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Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2009, 07:03:44 PM »
Hymirl, remember we have to fight for the glorious title of actual 8th place holder for the 8th tournament.

Oh, you know what? We'll just settle it in the final when we both get there this time round, okay? But I'll be damned if I'll be fighting for 1st place, I just want that 8th place spot secured.

I am definitely interested, but I need to find out when my wife wants to book our summer holiday- I am not sure she wants to plan that far in advance. Unfortunately I don't think "I have a wargames tournament so we can't go on holiday" will fly with her...

Pfffft. Try anyway, see what happens.  ;)







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Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2009, 07:18:01 PM »
Hymirl, remember we have to fight for the glorious title of actual 8th place holder for the 8th tournament.

Oh, you know what? We'll just settle it in the final when we both get there this time round, okay? But I'll be damned if I'll be fighting for 1st place, I just want that 8th place spot secured.

Too many people holding grudges against me! :P

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« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2009, 03:32:59 AM »
Sign me up for the slaughter! :D

Random game length: Keep the random length.  It's an integral part of how 40k works, that we don't know exactly when the game ends.  We can still have a time limit, which will be best for making sure people finish at the same time.

Pts limit:  I don't really mind which limit we use, though it goes without saying more points means longer game, and may lengthen games beyond the time limit.  Also, 1500pts is the standard here, and finding someone to playtest at 1500 is easier that with other values.  Then agian, we could just set a trend for 2000pts at BFG...

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Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2009, 04:30:58 AM »
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Well ok, but I'm gonna be mean! And try not to turn up with a softy softy marine biker army this time!

same, nothing so simple as a bunch of guys with shotguns for me. this xmas will be new army time.

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In that vein I wouldn't mind playing 1750 I'm sure it wouldn't be the end of the world. Just tell people to keep the pace up! It won't make that much difference in the long run, I find most people tend to take 1500 point armies and add a land raider or something!
i find that as well. i remember when i was in the states. we have a scaled tourney (4 games 1k +250 each round) and one player added 3 LR's , 1 each round to 1750.
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Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2009, 06:35:51 AM »
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In that vein I wouldn't mind playing 1750 I'm sure it wouldn't be the end of the world. Just tell people to keep the pace up! It won't make that much difference in the long run, I find most people tend to take 1500 point armies and add a land raider or something!
i find that as well. i remember when i was in the states. we have a scaled tourney (4 games 1k +250 each round) and one player added 3 LR's , 1 each round to 1750.

We have an Escalation tournament at BFG on Saturday so I'll take note how long the average game lasts for the 2000 point limit. I'm generally a very quick player, even more so with my new CSM army (played a 2k point game on Monday that lasted just over an hour) and let you guys know how I feel about us running the larger games.

On a side note, for my extra 500 points to make 2000 I've just added a squad of 19 Plague Marines w/ Champion, Fist and 2 Meltas :P

And to reiterate, we'll definitely be playing random game length but fixed time limits (normally 2 hours a game), ignore O!nk's heretic ramblings.

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Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2009, 06:52:42 AM »
You know, in the process of thinking up lists for this thing, I came to a realization; I seem to actually hate winning. Every competitive army list I've considered, I have subsequently rejected on the grounds that I don't like it for some ineffable reason. Seriously, what is wrong with me? I hope the Tyranid re-release makes the stuff I've got more competitive... Seems unlikely somehow
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« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2009, 06:54:01 AM »
On a side note, for my extra 500 points to make 2000 I've just added a squad of 19 Plague Marines w/ Champion, Fist and 2 Meltas :P


erm... on second thoughts, lets scrap upping the limit  :o lol

yea, checking the average time line of 2000pt games will help make the choice. I do also like the idea of an escalation type day as well... though putting together armies for this sort of thing can be very difficult and I would have thought favours some forces over others?


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And to reiterate, we'll definitely be playing random game length but fixed time limits (normally 2 hours a game), ignore O!nk's heretic ramblings.

Well, it was just a musing - having suffered with my Tau due to short games. And really through no fault of my own - i think all the tau players had trouble on the day. I mean, it takes a tau army at least three turns to capture an objective (that is occupied).

Generally, you need to allow at least two turns of shooting to clear the enemy (where another army can shoot and assault to have the same effect). Then you need to be able to move into range of hte objective... which will again take at least one, maybe two turns.

To make matters worse they are simply no good at holding it once there!

What this means is that a Tau army has to start manouvring and clearing objectives on turn 2... whilst other armies are still happily targetting enemy threats and whittling down the enemy force before thinking about objectives!

In any case, it means I won't be using the Tau this time around.

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Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2009, 07:15:39 AM »
Hymirl, remember we have to fight for the glorious title of actual 8th place holder for the 8th tournament.........

Shouldn't that be 9th place for the 9th Tourney

On a side note, for my extra 500 points to make 2000 I've just added a squad of 19 Plague Marines w/ Champion, Fist and 2 Meltas :P
...erm... on second thoughts, lets scrap upping the limit  :o lol
But wwhy that's only an EXTRA unit of bikerrNobz not much in it really :)
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Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2009, 07:39:46 AM »
An extra 500 points hey? Why is it no matter how much guard stuff I already own, I can't stop myself thinking that a new vendetta, or executioner, or something I don't own or have the money for is the best plan of action?

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Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2009, 08:17:25 AM »
You know, in the process of thinking up lists for this thing, I came to a realization; I seem to actually hate winning. Every competitive army list I've considered, I have subsequently rejected on the grounds that I don't like it for some ineffable reason. Seriously, what is wrong with me? I hope the Tyranid re-release makes the stuff I've got more competitive... Seems unlikely somehow

You know, I'm incredibly similar in that regard at times! I take ridiculous armies that are a nightmare against some people but aren't rounded enough to win the actual tournament (Deathwing, 18x Crisis Suits, 5KP Chaos army). The one time I brought a truly competitive army (my Crons) I lost out to O!nk by a fraction; if only I had made that last armour save... stupid flyer.

yea, checking the average time line of 2000pt games will help make the choice. I do also like the idea of an escalation type day as well... though putting together armies for this sort of thing can be very difficult and I would have thought favours some forces over others?

My army for Saturday is going to struggle a lot at 1000 points; I'm just hoping I draw the right kind of opponent. Not so worried about the other point limits. 500 especially will be amusing (20x Beserkers w/ Champ and Fist).

Well, it was just a musing - having suffered with my Tau due to short games. And really through no fault of my own - i think all the tau players had trouble on the day. I mean, it takes a tau army at least three turns to capture an objective (that is occupied).

Generally, you need to allow at least two turns of shooting to clear the enemy (where another army can shoot and assault to have the same effect). Then you need to be able to move into range of hte objective... which will again take at least one, maybe two turns.

To make matters worse they are simply no good at holding it once there!

What this means is that a Tau army has to start manouvring and clearing objectives on turn 2... whilst other armies are still happily targetting enemy threats and whittling down the enemy force before thinking about objectives!

In any case, it means I won't be using the Tau this time around.


Unfortunately, that is the Tau's problem and I don't want to change the whole dynamic of the game/tournament because one army doesn't like close combat. Allowing Mechdar the safety of knowing when to send their skimmers to contest objectives is just too gruelling an idea for me to contemplate. It wouldn't surprise me if Tau get some piece of wargear or asset in the next codex which allows them to get the extra turns on a 2+/3+, similar to one of the old Space Marine traits. Think it would be very suitable for the Tau using the extra time to blast their opponents off the board.

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« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2009, 08:34:52 AM »
My army for Saturday is going to struggle a lot at 1000 points; I'm just hoping I draw the right kind of opponent. Not so worried about the other point limits. 500 especially will be amusing (20x Beserkers w/ Champ and Fist).
Oh yeah it going to struggle

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Re: 9th 40kOnline UK Tournament in partnership with Bracknell Forest Gamers
« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2009, 08:44:08 AM »
My army for Saturday is going to struggle a lot at 1000 points; I'm just hoping I draw the right kind of opponent. Not so worried about the other point limits. 500 especially will be amusing (20x Beserkers w/ Champ and Fist).
Oh yeah it going to struggle

boy I love having pre set narrative objectives for eah round :) ;D

But bear in mind I'm pure awesomesauce and might see an amazing tactic at the word go which you have breezed over and not even considered I'd attempt. :P

Remember on Monday when everyone told me that Chris' Khorne Daemons were going to munch me and I didn't stand a chance and I went 9-0 in Kill Points and tabling him in just over an hour? Yeah, that's right, same might happen on Saturday ;)

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« Reply #32 on: October 14, 2009, 08:48:28 AM »
My army for Saturday is going to struggle a lot at 1000 points; I'm just hoping I draw the right kind of opponent. Not so worried about the other point limits. 500 especially will be amusing (20x Beserkers w/ Champ and Fist).
Oh yeah it going to struggle

boy I love having pre set narrative objectives for eah round :) ;D

But bear in mind I'm pure awesomesauce and might see an amazing tactic at the word go which you have breezed over and not even considered I'd attempt. :P

Remember on Monday when everyone told me that Chris' Khorne Daemons were going to munch me and I didn't stand a chance and I went 9-0 in Kill Points and tabling him in just over an hour? Yeah, that's right, same might happen on Saturday ;)

OR - "our Nobz bikers should be able to handle those Mega Nobz, no need to charge the boyz in as well "  :P
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« Reply #33 on: October 14, 2009, 11:28:55 AM »
I also vote we ban anyone who has less than 342 posts on the basis that they're not an active member of the forum! ;D
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« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2009, 11:47:55 AM »
I propose nobody with less than 11051 posts is allowed to attend.
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« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2009, 02:37:03 PM »
I propose nobody with less than 11051 posts is allowed to attend.

just you going then? lol

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« Reply #36 on: October 14, 2009, 02:41:03 PM »
I also vote we ban anyone who has less than 342 posts on the basis that they're not an active member of the forum! ;D
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« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2009, 06:52:39 PM »
I propose nobody with less than 11051 posts is allowed to attend.

just you going then? lol

ill be back for this one, will have to try and motivate myself to paint my other armies so im not using demons all the time lol

Nope, it will be me, Ardeth Rasmus, Bacon Rummy and TheMightyPikachu, who's not been around for beslubbering YEARS. Should be a gay old time
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« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2009, 11:24:35 AM »
From a purely painting point of view setting the points value for the tournie should be done as early as possible to allow contenders to focus on the truly terrifying prospect ahead.  :'(

I will turn up with one of three armies just damn well cant figure out which!  ;D

1500pts allows easy comparison to other UK based tournies. It also means less painting than 1700 or 2000 so i favour it.
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« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2009, 02:51:37 AM »
I will turn up with one of three armies just damn well cant figure out which!  ;D

face it you'll only paint another 2 models in the next 10 months so you'll be using the same list agian :P lmao
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