of the xxx Gav Thorpe books
Farseer
Asurmen and Jain Zar.
Valedor.
Outside of GW.
Mary Shelley's - Frankenstein
Bram stoker's - Dracula
Shannara series - Terry Brooks
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I hate lists as generally I only remember recent releases rather than older times.
Indeed, should have used anotehr format from the start, lists tend not to be exhaustives and are mostly always a WIP anyway. Ohwell.
I kind of also struggled to finish The Wheel of Time, the last third of the series felt like dragging on and on and on and nothing much happened. French edition books were lent to me by a friend, except teh last 3 by Sanderson were never published, I guess as it was a different author/contract and possibly couldn't deal with teh french editor for whatever reason. Ended up buying the mass market paperbacks in english to finish the series, gave these up to anotehr friends who was getting the series himself.
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4. The Traitor Baru Cormorant by Seth Dickinson. Arguably the best fantasy novel of the 21st century, by my assessment.
Thought I'd bought that in the past few months since the sequel is out. Couldn't find it. Amazon says I bought it and it was delivered. Ended up finding in right in the middle of one of the to-read piles dead centre at eye level. Been a few topple incidents so must have restacked and forgotten about it. On the list to read with all the others coming out.
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Got myself a taste of the Laundry Files, finishing reading The Atrocity Files, quite a good read.
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I love those things. Finished the most recent one a couple of weeks ago. They get darker as you go along but still with the suitable level of snark and commentary.
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Anyone else read the Nevernight books? Fantasy world, three suns in eccentric orbits so the place only really gets total dark every 4-5 years. First book is a girl whose family gets trampled after a failed coup attempt led by her father. Ends up with her going to a teen assassin school like Hogworts but where some of the professors will actively try and kill their students as part of the lesson. Second book is her infiltrating a gladiator school so expecting Spartacus feelings.
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Anyone else read the Nevernight books? Fantasy world, three suns in eccentric orbits so the place only really gets total dark every 4-5 years. First book is a girl whose family gets trampled after a failed coup attempt led by her father. Ends up with her going to a teen assassin school like Hogworts but where some of the professors will actively try and kill their students as part of the lesson. Second book is her infiltrating a gladiator school so expecting Spartacus feelings.
Haven't heard of it; sounds interesting.
Two most recent reads of note:
Gideon the Ninth by Tamsyn Muir: About as close to 40K you're going to get outside of the black library. Far future empire based on necromancy. It's got cool swordfights, snarky protagonists, creepy demonic entities, and a giant, unspeakably ancient fortress full of secret doors and stuff. Wild fun.
Circe by Madeline Miller: Greek Mythology from the POV of the famous witch of the Odyssey. Great, great book. Reminds me of Gardner's Grendel, except less self-involved and maudlin (largely because the POV character is less of a morose dope). If you like Greek Mythology, it's a must-read.
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Haven't heard of the Nevernight series either. I honestly haven't been reading much :-[(blasphemy, I know). But, the new Witcher show, which has exceeded my expectations by a significant margin (they were set around 0), has me wanting to start over and finish The Witcher series.
Also, an Idoneth Deepkin book has finally dropped for Age of Sigmar. Going to be reading that, definitely!
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Gideon the Ninth was pure bliss. Snark to snark combat, interesting uses of necromancy, and not everyone is a cis white guy saving the universe.
Oh yeah, finished the second Nevernight book and it's still cracking along. If you've seen the first season of Spartacus you'll pick up the gist quickly enough.
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If you've seen the first season of Spartacus you'll pick up the gist quickly enough.
You know how to sell a series without ever talking about what the story is about with this one sentence lol.
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Haven't heard of the Nevernight series either. I honestly haven't been reading much :-[(blasphemy, I know). But, the new Witcher show, which has exceeded my expectations by a significant margin (they were set around 0), has me wanting to start over and finish The Witcher series.
I also started the Witcher books and to tell the truth I was a bit disappointed - their style is much like that of a folk tale. They're not bad , but neither are they the hyped up masterpiece I was expecting.
Aside from that, I'd say, as far as fantasy series go, Elric of Melnibone has been my favourite.
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Hi Radec,
Did you by chance only read The Last Wish? That is a collection of short stories meant to build the beginning of the Witcher series.
Once you get to The Blood of Elves, it'll start following that novel format you're expecting.
Hope this helps! But yeah, the series won't appeal to everyone. But if you haven't read the second book yet, I'd think about giving it another chance :).
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Yrs, I started with "The last wish" (since it was marked as book number 1 in the series). I'm certainly not leaving the series and it is good to know that they get better!
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Anyone else finished The Maleficent Seven by Cameron Johnston? Obviously a homage to The Magnificent Seven except this time the people organising the defence of the village are a demonologist, necromancer, vampire lord, pirate queen, elder Ork, former god avatar, and a *highly* unethical alchemist. Highly amusing and this is an Orc done right. Really enjoyed it.
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That one's certainly on my list.
My most recent SF/F read that I liked was Planetside by Michael Mammay. Very solid mystery-based Military Scifi fare, enjoyed it quite a bit. Full disclosure: Mike is a friend of mine. Nevertheless, I do heartily recommend.
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I've been reading his books for a while. Nice bloke on Twitter as well. Sounds like he's going a corker of a book coming out soon.
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Yeah, it's mil scifi humor. A bit of departure for him, so he's nervous about it. He's already got a pretty loyal following, though, so I think he'll do fine.
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I've been reading the Siege of Terra book series, and it's pretty amazing so far.
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Yeah, it's mil scifi humor. A bit of departure for him, so he's nervous about it. He's already got a pretty loyal following, though, so I think he'll do fine.
I've got a preorder on it as he's always done me well.
Marko Kloos' Palladium Wars series is quite fun. Interplanetary war ended a while ago with the aggressors crushed and now occupied. One of the main characters was on the losing side and knows that they did a bad. Now someone is trying to kick it all off again.
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Currently reading Empire of the Vampire by Jay Kristoff.
It's essentially Interview with a Vampire, except the Vampire is the interviewer and the "thing" he's interviewing is the Witcher. Fun so far, but a bit on-the-nose and working in broad strokes. The MC just uttered "Where's the beslubbering pub" in a post-apocalyptic hellscape, so I can't reasonably take it TOO seriously.
By that measure, incidentally, we Warhammer fans should LOVE IT.
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Ever tried Prosper's Demon by KJ Parker? A world where exorcists and demons keep running into each other over and over again so it's like "oh beslubber off, not you again." It's a quick and snarky read.
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Ever tried Prosper's Demon by KJ Parker? A world where exorcists and demons keep running into each other over and over again so it's like "oh beslubber off, not you again." It's a quick and snarky read.
Putting it on my list now. A few projects I'm considering a dark fantasy/horror and I need to bone up a bit on the subgenre.
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KJ Parker is Tom Holt so you know what you're getting into. ;)