Topic: (HM)1000 pts pure grey knight army list (newbie)

[Skeeno M]

Ive just startd a pure grey knights army and need to know if my army list is any good so any advice will be appreciated 

so here it is.......

HQ
(deep striking)
Brother captain w/           
scourging
master crafted weapon
icon of the just   
         &
3 terminator retinue       = 259pts

TROOPS

7 grey knights and justicar in PA w/melta bomb (justicar only) & teleport homer=235

7 grey knights and justicar in PA w/melata bomb (justicar only) & teleport homer=235

                                   = 470pts

HEAVY SUPPORT

dreadnought w/
lascannon
missile launcher
blessed (facing chaos regularly)
extra armour
smoke launchers = 158

dreadnought w/
assault cannon
power claw w/storm bolter
extra armour
smoke launchers=118

                                     =276pts

TOTAL
1005

can i also ask a question

is the assault cannon the same as the space marine one with the rending stat?bcause its different in the DH codex

and does the grey knights land raider have the power of the machine spirit special rule?

[Gold Blade of the Emperor]

I think that the scourging on the BC is a waste of points.  He already has a SB.  Scourging has a shorter range, only 1 more str and maybe more shots.  When weighed against a PotW test, its just not worth the 20 pts. 

Jake

[Grand Master Rex Nihilo]

HQ
(deep striking)
Brother captain w/           
scourging
master crafted weapon
icon of the just   
         &
3 terminator retinue       

At 1000 points you'll likely not need IotJ for the points you already have a 5++ with the Terminator Armour.

Scourging is poor, if you want ranged fire go PsyCannon.

MC weapon is good but again not necessarily at 1000 points.

7 grey knights and justicar in PA w/melta bomb (justicar only) & teleport homer=235
7 grey knights and justicar in PA w/melata bomb (justicar only) & teleport homer=235

Good, consider Frags and Targetter if you have a few extra points

dreadnought w/
lascannon
missile launcher
blessed (facing chaos regularly)
extra armour
smoke launchers = 158

Blessed is handy when facing CHAOS!!

dreadnought w/
assault cannon
power claw w/storm bolter
extra armour
smoke launchers=118

Good also, but beware of its range limitations.

is the assault cannon the same as the space marine one with the rending stat?bcause its different in the DH codex

Yes, it is the same as in the SM codex, go rending!!

and does the grey knights land raider have the power of the machine spirit special rule?

Yes, it does!!


Rob

[Master Bio-Titan BT]

Change your weapons on your Dreads with Assualt Cannon and ML on both of them and have them mass shoot at a high threat infantry (frag) units or vehicles(krak).  Assualt cannons are better at Anti-tank than the Lascannons!  ML to mop up the rest.  DCCW are a rarety to see engaged in CC as they typically die first.  I personally have never had my Dreads in CC, truly, NEVER!

By the way, your BC/GKT retinue needs to have 1 more GKT in it.  A BC does not count toward the squad size so losing 2 GKT would hurt you from counting as scouring and if you had 4 GKT it would require that 3 die.

[Skeeno M]

Thanks for all the advice ,so with the advice in hand i redid my army list

so here it is......

HQ

Brother captain & 3 grey Knight terminator retinue w/ frag granades & auspex                    =208pts

TROOPS

7 grey Knights & justicar w/melta bomb(justicar only),teleport homer,and frag grenades-247

7 grey Knights & justicar w/melta bomb(justicar only),teleport homer,and frag grenades-247                     =494pts

HEAVY SUPPORT

dreadnought w/
lascannon
missile launcher
blessed
extra armour
smoke launchers = 158

dreadnought w/
assault cannon
missile launcher
blessed
extra armour
smoke launchers=138
                                       =296pts
TOTAL

998pts
         

[Gold Blade of the Emperor]

I like this list much better except models in Term Armor cannot have frag grenades.  I would suggest using the few extra pts to give your justicar's targeters.

Jake

[Skeeno M]

oops sorry i didnt know terminators cant hav frag grenades 

[Master Bio-Titan BT]

Are you playing agianst Chaos with this list?  If not, then remove Blessed from your Dreads!

Also, since you are playing a low point game are you then playing on a 4x4' table?  If so, please switch your Lascannon from your Dread to an Assault Cannon, PLEASE!  You will thank me!

You also cannont take an Auspex either, IIRC!  Make sure that one of your GKTs' has a ThunderHammer/SS combo in case you need to assualt a vehicle or a big bad baddie with high T.  This wil also make that model unable to attack back.

[Gold Blade of the Emperor]

And also regarding the auspex, if you are planning on have the Terms DS (which I assume you are becuase of the homers) then its kind of silly to give the BC an auspex too as it will do nothing.  Giving auspexs to your GK Justicars is not a bad idea however.

Jake