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Re: Jumping on the Band Wagon - 1850 Harlequins
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2015, 12:23:55 AM »
Cool beans, They look great. I will post pics asap. I took a top view of a sky weaver and painted different designs and colors. Once I did that I started painting. The troupes and characters will have variations of the colors on them but I got to see what I liked best before using a model, just a suggestion for ya. Go check out mine in the painting area under Dread Harlequins.
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Re: Jumping on the Band Wagon - 1850 Harlequins
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2015, 08:09:21 AM »
Looking good bud. Now you just need to get them all painted!
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Re: Jumping on the Band Wagon - 1850 Harlequins
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2015, 03:02:03 PM »
First painted model is posted here.

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I got my first game in with the list on Thursday, and it was a lot of fun.  A huge difference from how my Dark Angels play.

The Solitaire was interesting to use.  I, among other people, was expecting more offensive output from him.  Granted, he did go into a squad of Marine bikers and kill 3 in one round, and 4 in the next.  I will definitely have to try him in into a less tough squad next time to see how he plays out.  Unfortunately he died before he could use his blitz for the full amount of attacks.

I did learn that while the majority of powers in the Phantasmancy Discipline are cool and could be really helpful, 95% of the time I need to use at least three dice each to reliably get Veil of Tears off on my three units of Troupes.  Even when I know I will be charging that turn, the possibilities of breaking the squad or wiping them out are too great.  Those possibilities mean that if it does happen, my clowns are stuck out in the open.  In the game, there was a turn where I wanted to try getting off another power and only used two dice per Veil attempt and failed all three.

Finally, looking at the weapons for the units, I am wondering if I need to reconsider how I distribute the toys?  Having three of each in every Troupe squad means they are versatile, but I felt that the number of models utilizing the weapons in each squad left them at inadequate numbers.  With the way I have the list built, I could easily redistribute them so every squad is specialised.  Have one squad with Kisses, one with Caresses, and one with Embraces.  I am most likely going to try this out next time and see how it pans out. 
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Re: Jumping on the Band Wagon - 1850 Harlequins
« Reply #23 on: April 5, 2015, 01:00:42 AM »
After having gotten a second game in with my current rendition of the list, I have noticed a rather significant failing.  By running the Deathjesters with the Troupes, they aren't shooting.  Either the Troupes are running to make it into combat, or they are in combat; both of which mean the Jesters are rather useless to me.  So some suggestions from the guys at my LGS got me thinking about adding in some Starweavers. So I did some changes and added them as dedicated transports, here is how the list pans out now:

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10 Harlequin Troupes:  9 Caresses; Master w/ Caress; Starweaver.  320pts

10 Harlequin Troupes:  9 Embraces; Starweaver.  285pts

10 Harlequin Troupes:  9 Kisses; Master w/ Kiss; Starweaver.  290pts

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3x Deathjesters180pts

Shadowseer:  Mask of Secrets, ML2.  100pts

Shadowseer:  Laughing God's Eye, ML2.  105pts

Shadowseer:  ML2.  85pts

Solitaire:  Haywire Grenade.  150pts

Fast Attack
2 Skyweavers:  Zephyrglaives / Haywire Cannons.  130pts

2 Skyweavers:  Zephyrglaives / Haywire Cannons.  130pts

Heavy Support
Voidweaver:  Haywire Cannon.  75pts

Total Points:  1850
Model Count:  45

The Starweavers start alone the back edge of the table with the Deathjesters in behind.  On turn one, they jump into the vehicles and never get out.  That gives me some additional fire support that my list was lacking initially.  95% of my game right now is in combat, I need something to threaten units at range, and the three Shuriken Cannon's that fire from a single Starweaver solves that problem.  It also gives me additional maneuverability to take and contest objectives.  But the most important thing (in my mind) is that the Deathjesters are actually being utilized while still being protected, so I can use Death is not Enough to a greater extent.

I will be trying this list out on Thursday with proxies, but I want to know what you guys think of it.
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Re: Jumping on the Band Wagon - 1850 Harlequins
« Reply #24 on: April 6, 2015, 12:04:58 PM »
I think this list is excellent. Pretty sure you are running these Harlies EXACTLY as they were intended and too maximum effect. You've got 3 Haywire cannons and the Caresses which'll give you about as much AT as you can get in an 1850 list without allies.

If you were to rock allies I would suggest the Dark Artisan formation from the Coven's book which would allow you to deepstrike a Talos/Chronos so long as you took a WWP Haemonculus.

However I think if you want to really give the Harlies a test-ride to see just how effective they can be in a take-all-comers list I think this is the list.

Let us know how it goes I'll be fascinated to see how it works.
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Re: Jumping on the Band Wagon - 1850 Harlequins
« Reply #25 on: April 7, 2015, 04:55:36 PM »
I like the list. In lieu of a full Voidweaver unit using the DJ Starweavers could be an interesting alternative. The only concern I have with it is the high number of solo vehicles that can give up First Blood. If you go in understanding that will be a foregone conclusion then this should work well for you. Even if you lose one of your DJs, you won't lose all three unless your opponent is extremely lucky and very range oriented.

You'll have to let us know how it turns out for you. :)

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Re: Jumping on the Band Wagon - 1850 Harlequins
« Reply #26 on: April 9, 2015, 10:50:33 PM »
I took this list out today against a nasty nid list.  I got spanked royally, but since we were playing Maelstrom, I only lost the game  by a point.  The theory behind the list works well, having the three Shuriken Cannons firing per vehicle is a lot of firepower.  It would be nice to see the Jesters killing non-fearless models though.  I like how the list plays overall.
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