Topic: (exactly)1500pt list of gork and morks ungodly cheese filled nob warbikers

[Count von cordova]

 
YOU THOUGHT GREY KNIGHTS HAD A LOW AMOUNT OF MODELS !!
Check dis owt fellow greenskinz

 warbiker Warboss 155
power klaw
shoota / skorcha
squig
cybork body

6nob bikers 545
pain boy
6 power klaws
cybork body
waaagh! banner

 warbiker Warboss 155
power klaw
shoota / skorcha
squig
cybork body

6nob bikers 545
pain boy
6 power klaws
cybork body
waaagh! banner

your choice of a

big mek with shokk attack gun and heavy armour -100pts
or
Deff dread with 2 skorchas - 100pts


personally i'd choose the deff dread but the mekk is always so much fun!

[ragnabob]

addition:

And your third HQ-choice... 

Think the list qualifies for the 'loads-of-eggs-in-a-single-basket'. If you have an opponent with a lot of S8 spam, you are going down rather fast. Thus, my main comment:

Cool list, but you'll either win big of lose big!

[Count von cordova]

lol i was so excited about this list that i actuallly forgot i alraedy had two hq

[Balthraka]

6 PK's per unit is way way way overkill!

Here is what I run:

HQ
Warboss
Power Klaw
Warbike
Attack Squig
Cybork Body

Warboss
Power Klaw
Warbike
Cybork Body

Elites
Nobz x 6
Warbike
Cybork Bodies
2 x Power Klaw
1 x Bosspole
1 x Waaagh! Banner
1 x Shoota/Skorcha Combi
Painboy
Warbike
Cybork Body


Troops
Nobz x 5
Warbike
Cybork Bodies
1 x Power Klaw
1 x Bosspole
1 x Waaagh! Banner
1 x Shoota/Skorcha Combi
Painboy
Warbike
Cybork Body

Nobz x 5
Warbike
Cybork Bodies
1 x Power Klaw
1 x Bosspole
1 x Waaagh! Banner
1 x Shoota/Skorcha Combi
Painboy
Warbike
Cybork Body

1500 on the nose...

-B

[Count von cordova]

overkill is good though. you only need to kill 5 units to assure yourself a tie in anihallation
you need to make sure that whatever unit you are fighting IS DEAD even if that means killing it twice

[skarmek]

I have a question about your bikers. How come you're giving them cybork bodies? Don't they get a 4+ cover save because of the bike? Won't the 5+ cover save of cybork bodies be useless?

[Locarno]

Yup. Unless someone hits you in close combat. Which, frankly, is where you're going to end up.
Power fist insurance, y'ken?

[skarmek]

So, the 4+ cover save is only when being shot at? Makes sense.

[Changeyname]

So, the 4+ cover save is only when being shot at? Makes sense.

yes because thats how cover works, remember that cybork is an INVULNERABLE save not a cover save

overkill is good though. you only need to kill 5 units to assure yourself a tie in anihallation

not true, if they wipe you off the table then you loose, big time as you count as having been massacred and that means a 5-0 win for your opponent 

[skarmek]

How come it says 4+ save in the warbiker's little stats table then? It also states that the warbike "modifies his troop type to bike, and gains a 4+ armour save".

What does this mean?

[Changeyname]

ok warbikers and nob-bikers have:

a 4+ armour save granted when they take the bike
a 4+ cover save granted by the "exhaust could" special rule
nob-bikers may then have an additional 5+ invunerable save by taking cybork bodies (this is also available to warbikers if grotsnik is in the army as everyone in the army can take cybork bodies if hes there)

3 distinct saves, only one of which ever applies as you only ever take the best save available

clear now?

[skarmek]

Thanks man. I appreciate it.

[moc065]

First off, mix up the nobs so that you can shove wounds were you like... all the same makes them easier to kill.. and trust me when I tell you that 5-6 in a turn can go down easy...

Here is what I mean.

EL - TR
(663) Knobs – 10: All have Bikes, Cybork bodies and Stikkbombs.
- Painboy wit his kit
- Waagh Banna Bum wit bare hands
- Klaw wit Slugga and da Boss pole
- Klaw wit Combi-Scorcha
- Klaw wit Slugga
- Big Choppa wit Combi-Scorcha
- Big Choppa wit Slugga
- Choppa wit Combi-Scorcha
- Choppa wit Slugga, ammo runt
- Choppa wit Slugga

No look at this...
EL - TR
(663) Knobs – 10: All have Bikes, Cybork bodies and Stikkbombs.
- Painboy wit his kit, ammo runt, and da Boss pole
- Waagh Banna Bum wit bare hands,
- Big Choppa wit Slugga
- Big Choppa wit Slugga
- Klaw wit Slugga
- Klaw wit Slugga
- Klaw wit Slugga
- Choppa wit Combi-Scorcha
- Choppa wit Combi-Scorcha
- Choppa wit Combi-Scorcha

The two units cost the same.. but unit one is way more resilient than unit 2... Trust me on this one, as Wound allocation can make a huge deal, and loosing the wrong guy early can cost you the unit.

Here is what you will face.
-- Mindwar Eldar that can remove your Painboy (so much for FNP)
-- Insta-kill weapons that splat dudes outright (so much for that expensive klaw, etc.. )
-- Teams that are dedicated to removeing Orker Bike Nobs, or any other Nob unit for that matter (trust, me when I say this.. as I face too many Nobs to not gear up for them).. Smoke Screen is good for 4+ save; but things like Fire Dragon teams put out enough high str fire to remove several figures with insta-kills... and their dirt cheap, so you may face several units of them at once...

Next point... Having 3 HQ is illigal, so forget dat idear. GONE ~ Thanks.

Next point... Having almost no units is not a "No brainer ~ game Winner" and here is why... some opponents like the fact that you will only ever be able to focus on a very few of their units, so they will feed you the wrong units, while the right units work on wasting you outright... Did that make sense... So what you killed a unit of Gun Drones, now eat the 5 Fusion Gun shots that the Paranha bring to bear on you... "Says the Tau General as he laughs" and then opens up with some more shooting from all over the Table... Granting in KP missions your onthe right track.. but you still have MO games to win too...so why limit yourself to 2 scoring units.

Final Point.. although there are several other things I could get into... All bikes is not a "Guarenteed win".. as you cannot Trubo through terrain (can't even enter it if you trubo) so smart opponets will herd you... And there are other small nuaunsis that your missing with your attempt to power game with da Orks.. I suggest you go get some balance in there, as most of the Ork Codex can work very well... think through the little things, and then fire yer idears back at us.

CaHG

[Raktra (So long, I guess)]

Well those Grey Knights may be short on numbers, but they will certainly be able to punch a hole in this list with incinerators.

I'd say try and find points for Grots, so you at least have something to hold a home objective or be a distraction. Other high I close combat units will eat you alive, especially if they get there first (Death Company, winged MCs etc).