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The Discussion Board / Re: The Queen
« Last post by PaxImperatrix on September 25, 2022, 01:59:19 AM »
The British royal family surely does add revenue from tourism. The same study I linked to however also rates the British monarchy as 'poorly transparent'. That's better than Spain ('not transparent') but worse than the Netherlands and Norway ('relatively transparent'). The British monarchy could have any number of hidden costs so I'd be wary of making any definite claims about its financial costs and benefits. The same of course goes for the others to a greater or lesser extent.

For an additional data point, here's a seemingly less thoroughly researched but more recent newspiece about the costs of European monarchies. It takes the official numbers given on the various royal families' websites at face value, which come to: UK $107M, Netherlands $49M, Norway $49M, Spain $9M. That's an especially big increase for the UK, which makes me more suspicious of the €45M cost stated on Wikipedia. Spain's number is consistently and suspiciously low.
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The Discussion Board / Re: The Queen
« Last post by Grand Master Lomandalis on September 24, 2022, 11:33:58 AM »
I heard that Canada was able to codify a constitution without removing the monarchy, and it seems like they're not having the overdone pageantry. Might that be a best of both worlds solution?

Perhaps the UK could depose the Windsors and recognise the House of Orange-Nassau as their lawful sovereigns? Wouldn't cost you a penny and I'm sure they'd be happy to sit on a throne in England again. :)

On a slightly more serious note, there's apparently a monarchy available at every price point, from a relatively modest € 8 million (Spain) all the way up to € 51 million (Norway). I suspect those figures may not be entirely reliable or comparable. It was especially surprising to me how much pomp and circumstance the British get out of their € 45 million budget compared to the Dutch € 41 million budget.
What I find interesting about that link is that the British Royal family has the second highest cost at €45 million, but is the second lowest in terms of cost for the tax payers at €0.70.  I guess that really does lend credence to the idea that their holdings bring in a significant revenue from tourism.
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The Discussion Board / Re: The Queen
« Last post by PaxImperatrix on September 24, 2022, 01:15:21 AM »
Our monarchy has a higher budget than Spain's?

That's WILD.

Yes, there must be different accounting methods at play here or something.

I will say this though: not a lot of pageantry over here, at least not when compared to the Brits. Although I did hand King Harald a bouquet of wildflowers once when I was in elementary, so that was pretty fancy.

Better than my memory of being shunted out of the way by photojournalists as a toddler when then-Queen Beatrix visited my town. Didn't so much as catch a glimpse of her. Scum of the earth, photojournalists.
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The Discussion Board / Re: The Queen
« Last post by Sir_Godspeed on September 23, 2022, 10:42:43 PM »
I heard that Canada was able to codify a constitution without removing the monarchy, and it seems like they're not having the overdone pageantry. Might that be a best of both worlds solution?

Perhaps the UK could depose the Windsors and recognise the House of Orange-Nassau as their lawful sovereigns? Wouldn't cost you a penny and I'm sure they'd be happy to sit on a throne in England again. :)

On a slightly more serious note, there's apparently a monarchy available at every price point, from a relatively modest € 8 million (Spain) all the way up to € 51 million (Norway). I suspect those figures may not be entirely reliable or comparable. It was especially surprising to me how much pomp and circumstance the British get out of their € 45 million budget compared to the Dutch € 41 million budget.

Our monarchy has a higher budget than Spain's?

That's WILD.

We have like one royal palace and some country estates with a smattering of vehicles associated with them. We do not have extended titles of nobility (no royal cousins becoming dukes or anything) either.

There's obviously a lot of costs when it comes to the the maintenance of old buildings and the costs of security and the royal guard, but I can't imagine we have more of that then the Spanish. Huh.

I will say this though: not a lot of pageantry over here, at least not when compared to the Brits. Although I did hand King Harald a bouquet of wildflowers once when I was in elementary, so that was pretty fancy.
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Art & Fiction / Re: A Sanctum of Swords: Quick Update
« Last post by Myen'Tal on September 23, 2022, 09:25:30 AM »
Quick Update here - post-manuscript evaluation revisions have reached 50%.

I’ve reached Chapter 12 for my current revisions, and am planning to finish the chapter before too long.

Word count is constant flux between 100,000 - and 110,000 during the process so far. I've streamlined and replaced a lot of the content in older chapters. I've chosen to entirely replace a few chapters as well in some cases and have made additional ones too.

I am adhering as close to the current overall narrative arc where possible. My focus isn't on creating new plot devices, but fleshing out the depth, context, stakes, and character narratives already established in the rough draft. Basically, my focus is on creating a more expansive narrative off the - skeletal bones of the rough draft.

Dialogue and dialogue tags, scene-by-scene streamlining of descriptions, and a revamp of sentence structure line by line are other efforts I am focused on from my part. And then the editor can go on what I've learned and implemented when the rest of the editing process is underway.

I am also placing a much larger emphasis on character narrative and interaction. This includes an expansion on the perspectives, narratives, and roles of both support and secondary characters to strengthen their overall presence and mark on the manuscript as a whole.

Also - keep watch on this thread between mid-October and November - another illustration is soon to get underway!

That is all for now!
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The Discussion Board / Re: The Queen
« Last post by The GrimSqueaker on September 22, 2022, 06:48:04 PM »
We mock the pageantry but learning some of the reasons behind it are fun. Like how the coffin is carried by a gun carriage pulled by RN personnel. Queen Victoria just decided, beslubber it, slap my bones on a gun carriage. On the day of her funeral it was so cold the horses pulling it got a bit annoyed and nearly toppled the thing so the RN leapt in and started doing the job themselves. They also nicked off with the carriage at the end first as a trophy but now as tradition. It was officially awarded to them eventually.
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The Discussion Board / Re: The Queen
« Last post by PaxImperatrix on September 22, 2022, 12:31:50 PM »
I heard that Canada was able to codify a constitution without removing the monarchy, and it seems like they're not having the overdone pageantry. Might that be a best of both worlds solution?

Perhaps the UK could depose the Windsors and recognise the House of Orange-Nassau as their lawful sovereigns? Wouldn't cost you a penny and I'm sure they'd be happy to sit on a throne in England again. :)

On a slightly more serious note, there's apparently a monarchy available at every price point, from a relatively modest € 8 million (Spain) all the way up to € 51 million (Norway). I suspect those figures may not be entirely reliable or comparable. It was especially surprising to me how much pomp and circumstance the British get out of their € 45 million budget compared to the Dutch € 41 million budget.
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The Discussion Board / Re: The Queen
« Last post by The GrimSqueaker on September 21, 2022, 10:06:18 PM »
We don't need to have a House of Commons or anything so fancy. Parliament has to be introduced to the bill and have it read to them a few times, busy people you know, then off to the GG for the final salute.
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The Discussion Board / Re: The Queen
« Last post by Grand Master Lomandalis on September 21, 2022, 09:42:48 PM »
Our government works in much the same way that the British does in that our bills are passed by the House of Commons and need royal ascent. Here, that is given by the Governor General and not by the Queen King.

That's basically how Kiwiland works as well.
Think all Commonwealth nations that have a Parliament do lol
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The Discussion Board / Re: The Queen
« Last post by The GrimSqueaker on September 21, 2022, 05:56:38 PM »
Our government works in much the same way that the British does in that our bills are passed by the House of Commons and need royal ascent. Here, that is given by the Governor General and not by the Queen King.

That's basically how Kiwiland works as well.
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