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Title: Conclaves of the Asur
Post by: Myen'Tal on June 4, 2018, 07:25:48 PM
So it begins... with the dabbing of an ink feather upon the page of a dusted tome. You are the meek ones that wonder and observe, purposed with an undying task of cataloging the ambitions of high-minded societies, enigmatic horrors, and brutish and rampaging hordes... So shall we begin?

Welcome, everyone from all corners of the world to my Project Log. All visitors, from the humble beginner to the seasoned veterans of the forum, I hope you guys enjoy your stay and like the content you should see coming in the near future! After a number of requests to try my hand in 40konline's storied Project Logs (granted, those requests were a couple months ago :P), I decided that I would surprise everyone and actually start one! I have given over to peer pressure ;D!

So... I've long been contemplating what my first project would actually be and what I intended for it. I tossed around the idea of starting with 40000 for one year, then moving onto Age of Sigmar, or vice-versa, or a combination of both.

You can see from the thread subject that the Idoneth Deepkin stole away the other factions' envoys into the depths of the great oceans. So, let's summarize:

PROJECT I:
Faction: Idoneth Deepkin
Points: 2000
Conclave: Mor'Phann
Army Composition: Balanced, all-comers list. (Nope, decided against the all-cavalry force, but maybe one day!!!)

Current Status: I don't have anything painted at the moment, as the Chronicle is only just beginning... But!! I thought I'd show some pictures of me gathering my army and building the models, and acquiring supplies! Rest assured, I'll have everything I need to begin probably sometime next week!

So here is the Wave of my Idoneth, plus a small band of Ironjawz!

Imgur: The magic of the Internet (https://imgur.com/cWTjwjn)
Imgur: The magic of the Internet (https://imgur.com/rNei0PK)
Imgur: The magic of the Internet (https://imgur.com/9aMfZbO)

EDIT: Sorry, having trouble with the pictures!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: Looshkin on June 4, 2018, 07:35:13 PM
Welcome to the Projects MyenTal!

I'm stoked that you've decided to work on Idoneth Deepkin, because it's part of the reason why my Plog has been quiet for the past few weeks...the models are terrific and I'm sure you'll enjoy painting them. That said, one or two of the fits for the Eel riders is a little bit taxing, while the flying bases will likely have you swearing until you're blue in the face.

Best of luck bud, I'm looking forward to following this with great interest.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: Myen'Tal on June 4, 2018, 07:44:44 PM
Thanks, Loosh :D!

I didn't realize you were also working on Idoneth, that's awesome! Cannot wait to see them in your log! Hmm, surprised that the Eel riders are a little difficult to work with, they seemed simple from the screenshots I've seen. Guess I'll find that out in a little bit. Another reason that I should get those citadel tweezers!

I'm also really looking forward to this project, as I've anticipated doing it for what seems like forever now ;D.

EDIT: After assembling a pair of the Akhelian Guard, I can confirm that some areas of the model are pretty finicky! Kind of glad I'm not doing that all cavalry force now ;D.

Finished building my first unit of Akhelian Guard. Not the simplest models to assemble, but it felt good to complete the models!

Added some unit images below. Please tell me how the lighting is, if the light is bright, then I'll adjust and tone it down. Also how does one name image links again?

Imgur: The magic of the Internet (https://imgur.com/AFtK0mX)
Imgur: The magic of the Internet (https://imgur.com/nLQ27ko)
Imgur: The magic of the Internet (https://imgur.com/4fxrH5Y)
Imgur: The magic of the Internet (https://imgur.com/jDEaJXW)
Imgur: The magic of the Internet (https://imgur.com/YiCeHQ1)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: Looshkin on June 5, 2018, 04:40:50 AM
EDIT: After assembling a pair of the Akhelian Guard, I can confirm that some areas of the model are pretty finicky! Kind of glad I'm not doing that all cavalry force now ;D.

Finished building my first unit of Akhelian Guard. Not the simplest models to assemble, but it felt good to complete the models!

They look great MyenTal. They are tricky to work with. Most things fall into place really nicely, but I've really struggled on a couple getting the rider seated and the reins to line up. Part of the problem of painting in subsections and then building I guess.

Just don't talk to me about the reins on the Akhelian King. I may well end up snipping them off entirely!

Added some unit images below. Please tell me how the lighting is, if the light is bright, then I'll adjust and tone it down. Also how does one name image links again?

I'd say that the light is just from the wrong direction at the moment. With the light source behind the models, a lot of the detail gets lost. The images are nice and sharp, but parts are underexposed. Move the light around, or better, have multiple sources of light, to find the best results. Can't help with the image links I'm afraid...I'm a Flikr man!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: Cavalier on June 5, 2018, 06:29:47 AM
Sweet! Looking forward to seeing some paint on these guys. The Deepkin are beyond awesome models... and the Eel Riders are the coolest dudes of them all. I cant wait to some of their bits are available on ebay. I've got some kitbash ideas for my Eldar.

Thanks for joining the paint squad Myental glad to have you aboard! Great updates so far. Cant wait for more
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: dog_of_war on June 5, 2018, 07:25:40 PM
For imgur, on a mobile phone, press and hold on the image, an option will come up, select share image link. Copy it to your clipboard. Then when your typing your post put in square brackets IMG followed by /IMG in square brackets with your link pasted in between.

Sweet models by the way. Really psyched on following this project.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: Myen'Tal on June 5, 2018, 07:33:37 PM
Thanks for all of the encouragements and advice guys. Before I get started next week, I do have an important question that will impact my paint process for my Mor'phann. So for the Akhelian Skintone, I was planning on priming them white, then layering with Flayed One Flesh, followed with a highlight of Wych flesh. The scheme I'm going for with the eels however, would be best primed with Mehanicus Standard Grey. Do you guys think I could still achieve a fair look to the skin if I based first with the new Ionrach Skin, then layering on the Flayed One Flesh?

EDIT: Another model built, this time the Akhelian King. Which I made some modeling mistakes on, with me using the normal king torso instead of Volturnous' XP. Oh well, I still like him well enough! ;)

Akhelian King (https://imgur.com/7REsOVG)
Akhelian King 2nd Image (https://imgur.com/B3zxQsh)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: Dread on June 7, 2018, 02:12:38 AM
I really want these models too, but just can't afford them right now. As for the question at hand, I use white primer for all brightly colored models and black for dark. I haven't used grey primer on models in years, only on my hotrods. Water based craft paints work differently for me, I prefer black primer and layer darker to lighter shades to acheive brighter colors. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: Myen'Tal on June 7, 2018, 09:20:03 PM
Thanks for the information, Dread, that should really help me out :)! I definitely agree that Idoneth aren't the cheapest army to start. I thought I could purchase everything I needed to start painting by next week, but after calculating the cost, I'm going to have to choose between Paint/Supplies and new models XP. I think I'm going to buy all of my Namarti units tomorrow... we'll see how it goes.

Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: Myen'Tal on June 10, 2018, 01:12:36 AM
Quick update: The Akhelians answer the summons of the Enclave! Rumors abound that the final kinband to arrive from the moonlit shores of Gloom Haven has failed to arrive due to some inconceivably minor slight (Haven't gotten around to them!) Akehlian King Annith-hain the Scarred, rides on without them, knowing that his erstwhile and eager cousins shall not be able to resist a heroic intervention from the shadows at the last possible moment (They're on their way!)

Akhelians ride into battle! (https://imgur.com/mETXXeb)

 Ishlaen Lochian Prince (https://imgur.com/gLfQHBc)

 Mustering of House Gloom Haven under King Annith'hain (https://imgur.com/AvOEOCF)

 Kinband of the Glimmer Shoal (https://imgur.com/KPg06DM)

Beneath the depths of the great Void Rift Sea, an eerie chant echoes from within the Great Mor'phann enclave of Ebonspire. From labyrinthine Palaces of moon-touched quicksilver and volcanic obsidian, great schools of the Akhelian Warriors swarm through the great rift toward the surface. A legion of countless thousands of namarti slaves cut through the frozen depths with their High Born masters, the sweep of their weapons through razor-finned schools synced with the rhythmic pulse of the war drums. Beneath the heart of the Gloom Haven Phalanx, perhaps something even more ancient than the great city itself stirs upon the ocean floor.

Army Name:

Gloom Haven Sentinels

Allegiance: Idoneth Deepkin
 - Enclave: Mor'Phann

LEADERS
Vulturnos, High King of the Deep (King Annith'hain the Scarred One)
- General

Lotann, Warden of the Soul Ledgers (Aryriel, the Ancestral Keeper)

Isharann Soulrender (Ithiryn Void-Caller)

Isharann Soulscryer (Atannis the Radiant One)

UNITS
3 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard (The Shadow-Shoal Reavers)
3 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard (Sentinels of the Mor'khaine Temple)
3 x Akhelian Ishlaen Guard (Scions of Mathlann)
20 x Namarti Thralls (The Oathbound)
20 x Namarti Thralls (The Silent Vigil)
10 x Namarti Reavers (The Bleak Watchers)
10 x Namarti Reavers (The Black-Bane Kindred)

BATTALIONS
Namarti Corps

NOTE: You might be seeing another Akheian King become the new Annith'hain, as I made some mistakes with the first model, because I decided to just go by eyesight instead of reading the directions :P.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: Cavalier on June 10, 2018, 07:23:29 AM
Looking good man. Love the little descriptions too, really well written. Just saw the Deepkin in person for the first time yesterday and just loved the models. Also too bad about not following the instructions. Doing commission painting for a living I can tell you... I have to follow instructions on even the simplest minis as there are so many weird little bits these days. That being said the instructions are very easy to follow. Anyway looking forward to seeing some paint on these guys! Looking good!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: Myen'Tal on June 10, 2018, 06:46:30 PM
@Cavalier: Hey thanks man, I'm stoked that you like what I've built so far! The models are truly amazing, you won't regret getting some of those Idoneth bits ;D! Cannot wait to see what you do with them. I'm not sure when I'll start painting, but the plan is to begin in the next couple of weeks or so, but it just depends on a couple of factors. Glad you like the backstory I'm weaving into the army. Might add some more when I actually get them on the table! :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: Ynneadwraith on June 11, 2018, 10:10:48 AM
Awesome :) massive fan of the fluff snippets. Can't wait for some painted dudes to go alongside them ;)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: Myen'Tal on June 17, 2018, 02:58:54 AM
Awesome :) massive fan of the fluff snippets. Can't wait for some painted dudes to go alongside them ;)

Thanks, Ynnead, that means a lot! ;D

An ill wind stirs from the granite maw of the Abyssal Pit, a bleak squall that reeks of the earthy scent of death and decay. The Deathless God's ire piques with untamed rage, and the ominous wind that flutters through the ocean depths becomes a vicious squall that shreds flesh from bone. As the Grand Halls of Ebonspire endure the unnatural storm, a legion of Gheists and forlorn, lost spirits surge upon the undersea currents in an effort to drown the Idoneth Deepkin beneath an endless tide of the enslaved and the tortured.

As Ebonspire withstands legions beyond count, Annith'hain commands the Gloom Haven Host to establish a beachhead upon the shores of Shyish. It was upon the Shore of Old Incanth that Annith'hain pledged his friendship and honor-pact with Lord Arcanum Tibalt Von Saarland of the Anvils of the Heldenhammer Sancrosanct Chamber, creating the Ebon Pact Alliance... but as Sigmar Heldenhammer extends aid with one hand, the other shall soon bring down the hammerstrike of vengeance.

A vengeance often heralded with a storm that gleams both polished gold and oceanic blue...


(TLDR: Soul Wars is coming! Anvils of the Heldenhammer for the Stormcasts, not sure about the Nighthaunt yet as I haven't seen their background. Hammers of Sigmar take up arms against Specter and soul-stealer!)

The Kinband Assembled!!! (https://imgur.com/qw4dwjT)

Morsarr Guard Pic 1 (https://imgur.com/q4qqjCL)

Morsarr Guard Pic 2 (https://imgur.com/iWLA65z)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: Cavalier on June 17, 2018, 04:03:02 PM
Looking good man! Any thought to painting up a few so you dont have too big a mountain of stuff to paint before you are done assembling?
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: Myen'Tal on June 17, 2018, 05:30:59 PM
Looking good man! Any thought to painting up a few so you dont have too big a mountain of stuff to paint before you are done assembling?

Funny you mention that, Cav! I may have jumped the gun a little, but I'm rethinking my strategy on Soul Wars. I'll postpone the new Starter Set and just get the books and stuff, and put that money towards some paint and supplies instead. You're right, that's too many minis to paint! ;D, Hopefully, I'll be able to start actually painting sometime this weekend. Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: Looshkin on June 18, 2018, 05:41:56 PM
Cracking progress MyenTal.

I echo Cav though...get some paint on some of these bad boys. They have stacks of details to paint and I wouldn't want to see you get burnt out because you have too much bare plastic to paint!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: Myen'Tal on June 24, 2018, 07:25:47 PM
Quick Update:

So the Akhelian Guard are almost ready for some painting sessions (Almost, I think I'm going to increase my Ishlaen Guard to six models). I've received orders for most of my miscellaneous supplies a couple days ago, but now I am just waiting on the Paints and Brushes to ship out from the Warstore (Along with the Citadel Paint Handle!). Not sure when it's going to ship because I ordered a *lot* of supplies that I'll need to tackle my entire Idoneth Army.

You can bet that I'll keep you guys updated as things progress. Just wanted to let everyone know that I haven't forgotten about the project ;D!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: Myen'Tal on July 1, 2018, 07:17:39 AM
Small updates here!

Some new editions to the Enclave... and some primer prep underway (https://imgur.com/HwnfKyT)

Also more paint prep... test run for paint pre-thinning and transfer over to dropper bottles. (https://imgur.com/HvhZOws)

Gloom Wood Sentinels List:

Allegiance: Idoneth Deepkin
 - Enclave: Mor'Phann
LEADERS:
Isharann Soulrender (Myrmidon the Evening Star)
- General
- Command Trait : Born From Agony
- Artefact : Terrornight Venom

Isharann Tidecaster (Selena the Abyssal Traveler)
- Artefact : Lliandra's Last Lament
- Lore of the Deeps : Freezing Mists

Lotann, Warden of the Soul Ledgers (Attanis the Radiant One)

UNITS
30 x Namarti Thralls (The Silent Vigil)
30 x Namarti Thralls (The Oathbound)
10 x Namarti Reavers (The Bleak Watchers)
10 x Namarti Reavers (The Black-Bane Kindred)
6 x Akhelian Ishlaen Guard (Sentinels of the Mor'khaine Temple)
6 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard (Shadow-Shoal Reavers)

BATTALIONS
Namarti Corps

2000/2000
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: Myen'Tal on July 5, 2018, 09:48:31 PM
So it begins (https://imgur.com/CGwEbzj)

Painting begins this weekend, can't think of any other way to spend a long weekend ;D.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Project I: Idoneth Deepkin)
Post by: Myen'Tal on July 9, 2018, 11:48:05 PM
At long last, I have taken great strides to paint my first model in three years! All comments and critique is welcome, just be gentle ;). I will say that I did buy the Soul Wars box set and that kind of delayed me in getting started on painting, as I wanted to prime the Stormcast and Idoneth in one go with some black primer. Also please note that the coastal base is not yet finished. Still have to apply the realistic water effects!

EDITED!: Thank you, SeekingOne!

(https://i.imgur.com/6JbW70d.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NLylaCB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/k84GSGv.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (First Painted Model Up!)
Post by: SeekingOne on July 10, 2018, 03:17:37 AM
I'm using Imgur all the time - it's the only resource that works well for me. But I use it from PC - its smartphone app does something silly with uploading images.

Thing is, you don't want to make "Posts" in Imgur. Instead, in your profile you have to go to the "Images" page that looks like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/cHPNAjG.png)

If it's empty, you click "Add Images" and upload an image. Then you click on an added image and get the following screen:
(https://i.imgur.com/MRvTQw7.png)
You click on the blue button "Copy" beside the field labelled "BBCode (message boards and forums)" (the one that I highlighted with a red box) - it will copy a BBcode that you then simply paste into you forum post, and that's it.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (First Painted Model Up!)
Post by: magenb on July 11, 2018, 09:33:51 AM
great job on the reaver,  nice balance of colours, and the water should look fantastic with a coat of water effects.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (First Painted Model Up!)
Post by: Killersquid on July 11, 2018, 11:58:59 AM
Buddy is looking great! The Deepkin line is absolutely gorgeous and your scheme does them well.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (First Painted Model Up!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on July 11, 2018, 08:52:21 PM
Buddy is looking great! The Deepkin line is absolutely gorgeous and your scheme does them well.

great job on the reaver,  nice balance of colours, and the water should look fantastic with a coat of water effects.

Thanks guys, that means a lot ;D! I think I need a little more patience when applying thin layers onto the model when it doesn't cover well. You can kind of see on the skin that a little bit of the detail got lost. So I'm going to be a bit more careful on the other models.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (First Painted Model Up!)
Post by: Looshkin on July 12, 2018, 09:25:46 AM

Thanks guys, that means a lot ;D! I think I need a little more patience when applying thin layers onto the model when it doesn't cover well. You can kind of see on the skin that a little bit of the detail got lost. So I'm going to be a bit more careful on the other models.

Being patient with thin layers/bad coverage of paint is probably the hardest thing to do imho. I'm forever regretting moments when the first layer doesn't go on as I'd like and then I'm like 'maybe I'll just do a slightly thicker coat....why God...whhhyyyyyy??!!!!'

As it is, I think you've done a good job. The palette that you've chosen is excellent. The vibrancy of the pink especially draws the eye in well. Everything else being muted acts as a perfect counterpoint.

Really nice start Myen'Tal....now, where did I put my Reavers...
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (First Painted Model Up!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on July 12, 2018, 09:10:31 PM

Being patient with thin layers/bad coverage of paint is probably the hardest thing to do imho. I'm forever regretting moments when the first layer doesn't go on as I'd like and then I'm like 'maybe I'll just do a slightly thicker coat....why God...whhhyyyyyy??!!!!'

As it is, I think you've done a good job. The palette that you've chosen is excellent. The vibrancy of the pink especially draws the eye in well. Everything else being muted acts as a perfect counterpoint.

Really nice start Myen'Tal....now, where did I put my Reavers...

Thanks for the compliments, Loosh, and thanks for the advice too, I'll have to use some extra temperance to let the paint dry ;D. I admit, I still really love the Fuethan color scheme, but I agree that there is a subtle dark beauty to the Mor'Phann that I too find really cool.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (First Painted Model Up!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on July 22, 2018, 11:31:57 PM
Work-In-Progress:

Having finished the test model some few weeks ago, I have now started the assembly line for getting these guys painted, five at a time. They still have a few rough spots that need neatening up, their gems haven't been worked on yet, and the bases are still bare... but they are nearing completion ;D.

On another note, I am going to have find a different method of shading the skin then the Drakenhof Nightshade I am using. I do thin down the nightshade with lahmian medium, but the shade is still way too dark. It's not that noticeable on the male Reavers, but on the female variants, the shade is a bit harsher. I think I am going to switch out the nightshade for some Gulliman Blue for the next Reavers I paint.

(https://i.imgur.com/TEgrgVK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SfK290n.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (First Painted Model Up!)
Post by: magenb on July 23, 2018, 01:20:35 AM
On another note, I am going to have find a different method of shading the skin then the Drakenhof Nightshade I am using. I do thin down the nightshade with lahmian medium, but the shade is still way too dark. It's not that noticeable on the male Reavers, but on the female variants, the shade is a bit harsher.

I ran into the same problem, as nightshade was just too dark, so I put a lot more Lahmian in the mix, then did a thin coat of pallid wych flesh on to. I also ran across someone that basically turned fenrisian grey to a shade, I might try that on a thrall.

I should note that I undercoat in white though.

Still they look great :)

Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Blazinghand on July 23, 2018, 02:33:18 AM
I like the way the highlighting is done on the robes/capes! I'll have to give that a try. Looking solid so far.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Killersquid on July 23, 2018, 08:26:59 AM
Looking great! I like the way you've based the finished one as well!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (First Painted Model Up!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on July 23, 2018, 09:00:09 PM
I ran into the same problem, as nightshade was just too dark, so I put a lot more Lahmian in the mix, then did a thin coat of pallid wych flesh on to. I also ran across someone that basically turned fenrisian grey to a shade, I might try that on a thrall.

I should note that I undercoat in white though.

Still they look great :)

Actually if you're still looking for a good shade, I think Gulliman Blue Glaze is what I'm going to experiment with next. I think that's what the heavy metal team uses for their Namarti.

And thanks for the compliments :D.

I like the way the highlighting is done on the robes/capes! I'll have to give that a try. Looking solid so far.

Thanks, Blazinghand, I don't think I even intended for the cloaks to come out that way. They kind of look like they're made of water and that's super cool 8). If you're interested in how I did the cloak. It's basically Stegadon Scale Green, followed with a heavy wash of Nuln Oil, then the raised areas are brightened back up with Stegadon Scale Green, then a highlight on the higher folds with Russ Grey, then a final highlight of Fenrisian Grey.

Looking great! I like the way you've based the finished one as well!

Thanks, Squid, I'm actually following a YouTube tutorial for the basing, but I think it's turned out very well too. I was a bit hesitant because I thought I'd muck it up, but it's actually come out quite decently ;D.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on July 23, 2018, 10:20:56 PM
well if you want to give the fenrisian grey a shot, here is what happened from my testing on my thralls with a 50/50 mix lahmian. The one on the left has a had a thin layer of pallid wych flesh.

https://i.imgur.com/0rNl3cu.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/0rNl3cu.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on July 23, 2018, 11:00:28 PM
well if you want to give the fenrisian grey a shot, here is what happened from my testing on my thralls with a 50/50 mix lahmian. The one on the left has a had a thin layer of pallid wych flesh.

http://i.imgur.com/0rNl3cu.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/0rNl3cu.jpg)

Huh, that actually looks great :D! I think I will give this a shot! It seems similar to the effect that Guilliman Blue has, but this one seems a bit more subtle and still complements the Namarti quite well. Did you thin it with just lahmian medium?
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on July 23, 2018, 11:39:34 PM
Huh, that actually looks great :D! I think I will give this a shot! It seems similar to the effect that Guilliman Blue has, but this one seems a bit more subtle and still complements the Namarti quite well. Did you thin it with just lahmian medium?

Cheers. Yeah just the medium, probably more medium than paint as I didn't measure it. I do like the lighter effect it has over nightshade as well :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Looshkin on July 24, 2018, 06:10:18 AM
I love those Reavers Myen'Tal. The cloaks look like a particularly stormy sea...the colours are excellent and really compliment the models wonderfully. The completed base looks terrific too. Keep up the excellent work!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on July 24, 2018, 11:27:38 PM
I love those Reavers Myen'Tal. The cloaks look like a particularly stormy sea...the colours are excellent and really compliment the models wonderfully. The completed base looks terrific too. Keep up the excellent work!

Thanks, Loosh, glad you like them! I'm also liking the way the test base turned out. And the cloaks look way cooler in reality than I imagined them. Whoever created the Mor'Phann scheme made a great choice :). On a side note, I decided to follow your advice and grab some of the White Dwarf Magazines for more inspiration for painting my Akhelian Guard. I haven't touched them yet because I'm not sure yet how to tackle them. Hopefully, this will teach me a few tricks!

@Everyone: Thank you everyone for the comments and feedback, you guys are really inspiring me to keep this going ;D! On a side note, I purchased one box of Namarti Thralls and two boxes of Allopexes... based on the decision that I want to try Allopexes in my list! I'm going to finish the Reaver squad in full before I move on to the next unit.

Here is the current list that I have (which may or may not be a little Magenb influenced ;D.


Allegiance: Idoneth Deepkin - Mortal Realm: Hysh
 - Enclave: Mor'Phann

LEADERS

Isharann Soulrender
- General
- Command Trait : Born From Agony
- Artefact : Aetherquartz Brooch

Isharann Tidecaster
- Artefact : Lens of Refraction
- Lore of the Deeps : Freezing Mists (Mor'Phann Tidecasters)

UNITS:
10 x Namarti Thralls
10 x Namarti Thralls
10 x Namarti Thralls
10 x Namarti Reavers
10 x Namarti Reavers
6 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard (320)
1 x Akhelian Allopexes (Retarius Net Launcher)
1 x Akhelian Allopexes (Retarius Net Launcher)

BEHEMOTHS:
Akhelian Leviadon

BATTALIONS:
Namarti Corps

TOTAL: 1980
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on July 25, 2018, 05:18:05 PM
Sweet list :)

I had a quick game just using the Namarti Corps, Bretonian knights cleanout out a 10 man squad on charge, it might be worth having a 20 man squad of thralls, not sure if it will workout in the battleshock phase though.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on July 25, 2018, 09:40:23 PM
Sweet list :)

I had a quick game just using the Namarti Corps, Bretonian knights cleanout out a 10 man squad on charge, it might be worth having a 20 man squad of thralls, not sure if it will workout in the battleshock phase though.

Yeah, that's something I've taken into consideration. I'll probably experiment between 20 / 10 man squads and 10 / 10 / 10 man squads.

The Namarti are a bit fragile on their own, but I think the Namarti Corps will become much tougher with the extra strength of support units. A Leviadon is going to make nearby Namarti more durable, but once you add in some more akhelian units (and even the leviadon himself), you can set up some devastating counter charges that can punish your opponent (if the dice gods will it!).

 I imagine if that unit of Bretonnian Knights charged and cleared out a bunch of Namarti, a group of semi-nearby Akhelians can easily close the gap, get in a charge, add in the extra damage from their successful charge, then pop the Bio-voltaic spear for the game, they could probably chew on that unit (and there is also the Fangmora Eels' bite!). That's what I plan to use my Morsaar Guard for. The Allopexes will also serve as a close range threat. Harassing enemies with the 2-3 damage (Cannot remember which one) Retarius Net Launchers, before they slip into the back of some crucial combats and hopefully deal in some good blows. Then like the Morsaar Guard, I plan for them to slip back in and out until the foe crumbles.

Doubt it'll work like that in practice :P, but the plan has to begin somewhere!

 The Akhelian Allopexes or the Leviadon could easily do the same I think. As an alternative, Ishlaen Guard can become your anvil for the Namarti to lay down some hammer blows of their own.

Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on July 26, 2018, 05:23:00 PM
I'll be interested to see how those shark fair.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on July 26, 2018, 09:26:58 PM
I'll be interested to see how those shark fair.

I am also really curious about the performance of the Allopexes :D. I've been on the fence about these guys for a little while, but I'm thinking I underestimated their value in my initial impression of them. I have high hopes for them now, plus the models look so cool! Not sure when I'll get around to playing a game though. I think I want to finish my force first, unless one of my friends come up and visit for a game, in which case them being unpainted doesn't really matter.

I'll definitely share my experience with them either way ;D!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on July 29, 2018, 08:20:59 PM
Update time! Gloom Haven Assembles! ;D I'm actually kind of annoyed by own clumsiness. While trying to take a picture I managed to drop a Lochian Prince and break him off of his base... now neither plastic glue or super glue with reseat him back on it. Guess I'm switching him out for the Ishlean Prince for now! Also, I do not know whose grand design was it to create how some of the Namarti Reaver models go together, but some of them are super frustrating. I managed to complete another squad last night, but I've managed to completely destroy one of the Reavers... leaving me with 9 >:(. So I'll have to find someway to replace that too.

Other than that, the only units still missing from the list is one more unit of Namarti Thralls, and a Leviadon Turtle. That's it!

Also I finished six Reavers so far!

(https://i.imgur.com/xTJJtfn.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NS1EXdf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VVUCfIc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mPZrOeM.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on July 31, 2018, 06:30:20 PM
Also, I do not know whose grand design was it to create how some of the Namarti Reaver models go together, but some of them are super frustrating. I managed to complete another squad last night, but I've managed to completely destroy one of the Reavers... leaving me with 9 >:(. So I'll have to find someway to replace that too.

Reavers are looking good there mate.

They are not the easiest thing to the put together, especially the ones you have 3 pieces for the bottom half. Maybe there is a way to salvage the model with a bit of creative basing, like they are riding a wave in :)


I managed to drop a Lochian Prince and break him off of his base... now neither plastic glue or super glue with reseat him back on it. Guess I'm switching him out for the Ishlean Prince for now!

It is sounding like he is not sticking to the seat? I'm assuming you have already removed any bits of dried glue and scratched some of the under coat away at contact points so the plastic glue can do its thing. So "pinning" might be an option.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on July 31, 2018, 10:00:05 PM
Thanks for the compliments and the advice, Mage, it is appreciated ;D. Yeah, it was one of the Reavers with like the three piece lower body. Too many of the details kind of got melted by the glue, so I'm just going to see if I find something in the bitz stores. As for the Akhelian, he didn't break off of his seat, but the piece where the mount is joined to the clear plastic rod attached to the base. Tried scraping away the glue and melted plastic, but unfortunately, it's much more difficult on the actual plastic rod itself. Will probably just order a new base I think.

Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on August 1, 2018, 05:45:27 PM
As for the Akhelian, he didn't break off of his seat, but the piece where the mount is joined to the clear plastic rod attached to the base.

OK that's not too bad, you can still make something on the base itself to work around it. You could do a rock sticking out of the water (google the twelve apostles Australia), or it could be riding a giant wave, that would look awesome :)

Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on August 1, 2018, 08:48:17 PM
Good ideas, Mage, though I might be too lazy to capitalize on them ;). I'll think upon what I want to do with that Prince. The worst case scenario, I just end up buying another plastic rod and base. :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Cavalier on August 4, 2018, 11:50:51 AM
Damn Myen-Tal... you've been holding out on us! These paint jobs are freaking great! The color pallet and paint jobs are fantastic! That warlock purple is the killer touch! How bout those bases though? Fantastic! Truly love your stuff man, keep rocking!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on August 4, 2018, 10:07:46 PM
Damn Myen-Tal... you've been holding out on us! These paint jobs are freaking great! The color pallet and paint jobs are fantastic! That warlock purple is the killer touch! How bout those bases though? Fantastic! Truly love your stuff man, keep rocking!

Thank you, Cavalier, I'm glad that you like them! Wouldn't say I've been holding out, just never really put this kind of effort into my painting before. All of the years spent acquiring knowledge from youtube seems to have paid off somewhat! ;D

Battle Report:

So I have finally gotten in my first game of Age of Sigmar... and it was quite a learning experience! It was a 2 vs 2 game of 1700 Points, it was kind of half Open Play, half matched play and I'll explain why. First off, everyone agreed that each faction had free access to all of the endless spells, just to experiment with them. One side consisted of Legions of Nagash and Idoneth Deepkin (me!), while the other consisted of Khorne Bloodbound and Grand Alliance Chaos Skaven.

We didn't really go over the list used, but here is how I remember them.

Bloodbound:

1x Bloodsecrator
2x Slaughter Priests
1x Khorne Lord on Juggernaught (General)
20x Bloodreavers
20x Bloodreavers
15x Blood Warriors
1x Khorgorath
5x Wrathmongers
5x Skull Reapers

Skaven:

Lots of Clanrats
15x Stormvermin
x20 Plague Monks
1x Skaven Warlord
1x Warp Engineer
1x Warlock
1x Warp lightning cannon

Legions of Nagash:
1x Nagash
1x Necromancer
1x Banshee
-Lots of Zombies (like 60!)
-5 Hexwraiths
-8x Glaivewraith Stalkers
-20 Skeletons

Deepkin:

1x Soulrender
1x Tidecaster
1x Allied Lord Arcanum of Gryph Charger
10x Namarti Thralls
10x Namarti Thralls
10x Namarti Reavers
10x Namarti Reavers
1x Allopex
1x Allopex
6x Morssar Guard


Deployment:

So we rolled off for the mission and decided on the Total Commitment Battle plan. Four objectives placed on the right and left-most quadrants of the table. No objectives in the center of the table. My Deepkin faced off against the Khorne Bloodbound, while the Death forces lined up against the skaven. On my side of the map was a fortress of sorts, with an Ocularum between me and the Khornates. Lots of terrain on the board, I was able to borrow a Gloomtide Shipwreck that placed in two spots along the board's center.

Here, I made my first mistake. I deployed my Reavers as the frontline so I harry the foe as they charged forward... not that grandest idea ;D. Behind them were two lines of Namarti, because the board was somewhat crowded and I wanted to deploy within the ruined fortress. The allopex were placed on the right flank to reinforce Nagash's flank, while the Morssar Guard were placed on the left flank.

Turn 1:

The Deepkin-Death alliance won the first turn and decided to go first... another mistake, as we could really cast no magic except mystic shield. Mystic Shield failed to go off on the Eel Riders, but did manage to get it off on the Lord Arcanum. On the left flank, Bloodreavers anchored the Khorne Bloodbound, backed up with a Slaughter Priest and a Bloodsecrator behind them. So I considered an alpha strike to crumble that flank and hopefully push into the Bloodsecrator.

The first squad of Reavers unleashed the first salvo of their aimed fire, but the other squad was out of range. The Reavers picked off three Bloodreavers, not bad for 10 shots. I made another mistake here and got too aggressive with my Akhelians. The Morrsar Guard raced up the flank and made their charge on a 9. I was able to surround many of the Blood Reavers and get a pair of Akhelians on the Slaughter Priest. 6 Blood Reavers were hacked down by the Volt-Spears, the Fanged Maws whiffed unfortunately however, but the lashing tails inflicted 3 damage on the Slaughter Priest.

As for Death, the Zombies moved forward. The Hexwraiths also alpha striked and cut down the Plague Monks to like 6-8 models.

At the end of our turn, we scored 2 Victory points.

On the Bloodbound turn, the Bloodsecrator popped his banner and the Wrathmongers and Blood Reavers countered charged my Akhelians. The Reavers inflicted negligible damage, and some of the Khornate Prayers managed to outright kill of their elite number. The slaughter Priest also swung and inflicted 2 wounds. What the Reavers and Priest could not achieve, the buffed up Wrathmongers obliterated in one attempt. Akhelians are no. Lesson learned :P.

Turn 2-and-onward summary:

The Namarti Reavers managed to pick off several models throughout turns 2-3, a 2-and-a-half blood warriors, and like 3 more reavers. Some my archers were cut off by a nasty command ability that allowed the Blood Reavers to charge in my own hero phase and fight. That 10 man unit was wiped out. So I backed off my other reaver squad to sit under the Gloomtide Shipwreck and harrow the enemy from there.

As if that Bloodbound trick was not enough, another command ability lured one of my Namarti Thralls out into the open toward the Bloodsecrator, allowing them to be charged by the Skullreapers. That 10 man unit was also wiped out without getting a chance to fight back. My other Thrall Unit cut down the Blood Reavers without breaking a sweat or loosing anyone and also dragged two-and-half wrathmongers down with them.

My Magic phase was pretty much non-existent thanks to the Bloodbound's ability to resist any magic. The lord arcanum got off an arcane bolt and blasted the Khorgorath for 2 wounds.

The Allopexes were committed too early, their net launchers did zero damage and one of them was outright killed before he could even strike. The surviving allopex managed to chomp down two Blood Warriors though. My initial plan was to rescue the Akhelians with them, but the Akhelians were already slain, so the Allopexes were caught out of position.

The Tidecaster literally did nothing the entire game, but the Lord Arcanum, surrounded by a unit of 20 Blood Reavers, popped each of his three soul flasks, then made his attacks, killing 14 Blood Reavers by himself in one turn 8).

Eventually the Deepkin were overwhelmed and routed on turn 3, but the Nagash proved too strong for the remaining skaven and Bloodbound. Whatever died on the death side simply came back again from the Graveyards or Nagash's command abilities until the Skaven, who had killed probably twice their number, where just whittled away into nothing. The Lightning Cannon claimed the lives of the Necromancer, and then the Banshee sitting on the Death objective later in the game. Most of the stormvermin were dead before the battle on that side of the board became really embroiled.

The Bloodbound did what they could to stem the tide of zombies, but in the end, our team could not be forced off enough objectives, so we won 19-to-17 Victory points.



Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on August 5, 2018, 04:51:13 PM
Sounds like an interesting game. That command ability to allow a unit to charge and fight in the Hero phase seems a bit over the top. The death version at least needs a high roll to fight twice.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on August 5, 2018, 06:08:38 PM
Sounds like an interesting game. That command ability to allow a unit to charge and fight in the Hero phase seems a bit over the top. The death version at least needs a high roll to fight twice.

Ah, I said it was a command ability, I think it was because he spent a certain amount of Blood Tithe points, special currency the Bloodbound get for units being killed.

Sounds like an interesting game. That command ability to allow a unit to charge and fight in the Hero phase seems a bit over the top. The death version at least needs a high roll to fight twice.

By the way, Mage, I think what you said about the Namarti Thralls needing more than the minimal unit is completely correct. Whatever specialized Bloodbound units managed to charge my 10 man Namarti units, all of the Namarti died within the turn the charge was made. I could never use my soulrender's command ability because all of the Namarti squads hit were already hewn down to the last man...

In other words, I think I'm going to have to rethink my list a bit... Probably less Akhelians and more Namarti, Isharann Heroes that can buff them, and probably an Eidolon, Aspect of the Storm. I'm trying to decide between what Akhelian unit I bring in, or if I should bring any. I might save them for an all akhelian Fuethan list one day.

Here is the list that I am thinking about:

Allegiance: Idoneth Deepkin - Mortal Realm: Hysh
 - Enclave: Mor'Phann

LEADERS

Isharann Soulrender
- General
- Command Trait : Born From Agony
- Artefact : Aetherquartz Brooch

Eidolon of Mathlann, Aspect of the Storm
- Artefact : Mirrored Cuirass

Isharann Tidecaster
- Lore of the Deeps : Freezing Mists (Mor'Phann Tidecasters)

Lotann, Warden of the Soul Ledgers

UNITS
30 x Namarti Thralls
20 x Namarti Thralls
10 x Namarti Reavers
10 x Namarti Reavers
2 x Akhelian Allopexes

BATTALIONS
Namarti Corps
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on August 8, 2018, 01:14:21 AM
5 Namarti Thralls on the paint table for the last day or so. They are beginning to come together, but still have some stages left before they're ready for that varnish coat.

Work-In-Progress

(https://i.imgur.com/FCaSSlY.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GGadYvs.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wWIpXnA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/E0AusCt.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NsVlmG5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/29T3A4x.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hDHnJBs.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on August 8, 2018, 01:33:04 AM
looking good. These are going to look great on the table as an army, very gloomy :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Dread on August 8, 2018, 08:58:39 PM
Very nice! Can't wait to see what your bases are gonna look like. Your color choices are spot on, really has a good underwater feel. Keep them coming.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on August 8, 2018, 10:01:39 PM
looking good. These are going to look great on the table as an army, very gloomy :)

Thanks, Mage, it looks and feels quite a bit different than I initially imagined they would, since I originally wanted to do Fuethan' or Nautilar. But I'm actually really digging the Mor'Phann scheme now that I'm seeing it realized as I paint them. Glad that you think I'm capturing that gloom appearance, as that is what I'm going for 100% ;D! I think I'll eventually end up doing the Fuethan scheme anyway for a Themed Akhelian Corp I'm thinking about. But that's for after I complete this force and make some headway into the Nighthaunt and Sancrosanct Chamber.

Out of curiosity, what did you think of the list I made in the battle report post? Do you think the Allopexes should be in that list? Or should I go all Thralls and Leaders?

Very nice! Can't wait to see what your bases are gonna look like. Your color choices are spot on, really has a good underwater feel. Keep them coming.

Thanks, Dread, glad that you are liking them ;D! As for the bases, I think I am going to go for same method as I did for the Reavers, though it might be a bit tougher because the robes are longer on the Thralls than they are on the Reavers. The real hurtle I think is painting the Tidal-Wave cloak on the Eidolon :D, I'm going to try and get that model sometime next week I think. That or more Thralls!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Dread on August 8, 2018, 11:50:30 PM
Ah yes. Went back and looked. I think that's perfect, really gonna look great. If you were gonna do a display board, how would you set it up. This army would look so great on one, like the armies on parade that GW does.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on August 9, 2018, 12:06:11 AM
Ah yes. Went back and looked. I think that's perfect, really gonna look great. If you were gonna do a display board, how would you set it up. This army would look so great on one, like the armies on parade that GW does.

Hmm, that's a good question! I've never done something like creating an actual table before, let alone a display one. I think I would try to make a sandy beach that matches my basing, and have all of the Namarti kind of wading through the tide along the shoreline to kind of meld their bases in. Not certain how successful that would be, but it would be an idea.

Honestly, if I was going to do a display board, then I think I would not even make the sand part of the bases for all the Akhelians Riders and the Eidolon. I would just make an ocean base, like they're riding the waves \ exploding from the sea. I think I might try to do that for my akhelians ;D!

What do you think?
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Dread on August 9, 2018, 01:03:16 AM
I think it'd be great. I'm about to do a grave yard for my nighthaunt,I hope. Sketch it out and see if you like your idea, it always helps.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on August 9, 2018, 06:07:27 PM
Out of curiosity, what did you think of the list I made in the battle report post? Do you think the Allopexes should be in that list? Or should I go all Thralls and Leaders?

Grain of salt as I haven't had many games and have not used them at all, but I'm not sold on how useful Allopexes are, on paper, they don't seem to be very good at either shooting or close combat. In other systems a unit like this would be tanky, but Akhelian Ishlaen guard are tankier and generate almost twice the number of wounds on average. I have a lot oghosts in my area so rend, isn't as big a factor.


I need to go over the rules again, but I think it might be possible to take the High Elf Frostbird thing and the turtle. Thats a good chunk of your army that becomes hard to kill.



Another thing I'm consider is the corps battalion. Without it, the soulrender is still returning an average of 5 models a turn. Freeing up 100 points to play with, you could run a second soulrender and give yourself more room to manuver on the board, or run 30 thralls instead of 20, etc. I'll try and get a couple of games in this weekend, but they will be low point games so, will see what I can come up with.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Killersquid on August 9, 2018, 06:10:37 PM
I can't recommend enough adding in morsar guard. Those eels are probably one of the strongest heavy Calvary unit in the game. Also,they look amazing.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on August 9, 2018, 11:12:51 PM
I think it'd be great. I'm about to do a grave yard for my nighthaunt,I hope. Sketch it out and see if you like your idea, it always helps.

Well, I'll try it out sometime, but with my current living situation, I don't have much room to make a table ;). But it wouldn't hurt to just sketch some stuff out, I suppose :).

Grain of salt as I haven't had many games and have not used them at all, but I'm not sold on how useful Allopexes are, on paper, they don't seem to be very good at either shooting or close combat. In other systems a unit like this would be tanky, but Akhelian Ishlaen guard are tankier and generate almost twice the number of wounds on average. I have a lot oghosts in my area so rend, isn't as big a factor.


I need to go over the rules again, but I think it might be possible to take the High Elf Frostbird thing and the turtle. Thats a good chunk of your army that becomes hard to kill.

Another thing I'm consider is the corps battalion. Without it, the soulrender is still returning an average of 5 models a turn. Freeing up 100 points to play with, you could run a second soulrender and give yourself more room to manuver on the board, or run 30 thralls instead of 20, etc. I'll try and get a couple of games in this weekend, but they will be low point games so, will see what I can come up with.

I agree with you on the Allopex, but I think I'll try them out a couple more times before I make a decision on them. I think I didn't use them well at all in that game I played. I committed them too early, and also I think that they work better in larger units if you're taking multiples of them. I took 2 Allopexes in two different squads. So instead of having them attack together in one unit, I was forced to choose one and let the other one get hacked apart before it could attack :P.

But like I said, I agree, Ishlean Guard are the same price as an Allopex, and they can do much more than the Allopex can. I think I will try and either get the Eidolon next or some more Akhelians so that I can swap out Ishlean / Morrsar Guard at will.

I also like your idea of dropping the Namarti Corps battalion. Could definitely use those points elsewhere like you said. So I'll keep experimenting with that.

I can't recommend enough adding in morsar guard. Those eels are probably one of the strongest heavy Calvary unit in the game. Also,they look amazing.

I like the Morrsar Guard for the same reasons, problem is that they only have that insane damage output on the charge. So you have to charge in, and then spend another turn to cycle out for another charge, but then again the Tides of Battle rule kind of helps mitigate that somewhat. I think I will give these guys another try ;D.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Killersquid on August 10, 2018, 08:16:30 AM
Their bioshock blast can also cripple a unit too, especially in a large squad. It's a great tool to keep tucked away in case they are charged. But, not very many units in the game can survive a charge from Morsar guard, and they are so fast, that you can often plonk them into any target you wish.

If you listen to the honest Wargamer podcast, they recently had a show which was a rundown on just that unit. Certainly something with my Skaven, I'm unsure how to tackle.
Title: Re: Myen\'Tal\'s Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on August 12, 2018, 02:49:53 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/qKiqvGX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZZKXTz3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DBZbdu2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nplXnt8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/05Kn4UV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zFSgWF3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YQDqKYr.jpg)

Current Collection:

2x Isharann Soulrenders
1x Isharann Tidecaster
1x Lotann, Keeper of Souls
20x Namarti Thralls
20x Namarti Reavers
2x Allopex Riders
6x Ishlean Guard
6x Morssar Guard

List Ideas: So I'm actually rethinking what enclave I would like to run... for the sake of lessening the cost of having buy 40 more Thralls for my 2000 pt list. I'll stick with the Mor'Phann color scheme, because I have grown to like it a lot. But right now the coin toss is up on the Briomdar, Fuethan, or Dhom-hain. Right now I'm leaning toward the latter two, but being able to fly for all units for the Briomdar is pretty cool 8).

Allegiance: Idoneth Deepkin - Mortal Realm: Hysh

LEADERS

Isharann Soulrender (100)
- General
- Command Trait : Born From Agony
- Artefact : Aetherquartz Brooch


Isharann Tidecaster (100)

Lotann, Warden of the Soul Ledgers

UNITS

30 x Namarti Thralls
10 x Namarti Reavers
10 x Namarti Reavers
6 x Akhelian Ishlaen Guard
6 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard

BEHEMOTHS

Akhelian Leviadon

ENDLESS SPELLS

Suffocating Gravetide
Prismatic Palisade
Malevolent Maelstrom

 2000/2000

LEADERS

Isharann Soulrender
- General
- Command Trait : Born From Agony
- Artefact : Aetherquartz Brooch

Isharann Tidecaster

Lotann, Warden of the Soul Ledgers

Eidolon of Mathlann, Aspect of the Sea

UNITS

30 x Namarti Thralls
10 x Namarti Reavers
10 x Namarti Reavers
6 x Akhelian Ishlaen Guard
6 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard

TOTAL: 1980/2000

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Well now I know to drybrush the armor before painting most of the other colors. The Thralls have progressed to the next stage, but will need some touch-ups before I move on.  :)

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Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on August 19, 2018, 12:29:44 AM
Battle Report:

Fuethan Enclave (Idoneth Deepkin) vs. Khailebron Temple (Daughters of Khaine)

Mission: Places of Power

2000 Points

Deepkin List:

1x Soulrender: General, Lord of Storm and Sea, Terrornight Venom
1x Soulrender
1x Lotann, Keeper of Souls
1x Tidecaster w/ Vorpal Maelstrom
10x Namarti Thralls
10x Namarti Reavers
10x Namarti Reavers
6x Ishlaen Guard
6x Morrsar Guard
2x Allopexes
Allies:
1x Knight Incantor
5x Sequitors

Daughters of Khaine List:

1x Morathi
1x Bloodwrack Medusae: General, Mirror Glaive
1x Hag Queen (artifact I cannot recall)
30x Witch Elves
5x Blood Sisters
5x Blood Sisters
5x Blood Seekers
5x Blood Seekers
10x Blood Seekers

Battalion: Temple Nest

Deployment:

The deployment zones for the mission split the board into two diagonal halves. Along the diagonal line that separates the players' territories, three objectives are placed. One on either end of the table, one in the northwest and southeast respectively, and a third placed in the center of the board. Only heroes with an artifact or wizards are allowed to hold and score objectives, so my opponent and I deployed accordingly.

Deepkin Deployment:

The Deepkin deployed just outside of the 12" from the DoK's territory, and basically sealed up my half of the board with nice conga line. On the right flank, The Morrsar Guard deployed behind a line of ten namarti thralls, backed by the General Soulrender.  Anchored on the other side of the thralls further toward the center field, Lotann and the other Soulrender perched themselves between the Narmati Thralls and a squad of Reavers behind an Occularum terrain piece.

 In the center, the Sequitors created a bulwark in the small space between the occularum and one half of the Gloomtide Shipwreck placed conveniently just out of reach of the board's center.

On the left flank, another squad of reavers deployed behind an observatory-like terrain piece, backed up by a Tidecaster for further support. On the extreme left flank, the Ishlaen Guard and a squadron of Allopexes stood ready to swarm the northwest objective.

Daughters of Khaine Deployment:

Across from the Deepkin right flank, a token force of 5 Blood Sisters and 5 Blood Seekers deploy to assault the Southeast objective, across from the Morrsar Guard. In the center, 30 Witch Elves mustered for an offensive, backed by Morathi more towards the Idoneth's center-left, Hag Queen, Medusae, and two units of 10 and 5 Blood Seekers skulking in the backfield. Not too far away from the main force, a unit of 5 Blood Sisters anchor the right flank.

Deepkin Turn 1:

So, a horde of 30 witch aelves and Morathi looked like something that I wanted to steer clear away from. So, I decided that I would focus my efforts on the flanks with a swift offensive into his back lines (the dream) and play defensively with the forces anchored in my center.

The Reavers on the right flank advance and climb into the ruins of the Occularum and take up a defensive position. The other reaver squad toward the left flank did likewise and took shelter in the stairs and crumbled wall of the Observatory. Each squad would not do so well with their one-shot firing mode, so my hope here is that my opponent would want to act aggressively and come within 9" of either Reaver Squad, so that I could unleash the 3-shot rapid fire mode with impunity.

The Morrsar Guard burst forth from the aethersea and sail overhead toward the Blood Sisters and Blood Seekers arrayed against them on the right flank. But they do not charge headlong into the first fight, but attempt to stay out of charge range for the turn and form a protective barrier around the Southeast objective. The Namarti and General Soul Render advance toward the objective behind the Morrsar Guard, and form a neat second line behind them. Lotann and the second Soulrender anchor themselves below the Namarti Reaver Squad in the shadow of the Occularum.

The Ishlaen Guard combined with the Allopexes crested the waves on the left flank and created a barrier around the Northwest Objective. The Sequitors and the Knight Incantor shuffle forward to better protect their choke-point. Incantor attempts mystic shield in the magic phase, but fails.

Daughters of Khaine Turn 1:
The Witch Aelves advance toward the center, gifted with Witchbrew from the Hag Queen and enhanced with a quick Mindrazor from the Medusae. Morathi attempts to summon the Black Horror on the Reavers in the Observatory, arcane bolt into the tidecaster. She also may have attempted to mystic shield on a unit, but I don't think that one mattered too much. Arz. Black Horror fails, but the arcane bolt scores a pair of wounds on the Tidecaster, leaving her at three. The Hag Queen also attempts a go at the Blood Sacrement Prayer, but is found unworthy and is wounded.

Seeing an open gap in the Idoneth backlines, the Medusae General unleashes one of her commands and teleport the unit of 10 Bloodseekers in the Southwest, behind the tidecaster and the Namarti Reaver unit garrisoned in the Observatory.

The Bloodseekers unleash their salvo across the Idoneth lines. One of the Morrsar Guard reap two wounds, as do one of the Ishlaen Riders. The unit of 10 Bloodseekers unleash a volley into the tidecaster, but by some instance a grand fortune (Hello, Lookout Sir!), she comes limping away from the fusillade with one wound remaining.

The Bloodsisters on the right flank advanced toward the Ishlaen Guard and sounded the charge. Between them, the Blood Sisters lay low two of the Fangmora Eels and their riders. On the right flank, the Blood Sisters advance toward the wall of an azyrite ruin and hunker down behind it.

Suddenly in the midst of a ferocious battle, the Ishlaen Guard weather the storm of glaive-swings with surprising durability, only having lost a pair of their number to the onslaught of the Blood Sisters. The Helsabres rattle as they pierce scaly armor and flesh alike, leaving two of the Blood Sisters mangled and broken in the aftermath. Goaded by the scent of fresh blood on the water, the Fangmora Eels strike with brutally rapid force, and proceed to chew up the three remaining Blood Sisters with their fanged maws alone.

One unit of Blood Sisters is silenced forever in the first skirmish.

Score: 0 to 0

Deepkin Turn 2:

The Tidecaster attempts to summon a Vorpal Maelstrom upon the Melusai that have appeared from the dim waves of the Aethersea, but fails in the attempt. The Knight Incantor unleashes an arcane bolt and strikes on the Witch Aelves dead with a magical blast. Still out of range of any juicy targets, both Reaver Squads keep their eyes peeled for choicer targets.

The Namarti Thralls once again advance behind the Morrsar Guard and advance upon the objective. The Soul Render General claims the Southeast objective as his own, and will remain there for the course of the game.

At once alarmed by the Melusai in their backlines and elated by their sudden victory over the Blood Sisters, the Ishlaen Guard and the Allopex Squadron race back 14" and 12" respectively (that is their normal move distance) and prepare themselves for a swift and devastating charge into the archers.

Eager to reap their share of the glory, the Morrsar guard confidently glide just out combat range of the Blood Sisters hunkered behind the Azyrite wall (like that will save them from the flying eels!).

The eerie call of the Morrsar Musician's conch shell spurs her Akhelian brethren into a lightning charge. The Blood Sisters shriek out in blind terror as the Fangmora Eels burst over the Azyrite ruins, suddenly impaled upon the Volt-Spears of the Akhelians fluid charge. What little remains of the Blood Sisters is torn to shreds by the voracious maws of the rampant fangmora eels.

Another unit of Blood Sisters bites the dust.

The Ishlaen Guard and the Allopexes succeed in closing the distance with the 10 Blood Seekers. In the frantic paced melee, four Melusai are slain in the exchange, but the ceremonial daggers of the Blood Seekers take their own toll, as a wound is taken on one of the Allopexes, and another Ishlaen dragged from his mount and viciously stabbed to death. However, of the six remaining Blood Seekers, four of them lose their courage and flee from the battle! Only two Blood Seekers remain from the big unit.

Undeterred by the death of their glaive wielding sisters, the Blood Seekers on the right flank find an opportunity to pounce upon the Morrsar Guard and pile in for a sneaky attack! One of the Akhelians is slain in the ambush.

Daughters of Khaine turn 2:

Morathi starts the show with a successful Arz. Black Horror summoned upon the Reaver Squad in the Observatory. Of the ten Namarti hunters, six of them are slain, pretty much maiming the unit before it could strike. She also transforms into her monstrous true self. The Medusae fires another arcane bolt into the tidecaster and obliterates her in an explosion of shadow magic.  Witchbrew is given, but I think Mind Razor failed this time. The Hag Queen attempts another prayer is found unworthy again, and is dropped to three wounds (jilted :P!).

Morathi flies over to the now abandoned Northwest objective and claims the place of power as her own. The Witch Aelves advance along with the Medusae and claim the center objective.

In the midst of combat, the Blood Seekers manage to drag down another Akhelian through sheer spite (mortal wounds inflicted on the Akhelians whenever they roll hit rolls of one :P). In turn, three of their number are fed to the eels, and only two remain standing.

Deepkin Turn 3: The Knight Incantor summons an arcane bolt and annihilates another Witch Aelf. The Reavers fortified in the Occularum open up with their rapid-fire shot, but due to Khailebron's mist-shroud, they only manage to cut down two or three witch aelves.

There can be no more waiting, the High Tide has come and demands a sacrifice a dogs to be pulled down into the depths! The Sequitors and the Knight Incantor lead the charge into the horde of Witch Aelves. Encouraged by the High Tide, the Soulrender and Lotann himself join the charge into the Daughters of Khaine. The Ishlaen Guard and the Allopexes race across the left flank into the center of the battlefield, but become too exhausted to join the carnage and shred the enemy (really critical fail of a charge for both units here :P).

Making use of the High Tide, the Idoneth Heroes deign to be the first to swing their blades in this combat. The Soulrender does well for himself, and cuts down about four Witch Aelves on his own. Lotann pretty much is clubbing the open air, and only manages to slay about one or two of the Aelves despite all of his attacks.

The Witch Aelves strike back in a sudden flurry of blows. Two Sequitors are slain in the melee, while the Soulrender is dropped to three wounds, and Lotann himself dropped to two. The Sequitors strike back with such haste, that they forget to use their Aetheric Channeling and promptly miss every single one of their attacks :P. Oh well, I guess the Idoneth only use them for the extra wounds lol. The Knight Incantor does a bit better and puts another 3-4 aelves into the grave.

The Morrsar Guard finish off their Blood Seeker opponents and await the coming of the ebb tide (which is high tide as well for Fuethan) to make their next move.

Daughters of Khaine Turn 4:

Blood Sacrament finally goes off from the Hag Queen, Mindrazor goes off from the Medusae, and then the Snake-Aelf uses a command point and teleport the Hag Queen to the Northwest objective where Morathi is. The Hag Queen now claims the objective and allows Morathi to finally unleash herself upon the foe.

The unit of Blood Seekers in the back take potshots at the Knight Incantor whittle her down to three wounds. Seeking to stop Fuethan's momentum on the left flank, Morathi fixates the Ishlaen Lochian Prince with her deathly stare and turns the Akhelian and his mount into a monument of stone, leaving only the musician on one wound (took some fire from the Blood Seekers).

The Knight Incantor pops a soul flask, and puts a couple wounds on the enemy as well as herself. The Witch Aelves plunge themselves into a murderous frenzy in the center, and proceed to cut down the Soulrender and Lotann, and whittle down the Sequitors to just the Sequitor Prime. The Bloodwrack Medusae throws some blows in on the Knight Incantor, but somehow, despite the pounding of the Witch Aelf knives and their general, stands firm with one wound remaining.

The last unit of 5 Blood Seekers charge in, but even piling, cannot really reach the front of the combat. They surround their Bloodwrack General and prepare to fight to the death.

Morathi charges in and slays the remaining Ishlaen, and impales the slightly wounded Allopex upon her great spear, Heartrender, slaying it. The remaining Allopex strike at Morathi before she can get her blows in and take off the maximum three wounds that she can receive in one turn. (Awesome :)!). Two Naramti Reavers still hunkered in the Observatory are pulled into the combat.

Deepkin Turn 4:

Ebb Tid = High Tide for the Fuethan, and none are safe now that there is blood in the water.

Being allowed to run and charge or run and shoot, the remaining Idoneth units still outside of the thickest fighting surge forward to enter the fray. The Soulrender General uses a command point for "On the Double" on the Namarti Thrall unit within 12" of him. The Thralls rush forward and succeed in their charge to enter the fray. The Thralls whittle the Witch Aelves to about eight or so, but are in turn shredded to about just four Thralls :P.

The Sequitor Prime, the last remaining warrior in her unit, remembers her Aetheric Channeling and manages to whittle down the Witch Aelves further still. The Knight Incantor manages to land some blows on the Bloodwrack Medusa and take her down to four wounds.

The combined efforts of the remaining Allopex and the two Namarti Thralls manage to cleave another three wounds off of Morathi, leaving her six wounds left. Morathi proceeds to rend apart the last remaining reavers, and whittles down the Allopex to one wound due to many flubbed rolls toward the end and some lucky saves!

The Morrsar Guard pull off the impossible thanks to the Flood Tide and their natural 14" move. They ride the waves toward where the fighting is thickest with an 17" move and run, and proceed to nail their charge with a mighty roll of 10. They slam the Blood Sisters and the Bloodwrack Medusae from the rear, and with the impetuousness of their charge, proceeded to slay everyone in range, leaving my Knight Incantor with her one wound to claim the objective.

Daughters of Khaine Turn 5:

Nothing much remains at this point. The Deepkin have a Knight Incantor, four Morrsar Guard, and unit of 10 Reavers left to them. The Daughters of Khaine on the other hand, have a Morathi with half of her wounds, a Hag Queen, and four Witch Aelves left on the field.

Morathi turns a pair of Reavers to stone with her powerful gaze and swiftly charges in and crushes the Knight Incantor under her great tail and rends apart one of the Morrsar Guard. But the Akhelians have not lost their bite, and manage to tear another three wounds off of Morathi, leaving her with three left!

With the Reavers having nothing to shoot at, they abandon their fortification to advance toward the Hag Queen. A vain effort, but might as well.

The Idoneth Deepkin didn't have much of a fifth turn, as I retreated with my Akhelians toward the Hag Queen thinking there would be a turn six. It was at the end of my final turn that my opponent and I both realized that the mission ends on turn 5.

So we called it a good game.

The Daughters of Khaine pulled out a nail-biting victory.

DoK : Deepkin
15  : 12
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on August 19, 2018, 05:07:48 PM
Sounds like you had a good game :)
Just a heads up, Ironjaws move alot faster than you think :(
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on August 19, 2018, 06:22:31 PM
Sounds like you had a good game :)
Just a heads up, Ironjaws move alot faster than you think :(

Oh yeah, I've heard of the Ironjawz far reaching capabilities ;D, there are a couple of ironjawz players at my local games workshop. Wouldn't mind seeing who is the fastest army  ;D!

It was definitely a great game, went back and forth a couple times and was a lot of fun. The Akhelians proved themselves the real heroes in that battle. Between the unit of Ishlaen Guard and Akhelian Guard, they almost accounted for every Melusai model on the battlefield! I think the Fuethan Enclave helped me turn the tide in some pivotal moments. Being able to run and charge or run and shoot definitely swung the game around in my favor toward the end of the match.

I think I agree with you about the Namarti Reavers, when they did come through, they provided some support, but in the overall scheme of things it was nothing spectacular. Granted, Khailebrons debuff to shooting really hampered them quite badly. Even when shooting with Rapid Fire shot with a full squad into a group of 30 Witches, I only accounted for like 3 or 4 of them by the end of the game.

The Namarti Thralls could have done some serious damage when they joined the combat, I only needed to take more of them. A unit of ten, as you mentioned, is not nearly enough. They charged in, dealt some damage, and then promptly died to the Witch Aelves' knives and battleshock.

The Allopexes did better once I placed them into a single unit. The Retarius Net Launchers only managed to hit and wound once. I think they did more than enough in this game, however, managing to drop Morathi down to half of her wounds before she put both of them in the grave. There was one turn where the last Allopex was on one wound, and Morathi pretty much flubbed all of her shooting attacks and kept her locked in combat. So there is that :).

I actually really like the Fuethan Enclave. Having two rounds of Flood Tide and a special buff around that battle round is crazy good. And being able to reroll some of the missed wound rolls thanks to their other rule turned all of my Undersea mounts to erratic damage, to solid damage dealers.

I think I might end up dropping the Namarti Reavers, adding in more Thralls and either another unit of Ishlaen Guard or an Akhelian King. Also might switch out to the other soulrender for another Tidecaster... Will have to see.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on August 19, 2018, 11:07:23 PM
Oh yeah, I've heard of the Ironjawz far reaching capabilities ;D, there are a couple of ironjawz players at my local games workshop. Wouldn't mind seeing who is the fastest army  ;D!

D6 moving in the hero phase, normal move + charge, plus extra attacks for waaaggh or something, = 20 dead thralls in one turn from a single unit. That was just the guys on foot, not even their mounted troops....

Lesson = deploy waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaay back and let them go first lol.

I was just running a throw everything on the table list vs a proberly configure list, so it was going to be an up hill battle. If I had deployed properly I would have had a much better time of it.

I did get to use the shield Eels though, they did more damange than I thought andf the ignore rend was just amazing.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Looshkin on August 29, 2018, 04:36:00 AM
That sounded like a really good, although really tough, game Myen'Tal. In the microscopic experience I've had with Idoneth, it really shocked both me and my opponent just how far the Idoneth can reach out and touch you. The threat bubble is immense.

I wouldn't be too quick to write off the Namaarti Reavers though. Again, in my limited experience, they can really pump out some hurt as long as they aren't totally isolated. If they are used as a support unit to a more threatening unit, such as a big blob of Thralls or any of the Akhelian units, they can really do some work. The volley shooting can thin enemy units nicely and then what they can do in hth combat shouldn't be sniffed at either. If you can hold them back until turn 3 (High tide), they can absolutely wreck face. It's all about keeping them out of harm's way for the first couple of turns...or at least, if you are being aggressive with them, providing a far more threatening unit right next to them that the enemy wants to focus on.

Great updates as always bud, keep them coming!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on August 30, 2018, 09:05:31 PM
Thanks, Loosh, 2nd game of AoS, and it was tough, but it was really fun and rewarding to play against my opponent even if I did lose in the end. As for the Idoneth's reach, I share the same experience that you and your opponent had, I felt toward the end of the game that my Akhelians could possibly run from one end of the board and back. Smashing into the back of those witch aelves and the medusae was simply glorious ;D.

I'll keep what you said in mind about the Namarti Reavers. I think they probably would have performed much stronger had I been facing any other temple beside Khailebron. The defensive positions I took gave them a unique bastion to hide in that was not simple to assault. But once Morathi began waving her wand around ::)...

I haven't really been painting so much recently, but I have been doing some prep work on several models that I hope to begin on in earnest this weekend. Pray to the Brush Gods that I'll have something to post soon ;) :).
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on September 1, 2018, 11:21:58 PM
Lady Raven Von Saarland

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Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on September 2, 2018, 04:56:40 PM
niiice, looks like it will fit right in as an ally for your aelves too :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on September 2, 2018, 05:48:49 PM
niiice, looks like it will fit right in as an ally for your aelves too :)

Thanks, Mage :D! I've actually decided to take a break from building my Sea Aelves for the moment. I managed to break four akhelians after my ramshackle box filled with models tipped over while I wasn't looking :P. I think I'll be waiting on building and painting my Akhelians at least until I buy a proper case for them.

In the meantime though, I officially reached 2000 Points of Stormcast through some trades and acquiring some of the new kits. I already had most of the paint for the Bloodied Dawn Stormhost already, so I grabbed what small portion was missing and have commenced the painting ;D.

Still need a Tauralon, Knight Incantor, and the Stormcast Endless Spells, but other than that the list is built, just need to paint it ;).

Here is the 2000 Point List that I am working on:

LIST 1:

Lord-Arcanum on Celestial Dracoline
- General
- Command Trait : Bonds of Noble Duty
- Artefact : Patrician's Helm
- Spell : Stormcaller
- Mount Trait : Pride Leader

Lord-Arcanum on Gryph-Charger
- Celestial Staves (Artefact) : Staff of Azyr
- Spell : Lighntning Blast
- Mount Trait : Indefatigable

UNITS
5 x Sequitors
-Tempest Blades and Soulshields
- 2 x Stormsmite Greatmaces
5 x Sequitors
-Stormsmite Mauls and Soulshields
- 2 x Stormsmite Greatmaces
5 x Sequitors
-Stormsmite Mauls and Soulshields
- 2 x Stormsmite Greatmaces
5 x Evocators
- 5 x Grandstaves
5 x Evocators
3 x Evocators on Dracolines

WAR MACHINES

Celestar Ballista
Celestar Ballista

BATTALIONS

Cleansing Phalanx

ENDLESS SPELLS

Dais Arcanum
Celestian Vortex
Soulsnare Shackles
Prismatic Palisade
TOTAL: 1990/2000

LIST 2:

Lord-Arcanum on Tauralon
- General
- Command Trait : Bonds of Noble Duty
- Artefact : Patrician's Helm
- Spell : Stormcaller
- Mount Trait : Steel Pinions

Knight-Incantor
- Scrolls of Power (Artefact) : Scroll of Unravelling
- Spell : Lighntning Blast

UNITS

5 x Sequitors
-Tempest Blades and Soulshields
- 2 x Stormsmite Greatmaces
5 x Sequitors
-Stormsmite Mauls and Soulshields
- 2 x Stormsmite Greatmaces
5 x Sequitors
-Stormsmite Mauls and Soulshields
- 2 x Stormsmite Greatmaces
5 x Evocators
- 5 x Grandstaves
5 x Evocators
3 x Evocators on Dracolines

WAR MACHINES
Celestar Ballista
Celestar Ballista

BATTALIONS
Cleansing Phalanx

ENDLESS SPELLS

Dais Arcanum

Everblaze Comet
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on September 3, 2018, 05:50:46 PM
oh man that sucks, hopefully they are not too damaged.

A Knight-Incantor comes with the AOS getting started magazine, so its really cheap $$ wise, its made its way into my sea elves army, being able to just pown a single spell is brilliant and the suicide flasks are kind of fun :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Ynneadwraith on September 17, 2018, 05:50:39 AM
Just catching up! Now that's a pretty colour scheme dude :) can't wait to see them all up and painted!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on September 17, 2018, 11:42:13 AM
Just catching up! Now that's a pretty colour scheme dude :) can't wait to see them all up and painted!

Thanks, Ynnead, means a lot from the Mastermind Conversion artist himself ;D!

I've actually been doing some hobby work over the weekend. Lots of priming and transferring / pre-thinning paints into Dropper Bottles.

I just started on some more of the Deepkin models (Not going to tell which one ;)!), that I hope to share on the forum really soon. So stay tuned!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on September 17, 2018, 05:48:49 PM
I just started on some more of the Deepkin models (Not going to tell which one ;)!), that I hope to share on the forum really soon. So stay tuned!

Such a tease  ;D
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on September 23, 2018, 09:16:55 AM
Such a tease  ;D

Ta-Daa ;D!!!

Akhelian Allopex!

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(https://i.imgur.com/pb6Tml5.jpg)

Current Just-about-finished Pile:
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Current WIP Pile:
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Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Dread on September 23, 2018, 02:18:20 PM
Amazeballs! Love the striping on the shark. Colorpaloza! Excellent choices as always.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on September 23, 2018, 04:33:45 PM
Amazeballs! Love the striping on the shark. Colorpaloza! Excellent choices as always.

Thanks for the compliment, Dread :D, means a lot as the Allopex turned out to be several degrees more effort than I was anticipating. So many small details on it, then you also have to work out the shark's skintone and how best to apply the stripe pattern. I think the Akhelian Guard made this model more of a challenge when fully assembled. Some difficult to reach spots, especially when you're trying to get the chest plate on the armor.

That said, I'm extremely proud about how it all turned out!

I'm not sure if I'll choose a different color scheme for the second Allopex to keep them unique, but I'll think on it! Do you think I should try to keep the same color scheme across the two of them for more consistency, or try the more varied approach?
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on September 23, 2018, 06:15:32 PM
Have to agree with Dread, those stripes on the shark are a super nice touch.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on September 23, 2018, 06:54:51 PM
Have to agree with Dread, those stripes on the shark are a super nice touch.

Thanks, Mage, the stripes proved a bit more difficult than I initially thought, but once I got the most of the colors for the skin ironed out, everything became a lot simpler :).

Speaking of the Allopex's stripes, I went back and trimmed down some of the ticker ones.

Tell me what you think!

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Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on September 25, 2018, 05:37:41 PM
looks good mate and I like what you did with the flight stand, it doesn't jump out like it would clear.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on September 25, 2018, 06:23:55 PM
looks good mate and I like what you did with the flight stand, it doesn't jump out like it would clear.

Thanks, Mage, I actually just decided not to cover the flying stand when I primed it, but I think you're right, it does blend in a lot better.

I used your tutorial to improve on my water basing, using Teclis Blue, Temple Guard blue, and the nihilakh oxide. Didn't manage to pull off the larger waves, I think the first layer of gel was spread too thin. But I think it does look a lot more vibrant with the color transition from deep to coastal waters  :).

I think I'm where I want to be with the ocean bases. I guess I need to start formulating how I'll base the stormcast :D.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Looshkin on October 3, 2018, 04:38:03 AM
I love the shark! I think the shark skin came out really, really well. The other things that stands out for me are the bronze coloured elements. They're really well executed.

Overall, the Allopex is a terrific addition to the force. Nice job.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on October 3, 2018, 12:52:15 PM
Thanks for the compliments, Loosh ;D! Long time, so see by the way, glad to see you around the forums again. Yeah, I'm really stoked about how the shark skin came out, when I was in the first stages I thought it was going to turn into a disaster :P, but I pressed on with it and after several layers, I think it finally started to evolve and come together.

I'm glad you liked the bronze elements. I knew I needed another color on the harpoon launcher harness to break up all of that silver. So I settled on a bronze / copper to add some variety to a miniature with already a lot of silver armor plates on it. Glad someone noticed that! :D
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on October 15, 2018, 02:39:09 PM
Quick Update, guys,

I'll be posting up an image or two of what I've been up to once I get off of work tonight. I won't be posting these to show anything off, but I'm more looking for advice because I'm somewhat stumped on how to proceed with some of these models.

I still have an idea or two on what I want to do with the Akhelian Guard. But the colors I'm using for the celestial dracoline don't seem to be jiving together like I thought they would. More on that later though.

EDIT:

For these guys, I'm trying to decide what a good layer for the skin would be. I based them with mechanicus standard grey and then Teclis blue to experiment with the color scheme a little. I washed them with Drakenhof Nightshade. I might just layer up with Teclis blue again and use some brighter green highlights for the pattern on the skin, like sybarite or sotek green.
(https://i.imgur.com/dQfPhwL.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tXZiS4N.jpg)
For Astreia Solbright, I've tried highlighting her skin a couple times, until I reached the point that I felt that I had to start over. I basecoated with Daemonette Hide, which I felt was still pretty bright for a base paint. I toned down the skin with an overall wash of Druchii Violet, then I tried to layer most of the skin up to Warpfiend grey... The Warpfiend grey looked so unnaturally bright and weird even though it's supposed to layer over Daemonette Hide. Maybe I'm highlighting it wrong and just need to focus on edge highlighting?
(https://i.imgur.com/pb0xYUJ.jpg)
I've kept these guys based in the Mechanicus for now until I figure out how I want to paint this unit. I have a mind to try and mirror the Allopex Shark I painted before. But I want to keep the whole unit consistent I Think.
(https://i.imgur.com/sm0xcc2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/31onZFz.jpg)

Also, managed to snag this ghostie off of ebay!!! ;D
(https://i.imgur.com/odSh6Hy.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Ynneadwraith on October 19, 2018, 08:16:52 AM
Ooh I like the mottled look you've got on the angry eels ;) clever way of doing it too, varying the basecoat and then washing over.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on October 19, 2018, 09:06:36 PM
Ooh I like the mottled look you've got on the angry eels ;) clever way of doing it too, varying the basecoat and then washing over.

Thanks, Ynnead, though the result wasn't entirely planned for ;D! I'm going to try to keep the mottled look even after I apply a few more highlights to layer the skin back up. I'm going by my GW tomorrow and will probably pick up some orange, red, and purple paints so I can add some variety to all of the fins :).
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on October 21, 2018, 09:23:01 PM
WIP Akhelian Guard: Base Colors for each Akehlian Guard Pair: Naggaroth Night, Caliban Green, Ahriman Blue, Stegadon Scale Green, and Incubi Darkness, perhaps not necessarily in that order. The Incubi and the Stegadon Scale look pretty similar after I gave each model their respective washes. Hopefully I'll be able to brighten them back up and make each of them a bit more unique.

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Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on October 22, 2018, 04:19:34 PM
interesting colour combo with the green on the fins, its just different enough to notice with out standing out. I like it.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on October 22, 2018, 09:37:00 PM
interesting colour combo with the green on the fins, its just different enough to notice with out standing out. I like it.

Thanks, Mage, still wondering whether I should do a smaller, more extreme highlight of moot green on the fin edges. Still wondering how I'm going to build the skin of the Teclis-Eels back up. I think I might end up using some Ahriman Blue to do so.
Title: Re: Myen\'Tal\'s Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on October 27, 2018, 03:39:37 AM
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Post Merge: October 27, 2018, 06:14:08 PM
In the future, please use the modify button. Double posting is against the forum rules, and for that reason, the system merged your posts.

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Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Dread on October 29, 2018, 01:41:41 AM
Love the colors, almost elecric. If you'd like I think using a bright orange faded down on the red might just add that extra electric look. Other then wow!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on October 29, 2018, 01:32:38 PM
Love the colors, almost elecric. If you'd like I think using a bright orange faded down on the red might just add that extra electric look. Other then wow!

Thanks, Dread ;D! I actually had a similar idea to do something like that, except I was going to make the entire pattern orange. But I'm liking your idea, didn't really think about that, so I think I'll try it out this weekend. Do have some orange colors, but I think the ratio of thinner I used to pre-thin them has left them ruined I'm afraid. Might not be worth it to pre-thin those lighter colors, they're already thin enough I think.

EDIT: Sorry! Called you DoW by accident Dread. For some reason I keep getting both of your names swapped around in my head :P.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on November 4, 2018, 05:24:19 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/69xPISA.jpg)
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Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Dread on November 5, 2018, 12:26:16 AM
First off, being called DoW is a compliment so your ok.

I have to say how well the colors really make these models so cool, electric like i stated. To see them on a table would be a real honor. The blues on the rider and pinks compliment the model so well.

Keep it up. I hope to get some pics up soon. 3 weeks of being sick has really sucked.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: dog_of_war on November 5, 2018, 08:44:08 AM
The lighter tone is much more complimentary to the blue and makes the scheme much more natural. It would be neat having slight variations in the strips of colours ranging from purples to reds to oranges on different models in the unit. Just as in nature there are always genetic variety, I think it looks great on the tabletop.

I think the honour is mine Dread  ;)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on November 5, 2018, 11:15:46 AM
Thanks for the compliments and feedback, guys, I'm glad that you like them! I should note that I've changed the original red color on the first eel to orange as well.

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It would be neat having slight variations in the strips of colours ranging from purples to reds to oranges on different models in the unit. Just as in nature there are always genetic variety, I think it looks great on the tabletop.

I've had a similar idea, Dread, but my thought was to do one particular variation in pairs. Such as the blue skin, orange pattern, and green fins that I've applied to these first two Akhelian Riders. Two might be a strange number, but I don't think I have enough paints to do a truly unique scheme for each Eel ;). So expect the next pair of riders to change it up a bit!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Ynneadwraith on November 7, 2018, 01:06:03 PM
Very vibrant! I also like the bluish tinged steel of the rider. What's the recipe for that?
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on November 7, 2018, 01:28:03 PM
Very vibrant! I also like the bluish tinged steel of the rider. What's the recipe for that?

Thanks, Ynnead! Gulliman Blue + Coelia Greenshade + Lahmian Medium, if I recall correctly. You can find the recipe on one of Game Workshops Ionrach Robes turtorial.

Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on November 19, 2018, 12:48:39 AM
Another Akhelian joins the ranks  ;D! I tried some variations in the Morphann scheme, mainly the armor and a Gulliman Blue + Lahmian Medium + Druchii Violet for the skin. Curios as to what you guys think of it ;D!

(https://i.imgur.com/7Rjkgtl.jpg)
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Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Ynneadwraith on November 20, 2018, 08:04:10 AM
Looking great dude :) and thanks for the recipe for the green-tinged steel. I'll definitely find a use for that :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on November 20, 2018, 12:29:11 PM
Looking great dude :) and thanks for the recipe for the green-tinged steel. I'll definitely find a use for that :)

Thanks, Ynnead ;D, and no problem! Cannot wait to see what you do with that recipe :).
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on November 20, 2018, 02:50:58 PM
Looks good, and the upward position of the Eel works really well.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on November 20, 2018, 03:46:20 PM
Looks good, and the upward position of the Eel works really well.

Thanks, Mage, always value your feedback :). I actually kind of messed up, because I started working on the musician alongside this Standard Bearer. Both share the same pattern and colors, but I realized yesterday that I was painting the Morrsar Guard Musician instead of the Ishlaen one (*facepalm*). Oh well, not going to start over or anything.

I think after I finish the musician, I'm going to go back to painting my Namarti. The Namarti kind of fell off the map for me :P, so I'm going to try to get a good chunk of them painted up I think. It'll be refreshing to be able to paint entire groups again, and not have a lot of detail and filigree to pick out.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on November 25, 2018, 12:47:47 AM
Found this bad boy for a decent Black Friday discount! Don't mind that original price tag written on the box! I asked for some airbrush supplies for christmas, so I think I'm going to hold off on painting this guy until I see what I've got.

Stay tuned!

(https://i.imgur.com/5uUKIMU.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Ynneadwraith on November 25, 2018, 06:40:31 AM
Nice find! Awesome model. Can't wait to see what you do with it :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Calamity on November 25, 2018, 06:55:24 AM
Sweet!  That is an absolutely awesome model, and I can't wait to see what you do with it!  :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on November 25, 2018, 07:41:00 PM
Thanks guys, still in researching stage on how best to paint this guy. Will be a while yet before I decide how to tackle him :).

(https://i.imgur.com/zmotFdO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qf49bGA.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on November 26, 2018, 07:28:20 PM
Looks good, but yeah I'm not sure how I would paint it either. Without an airbrush I'm guessing wet blending might be the way to go for such a large area.

Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on November 26, 2018, 09:42:00 PM
Looks good, but yeah I'm not sure how I would paint it either. Without an airbrush I'm guessing wet blending might be the way to go for such a large area.

I think airbrushing would be the way to do this model and Volturnos, I think. Hopefully I'll get that airbrush this holiday season ;D.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Killersquid on November 27, 2018, 10:29:40 AM
That is certainly one of my favourite models. I was amazed at how big it is, when I first saw one.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on November 27, 2018, 01:26:41 PM
That is certainly one of my favourite models. I was amazed at how big it is, when I first saw one.

Yeah, I think pictures on the internet really don't do it justice. I knew it was supposed to be a centerpiece model, but I really didn't know how big the model was until I began assembling it. And actually building the Eidolon was fairly simple, not difficult at all. One of the most enjoyable experiences I had putting a model together!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Dread on November 27, 2018, 10:38:21 PM
So jealous. I've always had elves, fantasy and 40k. Unfortunately prices got to high so I have to look at your lovelies and drool. Keep them coming. Hmm think I'll finish building my witches, shake the primer and get to painting. ..soon...
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on November 27, 2018, 10:51:48 PM
Thanks, Dread. Living in America, I still think the prices are difficult to swallow on occasion. I cannot imagine what you guys in Australia must feel like with the prices there. You think that Games Workshop would work that out by now.

Witches? Are you playing Daughters of Khaine ;D?
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Dread on November 28, 2018, 09:49:26 PM
Well I used to have a huge dark elf army. Then the new witches came out and a guy offered me the right amount of money for the army. I sold most of it. I have left 20 witches, 3 hags, cauldron, shrine, sorceress and one on a dragon, a few others. I want the DoK book and the new models, soon I keep saying but soon hasn't come yet. I hope to assemble the last seven witches this weekend. If I can find some hobby time.

I'm thinking about using the sisters of slaughter bits on some dark Eldar wyches to make SoS. What do you think, do-able? Of coarse I'll have to reshape a few torsos to be female but...
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on November 28, 2018, 10:23:17 PM
I'm not much of a converter, but I think kitbashing Wych and SoS bitz sounds possible. I think if you could make it work, you'd get something far better than the current Wych models for the Dark Eldar. I wonder how the more slender arms for the sisters of slaughter would fit as a replacement for the muscular arms of the Wyches?

Sounds like a fun project ;D.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Dread on November 28, 2018, 10:36:00 PM
I'll have to file their back packs off too. I'll play around and see if I like it or not. I have about 50 or 60 wyches so I can get all female torsos. They're cheaper then a box of witches, I already have them so...

I calculated ppoints I have on war scroll, I'm at 1200 or so with what I can use from the book.

Edit: you are way correct on the arms, way to small. Grumble grumble..
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on December 4, 2018, 11:16:34 PM
Had to make a choice, buy two of the Imperial fist battlefields or finish the two AoS armies that I have. I've decided on the latter. As a result, I've ordered the last kits I need and supplies to finish both armies.

I've ordered another group of The alps, bringing me 35 of them. Aventis Firestrike on Tauralon, another Astreia Solbright, and might grab another Akhelian King so I can try out some airbrushing on his mount. The reaper brush on primer has dried somewhat weird on Volturnos, and he looks kind of icky lol.

Reinforcements are on the way, so how about some army photos to celebrate!

25 Namarti Thralls
19 Namarti Reavers
6 Ishlaen Guard
6 Morssar Guard
2 Allopexes
1 Soulrender
2 Akhelian Kings
1 Eidolon

Order of the Blooded Dawn

1 Lord Arcanum on Gryph charger
3 celestial dracolines
2 celestar ballistas
15 Sequitors
6 Castigators
10 Evocators
1 knight incantor
Stormcast Endless Spells

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Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on December 10, 2018, 12:05:51 AM
Finally assembled some Shas'la that have been in the box for months. I think the Tau Empire might be my 40k faction. Here's a pic!

(https://i.imgur.com/TDabq4Z.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on December 10, 2018, 02:50:33 PM
Tau have some really nice options, just watch out for minus to hit stacking as it really hurts as you'll be hitting on 5s or 6s. Huge volume of shots though. Always wanted to tag team my Eldar with Tau :)

There are 3rd parties that make some really nice minis for them too, check out wargameexclusive.co m
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Killersquid on December 10, 2018, 03:35:48 PM
Tau have some fantastic models, and almost the entire line is plastic, which is phenominal. You've got a lot of models to paint there bud!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on December 10, 2018, 04:17:37 PM
Tau have some really nice options, just watch out for minus to hit stacking as it really hurts as you'll be hitting on 5s or 6s. Huge volume of shots though. Always wanted to tag team my Eldar with Tau :)

There are 3rd parties that make some really nice minis for them too, check out wargameexclusive.co m

Thanks for the website, Mage, there are some really cool models on that website. Might have to grab some of the sculpts for some unique cadre fireblades :D.

Tau have some fantastic models, and almost the entire line is plastic, which is phenominal. You've got a lot of models to paint there bud!


Thanks, Squid, yeah I've always been a fan of most of the Tau range. I think they have enough Suits now, I hope GW starts looking at bringing back good xenos mercenary options for the Empire.

Yeah, I have a lot to paint  :P. Really waiting on that airbrush and still need to gather some more brushes before the work continues. I've got some Thralls down the pipeline, hopefully I'll be able to finish them soon. Funnily enough, I find the Thralls trickier to paint than the Akhelians. Their robes and the length of their weapons can be frustrating sometimes, haha :).
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on December 18, 2018, 12:19:44 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/FPIzkvE.jpg) (https://imgur.com/FPIzkvE)
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Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Dread on December 18, 2018, 11:41:46 PM
I gotta say how much I love thee skin tone. What colors did you use? This color scheme is still one of my favorites. Keep them coming.  8)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on December 19, 2018, 12:53:43 AM
Thanks Dread :).

Skintone: Rakarth Flesh + thin layer of Pallid Wych Flesh, and decided for a final layer/highlight of Deepkin Flesh

Skintone Shade: Druchii Violet + Lahmian Medium + Gulliman Blue

Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Dread on December 19, 2018, 07:43:19 PM
Thanks so much. After Christmas I will pick those up for use on my DoK.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on December 20, 2018, 03:17:08 PM
Awesome, cannot wait to see your DoK on the forum :D. Are you picking up any new kits for Christmas?
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Dread on December 20, 2018, 10:16:53 PM
I wish, I got the book today. It'll be slow moving but I will aquire them maybe 1 kit a month. I'm gonna start with doom fire warlocks to add to what I have.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Ynneadwraith on December 21, 2018, 04:50:43 AM
Love that skintone :) I need to experiment a little more with multiple different coloured washes (or did you mix them?).

Looking forward to the Tau too :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on December 21, 2018, 01:45:02 PM
Love that skintone :) I need to experiment a little more with multiple different coloured washes (or did you mix them?).

Looking forward to the Tau too :)

Thanks, Ynnead :). Sorry I should have clarified about that wash for the skintone. I mix the Druchii Violet, Lahmian, and Gulliman blue together before shading the skin. I have also yet to try applying different colored washes in multiple shades ;D.

I wish, I got the book today. It'll be slow moving but I will aquire them maybe 1 kit a month. I'm gonna start with doom fire warlocks to add to what I have.

Doomfire warlocks I hear are very solid light cavalry, especially now that you can give them crossbows too. You should share the list once you come up with one. I've studied daughters of khaine, since when I was starting I wanted to build an army out of them. I don't think I will now though, already have Idoneth and Stormcast.

And now I'll have Tau Empire to finish. Then towards the end of the year, sisters of battle should be out, and I'll be hoping on that train :).
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on December 23, 2018, 08:30:10 PM
Slowly but certainly, the Tau'n Sept prepares to venture forth into the darkness of the galaxy to participate in the Fourth Sphere Expansion. Rumors have it that some reinforcements are likely to arrive sometime during the holidays!

(http://i.imgur.com/yikvaFJ.jpg) (https://imgur.com/yikvaFJ)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Calamity on December 25, 2018, 01:48:26 PM
For the Greater Good!  ;D

I look forward to seeing how they turn out!  :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on December 25, 2018, 04:50:30 PM
For the Greater Good!  ;D

I look forward to seeing how they turn out!  :)

Tau'va!!! ;D

I'm still trying to decide on a paint scheme, but I've narrowed it down to a handful. It's either N'dras (Blue-Green, Teal, and Black), Tau'n (Cold White and Dark Grey), or Sa'cea (Blue, grey, and orange).
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on December 28, 2018, 01:05:10 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/m6EZBGn.jpg) (https://imgur.com/m6EZBGn)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on December 28, 2018, 07:25:08 AM
looking good :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: dog_of_war on December 28, 2018, 09:22:52 AM
They seem to be multiplying. Make sure you don't get water on them or feed them after midnight.  ::)

Looking good Myen'Tal! That's starting to shape up to a nice force.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on December 28, 2018, 05:10:01 PM
Thanks guys! Our family is holding a late Christmas this weekend, fingers crossed for more stuff!

I think I'm going to hold off on building the Ghostkeel until I find myself a hobby drill and some magnets. I'd really like to try magnetizing the weapons and even the arms for once.

We'll see :).

Any Basing suggestions you guys want to throw out there?
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on January 8, 2019, 09:25:41 PM
Hi guys,

Sorry I haven't updated in awhile, I'm actually planning to relocate to a new city to start working a new job. I'll actually be moving into a house for the foreseeable future, and I'm preparing to utilize a piece of that much  larger space for... you guessed it! A new hobby area!

My painting has been on hold as I am packing stuff up and organizing it for the move this coming Friday. I don't have much stuff, sharing an apartment currently with one of siblings. It shouldn't take too long to get situated I think.

But I've avowed that once the hobby area is up and running, I'll be redoubling my efforts on the Idoneth! Really want to get this army readied for war!

So what have I been up to?

1) Bought my fourth Akhelian King Box, this time I'm planning on airbrushing him alongside my Eidolon.

2) Assembling a Ghostkeel Battlesuit.

3) Preparing to referee an AoS match between two friends to introduce them into the hobby.

4) Bought into temptation and acquired a good chunk of goblins. I've actually been hit with a cool idea to utilize a color wheel to find a nice triad of colors for them. Cyan + Purple + Orange. I'm thinking each Night Goblin unit will be painted in different variations of the Triad, but will retain the three main colors to keep them cohesive. The Squigs... well they will be more riotous in their color scheme! Wish me luck!

5) Gearing up to acquire an Airbrush and compressor. I'm looking at the Iwata Medea Eclipse HP CS and their Ninja jet Pro Compressor.

6) I also now have the ambition to start moving away from Citadel GW paint range. Now that they're going up in price again, coupled with the fact that they offer less paint, worse bottles that they come in compared to the competition, it just doesn't make sense to remain with it. I'm actually looking at the Vallejo Game and Game Air Range, perhaps coupled with some of their Mecha range paints. Anyone have any advice on how to best utilize these Vallejo paints?

7) Anyone have any ideas on how to create a gaming table for either 40000 or AoS? My friends and I might be interested in collaborating with each other to build one up. Especially with the new Urban Conquest book coming out soon!
 
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: dog_of_war on January 8, 2019, 10:43:33 PM
Looks like you certainly have your plate full in the next little while. I dabbled in the world of air brushing, but mine has been sitting idle for half a year now. Good on you for doing some research and investing in some quality equipment. My problem is I always nickel and dime every project.

I built a games table a few years back. Basically 4x4 post legs attached with carriage bolts to a screwed square frame of 2x6s and reinforced in the middle with 2x4s on hangers. Even built it so the ply wood top could be removed and replaced in case I wanted to have different look.

There are a ton of designs on the web, but I don`t think you need to overthink it if your just looking for a nice flat surface to play on.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on January 8, 2019, 11:41:46 PM
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Looks like you certainly have your plate full in the next little while. I dabbled in the world of air brushing, but mine has been sitting idle for half a year now. Good on you for doing some research and investing in some quality equipment. My problem is I always nickel and dime every project.

Thanks, Dread, I've been watching so many airbrush beginner guides that it's not even funny! The Iwata Eclipse isn't the fanciest brush on the market, but it's super solid from what I hear. I'm not sure about the ninja jet compressor, but it's got good reviews. I'm willing to try it out though.

Yeah, I think I've taken on a lot recently. So I am on a haitus until I finish at least one army, haha :P. The Idoneth Army is assembled, it just needs to be painted now. So I'll be focusing on getting that completed.

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I built a games table a few years back. Basically 4x4 post legs attached with carriage bolts to a screwed square frame of 2x6s and reinforced in the middle with 2x4s on hangers. Even built it so the ply wood top could be removed and replaced in case I wanted to have different look.

There are a ton of designs on the web, but I don`t think you need to overthink it if your just looking for a nice flat surface to play on.

Thanks for the advice! I'm not certain it'll be feasible as of right now, but one of my friends has been in the construction business for a while, and he wanted to give it a shot. Might just be simpler to use our local gaming stores :).
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on January 10, 2019, 06:16:38 PM
5) Gearing up to acquire an Airbrush and compressor. I'm looking at the Iwata Medea Eclipse HP CS and their Ninja jet Pro Compressor.

Start with a cheap airbrush, its all you will need for base coating and spraying most mechs, you can do basic blending, stencils, etc. You'll spend more time cleaning the darn thing than spraying, and its best to work out the kinks on a cheap one first (You can get them for less than $20 AUD). This will also give you time to work out how to thin your paints for airbrush usage.




6) I also now have the ambition to start moving away from Citadel GW paint range. Now that they're going up in price again, coupled with the fact that they offer less paint, worse bottles that they come in compared to the competition, it just doesn't make sense to remain with it. I'm actually looking at the Vallejo Game and Game Air Range, perhaps coupled with some of their Mecha range paints. Anyone have any advice on how to best utilize these Vallejo paints?

The are used in the same way as Citadel paints. You get more paint true, but you tend to waste more with the dropper bottles unless you are batch painting with a wet palette, so it kind of evens out.

I've used them primarily for base coating as GW changed the Ultramarine blue on me, where as Vallejo keeps their range consistent.

There is a certain other forum that has a conversion chart, it is reasonably good, but missing a lot of the newer edges.

Air range is OK, but since they are the same price as a normal bottle, mixing your own goes further, so I don't really air brush with them any more. That said, I've found the white is fantastic for painting fine lines, I can't seem to get the ratio right for the GW whites. So can also work as a sort heavy shade, so it can pool into or around areas and still be used to evenly tiny flat areas, black metal is great for this.

I've stuck with GW as I'm lazy, having the colours on the box or their painting app, but the other issue is Vallejo can be a right pain in the backside in Aus, the distributors are not great here, so sometimes you have to mail order a specific colour. It took more than four months to get Ultramine blue back in stock in Aus a while back, so I have a stock pile now lol.


GW is about to do a price hike on their paints as well, it was about a 10% increase in the UK, if keep that percent across the board, then it will be almost $8 a pot here, when I can get a bottle of Vallejo at $4.50-$5, then I'll be migrating to Vallejo.

Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on January 10, 2019, 08:36:49 PM
Informative post, Mage, thank you for the advice :). I'm going to keep researching how best to take care of these brushes. You're right, preventative maintenance is half the battle :).

Funny you mentioned start with a cheaper airbrush. I happened across badger airbrushes website, which is holding some huge sale on their airbrushes. All of their available air brushes are priced at $55, no matter what tier, coupled with a $10 shipping fee.

I just bought two of them!

http://www.amazon.com/Badger-Air-Brush-Co-105-2XR-Airbrush/dp/B00471RFQA/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1547170297&sr=8-1-fkmr2&keywords=xtreme+arrow+airbrush (http://www.amazon.com/Badger-Air-Brush-Co-105-2XR-Airbrush/dp/B00471RFQA/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1547170297&sr=8-1-fkmr2&keywords=xtreme+arrow+airbrush)

Thayer & Chandler Vega 1500 Airbrush / Mixing Pipette - Powerhobby.com (https://www.powerhobby.com/thayer-chandler-vega-1500-airbrush-mixing-pipette.html)

Might get a cheaper one just to practice with first though.

Here is the sale!

http://www.badgerairbrush.com/Special_Offers_Domestic.asp (http://www.badgerairbrush.com/Special_Offers_Domestic.asp)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on January 14, 2019, 09:07:28 PM
Another Akhelian and a half done. This might be my least favorite finished Akhelian so far. I'm not overly fond of the pattern, and the blue highlights on the black armor isn't as clean as I'm used to. I think he still looks good, but I'll be rethinking the pattern on Akhelian #5.

(https://i.imgur.com/MC0kiTA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mZbpYkZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/X8Urgs2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/W6DQr9l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fMA9zfW.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Looshkin on January 15, 2019, 07:28:48 AM
Another Akhelian and a half done. This might be my least favorite finished Akhelian so far. I'm not overly fond of the pattern, and the blue highlights on the black armor isn't as clean as I'm used to. I think he still looks good, but I'll be rethinking the pattern on Akhelian #5.


I think he's fine, technically. However, I think that the pattern on the eel makes the model look a bit too busy; especially when combined with the bold contrast of the armour highlights and the eel's moth and fin tips. He not bad, but I think that your previous models have been better balanced, which elevates them above this guy.

I'm actually really keen to see the next guy with no patterns on the skin...I just think it could work really well. The skin as it stands looks excellent.

Looking forward to seeing how you progress.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on January 15, 2019, 10:07:19 AM
Yeah I think I might go back and redo the skin on the finished one. Which side of Akhelian #6 is the one you like the most? One flank is rakarth flesh and the other is Deepkin flesh layered on rakarth.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Looshkin on January 15, 2019, 11:29:28 AM
Probably prefer the top one. The bottom looks a little more like one of Missy Elliotís velour tracksuits...
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on January 21, 2019, 07:08:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/I6GsVA2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/QSxLpU5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/WtXUrcC.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: dog_of_war on January 22, 2019, 08:20:28 AM
I'm in squig heaven! You've totally inspired me to make some kustom tankbustas now that I see I can finally get some plastic squigs off of eBay to convert.

Those goblins are looking mint. Can't wait to see you throw some paint on those.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on January 22, 2019, 04:04:41 PM
I'm in squig heaven! You've totally inspired me to make some kustom tankbustas now that I see I can finally get some plastic squigs off of eBay to convert.

Those goblins are looking mint. Can't wait to see you throw some paint on those.

Oh yeah, the new Squig Kits are absolutely glorious to behold once assembled! I really like the basic squig herd a lot, but man o' man, the Squig Hoppers are just bursting with personality and detail. There's a good amount of faces that are swappable with each body component. The legs are not so swappable though, each of them goes with a specific midsection. But them and the goblin riders have a solid amount of customization to them.

Also, if you're looking to convert some of the Squig mounts in the Squig Hopperz box, the only piece that attaches the goblin rider to the mount is a fold of skin that plugs in just behind the head. If you shaved off the hand and the skin fold plastic, it could easily look like no one was riding it at all! :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: magenb on January 28, 2019, 06:42:58 PM
GW sculpters are having a field day with the new line, they all look amazing.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on January 29, 2019, 07:56:15 PM
GW sculpters are having a field day with the new line, they all look amazing.

Yeah, I love how crazy these new models are! Actually, with the new list I've devised, I'll be combining my Squigalanche list and my Moonclan list into one Army! I'm only a couple of kits away from completion! Just have to finish building what I have right now.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles
Post by: Myen'Tal on January 30, 2019, 09:42:51 PM
A couple of Updates of what I've been working on!

So, that Akhelian with the strange, busy Black Pattern. A little re-working and viola! I'm loving this Akhelian so much more now!

(https://i.imgur.com/ZZBBbd7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Cnaswfz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LY3KNdd.jpg)

So, about that Akhelian with the strange Half-and-Half purple skin? I tried to go back and replicate the better half of it, but I guess I could not find the correct consistency again. IT looked like a mess. So I decided that since I had so much success repainting the Eel with the Black Pattern, that I'd try to replicate it on this one and make them a pair!

Work In Progress:
(https://i.imgur.com/jiY6LKN.jpg)

Also, I've sworn fealty to the Dark Gods and the Tribes of Chaos ;D! Looking to add a Darkoath War Queen and Chieftain to my ranks soon!
(https://i.imgur.com/91lDFNv.jpg)

And more progress on the Gobbos! Still have a few kits to unbox and assemble!
(https://i.imgur.com/ed69DvX.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Akhelians, Goblins, Barbarians!)
Post by: magenb on January 31, 2019, 03:10:05 PM
Looks like an electric eel now :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Akhelians, Goblins, Barbarians!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on January 31, 2019, 04:54:53 PM
Looks like an electric eel now :)


Indeed, he does! I actually discovered, that painting on the pattern instead of stippling / dabbling it works much better in the end result. Sometimes you end up brushing more paint onto the model than you want, but you can easily clean up with the original color!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Akhelians, Goblins, Barbarians!)
Post by: Calamity on January 31, 2019, 08:37:28 PM
Everything looks amazing MyeníTal!  The gobbos, the squigs, the eels, the barbarians...fantas tic work!  :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Akhelians, Goblins, Barbarians!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on February 1, 2019, 10:28:49 AM
Everything looks amazing MyeníTal!  The gobbos, the squigs, the eels, the barbarians...fantas tic work!  :)

Thanks, Calamity!!! I've got another box of Grots and Squig Hoppers to assemble, and another Grot Box in reserve for now. Once that is completed, all I'll need is a unit of Sneaky Snufflers, Loonboss on Mangler Squig, and the Endless Spells and the army will be complete collection wise!

Just have to figure out how best to paint them.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Akhelians, Goblins, Barbarians!)
Post by: Ynneadwraith on February 1, 2019, 12:53:54 PM
Looking good dude :) I for one rather like the pattern on the purple akhelian :)

Companies changing paint coloura is one of the reasons I went to doing primarily non-uniform mixed colours for my scavenger dudes. The only block colours are black, off-white, gunmetal, red, bone, and a violet wash. All of those aside for the violet wash are pretty safe, and if they change any other colour then it should just blend into the already varied mixed colours :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Akhelians, Goblins, Barbarians!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on February 2, 2019, 12:28:36 AM
Thanks, Ynnead!

Good information about mixing colors. It wasn't that the paint had change, I just forgot the ratio I used to achieve the initial result :).
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Akhelians, Goblins, Barbarians!)
Post by: Calamity on February 3, 2019, 07:33:01 PM
Thanks, Calamity!!! I've got another box of Grots and Squig Hoppers to assemble, and another Grot Box in reserve for now. Once that is completed, all I'll need is a unit of Sneaky Snufflers, Loonboss on Mangler Squig, and the Endless Spells and the army will be complete collection wise!

Just have to figure out how best to paint them.

Sounds awesome!  :D

If youíre painting black robes, Iíd strongly recommend using a base coat of mechanicus grey with lots of nuln oil washes applied over it.  Itís so easy to do and looks great when finished.  :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Evocators & more Stormies)
Post by: Myen'Tal on February 9, 2019, 03:30:49 AM
Finally got back to working on my Evocator Squad. Let me know if the images aren't focused enough. I'll post up better images later this morning.

(https://i.imgur.com/7uAPHZs.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/k4BKcF1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Ef33IeU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/by5gmyS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/k6P0Lim.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AEHTGOX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ELToloj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8UHl6CL.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Evocators! Updated Pics!)
Post by: Dread on February 11, 2019, 09:51:38 PM
Such a cornucopia of color! They, the colors, play well together. Rich and solid. I want to see a full army pic sometime.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Evocators! Updated Pics!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on February 12, 2019, 09:37:47 AM
Such a cornucopia of color! They, the colors, play well together. Rich and solid. I want to see a full army pic sometime.

Thanks, Dread ;D! I appreciate the compliment. The robes were originally supposed to be a darkened shade of pink, but I decided to try something different. Didn't really like the pink in the scheme too much so didn't want to apply it across the entire army.

Those three models are the only finished stormcast that I have so far. But I'm working on several more at the moment. Good thing about Stormcast is that you don't have to paint a ton of models to make significant progress in painting their army.

Hopefully I'll have more pics soon!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Evocators! Updated Pics!)
Post by: Calamity on February 17, 2019, 10:36:22 PM
Like Dread said, absolutely amazing work MyeníTal!  I love the choice of colours you used on those, and excellent paint job to boot!  I look forward to seeing more!  :D
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Evocators! Updated Pics!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on February 17, 2019, 10:50:19 PM
Thanks Calamity, I've actually gone back and looked at the photos and decided that I could clean some of those models up a little bit! Some of the highlights are pretty chunky and be thinned down a little. Also there's some slight mistakes on the armor too. I appreciate your compliment on them!

So, update: I have hereby sold my Tau Empire and Gloomspite Gitz collections! Myen'Tal, are you mad!? I here you say, but I think that this is for the best. Lately, I've been kind of rolling on the Age of Sigmar bandwagon a little too much and want to dial it back a bit, for now! I have two AoS armies that need completing already, and plus, I have a third ambition for warhammer.

I've decided to sell my T'au Force, because I realized that I wanted to purchase this new Shadowspear Box Set that should be coming out soon. I was tempted by Genestealer Cult, but ultimately, they're not a faction for me. I don't want to be juggling too many armies right now, so I've sold off both armies and in return, will be able to start a new collection by buying two of the Shadowspear Boxes.

Not certain if I'll keep both sides of the box, but if I do, I'm only going to be focused on one for the near future. Plus, marines, chaos and Primaris alike, probably don't have as many models to paint like my Tau list would have required :P.

So, for right now, I'm just going to keep pressing on with my Stormcast and Deepkin.

Stay tuned for more!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Evocators! Updated Pics!)
Post by: Dread on February 17, 2019, 11:59:54 PM
Well bummer on the Grots but I understand. I used to have more armies myself but I saw more shineys, or bills, and I regret some of them. But such is life. So now you gotta get cranking on the ones you do have. Looking forward to them!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Evocators! Updated Pics!)
Post by: Looshkin on February 19, 2019, 02:04:02 PM
Shame to hear that you've decided to move on from the Gobbos Myen'Tal, but if you can't devote the time and energy, it's never worth it to hang onto them.

As for the Stormcast, I think they look good. As you say, a few of the highlights are too thick, but the colour scheme is striking and I think they'll look good once you finish a few more of them.

Keep it up bud!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Evocators! Updated Pics!)
Post by: Calamity on February 20, 2019, 08:44:00 AM
Iím sorry about the Grots too, but I completely understand.  Iím considering doing the same for my Bloodbound.  Theyíve never really floated my boat the way KO and GG do.

Anyway, looking forward to seeing what you do next! :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Evocators! Updated Pics!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on February 20, 2019, 07:51:19 PM
Thanks for the encouragements, guys, parting with the Grots was a bit of a conundrum. Buuut, I've been thinking about where I want to take my Age of Sigmar projects, and what types of armies I'd be most satisfied with painting and playing with. I also find these kinds of a factions as really great chances to experiment and learn more about painting in different ways. I never would have had the bravery to paint patterns on anything before the coming of the Idoneth, which inspired me to new heights of experimentation and uplifting my personal standard.

I thought about that for a bit, and realized something quite important. Since the days of Fantasy, I've always been fascinated by Elven races and the chronicles of their nations and heroes. That hasn't changed with the arrival of the Age of Sigmar. Some of my favorite characters have gone through some weird changes. Alarielle becoming the Goddess of Ghyran, Tyrion going blind, Teclis inflicting near genocide on his first creations. Others have stayed the same, Morathi still scheming and manipulating even though she's a snake monster now, and Malerion still as enigmatic and cruel as ever.

I find myself still in love with aelvendom, and I've resolved that I would like to collect each major Aelf release at some point in time.

I've just about finished collecting the Idoneth Deepkin, of which I'm missing only the Leviadon and some Isharann.

So that leaves: Sylvaneth and Daughters of Khaine that are available to be collected now, and Tyrion's Angelic race of Reason and Malerion's shadow aelves that will be released in the future.

So, I'm deciding whether to redirect all of that goblin credits into Sylvaneth or Daughters of Khaine.

Right now, I am leaning toward Sylvaneth and am researching some schemes for them. If you guys have any opinions, let me know!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Evocators! Updated Pics!)
Post by: Dread on February 21, 2019, 05:44:40 PM
I gotta vote DoK but that's because I've always had dark elves. As for the wood elves, using natural colors has always worked great on them. However, what most people forget is that there are lots of greys in natural colors not just browns and greens...
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Evocators! Updated Pics!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on February 21, 2019, 08:02:12 PM
Yeah, I think Daughters of Khaine's range looks absolutely amazing. The regular Witch Aelves still look really great on their own, and the Melusai, Kheinerai, and Morathi are just out of this world.

I'm also giving them a fair look, there's a lot more resources I can pull from when it comes to painting them too.

Will keep your vote in mind, Dread ;D.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Evocators! Updated Pics!)
Post by: magenb on February 28, 2019, 06:30:54 AM
Sylvaneth are one of the best armies to learn dry brushing on, the army ranges from nice deep groove to tiny ones. DoK models do look amazing.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Evocators! Updated Pics!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on February 28, 2019, 01:11:01 PM
I've placed the orders, using my trade-in credit and some christmas money that I'd yet to spend, the list of what will be arriving will be:

Daughters of Khaine Battleforce Box
Quantity - 1

Melusai
Quantity - 3

Witch Aelves
Quantity - 2

Darkoath Warqueen, (I guess maybe I'm still interested in Slaves to Darkness :))

Some paints.

Not a bad total, paying about $25 out of my own pocket to secure one of the last Battleforce boxes I could find, I'm now three Witch Aelves boxes from reaching my first 2000 point list ;D.

Now I'm just going to have to figure out how to paint them ;) :P. I've got some ideas for color schemes.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Evocators! Updated Pics!)
Post by: Dread on February 28, 2019, 07:35:28 PM
This is fantastic! I'm jealous. Can't wait to see what you cook up. There are so many great colors to use, black, that will really make them stand out, red, but I'm not gonna try to talk you into any of them, black and red. I know you'll come up with, gold trim, some really great colors, white hair with red streaks. But I would never tell, pale skin tone, you what would look great. So I'm in suspense to see what you do.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly! Updated Pics!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on March 1, 2019, 09:50:04 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/r3qxl4a.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qUFjyK6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aUkv8Cc.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly! Updated Pics!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on March 5, 2019, 09:47:18 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/JyrnlfD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/M6jmfbs.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rfOmJZW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xI4yF7z.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Cy0sMRT.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly! Updated Pics!)
Post by: Blazinghand on March 5, 2019, 09:55:39 PM
assembly looks good! can't wait to see these gals with some paint on them
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly! Updated Pics!)
Post by: Alienscar on March 6, 2019, 10:00:41 AM
They look fantastic Myen'Tal. Have you assembled them as per their instructions, or is there a bit of customisation going on anywhere?


(https://i.imgur.com/xI4yF7z.jpg)


Is that Blu-tack on the shoulder of this model, or is something else going on?
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly! Updated Pics!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on March 6, 2019, 11:50:20 AM
Thanks guys, the Melusai were pretty fun and easy to build. The Khinerai were too, but their wings are a bit more flimsy and ended up having to trim some of the extra length off a few of them :P ;D.

@Alienscar: A little different than the instructions suggest, I assembled them as Harpies, but just with the Lifetaker heads instead. I don't like the Harpy heads that much. I find the Lifetaker heads that also come in the kit far more dynamic. Some of the spear posing made gluing the heads a bit tricky, but it worked out very well.

Also that spot on the shoulder join isn't blue tack. It's from accidentally nudging the shoulder while the plastic cement was still drying. It doesn't look as bad as the photo suggest. Should be able to paint over that with no problem.

EDIT: I also did the same thing with the Melusai kit.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly! Updated Pics!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on March 13, 2019, 09:11:32 PM
Assembly Update #3:

UPDATE: "So, Myen'Tal?" I hear you ask. "Painted miniatures, long time, no see?"

A valid question. I've been kind of stuck in painting limbo for the last month, since I've set up temporarily in family's house until I figure out where to relocate to. Don't have much room to paint here, so I haven't really been doing so (even though I want to!), and instead focusing on building more minis.

I hope to rectify this situation sooner rather than later. Especially now since my airbrushes have arrived (finally!)!!! I'll have to go out of town next week to get them. Still have some hobby stuff to purchase before I can start spraying paint, however. And I'll probably need some new housing to accommodate it.

"Alright, Myen'Tal, so what are your goals for your blog at the moment?"

Another good question! Right now, I've been tweaking the 2000 Point goals for the three armies I have now invested in. Of course, changing the army lists will change the armies' composition. I now need more kits, but fortunately, not too many more. I'm not sure when all of this will be acquired, but I'll start plucking away sooner rather than later.

Here is the list:

Stormcast:

1x Evocators
1x Sequitors ETB
1x Sequitors
1x Lord Arcanum on Celestial Dracoline

Optional: 1x Lord Arcanum on Tauralon

Deepkin:

1x Akhelian Guard
1x Akhelian King
1x Akhelian Leviadon
1x Gloomtide Shipwreck

Daughters of Khaine:

3x Witch Aelves
2x Khinerai

Also, here is some progress that I'm making so far:

(https://i.imgur.com/8RY04xm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZrIDBIW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WXMmXOI.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly #3)
Post by: Dread on March 13, 2019, 10:54:57 PM
Good solid start though. Also now know you're my dopelganger. All sorts of building but not much paint slinging. I'm about to get the chaos portion of the Shadowspear  box, ya! Keep at it, check on you soon.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly #3)
Post by: Myen'Tal on March 14, 2019, 09:58:29 AM
Good solid start though. Also now know you're my dopelganger. All sorts of building but not much paint slinging. I'm about to get the chaos portion of the Shadowspear  box, ya! Keep at it, check on you soon.

Sweet, I'm also really tempted to make Chaos my first 40k army. But I'm already snowed under with stuff to paint at the moment... so I need to get to work on that first ;).
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly! Updated Pics!)
Post by: Alienscar on March 15, 2019, 08:23:57 AM
Assembly Update #3:

Also, here is some progress that I'm making so far:

I have got to say that I enjoy looking at your assembly progress. Putting the models together is a large part of the hobby and not something we see a lot of. For me there is a certain appeal to the way an assembled model looks and sometimes I think a bare plastic model can look better than when it has been painted.

After all no one ever looked at Michelangelo's David, or Rodin's The Thinker and said that they would look better with a coat of paint and a highlight.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly #3)
Post by: Myen'Tal on March 15, 2019, 01:52:23 PM
Thanks, Alienscar, I love seeing minis without any paint on them too! You get to see all of the craftsmanship created by the artists and designers who made these, before you make the mini your own with some paint. And you're correct, some of my minis would probably look better without paint! ;).

Also, I have a surprise coming tomorrow! No, it's not anything painted :-[ ;).
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly #3)
Post by: Myen'Tal on March 16, 2019, 05:00:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/I42HOjr.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly #3)
Post by: Calamity on March 16, 2019, 05:16:58 PM
Reinforcements!  ;D

Iím keen to see what you do with these MyeníTal!  :)
Title: Re: Myen\'Tal\'s Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly #3)
Post by: Myen'Tal on March 16, 2019, 06:43:43 PM
Reinforcements!  ;D

Iím keen to see what you do with these MyeníTal!  :)

Indeed! After a couple of games with the Deepkin, I think I've hoped on the All Akhelian Corps lists that are popular right now. Haven't given up on the Namarti, think I'll use them in a Namarti Corps list that I'll build in the future.

Just need one more Akhelian King!

I probably won't touch these newer models until I get the airbrush up and running. But I've got some ideas on how best to tackle them :)! I'll just keep building for now.

(https://i.imgur.com/rBa7sra.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NsJCLYO.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly #3)
Post by: Dread on March 16, 2019, 11:19:39 PM
Oh boy! Gonna be great, look just like mine as of now. We both need to paint but when we do and set them by each other, it will be greatness for sure.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly #4)
Post by: magenb on March 17, 2019, 05:39:45 PM
The models look great, your getting the pro-warhammer "to paint" queue :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly #4)
Post by: Myen'Tal on March 17, 2019, 07:46:48 PM
Oh boy! Gonna be great, look just like mine as of now. We both need to paint but when we do and set them by each other, it will be greatness for sure.

No doubt, Dread, it will be glorious! I'm curious how you plan to do your bases? I'm thinking about trying to make a lava base via a Warhammer TV Tutorial. It will definitely work for the Witch Aelves and Khinerai, as they are already above ground. Not sure how it'll work for the Cauldron or the Melusai though... might look like they're sinking in some cataclysm rather than fighting lol!

I'm also thinking that I might do lava bases for... a Scourged Renegade Chapter of Chaos Space Marines :o! Might go ahead and trade off my Stormcast, the Ironjawz that I bought years ago, and the two limited edition Nighthaunt models. I think I only need two AoS armies until Slaves to Darkness come out sometime!

The models look great, your getting the pro-warhammer "to paint" queue :)


Indeed! I've got some friends who are liking AoS, so I'll probably trade my Stormcast off to them! Really want to focus on the Aelves in AoS for the moment, so we'll see!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly #4)
Post by: Calamity on March 17, 2019, 07:47:56 PM
Sweet minis MyeníTal!  :)

Iím loving how much AoS is on the go in the projects blog.  Great to see how fantasy is sharing the platform with 40k.  ;D
Title: Re: Myen\'Tal\'s Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly #3)
Post by: Alienscar on March 18, 2019, 03:18:04 PM
I'll just keep building for now.

The models are looking good again Myen'Tal. I like the look of Volturnos and the Bloodwrack. I am not sure about the giant turtle, so can't wait to see your assembled model.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly #4)
Post by: Looshkin on March 23, 2019, 07:36:01 AM
Cool stuff MyeníTal. I think I need to hire you to build my kits...it always takes 3 times as long to build as I think it will. Drives me nuts.

Now get painting. Looshkin craves paint! Paint for the Paint God.*


*Please note, Iím not calling myself a paint God. A God of Paint would have a far cooler name than me...like DuníKhan Rhod Es or some amphetamine parrot. Maybe just Khav Elíieer.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly #4)
Post by: Myen'Tal on March 23, 2019, 01:19:41 PM
Thanks, guys,

As an update, I guess I'm working on trading my stormcast in. I'm trying to downsize down to Daughters of Khaine and Idoneth Deepkin, for Age of Sigmar. My idea is to have two AoS armies this year, which I already have, and expand into Warhammer 40k by the end of the year.

Chaos Space Marines and Sisters of Battle are on my to-collect-list.

Not sure when I'll actually get around to it, but I'm drawing up plans. I'm thinking I want to do a Renegades Force from the new Vigilus book, the Red Corsairs or the Scourged look like some really cool, thematic forces that I have some ideas on for paint schemes. I'm looking to get a hold of the rules, so I can start crafting some armies.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (DoK Assembly #4)
Post by: Myen'Tal on March 31, 2019, 06:26:07 PM
War Turtle!

EDIT: Cauldron of Blood!

I decided against assembling the crew and most of the accessories such as the weapon caches and banner. Anyone have any advice on building - painting the crew and then attaching it to the model?

(https://i.imgur.com/HtvDzmW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/N3vhuY8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LqBKFwk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZwfsJrB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3c2oaxS.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Leviadon & Cauldron)
Post by: Alienscar on April 1, 2019, 03:47:56 AM
Chris Peach has a done a Painting Guide (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JntukXNVms8) for the Leviadon and he suggests painting/assembling the turtle, howdah and crew separately. At the end of the video he just says to assemble them all together with super glue, but doesn't show how this is done.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Leviadon & Cauldron)
Post by: Myen'Tal on April 1, 2019, 02:58:11 PM
Thanks for the heads up, Alienscar! Using superglue did occur to me, but I wasn't certain about doing it. Perhaps I'll give it a shot!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Leviadon & Cauldron)
Post by: magenb on April 2, 2019, 07:13:34 PM
for the Leviadon and he suggests painting/assembling the turtle, howdah and crew separately.

I do this for any model that has parts that will get in the way. Super glue can clump so be careful with how much you use if you want to try it. Plastic glues can still work, just depends on how think the paint is. Another option is to carfullly scratch/sand off the undercoat where the parts will join, so its still plastic on plastic.

I would also add that you don't want to glue the platform on, painting under it would be a right pain, especally if your dry brushing the shell.



nice Avatar of Khaine, that model is in on my "one day" list :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Leviadon & Cauldron)
Post by: Myen'Tal on April 2, 2019, 08:10:39 PM
Thanks for the advice, Mage, I'll put it to good use. I removed the Howdah for the most part and will keep it that way until it is painted. I'm still trying to figure out how I want to paint it. I'm thinking on a "Void Turtle" where the shell of the Leviadon is painted jet black and highlighted with brighter blues (Like the Mor'Phann Enclave). Not sure what I'll do for the skin though.

Ideas, ideas ;D!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Leviadon & Cauldron)
Post by: magenb on April 2, 2019, 10:35:11 PM
Blue and green still works, but its all the additional stuff like the platform that was the headache for me as in the sheer phsyical size of each of the parts.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Leviadon & Cauldron)
Post by: Looshkin on April 3, 2019, 05:29:39 AM
That Leviadon looks awesome...it's huge!

One thing though...maybe you should rename this thread the Building Chronicles...not much painting going on here  :o
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Leviadon & Cauldron)
Post by: Calamity on April 3, 2019, 07:15:51 AM
Have you looked at any pics of real life turtles for inspiration MyeníTal?  On second thought, I think most of them are green anyway.  ;D
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Leviadon & Cauldron)
Post by: Myen'Tal on April 6, 2019, 02:08:27 PM
Thanks for the advice guys! I think I'll do that Void Turtle Shell along with the green skin. I think that'll look pretty fancy. Not sure what to do about the Howdah, but I've some ideas!

@Loosh: Patience, Master Jedi ;D. I simply do not have the room at the moment to keep painting, but I'll have some when my situation changes by the end of the month. I'm also ready to paint something!

So, question for all of the Hobby Maniacs on this forum ;D! So, I am at a crossroads... Originally, I was planning on branching into 40k with a Chaos Space Marine army. I can still do that and a part of me still wants too, but the problem is that Chaos still don't have the greatest rules and some of options in the new kits are somewhat bizarre. I mean, there's only one Chaingun in the Havoc Box, and only about one set of each melee weapon in the Terminator box.

I guess there'll always be third party bitz stores, but who knows at what point those may sell out for a good amount of time. I don't really want to be dependent on that.

And now, Slaanesh has been revealed, and I think it would contrast with my two aelven armies extremely well! I love the new models, and I've always been a Slaanesh fan too. So, I could go this route instead.

However, my last option is to jump into 40k from a different angle. Those new Vanguard Primaris look absolutely incredible... thing is, they don't have much in the way of a full range at the moment. I'm sure that'll be rectified by sometime later in the year though.

So... any suggestions about how I should go about choosing an option? :)


P.S: Seraphon also look really cool!!!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Leviadon & Cauldron)
Post by: Dread on April 6, 2019, 05:51:31 PM
So I just got into chaos myself and believe me, the rules are solid. Last night my Necrons went up against them and whew, it was a good fight. He did a first turn deep strike with warp talons, psyched their movement and he assaulted a 14 strong warrior unit. Totalled them in cc and consolidated into my 5 praetorians, that was his downfall. Apparently since he engaged thru that and had already attacked, I got a free cc with them and took out 5. Then on my turn I finished them off but at a great lose of the 14 warriors. Abandon is really hard to kill too so, chaos is a good crossroad in my opinion for you. Besides the fact that they are fantastic models. As far as putting units together, GW has always done that to us, like the new chaos space marines box only has 2 plasma pistols but it gives you the choice for 2 champions. Give and take, buy more.

The new Slaneesh,oh boy, that's the mark I've been using on my black legion. I have daemonettes I've had for years. Now I can summon them to the battle field using reinforcement rules, different but I like it. The new models looks sweet. The keeper of secrets looks amazing.

I hope this helps.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Leviadon & Cauldron)
Post by: Myen'Tal on April 6, 2019, 07:48:10 PM
Thanks for your honest opinion, Dread! It's truly appreciated ;D! Yeah I really love the new Chaos Space Marine models, I guess I really just need to understand what makes a good Chaos Marine list... there's so many options and I'm not sure I understand how all of them mesh together into a coherent fighting force.

I really also love the new Slaanesh! It might be something that will just have to wait for now though. I promised a friend of mine that I'd branch into 40k sooner rather than later, and though I like Daemons for Age of Sigmar, I rather play as one of the other factions in 40k.

So, I'll think on it :).
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Leviadon & Cauldron)
Post by: magenb on April 6, 2019, 09:25:17 PM
Chaos have a lot of filth in their kit bag in 40k. So you should be able to have some fun friendly games out of the gate.


Dread, There have been changes to deep striking, last I read, turn 1 deep strike is only in your own DMZ and there was big restrictions on how they could move after arriving as well. Not sure they could pull that move off any more.

Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Leviadon & Cauldron)
Post by: Dread on April 6, 2019, 10:41:49 PM
Thanks Mag I'll check on it. It was really op but worked kinda in my favor.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (Leviadon & Cauldron)
Post by: Myen'Tal on April 20, 2019, 04:17:43 PM
Alright guys, I've purchased some more brushes, refreshed the paints that needed to be replaced, and I've got my models ready! Just waiting on my most recent order of paints to get delivered, then it's time to take up the brush again!

Also, I'm using the camera from my new Samsung phone. Let me know if I should make any adjustments. Personally, I think the images are coming out with much more pinpoint precision and higher quality.

Also, in other news: I played a game against a good friend of mine, who brought his Maggotkin to the field. I created a Battle Report for that in the Age of Sigmar forum.

And in other, other news:

(https://i.imgur.com/XYH1hGL.jpg)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave: The Painting Chronicles (High Priestess of Khaine)
Post by: Myen'Tal on April 26, 2019, 11:49:45 PM
New Paint Station:
(http://i.imgur.com/mSSltZB.jpg) (https://imgur.com/mSSltZB)

New Airbrush (Airbrush Booth on the way!):
(http://i.imgur.com/wMNwGfV.jpg) (https://imgur.com/wMNwGfV)

Godsworn Hunt Experiment! Trying thinned down Army Painter grey brush on primer:
(https://i.imgur.com/aEyo8xf.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/S6nVOcq.jpg) (https://imgur.com/S6nVOcq)

Soulrender!!!
(https://i.imgur.com/WewuLU5.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/YIH5neP.jpg) (https://imgur.com/YIH5neP)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Grey Primer and Soulrender Edition)
Post by: Alienscar on April 27, 2019, 04:28:09 PM
Your Soulrender looks cool and I like how there is a metallic sheen to the finish. It is a shame that the harsh shadows are making it difficult to see any detail in your photo's though.
Title: Re: Myen\'Tal\'s Conclave! (Grey Primer and Soulrender Edition)
Post by: Myen'Tal on April 27, 2019, 04:48:28 PM
Your Soulrender looks cool and I like how there is a metallic sheen to the finish. It is a shame that the harsh shadows are making it difficult to see any detail in your photo's though.

Hi Alienscar, thanks for the compliment and sorry about lighting! Thanks for letting me know about that, I'll take a few more pictures in better light and post them up in a little bit!

New Photos for Soulrender! Let me know if anymore adjustments should be made :).

(http://i.imgur.com/tFJTeTq.jpg) (https://imgur.com/tFJTeTq)
(http://i.imgur.com/BepkJiB.jpg) (https://imgur.com/BepkJiB)

Speckled Akhelian!

(http://i.imgur.com/NtjlwYV.jpg) (https://imgur.com/NtjlwYV)
(http://i.imgur.com/qXUCSR3.jpg) (https://imgur.com/qXUCSR3)
(http://i.imgur.com/7IIulqp.jpg) (https://imgur.com/7IIulqp)

Grey Primer Brush on Experiment:
(http://i.imgur.com/2vYBhns.jpg) (https://imgur.com/2vYBhns)
(http://i.imgur.com/YQwSCwk.jpg) (https://imgur.com/YQwSCwk)
(http://i.imgur.com/PkeFkGH.jpg) (https://imgur.com/PkeFkGH)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Grey Primer Experiment, Soulrender & Speckled Akhelian)
Post by: magenb on April 28, 2019, 08:57:06 PM
Soulrender is looking great mate.


Have you worked out a colour scheme for the snakes yet?
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Grey Primer Experiment, Soulrender & Speckled Akhelian)
Post by: Myen'Tal on April 28, 2019, 10:39:25 PM
Soulrender is looking great mate.


Have you worked out a colour scheme for the snakes yet?

Thanks, Mage, I'm really happy with how he came out!

As for the Snakes, I haven't chosen a color scheme yet. There's so many potential combinations that work well with the Daughters of Khaine. It'll take me a little while to choose one :). I'm torn between doing a bright and vibrant scheme or something more brooding.

For now, though, I'll keep on trucking with the Deepkin :).

(http://i.imgur.com/tlofIy0.jpg) (https://imgur.com/tlofIy0)
(http://i.imgur.com/Mw1Uzy9.jpg) (https://imgur.com/Mw1Uzy9)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Grey Primer Experiment, Soulrender & Speckled Akhelian)
Post by: Dread on April 29, 2019, 06:26:58 PM
So jealous. Such a cool model and I just can't afford it. My b day is coming up and I'm going to try and get one of the DoK box sets or the loon curse set, not sure yet but one of them.

Anywho, I can't wait to see what your going to do with her and the rest of the army but understand it'll be a bit, water elves are cool too!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Grey Primer Experiment, Soulrender & Speckled Akhelian)
Post by: Myen'Tal on April 29, 2019, 08:19:25 PM
So jealous. Such a cool model and I just can't afford it. My b day is coming up and I'm going to try and get one of the DoK box sets or the loon curse set, not sure yet but one of them.

Anywho, I can't wait to see what your going to do with her and the rest of the army but understand it'll be a bit, water elves are cool too!

Thanks, Dread! Yeah, I don't think you can go wrong with either box set to be honest! Both are pretty amazing on their own!

I did do the grey brush on primer experiment, but I think I'm going to wait until I get airbrushing before I start on the Daughters in earnest.

Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Grey Primer Experiment, Soulrender & Speckled Akhelian)
Post by: Myen'Tal on May 6, 2019, 01:18:11 PM
Daughters of Khaine Assembly Update:

Sorry if the photos are a bit off, I'm working in a room with not that much light in it. I've only really got my LED Lamp and some ceiling lights to work with. I've got to be careful with the LED lamp or it'll create harsh shadows. Going to have to find another solution I think to that problem.

(http://i.imgur.com/9a4P3wv.jpg) (https://imgur.com/9a4P3wv)
(http://i.imgur.com/yoAcWCL.jpg) (https://imgur.com/yoAcWCL)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Grey Primer Experiment, Soulrender & Speckled Akhelian)
Post by: magenb on May 6, 2019, 11:04:18 PM
looking good, can't wait to see how you paint them up.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Grey Primer Experiment, Soulrender & Speckled Akhelian)
Post by: Dread on May 6, 2019, 11:28:31 PM
Looking good. The sculptures are so beautiful, I stare at mine sometimes and think how good they look in plastic and almost don't want to paint them. Anyhow, will be anxiously waiting to see yours.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Grey Primer Experiment, Soulrender & Speckled Akhelian)
Post by: Alienscar on May 10, 2019, 05:00:57 AM
I echo Dread's sentiment in that even unpainted your assembled army looks glorious (if a bit dark  :))
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Grey Primer Experiment, Soulrender & Speckled Akhelian)
Post by: Myen'Tal on May 10, 2019, 10:56:22 PM
Thanks guys, glad that you're liking them! ;D

I'll actually have an important update in a week or two. I've officially ordered an air compressor and the entire Citadel Air Range. I've also gotten a few auxiliary items from the vallejo range. I should now be officially ready to start airbrushing in a week or so.

EDIT: So, bad news, the sylvaneth stuff that I bought got refunded today. Not my choice, or the seller's fault. Looncurse shortage meant that he didn't get any. So, not certain if I'll jump into sylvaneth immediately now. Store owner is offering me 30% off, so I might get some as anyway 😋.

EDIT #2:

Managed to snatch two of the last three in a gaming store about half an hour away! Disaster averted!

(http://i.imgur.com/jpLZhxO.jpg) (https://imgur.com/jpLZhxO)

(http://i.imgur.com/OsZ7qXF.jpg) (https://imgur.com/OsZ7qXF)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: magenb on May 12, 2019, 06:04:03 AM
man the AoS model look awesome :)

The new trees look great too, I want to see how easy it is to move models through them as the old wood are kinda terrible.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Calamity on May 12, 2019, 06:10:51 AM
You got two looncurse boxes?  :o  Iím so jelly!  ;D  I wasnít able to get any myself.  Will have to eBay the squig boss.

But anyway, great work on everything.  :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on May 12, 2019, 12:43:54 PM
man the AoS model look awesome :)

The new trees look great too, I want to see how easy it is to move models through them as the old wood are kinda terrible.

Yeah, I've been on the fence about Sylvaneth for several months now. But when the new stuff was reve as led, I realized that I had to have it  :P. Now that I've got them in person though, the models are gorgeous! Not sure why I held off of them for so long.

Agreed, as someone who has used the woods as terrain, it's a complete pain to move stuff through them. The new Wyldwoods don't seem to have a place where you can move into them, maybe I should look again.

You got two looncurse boxes?  :o  Iím so jelly!  ;D  I wasnít able to get any myself.  Will have to eBay the squig boss.

But anyway, great work on everything.  :)

Yep, got crazy lucky getting a box at all, let alone two! Better be quick about that Squig Boss, who knows how long he'll be on the market.

If you were State side, I would hooked you up ;D! Thought about keeping the gloomspite side, but I've decided to sell it. Don't really need a fourth AoS army right now  :P.

Thanks, guys!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Calamity on May 12, 2019, 03:28:19 PM
Thanks for the offer MyeníTal.  :)

Actually, I donít suppose itís possible for me to buy one of those squig bosses off you is it?  Iím thinking about p&p and custom duties etc.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on May 12, 2019, 03:45:44 PM
Hi Calamity, I actually just sold both of my sets this morning. I actually told Wyddr the same thing. Someone offered me $160 for both lots, so I couldn't turn it down.

Sorry guys, I'm sold out!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Calamity on May 12, 2019, 04:23:29 PM
Aw, ok.  It was worth a shot anyway.  ;D
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on May 12, 2019, 07:21:45 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/yAdhcc2.jpg) (https://imgur.com/yAdhcc2)

Only thing I'm missing is a connector for my airbrush to link to my compressor. Will go look for one next weekend. Then... shall we begin ;D?
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: magenb on May 13, 2019, 07:51:20 PM
nice. Buy some elcheapo plastic green army men/tanks. They are good practise dummies :)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Dread on May 13, 2019, 08:27:23 PM
What Magenb said, definitely. Glad you're moving up but remember it won't fix everything, trust me most of us have been there with the splatter or the spitting and clogging. So be wary. There's also a lot that can be accomplished like smooth white, shadowing, solid base coats, etc. Just don't be afraid to ask for guidance, lots of pros on here.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on May 13, 2019, 08:37:58 PM
What Magenb said, definitely. Glad you're moving up but remember it won't fix everything, trust me most of us have been there with the splatter or the spitting and clogging. So be wary. There's also a lot that can be accomplished like smooth white, shadowing, solid base coats, etc. Just don't be afraid to ask for guidance, lots of pros on here.

nice. Buy some elcheapo plastic green army men/tanks. They are good practise dummies :)

Thanks, guys, I don't expect to be an airbrush master over night. When I have questions, I'll definitely come to you guys if research cannot solve it. I appreciate the good will! I'm still waiting on some auxiliary supplies... Flow Improver, thinner, cleaner, etc. So I'm not sure when I'll exactly be able to get started.

(http://i.imgur.com/w3pcCTk.jpg) (https://imgur.com/w3pcCTk)
(http://i.imgur.com/DlE7H7J.jpg) (https://imgur.com/DlE7H7J)
(http://i.imgur.com/PYJcVgs.jpg) (https://imgur.com/PYJcVgs)
(http://i.imgur.com/9QRvdD7.jpg) (https://imgur.com/9QRvdD7)
(http://i.imgur.com/FiaBuES.jpg) (https://imgur.com/FiaBuES)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: magenb on May 14, 2019, 11:26:24 PM
Looking good. I originally grabbed some of these guys to do an exodite conversions, but I really enjoyed painting my ancients, simple washes and dry brushing works really well and plenty of room to correct things if(when) I screwed up lol. So much so I never ended up trying to convert them.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on May 15, 2019, 08:24:36 PM
Thanks, Mage! Yeah, cannot wait to get started on this Sylvaneth army to be honest. I've narrowed down the schemes that I want to do them in to either Clan Gnarlroot, Heartwood, or Harvestboon. I think I'm favoring Harvestboon honestly, they have a really striking color scheme that I like.

I've actually got another start collecting box for Sylvaneth on the way, thanks to a trade I made for some Slaanesh stuff I initially bought.

I think I'll assemble a Durthu for my next treeman. I've got about 18 T-Revenants left. Three Kurnoth Hunters to go. And a bunch of Dyrads that I haven't touched yet!

EDIT: Trying to decide the configuration of my T-Revenants. Not certain if I want 2 units of 10 or 4 units of 5 with command groups. I understand Tree Revenants aren't that great with the current rules. But that might change with the new battletome... do I take the risk and make some 10 strong units?
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Dread on May 15, 2019, 10:35:55 PM
Looking good, great start for sure on the army. As for the question, in earlier versions of fantasy I would have gone with 10 strong, I still lean towards more wound units but with AoS, units of 5 could work great. I guess it really depends on what their role is going to be on the battle field. I'm not familiar with their rules but if they have a high toughness then they could be good with just 5 for holding units while stronger units can get in position to strike. If strong and multiple attacks, then they could be better at 10 strong to tear up enemy units. I hope this helps.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on May 15, 2019, 10:51:31 PM
Thanks for the advice, Dread! Well, Tree Revanents have a 5+ save and 1 wound a piece. Their points cost for 5 models also kind of hampers their ability to be taken in greater numbers. But this is for the old rules.

Dryads are simply more effective at the moment. I'm hoping to see some real changes for the T-Revs in the new battletome. They're good for board control and objective grabbing, but I'd like to use the battleline option as an actual frontline unit.

So that's my conundrum, Haha. I'll go ahead and assemble two command squads, then leave my other two unassembled until the time drops.

Speaking of AoS, how are those Goblins coming along Dread?
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Dread on May 16, 2019, 08:13:20 PM
At a stand still again. Health problems again. REALLY REALLY wanted looncurse but no money which is good because our local store only got 2 in and gone that quick. I'm actually trying to force myself to go back to my hobby room right now and paint but wore put from work today, ehh, who knows just might. Been living thru watching ya'll paint. Our KT groups have dissolved but hoping the release of elites will kick it back up. Still don't know if it will or if I'll get time. I got an 87 Chevy pick up last week and we're changing the engine out so I hope to get some game time in after working in it.

Blah blah blah. I got long winded there. If I paint tonight, I post progress pics. Thanks for asking.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on May 16, 2019, 10:43:26 PM
At a stand still again. Health problems again. REALLY REALLY wanted looncurse but no money which is good because our local store only got 2 in and gone that quick. I'm actually trying to force myself to go back to my hobby room right now and paint but wore put from work today, ehh, who knows just might. Been living thru watching ya'll paint. Our KT groups have dissolved but hoping the release of elites will kick it back up. Still don't know if it will or if I'll get time. I got an 87 Chevy pick up last week and we're changing the engine out so I hope to get some game time in after working in it.

Blah blah blah. I got long winded there. If I paint tonight, I post progress pics. Thanks for asking.

That sucks, Dread (except the Pickup Truck, that's cool 8)). I hope you'll be in good health soon! Also hope you'll get some paint time sooner rather than later. I now know what not being able to paint is like, and it's a whole lot of boredom ;).

Here's more hobby progress for you to ogle at!

(http://i.imgur.com/YLjDYwO.jpg) (https://imgur.com/YLjDYwO)
Left side, regular paints. Right side, citadel air paints.
(http://i.imgur.com/fudWkSq.jpg) (https://imgur.com/fudWkSq)

Question for you guys. So, I've purchased the Vallejo Mecha Color Primer (Black and White). I've just now read the instructions on the primer and it mentions that it has a satin finish when it dries. Is that going to be a problem for a matte finish if I paint over that? Do I just need to hit a primed miniature with a matte varnish before I start painting?
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Dread on May 17, 2019, 01:53:21 AM
It's a primer so satin makes no difference. You can paint any finish paint over no prob.when you seal the finished model with gloss, all glossy, with satin, all satin and with matte it will all be dull.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: magenb on May 18, 2019, 04:57:56 AM
Regarding satin finish, it depends on what you put on top. If you pop a semi transperant paint or wash it will turn out a little different, but if you put a base or layer over top its no real difference.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Dread on May 18, 2019, 03:33:35 PM
Only if you don't seal coat it afterwards then you can really see a difference. You are correct my friend.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on May 20, 2019, 11:05:42 PM
Only if you don't seal coat it afterwards then you can really see a difference. You are correct my friend.

Regarding satin finish, it depends on what you put on top. If you pop a semi transperant paint or wash it will turn out a little different, but if you put a base or layer over top its no real difference.

Thanks, guys, that's one problem laid to rest. I still need an adapter for my airbrush, which I'm planning on grabbing from our local tool store this weekend. Still waiting on some items to ship before I begin though.

In the meantime, here is what I've been working on:

(http://i.imgur.com/CyZh2Nz.jpg) (https://imgur.com/CyZh2Nz)

So, what's left for the Sylvaneth that I own, you ask?

1 Durthu
32 Dryads
5 Tree-Revenants
1 Branchwych
... and that's it for now!

In the future, I'm planning to have three squads of six for each of the Kurnoth Hunter variants.
Also I want Allarielle. Besides the new Sylvaneth stuff, I think that'll do it for the time benig.

As for my other Aelven armies, here is the list of stuff I haven't collected / haven't assembled yet.

15 Khinerai Harpies
60 Witch Aelves
10 Melusai
1 Akhelian King
1 Ylthari's Guardians

And that's about it! I'm selling off all of my Namarti, because I primed them black and am wanting to do another, more vibrant scheme. But this time, I think I'll be focused solely on Namarti Reavers. I'm not sold on the Thralls, at least until General's Handbook comes out.

Thanks for tuning in!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Dread on May 21, 2019, 09:17:28 PM
Oh so cool! I'm so glad to see them all assembled. Now the grueling part, haha, I mean fun part. Will be waiting, trying to paint too, on your progress.

BTW, sad your selling them but understand, I've done the same thing for the same reason but replacing them, great. I've had 3 dark elf armies and now working on the 4th. I've had 4 sisters of battle armies and will be getting a 5th. Don't even get me started on orcs, vampire counts and the many others. But now I've slowed down, it's a good thing but then the new stuff comes out and its, EEEKK! Bug eyed and figuring out what to rid of to afford the new. Great addiction tho!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on May 21, 2019, 11:48:24 PM
Oh so cool! I'm so glad to see them all assembled. Now the grueling part, haha, I mean fun part. Will be waiting, trying to paint too, on your progress.

BTW, sad your selling them but understand, I've done the same thing for the same reason but replacing them, great. I've had 3 dark elf armies and now working on the 4th. I've had 4 sisters of battle armies and will be getting a 5th. Don't even get me started on orcs, vampire counts and the many others. But now I've slowed down, it's a good thing but then the new stuff comes out and its, EEEKK! Bug eyed and figuring out what to rid of to afford the new. Great addiction tho!

Thanks Dread! I think after the first few attempts to start up armies that caught my fancy, I now know that I'm not interested in every new thing that comes out there. There are still a few armies outside of aelves that I'd like to take up sometime, but right now I have enough to keep my occupied and satisfied. I was a bit saddened to sell off my stormcast, goblins, and the little slaanesh that I had, but having the armies that I've always wanted makes me much happier, haha!

Got nothing more to sell off for new stuff anymore though :P. Right now I'm just waiting for the new General's Handbook, Sylvaneth Battletome and related items, and a few of the contrast paints.

I actually was very excited to paint sylvaneth with the contrast paints, but after some thought... I really want to give it some extra attention rather than settle for battle ready.

I've decided on the Heartwood Glade for my color scheme. Cannot wait to finally get the rest of my stuff in and start painting!

EDIT: Actually, still haven't decided on my paint scheme yet... I want to do something different than the GW Schemes. I'll have to look at the paints I have and see what works. Also need to see more of these contrast paints before I decide to use them or not. Want to see the more advanced techniques they can be used for.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: magenb on May 22, 2019, 11:19:55 PM
There are still a few armies outside of aelves that I'd like to take up sometime

HERESY!! ;)

Its good to let a favourite army to take ROOT, you will have plenty of time to BRANCH out anyway. It will stop you going BARKing mad from having paint yet another pointy ear... /dad_jokes

From what I've seen so far the contrast paints are to let you do the base colour and wash all in one go as a one thick coat. It will be interesting to see if anyone finds another use for them though. I'll be interested to see how they work with big transistions, like on a long cloak.


Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on May 23, 2019, 08:10:03 PM
Well, more information about the contrast paints has come up form Games Workshop. I believe I am now more interested in ever. When these go on preorder, I'll be investing in them!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: magenb on May 23, 2019, 11:31:56 PM
here's a review on using contrast paints
I Spent A Weekend With Contrast Paints - Thoughts and Discussion - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6SBDopWqeU)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on May 24, 2019, 02:56:23 PM
Thanks for the info, Mage, I appreciate it!

Another question: So, I already have some Akhelians that are primed and base coated. Would it be an issue to spray another coat of primer over them?

(http://i.imgur.com/HARvsED.jpg) (https://imgur.com/HARvsED)
(http://i.imgur.com/zvxeSim.jpg) (https://imgur.com/zvxeSim)
(http://i.imgur.com/OPZBQto.jpg) (https://imgur.com/OPZBQto)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: magenb on May 24, 2019, 06:57:29 PM
The two primers should stick just fine. You'll just have an extra layer of paint, so keep it as thin as you can. 


I'm assuming you want to put on a light primer. One trick I've seen with speed painters, is to spray a dark primer, then a second light primer from above, so most of the shading is done.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on May 24, 2019, 07:17:47 PM
Hi Mage,

Well the thing is that the new contrast paints require these two new spray primers, which can as also be touched up with their base variants. It's in the new warhammer community article about contrast paints.

Now that I think about it, the new Contrast Primer is also coming in base paint variants... Don't need to prime them again, just need to add another layer of paint I think!

EDIT:

So, a good friend of mine here in Nashville texted me some cool stuff that he's working on. I think it's really cool what he achieved, and asked him if I could share it here on the blog.

Here is my friend Horacio's Daughters of Khaine WIP!

(http://i.imgur.com/FD1oZVl.jpg) (https://imgur.com/FD1oZVl)
(http://i.imgur.com/Eiij2aR.jpg) (https://imgur.com/Eiij2aR)
(http://i.imgur.com/gP8lOcC.jpg) (https://imgur.com/gP8lOcC)

EDIT #2:

So, here is what's on my table at the moment!

(http://i.imgur.com/0xy4rm3.jpg) (https://imgur.com/0xy4rm3)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Life...Is...Rising!!!)
Post by: magenb on May 26, 2019, 07:31:48 PM
Well the thing is that the new contrast paints require these two new spray primers, which can as also be touched up with their base variants. It's in the new warhammer community article about contrast paints.

The new contrast primers are simply light colours, as the contrast paints are translucent. You can just put a light paint over them instead of the primer, so yeah give that airbrush a work out :)

The shark is looking great mate, the skin is looking very smooth.
Title: Re: Myen\'Tal\'s Conclave! (None are safe when there\'s blood in the water!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on May 27, 2019, 01:34:18 AM
Thanks for the compliment, Mage! I actually gave the Citadel Air paints a try with a brush. I see now that they really are meant for airbrushes. You can get some of the colors to work with a brush, but you have to apply in really thin layers. I guess that's something I should be practicing anyway, so I went ahead and applied several thin coats over the course of painting.

Seems like it worked ;D.

Post Merge: May 27, 2019, 06:51:00 PM
In the future, please use the modify button. Double posting is against the forum rules, and for that reason, the system merged your posts.

(http://i.imgur.com/70tONpt.jpg) (https://imgur.com/70tONpt)
(http://i.imgur.com/f5I6AlM.jpg) (https://imgur.com/f5I6AlM)
(http://i.imgur.com/XzoX94z.jpg) (https://imgur.com/XzoX94z)
(http://i.imgur.com/sNE64VD.jpg) (https://imgur.com/sNE64VD)
(http://i.imgur.com/HHZvYFb.jpg) (https://imgur.com/HHZvYFb)
(http://i.imgur.com/QxcNUeD.jpg) (https://imgur.com/QxcNUeD)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (None are safe when there's blood in the water!)
Post by: magenb on May 27, 2019, 06:59:57 PM
I actually gave the Citadel Air paints a try with a brush.

I have not tried the Citadel Air paints, but the Vallejo Air White is fantastic for doing thin white lines with a brush. You can also use the metallic air colours like a wash on metals, especially if you want more of a matte finish rather than a glossy oil.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Allopex #2 Finished!!!)
Post by: Dread on May 27, 2019, 08:27:35 PM
Im, well, I'm speechless. The colors, the overall texture, just wow! You just get better and better. Great job.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Allopex #2 Finished!!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on May 27, 2019, 09:14:11 PM
I actually gave the Citadel Air paints a try with a brush.

I have not tried the Citadel Air paints, but the Vallejo Air White is fantastic for doing thin white lines with a brush. You can also use the metallic air colours like a wash on metals, especially if you want more of a matte finish rather than a glossy oil.

Great to know, Mage! I remember giving the Vallejo Air range a try several years ago, but I never really got back into it since then. How do you find the Vallejo Air compared to the Vallejo Game Air range? And that's a question for anyone who would like to answer :). Do you think I should look into those ranges at all?

Im, well, I'm speechless. The colors, the overall texture, just wow! You just get better and better. Great job.

Thanks, Dread! Glad you think I'm improving! I'm super stoked about how this one came out lol. Glad that you like it. ;D

EDIT:

So, here's my current Sylvaneth force:

(http://i.imgur.com/BmS4MJI.jpg) (https://imgur.com/BmS4MJI)

So, what's crossed off of my list?

20 Tree Revenants
12 Dryads
1 Treelord Ancient
2 Arch Revenants
1 Branchwych
6 Kurnoth Hunters with Scythes

What's on the build next list?

1 Treelord Ancient
1 Treelord
1 Branchwych
20 Dryads
And that's it until the Battletome drops!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Allopex #2 Finished!!!)
Post by: Looshkin on May 28, 2019, 03:36:44 AM
That Allopex is drop dead gorgeous Myen'Tal. I really like the colour scheme and your brush work has improved a lot as well, leading to a really clean finish.

Lovely mate, I really like how your Idoneth are shaping up.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Allopex #2 Finished!!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on May 28, 2019, 11:32:06 AM
That Allopex is drop dead gorgeous Myen'Tal. I really like the colour scheme and your brush work has improved a lot as well, leading to a really clean finish.

Lovely mate, I really like how your Idoneth are shaping up.

Thanks, Loosh! That means a lot to me ;D! I'm glad everyone thinks I'm getting better! I'll probably be taking a break until the contrast paints come out. I think I'll be putting the Deepkin on hold for the moment and paint some Sylvaneth when the contrast is available.

We'll see.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Allopex #2 Finished!!!)
Post by: magenb on May 28, 2019, 07:33:19 PM

Great to know, Mage! I remember giving the Vallejo Air range a try several years ago, but I never really got back into it since then. How do you find the Vallejo Air compared to the Vallejo Game Air range? And that's a question for anyone who would like to answer :). Do you think I should look into those ranges at all?

I was going off memory for the name of the paint range, I've only tried Vallejo Model Air range and not that many colours. Most of my Vallejo paints are from their model series rather than their game series, but I don't see much difference between them.

What I have noticed is that Vallejo paint colours separate far more often than citadel's (normal paint not the Air paints). Just means they need more shaking before use. There is a colour conversion chart, but to be honest its hit and miss, for example, "Cavalry Brown" in model colour is meant to be close to "Wazdakka Red" in GW, but it is actually very close to "Martian Ironearth", which is no where near Wazdakka. I now take the empty GW pot with me to double check.


The Allopex looks awesome. I really like the Elve's skin tone and the colour for the frame the gunner is standing on is brilliant.


Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Allopex #2 Finished!!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on May 28, 2019, 08:25:32 PM
Thanks, Mage, I appreciate the feedback and the compliment! It looks like everyone loved the shark, which I'm really stoked about! 

I'll probably be taking a break until Contrast comes out. That's for painting though. Will remain assembling what I have. Which is like two Melusai boxes and 4 more Dryads.

The Start Collecting Box I received in a trade has not shown up yet. My good friend who bought the box will wait one more day before calling Ebay about it.

So that is unfortunately on hold. I guess in the meantime I'll get more hobby supplies... brushes, brush cleaner, etc... my most used brushes are about shot lol.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Allopex #2 Finished!!!)
Post by: magenb on May 29, 2019, 05:00:26 PM
my most used brushes are about shot lol.

Keep hold of those used brushes, they come in handy for basing, dry brushing, etc.

I'll probably be taking a break until Contrast comes out. That's for painting though

(https://i.imgur.com/dGLVeSw.jpg) ;)



Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Allopex #2 Finished!!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on May 29, 2019, 05:09:45 PM
Well you got me there :P ;)!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Allopex #2 Finished!!!)
Post by: Dread on May 29, 2019, 07:07:01 PM
Mwahahaha! That's great. Old brushes are great for sure. I've got many that go thru it all from painting, dry brush, putting glue on bases to being a paint stir. Everything in between if I missed anything. Hahaha! Finished my laugh, no black bases.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Archers, to the King!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on June 2, 2019, 12:47:08 PM
More stuff on the assembly table!

(http://i.imgur.com/XygdnYa.jpg) (https://imgur.com/XygdnYa)
(http://i.imgur.com/wZO0fK5.jpg) (https://imgur.com/wZO0fK5)
(http://i.imgur.com/jfdi7vQ.jpg) (https://imgur.com/jfdi7vQ)
(http://i.imgur.com/Oaja0XH.jpg) (https://imgur.com/Oaja0XH)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Allopex #2 Finished!!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on June 8, 2019, 09:10:08 PM
Desk Prep!
(http://i.imgur.com/HiCP1dz.jpg) (https://imgur.com/HiCP1dz)

So, I've ordered some of the new Air Paints, mainly the new metallic that are available now. I also ordered some of the Clear Paints... Eidolon Purple, Calth Blue, Angron Red. I hear they go over opaque, but change the tint of the color beneath to something different. I think it'll go good over a metallic color, but if anyone has any advice, let me know!

So, the store that I have a $100 credit with after trading in my Namarti and some other stuff... has had a delay in their pre-order to Monday. I'm going to try to order the entire Contrast range plus some new base paints and layers too. We'll see how that goes.

On another note, I need some help. So, my airbrush, a Badger Vega 1500, cannot attach to the air hose that I bought because the airbrush connector is slightly too big and I think perhaps the wrong thread. The 1/8 connection on the airbrush screws into the compressor without issue. But I cannot for the life of me figure out what kind of connector I need to attach the airbrush to the hose.

I believe I found what I'm looking for! Disregard this scribbled out message!

If anyone can lend any advice, I'd appreciate it!

(http://i.imgur.com/eOkWPmy.jpg) (https://imgur.com/eOkWPmy)
(http://i.imgur.com/HercJOl.jpg) (https://imgur.com/HercJOl)

Daughters of Khaine Scheme:

I'm still trying to figure this one out... so hear me out! I'm thinking about pallid skin tone, royal purple / sunburst yellow clothes and alternating the two colors between the main hair color and the streaks that will go on there.

Purple: Shyish Purple Contrast -> Kakaphoni Purple or Xerus Purple
Yellow: Iyanden Yellow Contrast -> Flash Gitz Yellow or Yriel Yellow -> Sigismund Yellow

What do you guys think?

Sylvaneth:

So, I'm thinking I want to do an Autumn themed Sylvaneth force for my collection. I actually think that the Gnarlroot Clan is perfect for this! Richly warm wood for the main body and emerald wood for the darker bark. Hair will be an emerald color and the flesh will be fair and light.

I also got a load of stuff from Green Stuff World to do some bases that are Mid-Spring-Transitioning-into-Autumn.

What do you guys think?


What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Desk Prep & Questions!)
Post by: Dread on June 8, 2019, 11:00:33 PM
Nice desk!

Nice air brush!

I like your DoK idea but I would test paint one first. The yellow is kinda throwing me off but seeing it may change my mind. Just sounds, well, bright.

Definitely agree with autumn theme. Oranges and browns, golden yellows, just sounds groovy.

Can't wait to see!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Desk Prep & Questions!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on June 8, 2019, 11:32:50 PM
Thanks, Dread! :)

Yeah, I'll definitely have to test the scheme out. I think for the yellow to work, I might need a deep and lush shade of purple like Shyish purple. I was thinking about Magos Purple layered with Kakaphoni purple, but we'll see.

I guess a dark grey / matte black would work in place of the yellow too if I used a brighter purple like Magos Purple!

I might try to test out that blue / crimson scheme too.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Desk Prep & Questions!)
Post by: magenb on June 10, 2019, 05:56:52 PM
The yellow on the DoK doesn't sound right, its not a colour I would mix with their very dark lore. Dark colours for the cloth and leather against a pale skin will pop. I spend  fari amount of time on this site when I'm trying to think up colur schemes.https://www.sessions.edu/color-calculator/ (https://www.sessions.edu/color-calculator/)

The Sylvaneth scheme sounds good, looking forward to seeing how they turn out :).




Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Base Prep!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on June 10, 2019, 06:04:55 PM
Thanks for the advice guys! How about matte black / dark grey and a pallid shade of lavender for the hair? That should be quite some murderous colors :)

(http://i.imgur.com/um3LuKo.jpg) (https://imgur.com/um3LuKo)
(http://i.imgur.com/JkRRhtD.jpg) (https://imgur.com/JkRRhtD)
(http://i.imgur.com/NIqElCo.jpg) (https://imgur.com/NIqElCo)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Desk Prep & Questions!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on June 14, 2019, 08:48:07 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/umg1a9P.jpg) (https://imgur.com/umg1a9P)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Desk Prep & Questions!)
Post by: Dread on June 15, 2019, 01:27:07 PM
Look at all the wonderful play pretties! You're gonna have lots of fun with all that. I have night vault, still haven't got to play it. The models are great, each chain horde rasp has its own personality more so then the box sets for AoS.

Now you need to crank 'em out.  8)
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (Desk Prep & Questions!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on June 15, 2019, 01:42:18 PM
Thanks, Dread! I actually fired up the airbrush for the first time today! Waiting on four models to dry, then I'll post the result! Had to fiddle with PSI settings so that the primer wasn't coming out liquid. Fixed that though. Also took a minute to figure out I need to keep the compressor on for auto refill of air. Also found out that my airbrush can blow straight air too if there's excess primer on the model.

So, mixed results, I think? I had to kick it up to 50-60 psi for the spray to go on somewhat normal... but the consistency still seemed a little liquid and not completely spray. I applied Vallejo Mecha Primer White directly to the airbrush... no thinner. Would that have made any difference?

The coats are on there, but it's not as clean as I'd like. I know you don't have to have a completely opaque coat with primer though. Still... I feel like I can get better results with time.

Any advice?

EDIT: Touched up with a heavy drybrush of ulthuan grey.

(http://i.imgur.com/5A7OLSG.jpg) (https://imgur.com/5A7OLSG)
(http://i.imgur.com/vlO7JsT.jpg) (https://imgur.com/vlO7JsT)
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(http://i.imgur.com/Sin83L5.jpg) (https://imgur.com/Sin83L5)
(http://i.imgur.com/E3k4Vkx.jpg) (https://imgur.com/E3k4Vkx)
(http://i.imgur.com/ruepIiI.jpg) (https://imgur.com/ruepIiI)
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Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (First Airbrushed Primed Test Models!!!!)
Post by: Dread on June 15, 2019, 07:27:31 PM
For the primer, and paints, thinning is pretty much a rule. Your psi should be 25-35. Water based primers and paints usually a 50/50 and use distilled water or alcohol or a mix of both, alcohol helps stop tip clogging as well as reduce dry time. Other paints such as enamels, while good too, I would not suggest for this hobby. Model cars, boats and the like yes, but water base is better for what we're doing here. I haven't used any air brush paints but according to some of our friends on here there are some good ones. As for primer, I use rustoleum 2x flat black primer or armory white primer spray cans, I've found thru the years works great. The pots of primer, I've never had real good luck with. Most of what I do is translated from painting cars and murals, if I could use those on models I would but if I did, I'd have to be sure of what I'm doing, no cleaning those off plastic. Simple green will get the water based paints of pretty good without hurting the plastic.

Wow, I got long winded there. I hope this helps, just remember if water based it needs to drip from a stir stick like water, if not will clog and go on real heavy blurring some of the detail.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (First Airbrushed Primed Test Models!!!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on June 15, 2019, 07:38:08 PM
Thanks for the information, Dread! Vallejo Mecha Primer is acrylic  :)So thinning is something that I knew I should do, but in this case, I wasn't certain if I was supposed to do it. I thought the primer was liquidy because it was too thin already, but I see now it is the opposite and it's too thick. I already have what I need to thin my paints for the airbrush, so I'll be doing that next time definitely!

Good learning experience!

I'll fire up the airbrush tomorrow for another round and see if I'm more successful

EDIT: Aaannd, I broke a piece of the airbrush dissembling it. Turns out I dissembled a piece that I should not have, the trigger. Will be sending back to Badger for repair... good thing they have a lifetime labor warranty!
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (First Airbrushed Primed Test Models!!!!)
Post by: Dread on June 15, 2019, 09:59:42 PM
Sounds good. Remember dropping psi will help keep the paint more smooth. Higher psi can cause a lot of over spray which can cause a roughness/texture you may not want.

Keep 'em coming. I'm working on some sisters models, put my DoK on hold for a bit as well as my night goblins and a few others I was working on.
Title: Re: Myen'Tal's Conclave! (First Airbrushed Primed Test Models!!!!)
Post by: Myen'Tal on June 16, 2019, 02:36:15 AM
All of this was achieved tonight with the new contrast paints and ulthuan grey... let me know what you think of this sorcery ;D! Also, would you guys choose to highlight any of these models further?

Base isn't finished on the Tree Revenant, still a WIP!

(http://i.imgur.com/VTLxKkw.jpg) (https://imgur.com/VTLxKkw)
(http://i.imgur.com/qXjM8h4.jpg) (https://imgur.com/qXjM8h4)
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(http://i.imgur.com/azerst4.jpg) (https://imgur.com/azerst4)
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(http://i.imgur.com/rteRNQF.jpg) (https://imgur.com/rteRNQF)
(http://i.imgur.com/unwBc7R.jpg) (https://imgur.com/unwBc7R)
(http://i.imgur.com/enYlxCQ.jpg) (https://imgur.com/enYlxCQ)
(http://i.imgur.com/YXQFs0o.jpg) (https://imgur.com/YXQFs0o)
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Title: Re: Conclaves of the Asur
Post by: magenb on June 16, 2019, 07:34:25 PM
very vibrant, is the white done with the new white contrast paint as well? The paint looks very grey to me in real life.
Title: Re: Conclaves of the Asur
Post by: Myen'Tal on June 16, 2019, 07:46:49 PM
Thanks, Mage! I didn't use the white contrast paint actually, I think that one's called Apothecary White? I used the Gryph-Charger Grey instead, since I wanted a more cool grey rather a bright white.

Next weekend, I'm going to start highlighting these test models and see how that goes. Hopefully I'll be able to send my airbrush in for repair sometime this week and get it back next week.

I think my next contrast project, when I get my airbrush back, will be to see what I can do with the Leviadon  ;D.
Title: Re: Conclaves of the Asur
Post by: Blazinghand on June 16, 2019, 07:59:17 PM
Wow, those minis look great. I'll have to check out contrast paint.
Title: Re: Conclaves of the Asur
Post by: Myen'Tal on June 16, 2019, 08:26:46 PM
Wow, those minis look great. I'll have to check out contrast paint.

Thanks, Blazinghand, and please do try them out!

So, here is what I've found out about contrast paints so far!

1 - You do not necessarily need to use the "Grey Seer" or "Wraithbone" contrast paints for an undercoast / basecoat. I achieved all of this stuff with Vallejo Mecha Primer with Ulthuan Grey drybrushed on. I only used the ulthuan grey because I screwed up the undercoat a little.

2- Don't underestimate the contrast medium! Thinning down the contrast paints with this medium is what turns this paint from mediocre to all-stars, in my book! It really changes the nature of each contrast paint, makes them smoother while also making the colors softer and far less harsh, streaky, and splotchy!

3- About any contrast paint painted over various shades of gold gives each contrast paint an interesting metallic properties! The metallic on the Daughters of Khaine was done with Akhelian Green over a Valdor Gold air paint. Also the stone the witch aelf is jumping over is using Talassar Blue instead of the Akhelian Green. The staff handle on the Kurnoth's hunter's scythe is Warp Lightning over Valdor Gold as well.

4- Multiple thin coats... please do not use these paints in one thick coat. I've achieved each of these colors with 2-3 thinned down coats of each color.

5- Mixing in different color shade paints with some of the Contrast Flesh Paints, can produce some interesting flesh variation colors! The Witch Aelf's flesh was created from two drops of carroburg crimson into some gulliman flesh!

6- The models are definitely battle ready, but I feel that taking the time to highlight them will make them truly stand out. I haven't done any of that yet on these models, but I'm definitely going to!

That's all that I've discovered for now!

EDIT: Basing Test!

(http://i.imgur.com/MrLiqFF.jpg) (https://imgur.com/MrLiqFF)
(http://i.imgur.com/KWur8iB.jpg) (https://imgur.com/KWur8iB)
(http://i.imgur.com/7N3zAsF.jpg) (https://imgur.com/7N3zAsF)
(http://i.imgur.com/3prW8jy.jpg) (https://imgur.com/3prW8jy)