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Offline Ukko-mon

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How to use Airbrush ...
« on: April 10, 2002, 11:30:58 AM »
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  • i havent use Airbrush for some time now (dont have the space & way to messy) :P

    Actuly, gamesworkshop Paint is not maide for airbrush.

    -Your tips will try up whit pain all the time
    -will be to watery
    -will mix badly

    what you need is to buy Model car paint (for remote control cars). (acrelic)

    now carfull, that stuff can smell bad!!! (well mine did, but damm good paint) :-X

    but you will get the best of effects  ;D

    i recomend airbrush for a few things only:

    -making the first cover of a large model
    -Make blending
    -Jewels (when you get good at it)
    -Primer
    -First basic color (like a blood angel)

    to get beter at your airbrush , get a large peace of something Flat & practice a few days.

    Thats all i can say for now... ask your questions
    i did do Airbrush for 6 years so, im not a total idiot in it.

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    Re:How to use Airbrush ...
    « Reply #1 on: April 10, 2002, 02:20:15 PM »
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  • You have realize that airbrush colours no matter what type are extremely thin but very opaque I use them for washes. Personally Vajello are extremly good for airbrushes as they are very thin and smooth and are very opaque.
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    Re:How to use Airbrush ...
    « Reply #2 on: April 10, 2002, 03:03:54 PM »
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  • I use both types of paint in my brush and haven't had alot of trouble out of either one. I did learn early on that Citadels need alot of Flo-Aid to get them thin enough but they dry up fine and look good.

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    Re:How to use Airbrush ...
    « Reply #3 on: April 10, 2002, 03:04:37 PM »
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  • true

    This is the kind of airBrush i like, needle is small & undear, ezy to clean, less control on the size, you have to change it all the time, but lot less messy:

    http://www.dickblick.com/zz250/05/products.asp?param=0&ig_id=1503

    i personly stay away from Airbrush whit long needles that are inside of the airbrush it self
    there messy & the needles are ezy to damage, & once dammge, trow it away... & there costy.

    oh & also, in Airbrush, i have 6 sort of color, i just do mix for what color i want =)
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    Re:How to use Airbrush ...
    « Reply #4 on: April 12, 2002, 04:37:12 PM »
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  • Ah, you have chosen a topic near and dear to me - my everfaithful airbrush.

    First off, I can vouch that citadel paint can be fired thru an airbrush (albeit very thinned), I do it regualrly. What you need to look for in an airbrush for modeling purposes is a good single action heavy-weight brush. I personally use a Pasche F1 for things like blends on outstretched swords and an H series for vehicles. These are my work-horses. Both of these are bottom fed, single action (push the button and paint) and have a hella wide flow from the cup to the tip which makes of easy clean-up and a minimum of clogs. Good for beginers and inexpensive too (my F1 cost $29!)

    I also own 2, double action side feed guns for my illustration work and would never entertain the idea of using them for model work as their parts are much too fine for heavy viscosity paints. I mostly use inks and gouches in these.

    The single most important piece of equipment is a good air compressor. You need at least a 4 gallon tank that can shoot a minimum of 60 psi and prefferably as high as 120 psi. Most beginners get frustrated with the grainy efect that cheap "airbrush" pumps cause. A high pressure spray makes for a much smoother effect overall. I have an 8 gallon compressor I bought from Sears. It has good capacity and delivers a good constant 60-80 psi flow. It ran me about $250 (I do use it for other things too), but a small 2-4 gallon compressor will cost $85-$125.

    Here's an example of my airbrushed models.


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    Re:How to use Airbrush ...
    « Reply #5 on: April 13, 2002, 07:13:39 AM »
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  • Yup, thats what im talking about  ;D

    my only Problome is space for me. i dont have a good space where i live now, so i do it out side... finaly summer is here  :D

    i wont be doing any tanks soon i think, but i will be doing basic paint whit it ( i'm gething my 16 guardians ready)

    if i hade the space, i woud probably do most my work whit airbrush ( i use to doBikes & t-shirts)

    i mist my guarage *sniff*
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    Re:How to use Airbrush ...
    « Reply #6 on: April 13, 2002, 01:11:17 PM »
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  • Eldanesh, those are so SCHEWEET! Would YOU be willing to do a tutorial piece for 40K Konversions on using an airbrush for vehicle finishing?
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    Re:How to use Airbrush ...
    « Reply #7 on: April 16, 2002, 12:00:00 PM »
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  • GARETH: No problem. What do you want me to do?

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    Re:How to use Airbrush ...
    « Reply #8 on: April 16, 2002, 01:00:20 PM »
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  • Eld I almost agree 100% exceptfor the single action... I use dual action on all my models, not just my larger ones. Never had problems either.. sure it takes alot more to be able to use a dual on models, but then again, after doing technical for 7 years I would never use a single action for anything but basecoats.

    Compressor is very important as mentioned above, also keep in mind you MUST have a moisture trap and a good regulator.

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    Re:How to use Airbrush ...
    « Reply #9 on: April 16, 2002, 03:35:38 PM »
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  • McCOPPEL: For my Illustration work I use a Badger and a Thayer Chandler double action guns. Even with a flow aid thinner I'd be sketchy about shooting Citadel paints thru those. GW paint in general dries really "plastic" and I'd be cleaning my real expensive dual actions more than I'd be painting  :-\ My big Pasches work much better for models, eaiser to clean and the nozzles practically work like a dual action anyway.

    Go check 'em out here in the single action section.

    http://www.paascheairbrush.com/
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    Re:How to use Airbrush ...
    « Reply #10 on: April 16, 2002, 03:43:44 PM »
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  • I use a Paasche H type, syphon fed external mix for base coat work.  Works pretty well I must say.  I do have a question though, what is the difference between the external mix Paasche's and the internal mix Paasche's?  
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    Re:How to use Airbrush ...
    « Reply #11 on: April 16, 2002, 03:49:32 PM »
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  • hi,

    i am a novice at airbrushes. I am only just wanting one and i think i'll get one. What one do you recommend. COuld you tell me the URL to it, not just the domain. Also what aircanaster thingy url
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    Re:How to use Airbrush ...
    « Reply #12 on: April 16, 2002, 05:42:26 PM »
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  • Actually I use a sotar 20 and 20-1 and never have problems getting acrylics through them with decent coverage. But I run high pressure into the brushes.

    Also I think your right in the fact I probably would never be able to get GW paint through them.. Why I don't use or suggest using it, Its way to thick, must be x-high viscosity.

    Anyways, even when I use to use single action I would open the ends and push the needles.. Probably something you also do..

    To each there own and since we both use air brushes alot, for hobbies and real life work then it's nice to hear both perspectives... I'd love to talk to ya and see the differences in our work styles..

    Later
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    Re:How to use Airbrush ...
    « Reply #13 on: April 16, 2002, 10:56:53 PM »
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  • if you want to start to airbursh

    get any CHEAP airbrush ... if you like it, then start spending money for one, not befor =)
    Nothing say more "Im here" that a colorfull Mini!
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