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Offline Dread

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I need help with a 1500 pt tournament list
« on: September 26, 2019, 10:55:21 PM »
I really want to play my Harli's in a tournament but not sure what would work best. I know there will be at least 2 ad mech players, 1 chaos and a hand full of different flavored space marines. Here is what I have concocted so far, any help appreciated.


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Harlequins) [74 PL, 1,498pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Masque Form: The Frozen Stars: Hysterical Fury

+ HQ +

Shadowseer [7 PL, 135pts]: Mirror of Minds, Neuro Disruptor, Shards of Light

Shadowseer [7 PL, 135pts]: Neuro Disruptor

Troupe Master [4 PL, 84pts]: Frozen Stars: Our Kin Shall Rise Again, Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss, Warlord
. Cegorach's Rose

+ Troops +

Troupe [5 PL, 114pts]
. Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss
. Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss
. Player: Harlequin's Kiss, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol

Troupe [5 PL, 114pts]
. Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss
. Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss
. Player: Harlequin's Kiss, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol

Troupe [5 PL, 114pts]
. Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss
. Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss
. Player: Harlequin's Kiss, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol

Troupe [5 PL, 114pts]
. Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss
. Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss
. Player: Harlequin's Kiss, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol

+ Elites +

Death Jester [3 PL, 45pts]

Death Jester [3 PL, 45pts]

+ Fast Attack +

Skyweavers [4 PL, 92pts]
. Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive
. Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive

Skyweavers [4 PL, 92pts]
. Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive
. Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive

+ Heavy Support +

Voidweaver [6 PL, 108pts]: Prismatic Cannon, 2x Shuriken Cannon

Voidweaver [6 PL, 108pts]: Prismatic Cannon, 2x Shuriken Cannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Starweaver [5 PL, 99pts]: 2x Shuriken Cannon

Starweaver [5 PL, 99pts]: 2x Shuriken Cannon

++ Total: [74 PL, 1,498pts] ++

Or......


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Harlequins) [75 PL, 1,494pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Masque Form: The Frozen Stars: Hysterical Fury

+ HQ +

Shadowseer [7 PL, 135pts]: Mirror of Minds, Neuro Disruptor, Shards of Light

Shadowseer [7 PL, 125pts]: Shuriken Pistol

Troupe Master [4 PL, 84pts]: Frozen Stars: Our Kin Shall Rise Again, Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss, Warlord
. Cegorach's Rose

+ Troops +

Troupe [5 PL, 114pts]
. Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss
. Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss
. Player: Harlequin's Kiss, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol

Troupe [5 PL, 114pts]
. Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss
. Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss
. Player: Harlequin's Kiss, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol

Troupe [5 PL, 114pts]
. Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss
. Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss
. Player: Harlequin's Kiss, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol

Troupe [5 PL, 114pts]
. Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss
. Player: Fusion Pistol, Harlequin's Kiss
. Player: Harlequin's Kiss, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol
. Player: Harlequin's Caress, Shuriken Pistol

+ Elites +

Death Jester [3 PL, 45pts]

Death Jester [3 PL, 45pts]

Solitaire [5 PL, 98pts]: Harlequin's Caress, Harlequin's Kiss

+ Fast Attack +

Skyweavers [4 PL, 92pts]
. Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive
. Skyweaver: Shuriken Cannon, Zephyrglaive

+ Heavy Support +

Voidweaver [6 PL, 108pts]: Prismatic Cannon, 2x Shuriken Cannon

Voidweaver [6 PL, 108pts]: Prismatic Cannon, 2x Shuriken Cannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Starweaver [5 PL, 99pts]: 2x Shuriken Cannon

Starweaver [5 PL, 99pts]: 2x Shuriken Cannon

++ Total: [75 PL, 1,494pts] ++

I only own 2 star weavers. Being a tourney I can't proxy any venoms.

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Re: I need help with a 1500 pt tournament list
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2019, 06:42:23 AM »
In the first list:

I'd consider taking 2 squads with all kisses, and 2 squads with all caresses, if you plan to take that ratio of kiss:caress. The reason for this is that usually kisses want to aim at multi-wound units like Intercessors and such, whereas Caresses want to aim at single-wound-model units, so you may want to be able to direct your stuff to the best targets.

I'd consider merging the skyweaver units so you can benefit better from stratagems and such on them. I would also consider the option of haywire guns on them and your voidweavers to get a bit more anti-tank punch. Voidweavers don't have great damage output, though: I've had trouble getting them to work well for me this edition.

I'm also concerned that you seem to have 4 troupes but only 2 starweavers. What are the other 2 troupes going to do? Maybe instead of taking 2 void weavers, you should take 2 more starweavers, so that everyone has a vehicle to ride in.

For the second list, a lot of the same criticisms apply: I'm not sure how the third and fourth troupe units are getting into melee where they can chop things up. The Solitaire is a nice choice, but if you're taking him, he should definitely have Cegorach's Rose instead of your Troupe Master, as combined with his abilities it's much more likely he can put it to good use.

If you absolutely can't assemble 2 more starweavers, or convert your voidweavers in time, I'd merge the 2 5-elf troupes that are on foot into a single 10-elf troupe, then rely on the Webway Assault stratagem on page 70 to get them into a good position. This would be pretty scary for the opponent, and you'd have a chance to drop them into cover or something if there's a ruins nearby, and hope the survive to the next turn if they fail the charge. If you can have them arrive near a Warlord with Player of the Light, they have good odds of getting into melee on the turn they arrive.
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Re: I need help with a 1500 pt tournament list
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2019, 06:38:17 PM »
Thanks Blaze. Great advice. The nice thing is the tourney isn't til January so I have some time to craft the list as well as paint them up. I like the idea of 10 in a unit and will consider that. Also since the caress and kiss are same points just kisses all around.

I'm leaning more towards the solitaire list and, wow, yes adding the rose to him will be so much better,,I'd not caught that, thanks.

So I'm converting my heavies to transports. Since I can put the shadowseers in with the troops and opened top to boot. This seems like a great idea. Let ya know how it works next time I get to play.

*******update******
So the tourney won't be til February and the points got moved up to 1750. Also about to get 2 more star weavers and some more troops.
« Last Edit: November 2, 2019, 09:39:18 PM by Dread »
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