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2k brigade with custom craftworld and Exarch powers.
« on: October 24, 2019, 08:59:12 AM »
I felt the need to build a list with the new customizable stuff in Phoenix rising: Psychic awakening and I would like some thoughts about it:

Custom Brigade (expert craftsmen, superior shuriken)

HQ
Farseer skyrunner 132
Smite, mind war, executioner
Warlock skyrunner 67
Crushing orb, quicken/restrain
Autarch skyrunner 127 WARLORD (mark of the incomparable hunter)
Reaper Launcher, laser lance, banshee mask, phoenix gem.

TROOPS
5x Dire Avengers 58
Exarch, 2x ASC. Shredding fire
5x Dire Avengers 58
Exarch, 2x ASC. Shredding fire
5x Dire Avengers 58
Exarch, 2x ASC. Shredding fire
5x Dire Avengers 58
Exarch, 2x ASC. Shredding fire
10x Guardians 95
Shurican platform.
8x Storm Guardians 62
fusion gun.

ELITE
5x Howling Banshees 68
Exarch, executioner. Decapitating strike
5x Striking Scorpions 108
Exarch, scorpions claw. Stalker
5x Fire Dragons 120
Exarch, DBF. Swift step

FAST
5x Swooping Hawks 68
Exarch, hawks talon. Swooping barrage
5x Warp Spiders 90
Exarch, 2x deathspinners, Powerblades. Surprise assault
3x Shining spears 101
Exarch, star lance. Skilled Rider

HEAVY
War Walker 80
2x Bright lances
War Walker 80
2x Bright lances
War Walker 80
2x Bright lances

FLYER
Hemlock wraithfighter 210
(impair senses, jinx)

TRANSPORT
Wave Serpent 139
twin shuricans, twin catapults.
Wave Serpent 139
twin shuricans, twin catapults.

1998p

Edit: Fixed some points errors, and removed some extras to rebalance the points.
Edit2: Dropped reapers for war walkers, psykers now have bikes and the autarch is a better sniper. Mostly for more durability. Catapults will be enough with bonus range on the serpents.
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Re: 2k brigade with custom craftworld and Exarch powers.
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2019, 10:18:35 PM »
I haven't got to see the book yet but your list looks good except the squads are so small but that also means your opponent needs to figure out what to do. The one thing I noticed, that is going to help me out, is the autarch gets banshee mask again.
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Re: 2k brigade with custom craftworld and Exarch powers.
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2019, 04:23:52 AM »
The index Autarch is a bit more expensive but is allowed either the banshee mask or the mandiblasters for free. Since the Autarch can't get a banshee mask in the codex, nor 2x Avenger shuriken catapults, using the index entry is fair.
I could still give the autarch laser lance or fusion gun or reaper launcher to make the most of the expert craftsmen.

I won't write out the whole rule, but it's great for one or few shot weapons once for every unit.

So I'm also considering taking a fusion gun on the stormies.

10x shuriken shots at increased range sniping characters with the autarch is not bad though.

I'm also not sold on the warlock witch allows for the seer council stratagem, a jetlock or spiritseer would be more resistant to perils and just more durable in general.
I'm not sure where to get those points but ditching the reapers for more war walkers is a simple option for me though.

Edit: Ouf, it's slow on this site these days :( I've got a fair look at the chapter approved 2019 now and this list will be 87 points cheaper.
Striking Scorpions seems to be the new unit in favor, I wonder if the next box will plastic Scorpions with Karandras.
They now get their mandiblasters and power armour for free, comparred to a Guardian defender, they still have to pay for the chainsword though, but are obviously not objective secure.
« Last Edit: December 3, 2019, 06:49:05 AM by Fenris »
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Re: 2k brigade with custom craftworld and Exarch powers.
« Reply #3 on: December 5, 2019, 04:50:39 AM »
Ill point out, you need to look at this again as Legends has changed points values and relegated stuff to legends. and all the autarch wargear is now to be included in the codex options.
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Re: 2k brigade with custom craftworld and Exarch powers.
« Reply #4 on: December 5, 2019, 06:16:43 AM »
Yes, I will probably have to remake the whole list.
I'm not sure I want to play  at 2k points anymore, there is too many models to move so a game takes forever.
I goofed around a bit and actually managed a brigade in 1k points, not many upgrades though:

Warlock
Warlock

8x Stormies
5x Avengers
5x Avengers
5x Avengers
5x Avengers
5x Rangers

5x Scorpions
5x Scorpions
5x Banshees

5x Hawks
5x Spiders
3x Spears

Walker, twin BL.
Walker, twin BL.
Walker, twin BL.

1000p on the nose.
Not sure if those walkers have to pay for each bright lance or if then are allowed to buy them as a pair.


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Re: 2k brigade with custom craftworld and Exarch powers.
« Reply #5 on: December 7, 2019, 06:19:20 AM »
Looks to me like there are only 2 HQs: 2 Warlocks. Isn't Brigade 3 HQs minimum?
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Re: 2k brigade with custom craftworld and Exarch powers.
« Reply #6 on: December 7, 2019, 07:38:48 PM »
@blazinghand: Yes, it does, my bad, it is still possible if I ditch the bright lances on the war walkers for something cheaper.

I have been looking for some formations that may work if combined well too:
Biel-tan Battalion 528p:
Asurmen
Warlock, spirit stone of anath-lan [Protect/Jinx]
3x10x Dire avengers, avenging strikes

or an Ynnari vanguard (morai-heg, hunters of ancient relics) 422p:
Karandras
3x10x Striking Scorpions, claw


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Re: 2k brigade with custom craftworld and Exarch powers.
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2019, 02:38:03 PM »
@blazinghand: Yes, it does, my bad, it is still possible if I ditch the bright lances on the war walkers for something cheaper.

I have been looking for some formations that may work if combined well too:
Biel-tan Battalion 528p:
Asurmen
Warlock, spirit stone of anath-lan [Protect/Jinx]
3x10x Dire avengers, avenging strikes

or an Ynnari vanguard (morai-heg, hunters of ancient relics) 422p:
Karandras
3x10x Striking Scorpions, claw




Honestly I would run the Asurmen/Avengers battalion with +shuriken range and ignore cover bonuses. Then give the Avengers the extra hits ability.

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Re: 2k brigade with custom craftworld and Exarch powers.
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2019, 07:14:21 PM »
Yes, +range for shuriken is nice, but in that case I might just give them the better cover save, that way they have a 3+/4++ and with protect 2+/3++.

The idea with Biel- tan was hitting on 2+ re-rolling 1's with avenging strikes, then rending on 5+, meanwhile casting protect on any unit in Avenge mode.

Another idea is a supreme command (764p): (children of prophesy, warding runes)
Yvraine
Farseer
10x warlocks in conclave, all spears
mount all in a Wave serpent and cloudstrike it.
Essentially using the Serpent as a drop pod.

Oh, and the vibrocastle (388p): (expert crafters, students of vaul)
Autarch
3x Vibrocannons
3x Vibrocannons
3x Vibrocannons
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