First off, 40k is a fictional universe and, as such, is subject to "suspension of disbelief". This means that we're not talking about reality, or whatever an individual determines as reality and that also includes matters of personal faith or organised religion. In other words, do not take any comments in any thread dealing with religion to heart or, for that matter, to soul,
suman-ami,
ka or whatever. It's a game that, admittedly, people draw from the real world either directly or caricature.
So, if you take offence at any comments that may be considered blasphemy, heresy, worthy of a jihad, or whatever, then perhaps this is not the thread for you. I doubt that I'm going to say anything of that ilk, but it's worth covering your bases!
Just wondering if I am right, I don't think Khanie, the laughing god, Khorne, Tzeenctch , Murgle, Slaneesh are gods, for one gods cannot die...
Depends on the faith, as subsequently pointed out. In terms of the 40k 'fluff' gods do appear to die or, for me, get changed from one form to another. (This is the "Greatest Secret" in reference to the eldar gods, but that's a story for another thread.) Heck, you can even see it in organised religions in one form or another. The big JC, for example, died. He just got better again.
(Okay, maybe a bit of blasphemy there.)
...the only way is that there was no worshipers...
In terms of the 'fluff', remember that Khaine was (if you believe the superficial intepretation) affected - wounded, corrupted - by the death of Kaelis-Ra/Nightbringer. If something can be wounded, it can be killed. Everything else is a matter of
scale.
So if they were all enetitys would it be possilbe that Jehovah still exists?
Or that it is changed from one from to another because of altering worship, organised religion, etc. One should always remember that religions have a tendency of changing the nature of their own particular deity!
but due to the Nazi like communism that the IMperium enforces that no one worships him anymore so that he is forgotten?
Or that it/whatever never existed, and was bit a fragmentary imagination of a short period of time.
I would say that they aren't gods anyway since its fictional.
Of course, one could say reality does not provide the validity... Okay, I'll stop there. Again, it's a game. Let's not get mired in personal opinions on religion. They always send threads into degeneration!
And all the eldar gods are dead, as in the bodies that they used to manifest themselves in.
Well, the full physical manifestation of the eldar gods is a somewhat later addition to the 'fluff', and arguably a poor one at that. Furthermore, it can be seen in many different lights. For me there is no such thing as 'full physical manifestation', but rather the investment of an
avatar with a measure of the power of the god. Funnily enough that is practically the description of an avatar!
Its more slaanesh was killing khaines worshipers, so slaanesh killed many eldar, well khaine tried to keep himself worshiped by the remaining eldar.
Well, the original 'fluff' had the fight between Slaanesh (since it was an eldar god) and Khorne (since it was a 'war' god) and that, during the fight, Khaine 'drifted down through the warp' where he subsequently 'fractured' and took residence in the heart of the craftworlds... Or the soul of an eldar. It all depends on what edition of the 'fluff' you read.
Anyone being with that power level and with the ability to gift their followers with that level of dedicated abilities, could easily be considered Gods.
And, indeed, it depends on the perspective of the people calling the shots as to what is a 'god' and what is not, in just the same way as on another thread the whole Clarke quote was brought up with regards to technology.
When you destroy their followers, all Gods die.
Although in 40k they might slumber...
Kage
