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I知 new and I want to create a Eldar army.
« on: June 4, 2018, 05:46:36 AM »
So far, I知 interested in Biel Tam (I think that痴 the name, the one with the hoverbikes/wraiths) Saim Hann, that's the one I meant. Thanks for correcting me Grizzlykin! :)
It will be my first army, if I choose to get it.
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Re: I知 new and I want to create a Eldar army.
« Reply #1 on: June 4, 2018, 06:41:01 AM »
What is your question exactly?

Biel-tan is a craftworld focused on using a lot of aspect units (even though the trait they receive isn't very well suited to that other than Dire Avengers). Not that you can't use some Windriders or Wraith units in such a list, but they're not specifically known for those units. Windriders with shuriken cannons (or even just twin catapults) and wraithlords with shuriken weapons can make great use of the Biel-tan shuriken trait though. Dire Avengers are always a good staple unit as well (and for the theme) as well as big units of Guardian Defenders.

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« Reply #2 on: June 4, 2018, 07:28:01 AM »
Welcome on-board to the eldar train  8)

Let me first correct you.
Jetbike mostly is Saim Han.
Wraith mostly is Iyanden.
Aspect warrior mostly is Bieltan.
Ranger and sneaky stuff mostly is Alaitoc.
And psyker + guardian mostly is Ulthwe.
Please keep in mind the above description is fluff only. Most army from most player will usually, if not build for fluff, strive for a certain archetype of combat that suit the player. Therefore you can find an healthy mix of a bit of everything. You as a player will need to find That archetype that suit you once you start playing.

Simple question, how much do you know about the game? That will shape what can do aswell.


OK so Jetbike and wraith. Defenetly a good base if you think about tournaments performance. It's a really good list for heavy fire power because that's mostly what these two unit brings to the table. They will be a good start for an army if you want to go for a kinda tournament build. The biggest problem you will have with such a build will be flexibility, especially because you will be low on command points.

If I could give you one advice with the first unit to buy for a new army. Take something you like. This units because it's you first buy is probably going to follow you for your whole gaming time. So from my opinion select something you like. For the pure beginner at least, that's my advice.


Well mate glad you chose eldar as your first army still it's a great army.

OH yeah I suggest you buy the codex if you are sure you want to play eldar read through it find things you like a built your army around that.

If you have any more precise question don't hesitate there will be plenty of people here to answer you :D

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Re: I知 new and I want to create a Eldar army.
« Reply #3 on: June 4, 2018, 10:00:02 AM »
What is your question exactly?

What should my army be and what should I "build it" for? So far, looking at the jetbikes.

Welcome on-board to the eldar train  8)

Let me first correct you.
Jetbike mostly is Saim Ham


Simple question, how much do you know about the game? That will shape what can do aswell.


OK so Jetbike and wraith. Defenetly a good base if you think about tournaments performance. It's a really good list for heavy fire power because that's mostly what these two unit brings to the table. They will be a good start for an army if you want to go for a kinda tournament build. The biggest problem you will have with such a build will be flexibility, especially because you will be low on command points.

If I could give you one advice with the first unit to buy for a new army. Take something you like. This units because it's you first buy is probably going to follow you for your whole gaming time. So from my opinion select something you like. For the pure beginner at least, that's my advice.

Well mate glad you chose eldar as your first army still it's a great army.

OH yeah I suggest you buy the codex if you are sure you want to play eldar read through it find things you like a built your army around that.

I have got the codex,rulebook, and the Chapter Approved. I know most of its lore (heard it's also called fluff). The jetbikes look the best for me which is why I chose them.

Thanks for the corrections though. Really helpful. ;D

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Re: I知 new and I want to create a Eldar army.
« Reply #4 on: June 4, 2018, 01:23:34 PM »
Ok, so if you're liking Jetbikes, it sounds as though Saim-Hann is the Craftworld for you. It's a good choice (although all of the Craftworlds on offer are at least competitive to some degree).

Next up, you need to let us know whether you want to play to win at all costs, whether it's more important that your army resembles the background (fluff), whether you just want to paint something and for it to look cool.

The good news is that the Eldar range of models and units supports all of that very well.

If you look to create a Saim-Hann host, then you're looking at a lot of Windrider Jetbikes, Shining Spears and units mounted in Wave Serpents as a starting point. It's a manoeuvrable army and can hit hard whilst avoiding the bulk of return fire.

Whichever way you go, you will find good support from the forum members. Welcome to the board.
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« Reply #5 on: June 4, 2018, 02:46:21 PM »
Ok, so if you're liking Jetbikes, it sounds as though Saim-Hann is the Craftworld for you. It's a good choice (although all of the Craftworlds on offer are at least competitive to some degree).

Next up, you need to let us know whether you want to play to win at all costs, whether it's more important that your army resembles the background (fluff), whether you just want to paint something and for it to look cool.

The good news is that the Eldar range of models and units supports all of that very well.

If you look to create a Saim-Hann host, then you're looking at a lot of Windrider Jetbikes, Shining Spears and units mounted in Wave Serpents as a starting point. It's a manoeuvrable army and can hit hard whilst avoiding the bulk of return fire.

Whichever way you go, you will find good support from the forum members. Welcome to the board.

I want to win at all costs, and look cool. But mostly winning.
Thanks for the advice!

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Re: I知 new and I want to create a Eldar army.
« Reply #6 on: June 4, 2018, 05:48:21 PM »
I want to win at all costs, and look cool. But mostly winning.
Thanks for the advice!

Ok good then we got a place to start then :)

Just an early reminder before we get into the meat of the answer.  as good as your list might be, 2 things will heavily weight on your gameplay no matter what. 1 Your strategie defenetly impact if you win, no question asked about that. 2 Luck got to be on your side aswell, it's game played with dice and card, therefore luck can be a big deciding factor in a win.

Also if you do not win immediatly, do not get upset and keep trying for a bit, you need to get used to the game mechanics your army and plenty of other things :) Let's get back on topic now.

I'm not really the guy you need to ask for pure competitive list, neither is it for jetbike as I'm more of a aspect warrior + tank kind of guy, plus I play for the fun of the game rather than the absolute win so my list are geared in that direction with what ever unit I like at the moment. BUT you will find plenty of very competitive and experienced player in this forum, just wait for them, they smell the newby (don't take it abdly please), they will come !


Next up let me ask you a few other questions :

-How experienced are you in wargaming. Did you play other tabletop games of the same spirit, warmachine, x-wing or what not?
-How experienced are you with modeling and painting?  Did you do other kind of things similar to this before? Or is it your first venture in the domaine. Do you pratice some kind of art on the side maybe that could be used as a foundation for your next step?
-It's a question I have to ask, are you more interested in the gaming and winning aspect or the modeling and painting one, so far I feel like it's more towards the gaming and winning that you lean but just in case let me ask.
-An other question I have to ask, sadly, how deep is your pocket. Because what ever you wish to do this is an expensive hobby. A really expensive one, therefore you really need to be sure where you want to go before you play. (This is a facultive question it's just so that we can direct you toward a proper way of buying you minis based on that, if you feel uncomfortable answering that one, you are totally free to not do it :)).
-Do you have a local shop, or a club close to you that involve themselves in wargaming? 40k in particular? That can be a great source of inspiration and motivation.
-Do you intend to stick to the existing painting scheme? Or do you wish to create your own for your army.

That's a few informations that can be usefull to know where to guide you :D

If these informations are not used by me they will be used by some other forum member to guide you 8)

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Re: I知 new and I want to create a Eldar army.
« Reply #7 on: June 4, 2018, 05:59:42 PM »
Welcome to the Eldar!

Lots of good points Grizzlykin brought up - I'll also add in how much do you want to stick with just CWE (Craft World Eldar). Harlies and Dark Eldar (I refuse to call them Drewcary or whatever the new name is) both have some great Bike units.

If you are wanting a TAC WAAC style list, I think blending the codex's really offers a lot of power. Not to say that you can't win with just one code, but it definitely  gives more options.
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Re: I知 new and I want to create a Eldar army.
« Reply #8 on: June 4, 2018, 06:26:59 PM »
I would highly recommend just playing friendly games that allow you to substitute models, to find your own play style. Eldar are an army of specialists, so the units actually need to work together to do well, so there is a bit more of a learning curve, but it is very rewarding :)

As a new player, I would recommend, Dire Avengers, wave serpent and a Farseer as the initial toe into Eldar. These have been solid units for a number of editions and they are easy to get them to work well with the more advanced units.

As for the craftworld.. Your paint scheme is just paint, there is no rule to tie your scheme to a craftworld, you can even make up your own craftworld and scheme if you want.

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Re: I知 new and I want to create a Eldar army.
« Reply #9 on: June 4, 2018, 06:46:42 PM »
welcome to the board. as been stated by most everybody, Eldar is a specialized Army. now I play mostly Saim Hann. Jetbikes are fantastic when taken with the right support. Crimson hunters, fire prisms and Shining Spears for starters. Depending on points value of games I will add in banshees, dire avengers or scorpions in a wave serpent. And if points left over, vypers. If you use the fluff for your army, then you'll want it created with all grav units.

You can also put 5 wraith guard in a wave serpent more points but worth it.

Farseer skyrunner is a great HQ but an Autarch skyrunner with a nova lance is a great choice too. Warlock skyrunner conclave for that extra psychic punch is great to bolster with.

With the many different ways to play pointy ears, it's all gonna come down to your play style.

Paint scheme, that's part of the hobby, paint them the way you want.
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Re: I知 new and I want to create a Eldar army.
« Reply #10 on: June 5, 2018, 11:29:17 AM »
Welcome to the Eldar!

Lots of good points Grizzlykin brought up - I'll also add in how much do you want to stick with just CWE (Craft World Eldar). Harlies and Dark Eldar (I refuse to call them Drewcary or whatever the new name is) both have some great Bike units.

If you are wanting a TAC WAAC style list, I think blending the codex's really offers a lot of power. Not to say that you can't win with just one code, but it definitely  gives more options.
I will stick to CWE for now. BTW, what does TAC WAAC mean?

I want to win at all costs, and look cool. But mostly winning.
Thanks for the advice!

Ok good then we got a place to start then :)

Just an early reminder before we get into the meat of the answer.  as good as your list might be, 2 things will heavily weight on your gameplay no matter what. 1 Your strategie defenetly impact if you win, no question asked about that. 2 Luck got to be on your side aswell, it's game played with dice and card, therefore luck can be a big deciding factor in a win.

Also if you do not win immediatly, do not get upset and keep trying for a bit, you need to get used to the game mechanics your army and plenty of other things :) Let's get back on topic now.

I'm not really the guy you need to ask for pure competitive list, neither is it for jetbike as I'm more of a aspect warrior + tank kind of guy, plus I play for the fun of the game rather than the absolute win so my list are geared in that direction with what ever unit I like at the moment. BUT you will find plenty of very competitive and experienced player in this forum, just wait for them, they smell the newby (don't take it abdly please), they will come !


Next up let me ask you a few other questions :

-How experienced are you in wargaming. Did you play other tabletop games of the same spirit, warmachine, x-wing or what not?
-How experienced are you with modeling and painting?  Did you do other kind of things similar to this before? Or is it your first venture in the domaine. Do you pratice some kind of art on the side maybe that could be used as a foundation for your next step?
-It's a question I have to ask, are you more interested in the gaming and winning aspect or the modeling and painting one, so far I feel like it's more towards the gaming and winning that you lean but just in case let me ask.
-An other question I have to ask, sadly, how deep is your pocket. Because what ever you wish to do this is an expensive hobby. A really expensive one, therefore you really need to be sure where you want to go before you play. (This is a facultive question it's just so that we can direct you toward a proper way of buying you minis based on that, if you feel uncomfortable answering that one, you are totally free to not do it :)).
-Do you have a local shop, or a club close to you that involve themselves in wargaming? 40k in particular? That can be a great source of inspiration and motivation.
-Do you intend to stick to the existing painting scheme? Or do you wish to create your own for your army.

That's a few informations that can be usefull to know where to guide you :D

If these informations are not used by me they will be used by some other forum member to guide you 8)

Grizzly out.

I am a complete beginner, when it comes to games of wargaming. I don't play any other wargaming games. A friend of mine introduced me to WH40K.

My friend said that he will make the models and paint them, I will play with them. This is my first time doing something like this. I may ask if I can paint them though.

Because I mentioned above that I won't actually make the models, I am more interested in gameplay and winning.

I am planning to get the old Start Collecting set(the Jetbike one) and Dire Avengers, which should cost 」55. I can afford that, and I am going to limit myself to 」80, but I will spend more if I have to.

Me and my friends will play together, but there isn't a club close to me that has to do with wargaming AFAIK.

welcome to the board. as been stated by most everybody, Eldar is a specialized Army. now I play mostly Saim Hann. Jetbikes are fantastic when taken with the right support. Crimson hunters, fire prisms and Shining Spears for starters. Depending on points value of games I will add in banshees, dire avengers or scorpions in a wave serpent. And if points left over, vypers. If you use the fluff for your army, then you'll want it created with all grav units.

You can also put 5 wraith guard in a wave serpent more points but worth it.

Farseer skyrunner is a great HQ but an Autarch skyrunner with a nova lance is a great choice too. Warlock skyrunner conclave for that extra psychic punch is great to bolster with.

With the many different ways to play pointy ears, it's all gonna come down to your play style.

Paint scheme, that's part of the hobby, paint them the way you want.
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WOW! Those look amazing! If I can, I will try to make something like yours, because that's incredible.
(oh and also, when I showed my friends this, they all said not to put the 5 wraith guards on the wave serpent, and said it's OP. I may do it.)

By the way, as a side note, my friend did this little quiz when he was first introducing me to WH40K. "Speed or Strength?" and then "Quality or Quantity?" I said speed, and quality IIRC.

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Re: I知 new and I want to create a Eldar army.
« Reply #11 on: June 5, 2018, 01:28:26 PM »
They're not op, your friends are afraid of them, haha. Keep us informed.
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« Reply #12 on: June 5, 2018, 05:14:56 PM »
Wraithguard especially with D-scythes are really point heavy, but hit really hard. To put this in perspective, that one unit in a transport is probably 1/3 to half your army in ponts or Power Level.

The balance comes when they get out of the transport, most infantry weapons will have little trouble tacking them out, thanks to the sheer volume they can unload. Medium to Heavy weapons will trash them fairly quickly too.

They are simply too slow walking, so you'll never catch what you want to waste, they'll just get shot off the table.

The other thing that balances it out, is it makes target priority fairly easy, if they can kill the wave, they can generally just out manouver you so the wraith dont get to do anything. Having 1/3 of your army do nothing is a big problem. So you have to work out a way to deliver the wrait's before they can do that.


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Re: I知 new and I want to create a Eldar army.
« Reply #13 on: June 5, 2018, 05:31:00 PM »
Wraithguard with D-Scythes are considered good, but not competitive. They have a strong limitation on range and require a lot of support to be effective, as many Eldar units do.
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Re: I知 new and I want to create a Eldar army.
« Reply #14 on: June 5, 2018, 05:48:00 PM »
Welcome to the Eldar!

Lots of good points Grizzlykin brought up - I'll also add in how much do you want to stick with just CWE (Craft World Eldar). Harlies and Dark Eldar (I refuse to call them Drewcary or whatever the new name is) both have some great Bike units.

If you are wanting a TAC WAAC style list, I think blending the codex's really offers a lot of power. Not to say that you can't win with just one code, but it definitely  gives more options.
I will stick to CWE for now. BTW, what does TAC WAAC mean?



TAC = Take all Comers - means your list is balacned to try and take on anything an opponent can bring...

WAAC = Win at all costs - this is the hyper competitive looking for the best synergy and rules to exploit.

As for sticking to CWE, they are very very good.

Wanting to focus on speed is good too. I personally like speed, and even on foot eldar are significantly faster than other foot armies. Their vehicles not being open topped hinders some of that speed, but not too much so.

If you are wanting to go towards bikes, vipers, wind riders, and shinning spears are all good. Spears are amazing. I would run a squad of at least 6 of those bad boys.

Autuarch on a bike with a spear and banshee mask and fusion gun is probably one of the scariest things we can field. I like to give mine the shimmerplue relic for -1 to hit him too, just to really mess people up.

Shooting vs Close Combat - how do you feel on those aspects?

I don't recall the old getting started box - what all did it have other than bikes?
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Re: I知 new and I want to create a Eldar army.
« Reply #15 on: June 6, 2018, 05:24:13 AM »
Welcome to the Eldar!

Lots of good points Grizzlykin brought up - I'll also add in how much do you want to stick with just CWE (Craft World Eldar). Harlies and Dark Eldar (I refuse to call them Drewcary or whatever the new name is) both have some great Bike units.

If you are wanting a TAC WAAC style list, I think blending the codex's really offers a lot of power. Not to say that you can't win with just one code, but it definitely  gives more options.
I will stick to CWE for now. BTW, what does TAC WAAC mean?



TAC = Take all Comers - means your list is balacned to try and take on anything an opponent can bring...

WAAC = Win at all costs - this is the hyper competitive looking for the best synergy and rules to exploit.

As for sticking to CWE, they are very very good.

Wanting to focus on speed is good too. I personally like speed, and even on foot eldar are significantly faster than other foot armies. Their vehicles not being open topped hinders some of that speed, but not too much so.

If you are wanting to go towards bikes, vipers, wind riders, and shinning spears are all good. Spears are amazing. I would run a squad of at least 6 of those bad boys.

Autuarch on a bike with a spear and banshee mask and fusion gun is probably one of the scariest things we can field. I like to give mine the shimmerplue relic for -1 to hit him too, just to really mess people up.

Shooting vs Close Combat - how do you feel on those aspects?

I don't recall the old getting started box - what all did it have other than bikes?

Thanks for telling me about TAC and WAAC, I may go with a 典AC army then.

I think that I want my army to be better at shooting than close combat, but I do want it to be  good at close combat nonetheless.

The old start collecting (which may not be for 8th edition, but IDK) includes 1 Farseer, 1 unit of Windriders, and 1 Fire Prism.

Wraithguard with D-Scythes are considered good, but not competitive. They have a strong limitation on range and require a lot of support to be effective, as many Eldar units do.
Wraithguard especially with D-scythes are really point heavy, but hit really hard. To put this in perspective, that one unit in a transport is probably 1/3 to half your army in ponts or Power Level.

The balance comes when they get out of the transport, most infantry weapons will have little trouble tacking them out, thanks to the sheer volume they can unload. Medium to Heavy weapons will trash them fairly quickly too.

They are simply too slow walking, so you'll never catch what you want to waste, they'll just get shot off the table.

The other thing that balances it out, is it makes target priority fairly easy, if they can kill the wave, they can generally just out manouver you so the wraith dont get to do anything. Having 1/3 of your army do nothing is a big problem. So you have to work out a way to deliver the wrait's before they can do that.


For 8th edition, I highly recommend you have atleast 3 pieces of line of sight blocking terrain on the board.

Thanks for telling me! This really helps. I may not get it, since it being 1/3 of my army would be quite a lot. Also, what do you mean by 3 pieces of line of sight blocking terrain on the board? Do you mean there should be pieces where my troops can稚 都ee the opponents or not? I mostly going to be playing at my friend痴, and from pictures of his board, I think there痴 about 8 or 9 objects that block my LoS.

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Re: I’m new and I want to create a Eldar army.
« Reply #16 on: June 6, 2018, 08:55:04 AM »
im the friend who EndEz is referring to. I'm quite experienced, having been gaming since 6th as space marines and guard. i am also trying to start a club with other players. I’m just new to this forum
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Re: I知 new and I want to create a Eldar army.
« Reply #18 on: June 7, 2018, 01:39:11 AM »
Thank you Irisado and welcome RT. I have confidence you will help End find his footing in this great hobby.
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Re: I知 new and I want to create a Eldar army.
« Reply #19 on: June 7, 2018, 07:39:54 AM »
Hey End I've actually played a combination of Wraithguard and Jetbikes many times throughout the edition and did not find it to be over powered at all. Wraithguard are an expensive unit, that has to get very close to do damage so there is a high amount of risk involved as your opponent will get ample opportunity to try and disable their Wave Serpent as they move in for the attack. That being said they have fantastic offense and have very good defense for heavy infantry but have a number of drawbacks that balance them out.

To start with I'd get a trio of 3 units of 3 man Jetbikes with Scatter Lasers. 2x units of Wraithguard (one with Cannons, One D-Scythes) and put them both in Wave Serpents. I'd get a Farseer and Spirit Seer as the core of your army. That gives you a good combo of tough armored vehicles, excellent close range firepower, mobile long range fire power and very healthy psychic support.

I'd then work on getting some troops to get you up to battalion strength so you can have a lot of Command Points and then take a look at the Eldar flyers both of which are excellent.
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