You are making claims I never made though....I never said you could not compare the star cannon to the plasma cannon, to say otherwise is untrue.......thats what your claim is.
No, my claim is that you deny your opinion is flawed (which, if you disagree with you should challenge rather than ignore).
What I stated, why I personally compare the star cannon to the heavy bolter is because I use the star cannon mainly in my army as anti infantry, well I consider the heavy bolter mainly as anti infantry as well
Then you aren't playign to teh Starcannon's strengths. it is an anti-Heavy Infantry and light tank weapon, use it how you want but that is it's purpose and what it is best at killing. And you didn;t state that, your claim was the you chose the Heavy Bolter as it was more common than the Plasma Cannon, so you have contradicted yourself.
....you are free to disagree with my logic on that as you wish....But to say my comparison is flawed and inaccurate is personally attacking me,
No, as we are not attacking
you we are challenging your opinion, and have given perfectly reasonable explainatiosn that you have yet to challenge beyond repeating your initial claim or telling us to read it.
how is my logic flawed in my personal comparison on a weapon I chose. How ?
We have gone over this several times, you want to compare a Starcannon's effectivenss then compare it to a weapon intended for the same role, as otheriwse it is not accurately portrayign it's capabilities.
TOS brought up the plasma can of worms, not me.....
And rightlyfull so as I have said before.
but another reason I personally compare the star cannon to the heavy bolter.....Is because most marine armies don't even use one.
That does not back up your claim at all for reasons I have stated above and previously. Want to judge whetehr the Starcannon is balanced? They compare it to similar weapons, not weapons equally numerous.
They use heavy bolters, and assault cannons. The Plasma cannon is mainly for MC's and some vehicles, but its not really necessary
No, it's just mostly considered ineffective for it's points cost and (for infantry) the risk of overheating.
.....Another reason I personally compare the heavy bolter to the star cannon, is because the heavy bolter can also at least glance most vehicles side
So can a Plasma Cannon, your point?
.......Now if you want to call my logic flawed and say my comparisons are wrong based on your opinion, but TOS, Nor you said it was based on your opinions
It isn't though. It is based on logic and reaosnign which you have not even attempted to directly refute.
......It was factual in your minds.....In other words, you, nor he ever said my comparison was flawed or wrong in ya'll's opinion......It was a personal attack......just stating I was dead wrong.....
We have stated it is flawed and we have backed up our arguments, somethign you have not done or have simply repeated after we have subsequently pointed out the holes in your 'back up's.
I pesonally think the logic why I chose to do the comparison between the star cannon vs the heavy bolter is the better choice
Well I don;t for reasons I have said before and will likely say again.
at least it is for me......You however, and TOS may compare it to the plasma cannon if you wish, and I never said otherwise......Does that clear it up enough.
Doesn;t change my stance at all, as the Plasma Cannon is the logical comparison for hwop good the Starcannon is, and you have doen nothing to refute our claims while we (or at least I) have repeatedly done so to yours, with you just repeating yourself.
Because that is basically really all I ever said.
And that is the problem, you have not challenged our refutations, only tried to back up your argument, which we have then refuted again.
~MTWC