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Offline Mr Draken

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2000 point Aspect wing force.
« on: January 3, 2018, 12:11:32 AM »
So I have a game coming up against either grey knights or tau, and I've been going nuts writing lists using the models I have in my collection. This is my latest venture I'm thinking of throwing into it. Thoughts, comments and critique very welcome!

Tactics: the firebase of the guardians and reapers with the Autarch will pick a vantage point up, guardians will screen incase of deep strikers. Avengers and banshees move up in serpents, supported by Asurmen and the Farseer to punch into enemy lines. The shining spears warp spiders and spectres will be fire support and flanking, depending on everything else, I may push them against a single flank, use them to back up the serpent spearhead, or even harass the rest of his flanks so he has to divide forces.

Battalion Detachment +3CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [108 PL, 2002pts]
Craftworld Attribute
Selections: Biel-Tan: Swordwind

Dedicated Transport
--Wave Serpent [9 PL, 144pts]
Selections: Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones, Twin Shuriken Cannon
--Wave Serpent [9 PL, 144pts]
Selections: Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones, Twin Shuriken Cannon
--Wave Serpent [9 PL, 144pts]
Selections: Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones, Twin Shuriken Cannon

Heavy Support
--Dark Reapers [7 PL, 135pts]
4x Dark Reaper
Selections: 4x Reaper Launcher
Dark Reaper Exarch
Selections: Reaper Launcher
--Dark Reapers [7 PL, 135pts]
4x Dark Reaper
Selections: 4x Reaper Launcher
Dark Reaper Exarch
Selections: Reaper Launcher

HQ
--Asurmen [9 PL, 175pts]
--Autarch [4 PL, 99pts]
Selections: 5: Mark of the Incomparable Hunter, Banshee Mask, Forceshield, Reaper Launcher, Shimmerplume of Achillrial, Shuriken Pistol, Star Glaive, Warlord
--Farseer [6 PL, 100pts]
Selections: 2. Doom, 4. Executioner, Shuriken Pistol, Witchblade

Elites
--Howling Banshees [6 PL, 133pts]
9x Howling Banshee
Selections: 9x Power Sword
Howling Banshee Exarch
Selections: Shuriken Pistol & Executioner
--Shadow Spectres [10 PL, 169pts]
4x Shadow Spectre
Selections: 4x Prism Rifle
Shadow Spectre Exarch
Selections: Prism Rifle

Fast Attack
--Shining Spears [10 PL, 157pts]
4x Shining Spear
Selections: 4x Laser Lance, 4x Twin Shuriken Catapult
Shining Spear Exarch
Selections: Star Lance, Twin Shuriken Catapult
--Warp Spiders [5 PL, 102pts]
4x Warp Spider
Selections: 4x Death Spinner
Warp Spider Exarch
Selections: Powerblades, Two Death Spinners

Troops
--Dire Avengers [6 PL, 140pts]
9x Dire Avenger
Selections: 9x Avenger Shuriken Catapult
Dire Avenger Exarch
Selections: Shimmershield & Power Glaive
--Dire Avengers [6 PL, 120pts]
9x Dire Avenger
Selections: 9x Avenger Shuriken Catapult
Dire Avenger Exarch
Selections: Shuriken Pistol & Diresword
--Guardian Defenders [5 PL, 105pts]
Selections: 10x Guardian Defender
Guardian Heavy Weapons Platform
Selections: Bright Lance
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Offline Fenris

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Re: 2000 point Aspect wing force.
« Reply #1 on: January 3, 2018, 12:04:49 PM »
I'm not so sure about Asurmen, his aura will not help banshees or avengers in any significant way as AP 0 weapons is what usually kills them. What's more is one o the Avengers units already pays for an invulnerable save.
The biel-tan trait also overlaps without stacking with the Autarchs aura.

Another thing is why battalion when you are actually quite close to a brigade?
-Asurmen
+ 4th serpent
+ warlock/spiritseer (quickening the banshees)
+ rangers
/ split banshees, reapers spears and avengers

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Offline Mr Draken

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Re: 2000 point Aspect wing force.
« Reply #2 on: January 5, 2018, 10:57:17 AM »
Cheers for the reply! Ive toyed with brigade lists.... ive only found them useful if running Ynnari or mass guardian armies to be honest. Too many tax units, or too many small units that get wiped out.

I actually modified the list, I'm due to use it in the morning for me (so.... 12 hours or so?) either against grey knights, or tau.  New list is below, Tactics are similar, but more focused on a push down the middle. Reapers are now in a serpent, as they always hit on 3s anyway, and the invul from Asurmen.  Farseer and he ride with banshees, autarch chills with the rangers sniping HQs and covering an objective. Spears flank, spiders will deep strike in to cause max damage, the list is a total of 7 drops, and I changed to Alaltoc as it fits my craftworld lore better and it also fits the way the army plays better.

Battalion Detachment +3CP (Aeldari - Craftworlds) [108 PL, 2001pts]
No Force Org Slot
Craftworld Attribute
Selections: Alaitoc: Fieldcraft

Dedicated Transport
--Wave Serpent [9 PL, 154pts]
Selections: Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones, Twin Shuriken Cannon, Vectored Engines

--Wave Serpent [9 PL, 154pts]
Selections: Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones, Twin Shuriken Cannon, Vectored Engines

--Wave Serpent [9 PL, 154pts]
Selections: Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones, Twin Shuriken Cannon, Vectored Engines

--Wave Serpent [9 PL, 154pts]
Selections: Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones, Twin Shuriken Cannon, Vectored Engines

Heavy Support
--Dark Reapers [13 PL, 270pts]
9x Dark Reaper
Selections: 9x Reaper Launcher
Dark Reaper Exarch
Selections: Reaper Launcher

HQ
--Asurmen [9 PL, 175pts]

--Autarch [4 PL, 99pts]
Selections: 5: Mark of the Incomparable Hunter, Banshee Mask, Forceshield, Reaper Launcher, Shimmerplume of Achillrial, Shuriken Pistol, Star Glaive, Warlord

--Farseer [6 PL, 105pts]
Selections: 2. Doom, 4. Executioner, Shuriken Pistol, Singing Spear

Elites
--Howling Banshees [6 PL, 133pts]
9x Howling Banshee
Selections: 9x Power Sword
Howling Banshee Exarch
Selections: Shuriken Pistol & Executioner

Fast Attack
--Shining Spears [10 PL, 157pts]
4x Shining Spear
Selections: 4x Laser Lance, 4x Twin Shuriken Catapult
Shining Spear Exarch
Selections: Star Lance, Twin Shuriken Catapult

--Warp Spiders [9 PL, 138pts]
6x Warp Spider
Selections: 6x Death Spinner
Warp Spider Exarch
Selections: Powerblades, Two Death Spinners

Troops
--Dire Avengers [6 PL, 124pts]
9x Dire Avenger
Selections: 9x Avenger Shuriken Catapult
Dire Avenger Exarch
Selections: Two Avenger Shuriken Catapults

--Dire Avengers [6 PL, 124pts]
9x Dire Avenger
Selections: 9x Avenger Shuriken Catapult
Dire Avenger Exarch
Selections: Two Avenger Shuriken Catapults

--Rangers [3 PL, 60pts]
Selections: 5x Ranger
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Offline Fenris

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Re: 2000 point Aspect wing force.
« Reply #3 on: January 6, 2018, 08:58:12 PM »
I'm not sure dropping the Spectres was the right call, but adding a serpent for the reapers is good, but those rangers seem like points fillers IMO since one unit of 5 is not going to make an impact.

Combining the reapers can be good too, but you might want to have the farseer near the reapers when your opponent is deepstriking stuff, to use the "forewarned" stratagem. Works wonders against those twin sawed off heavy bolters primarines for example.

You are also giving the serpents a lot of candy, according to my experience serpents are tough enough without any defensive upgrades, while I have been playing them as Ulthwé which gives them free spirit stones, the worst games I've had were when the serpents were ignored. Keep the serpent shield until you are starting to degrade and they should be fine without either stones or vectored engines, and should almost grand you the points for swapping the Spectres in instead of the rangers. :)


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