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List Selection for 1500p Tournament - Alaitoc vs. Ynnari
« on: April 4, 2018, 05:52:25 AM »
Hi guys!
I will be playing at a tournament on April 14th. Codex/Errate freeze will be on 7th, so if the FAQ doesn't drop till then, I will be able to play with what I am used to!
If it drops I guess I will have to redo all the lists most likely, but I have to submit my list on 8th, so I wanted to make some lists in case it doesn't come.

I prepared an Alaitoc list and a LVO style ynnari list. Which one would you rather play and do you have input for changes?

Ynnari LVO Style:

Yvraine      Warlord      132      
   Word of the Phoenix, Ancestors Grace               
Autarch Skyrunnner            125      
   Banshee's Mask, Fusion Gun, Laser lance, shuriken pistol               
   <Saim Hann>               
Spiritseer            45      
   Quicken/Restrain               
   <Biel Tan>   Treasure of the Craftworlds -1CP: Spiritstone of Biel Tan            
Kabalite Warriors x5            30      
   Sybarite      Points from Codex: Drukahri new         
Kabalite Warriors x5            30      
   Sybarite            
Dire Avengers x5            60      
   Exarch               
   <Alaitoc>               
Dark Reapers x8            221      
   Exarch Tempest Launcer               
   <Alaitoc>               
Shining Spears x7            219      
   Exarch Star lance               
   <Saim Hann>               
                  
Battalion - Craftworld <Alaitoc>                  
Farseer            100      
   Witchblade, Guide, Fortune               
Farseer            100      
   Witchblade, Doom, Executioner               
Warlock            35      
   Witchblade, Protect/Jinx               
                  
Rangers x5            60      
Rangers x5            60      
Rangers x5            60      
                  
Dark Reapers x3            86      
   Exarch Tempest Launcher               
Wave Serpent            134      
   Shuriken Cannon, Twin Shuriken Cannon               
                  
                  
            1497      

Alaitoc:


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [63 PL, 1153pts] ++

+ Flyer +

Crimson Hunter Exarch [9 PL, 175pts]: Two Bright Lances

+ HQ +

Autarch Skyrunner [6 PL, 125pts]: Banshee Mask, Fusion Gun, Laser Lance, Twin Shuriken Catapult

Farseer [6 PL, 100pts]: 1. Guide, 2. Doom, Shuriken Pistol, Witchblade

Spiritseer [3 PL, 45pts]: 5. Quicken/Restrain, 6: Seer of the Shifting Vector, Shuriken Pistol, Warlord

+ Dedicated Transport +

Wave Serpent [9 PL, 134pts]: Shuriken Cannon, Twin Shuriken Cannon

+ Fast Attack +

Shining Spears [14 PL, 250pts]
. 7x Shining Spear: 7x Laser Lance, 7x Twin Shuriken Catapult
. Shining Spear Exarch: Star Lance, Twin Shuriken Catapult

Windriders [4 PL, 84pts]
. 3x Windrider - Shuriken Cannon: 3x Shuriken Cannon

+ Troops +

Dire Avengers [6 PL, 120pts]
. 9x Dire Avenger: 9x Avenger Shuriken Catapult
. Dire Avenger Exarch: Avenger Shuriken Catapult

Rangers [3 PL, 60pts]: 5x Ranger

Rangers [3 PL, 60pts]: 5x Ranger

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [17 PL, 347pts] ++

+ HQ +

Warlock [2 PL, 35pts]: 4. Protect/Jinx, Shuriken Pistol, Witchblade

+ Heavy Support +

Dark Reapers [7 PL, 140pts]
. 4x Dark Reaper: 4x Reaper Launcher
. Dark Reaper Exarch: Tempest Launcher

Dark Reapers [4 PL, 86pts]
. 2x Dark Reaper: 2x Reaper Launcher
. Dark Reaper Exarch: Tempest Launcher

Dark Reapers [4 PL, 86pts]
. 2x Dark Reaper: 2x Reaper Launcher
. Dark Reaper Exarch: Tempest Launcher

++ Total: [80 PL, 1500pts] ++



What I like about the ynnari list, is that it doesnt really offer a good target for anti tank, making it quite useless while still gaving a lot of resilliance vs small arms fire with -hit and good saves in cover. So the obvious target for lasconnons &co would be the spears who have a 4++ (or 3++ with protect). For the Alaitoc list all the anti tank will most likly go into the flyer with -2 to hit, so it creates a lot of distraction for the spears.

I am not sure if I like all the troops I take in the ynnari list, it will give me some nice bubblewrap and deepstrike deny.

So the big difference beween the lists is Yvraine+Farseer+Kabalites vs. Crimson Hunter+1 extra spear+5 more Avengers+1 more tempest launcher+Windriders(I am thinking if swooping hawks would be even better).

Missions will be different for each game, 2 of them will be scored at the end of the game with held objectives, the third has scoring at the end if each turn, aswell with objectives.

From what I see there are about a third space marine players, some other Eldar, Necrons and Tau.

I am looking forward to your opinnions, thank you a lot!

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Re: List Selection for 1500p Tournament - Alaitoc vs. Ynnari
« Reply #1 on: April 4, 2018, 10:56:04 AM »
I think you should run the ynnari, but with the new Drukhari codex out I think you should really use kabalites of the black heart to unlock the "agents of vect" stratagem, then have a large unit of wyches of strife.
Those wyches would have extreme potential. improved amount of base attacks, +1 from adrenalight, +1 from spectacle of murder, +1 from "double drugs" stratagem, x2 SfD fight once more, x2 "no method of death..." stratagem.

That's 20 attacks/Wych.
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Re: List Selection for 1500p Tournament - Alaitoc vs. Ynnari
« Reply #2 on: April 4, 2018, 12:41:37 PM »
Thanks for the input, sadly I don't have much dark eldar in my collection, just 1 start collecting box and a unit of scourges.

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Re: List Selection for 1500p Tournament - Alaitoc vs. Ynnari
« Reply #3 on: April 4, 2018, 04:20:23 PM »
Ah, I see.
I got the old box, which included both 10 Kabalites and 10 (or was it 5?) Wyches.

You could still make the Kabalites <kabal of the black heart> to unlock the "Agents of Vect" stratagem?

Not sure (ruleswise) if you can keep "thirst for power" though, while you loose "power from pain" you might still be able to claim "inured to suffering"?
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Re: List Selection for 1500p Tournament - Alaitoc vs. Ynnari
« Reply #4 on: April 4, 2018, 04:26:33 PM »
Ah, I see.
I got the old box, which included both 10 Kabalites and 10 (or was it 5?) Wyches.

You could still make the Kabalites <kabal of the black heart> to unlock the "Agents of Vect" stratagem?

Not sure (ruleswise) if you can keep "thirst for power" though, while you loose "power from pain" you might still be able to claim "inured to suffering"?

Haven't got the book yet, but I guess it works like any other craftworld/legion/hivefleet/etc trait: The whole detachment has to come from that to unlock the benefit!

 


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