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Offline croggy

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1850 flyer spam is this legal?
« on: March 14, 2016, 01:00:23 PM »
Ive not played in a while is this legal?

+++ Flyer spam (1850pts) +++

++ Astra Militarum: Codex (2014) (Formation Detachment) (1020pts) ++

+ Formation (1020pts) +

Emperor's Spear Aerial Company (510pts)
Vendetta Squadron (170pts)
Vendetta (170pts) [2x Twin-linked Lascannons]
Vendetta Squadron (170pts)
Vendetta (170pts) [2x Twin-linked Lascannons]
Vendetta Squadron (170pts)
Vendetta (170pts) [2x Twin-linked Lascannons]

Emperor's Spear Aerial Company (510pts)
Vendetta Squadron (170pts)
Vendetta (170pts) [2x Twin-linked Lascannons]
Vendetta Squadron (170pts)
Vendetta (170pts) [2x Twin-linked Lascannons]
Vendetta Squadron (170pts)
Vendetta (170pts) [2x Twin-linked Lascannons]

++ Astra Militarum: Codex (2014) (Combined Arms Detachment) (755pts) ++

+ No Force Org Slot (50pts) +

Ministorum Priest (25pts)

Ministorum Priest (25pts)

+ HQ (90pts) +

Company Command Squad (90pts) [Flak Armour, Veteran w/ Lasgun, 3x Veteran w/ Meltagun (30pts)]
Company Commander [Close Combat Weapon, Flak Armour, Orders]
Laspistol [Laspistol]

+ Troops (420pts) +

Infantry Platoon (235pts)
Infantry Squad (50pts) [9x Guardsman]
Sergeant [Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol]
Infantry Squad (50pts) [9x Guardsman]
Sergeant [Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol]
Platoon Command Squad (45pts) [3x Guardsman w/ Flamer (15pts), Guardsman w/ Lasgun]
Platoon Commander [Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol, Orders]
Special Weapons Squad (45pts) [3x Guard w/ Flamer (15pts)]
Special Weapons Squad (45pts) [3x Guard w/ Flamer (15pts)]

Infantry Platoon (185pts)
Infantry Squad (50pts) [9x Guardsman]
Sergeant [Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol]
Infantry Squad (50pts) [9x Guardsman]
Sergeant [Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol]
Platoon Command Squad (40pts) [2x Guardsman w/ Flamer (10pts), 2x Guardsman w/ Lasgun]
Platoon Commander [Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol, Orders]
Special Weapons Squad (45pts) [3x Guard w/ Flamer (15pts)]

+ Heavy Support (195pts) +

Wyvern Battery (65pts)
Wyvern (65pts) [Heavy Bolter]

Wyvern Battery (65pts)
Wyvern (65pts) [Heavy Bolter]

Wyvern Battery (65pts)
Wyvern (65pts) [Heavy Bolter]

++ Fortifications and Stronghold Assault (2013) (Fortification Detachment) (75pts) ++

+ Fortification (75pts) +

Skyshield Landing Pad (75pts)



So basic idea is 3 wyverns on skyshield protected by 2 20 man fearless blobs.

Everything else in flyers

They can all come in on the same turn and on one turn each the guys can get out no matter how fast the bugger went...

Thoughts?


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Re: 1850 flyer spam is this legal?
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2016, 01:56:58 PM »
Well, it certainly *is* legal. Wise? Well I'm not sure.

Why so many flamers? If anything, this list needs better options against enemy elites/MEQs/TEQs. I'd think getting some plasma in there would be clutch.

Also, managing six flyers on the board at the same time is going to be damned difficult. After that first turn of entry, they are going to be gumming each other's flight patterns up a lot.

Overall I'd recommend just taking *one* flyer formation with slightly more robust passengers (Tempestus, perhaps. Better kitted Special Weapons Squads) and put the rest of your points into more mundane things. Just a suggestion, though.

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Re: 1850 flyer spam is this legal?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2016, 09:20:00 PM »
Thanks for the reply dude .

They are difficult but i used to play flyer spam guard when i did play before so im getting good at managing the difficult buggers (still a pain)

I actually got to play the list tonight against two knights , the big tau lord of war suit guy(forget name but cool) and some broadsides and suits from the farsight book.

Was a really good close game but all my qyverns died turn one along with loads of troops.

I think you are right i do need more bang for my buck so i have made a couple of tweaks critic much appreciated dude

New list alterations after tonights game

+++ Flyer spam (1850pts) +++

++ Astra Militarum: Codex (2014) (Formation Detachment) (510pts) ++

+ Formation (510pts) +

Emperor's Spear Aerial Company (510pts)
Vendetta (170pts) [3x Twin-linked Lascannons]
Vendetta (170pts) [3x Twin-linked Lascannons]
Vendetta (170pts) [3x Twin-linked Lascannons]

++ Astra Militarum: Codex (2014) (Combined Arms Detachment) (1265pts) ++

+ No Force Org Slot (25pts) +

Ministorum Priest (25pts)

+ HQ (180pts) +

Company Command Squad (90pts)
 3x Veteran w/ Meltagun

Company Command Squad (90pts)
 3x Veteran w/ Meltagun

+ Troops (380pts) +

Infantry Platoon
Infantry Squad (50pts)
Infantry Squad (50pts)
Infantry Squad (50pts)

Platoon Command Squad (50pts)
4x Guardsman w/ Flamer

Special Weapons Squad (45pts)
3x Guard w/ Flamer

Special Weapons Squad (45pts)
3x Guard w/ Flamer

Veterans (90pts)
3x Veteran w/ Meltagun

+ Fast Attack (485pts) +

Valkyrie (145pts) [2x Hellstrike Missiles, 2x Sponson-mounted Heavy Bolters (20pts), Multi-laser]

Vendetta (170pts) [3x Twin-linked Lascannons]

Vendetta (170pts) [3x Twin-linked Lascannons]

+ Heavy Support (195pts) +

Wyvern (65pts) [Heavy bolter]
Wyvern (65pts) [Heavy Bolter]
Wyvern (65pts) [Heavy Bolter]

+ Fortification (75pts) +

Skyshield Landing Pad (75pts)

So what do i lose
Pcs
10 man inf sqd
Priest

And what have i gained
Ccs-3meltas
Added 4 flamers to pcs

Why did i make the changes.
Well the two pcs squads bare bones were amphetamine parrot i really would of liked any kind of support from them but i go nothing so now instead i have a 4 flamer pcs and a 3 melta ccs which can twin link itself and the vets with a little luck.

I decided that the three infantry squads with one priest may work better as a 30 man bubble or i can still get three speed bumps out of them .

Thoughts as always appreciated .

Took one formation in order to make it more tourny friendly

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Re: 1850 flyer spam is this legal?
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2016, 09:20:12 AM »
Looks better. I'd keep the second Emperor's Spear, though, unless you take an Officer of the Fleet somewhere (who, as far as I can tell, can use their ability whether they are on the board or not). You really need all those flyers to show up at once if you want this to work. I get you want to make it Tourney friendly, but I think you lose a lot of effectiveness with them coming in piecemeal.

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Re: 1850 flyer spam is this legal?
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2016, 08:27:46 PM »
Cheers man played it tonight against grav,bike and pod heavy marines and it did really well. I was actually surprised how quickly i dropped into hover mode as i no longer felt i needed to fly around.

 


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