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Title: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Techpriest Lightningshard on January 1, 2006, 04:34:58 PM
'turns vox amplifier on Ultra'   ;D
   
    New IG troops are coming as i have heard from GW personnell today as i was looking for paints. In june they are releasing the Vostrolian imperial guard. They said they are a mix of Valhallan and Steel Legion. Great coats was all they could say they wore at the moment but it gives us a hint towards what they will look like. In the first week the Battle force will be released for 90$ and there will be plastics too.

    I have also heard of a plastic baneblade but they werent sure of that but theres a good chance.

Thats all i have to report now.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: IGBunker (-Hela - Finnail-) on January 1, 2006, 04:40:33 PM
WE HEAR YOU LOWD AND CLEAR :o.

Cool more allies to fight with but i can use to get a few of them baneblades in my army to   ;D.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Vespasian Swiper on January 1, 2006, 05:02:50 PM
http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=105050.0

This was convered a while ago ;)

Plastic baneblade - debunked in a recent FW interview (too lazy too look up link - go to the Rumour Mill and have a rummage.)

~Swipe.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Retired-Captain Alexander on January 1, 2006, 05:28:59 PM
Yup, old news. The release of the first Vostroyen platoon is planned for 17/04/2006 together with a new 'nid lictor and a new 'nid biovore. The Firstborn will be released in 01/05/2006.

A further summery of release dates:
08/05/2006: Vostroyen lascannon team and command squad
15/05/2006: Vostroyan mortar team and officers
22/05/2006: Vostroyan assault weapons

And that's all that my list says :P , beware these dates can still be shifted around and might as well be all released at the same time as the city of death codex (29/05/2006)

Greetz,
Alexander
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: legionnaire on January 1, 2006, 05:59:05 PM
Will there  be a new guard codex too?
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: 'Mark' on January 1, 2006, 06:05:09 PM
Will there  be a new guard codex too?

Nah, but we'll get codex: City of Death. City fight rules 'n stuff.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: legionnaire on January 1, 2006, 06:26:34 PM
Thanks for the help Mark.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Lt. Colonel Nightblade on January 1, 2006, 11:14:19 PM
Woah... I thought that these new guard are going to be metal.  Are you sure they are plastics?

Also, are there any pictures of them, or is it too early for that?
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Chosen Man on January 2, 2006, 12:17:26 AM
Based on the prices I have seen for these guys posted, I would say they are going to be an all metal army. At least a good portion of it will be metal. Untill I see pics of these new IG I will hold my judgement. A new year and a new regiment! Ah! All is well in the IG!  ;)
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: [dixon] on January 2, 2006, 11:19:45 AM
From what I've gathered, the basic troops will be plastic, while pretty much everything else will be metal.
As to what they look like...
Turn to page 33 of Codex: Imperial Guard.  I just noticed the resemblence of the Guardsmen there to the descriptions of the new Vostroyans, and I can't believe that I hadn't noticed that before...
Just a thought.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Stu35 on January 2, 2006, 11:55:14 AM
hmmm, i was under the impression they were going to be an all metal army, however if its true they'll have interchangable heads (steel legion/valhallan style), then it wouldn't surprise me if the squads were plastics.

Seeing as there is a battle force coming out, it is probable there will be quite a few plastics... thinking about it.


Can't wait anyway, i want my Army to have a bit of variety to it (currently have a platoon of Cadian models, a platoon of Catachan models and small platoon of Steel Legion models(only got the Command Squad and 2 Squads, rather than the 5 Squads the Catachan and Cadian platoons have available to them).


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Will there  be a new guard codex too?

No, and if there was then i'd personally go on a murderous rampage through the GW H.Q. in Nottingham, the Orks, Dark Eldar and Eldar are in desperate need of a new codex, i'm already irked by the extras the Guard will be getting in City of the Dead.


Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Retired-Captain Alexander on January 2, 2006, 01:03:59 PM
The plastic/metal ratio will be just like the catachans and cadians we have now. This means basic troopers and heavy weapon teams will be plastic and the more elite stuff like officers will be metal.

From what I've gathered, the basic troops will be plastic, while pretty much everything else will be metal.
As to what they look like...
Turn to page 33 of Codex: Imperial Guard.  I just noticed the resemblence of the Guardsmen there to the descriptions of the new Vostroyans, and I can't believe that I hadn't noticed that before...
Just a thought.

lol, well these guys certainly match the discription (combo of steel legion and valhallan), kinda cool to be honest, men with greatcoats and gasmasks.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Skankin_Catachan on January 2, 2006, 02:16:19 PM
right on! im erxcited for some new guard models. hopefully they will have plastics for the main troops.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Ghaz on January 2, 2006, 02:21:19 PM
From what I've gathered, the basic troops will be plastic...

Nope.  The Vostroyan will be all metal.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Lt. Colonel Nightblade on January 2, 2006, 02:45:30 PM
Hmnm... it seems like nobody's certain about whether the troops are plastic or metal.  We should wait until somebody has official GW confirmation on this.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Sputnik on January 2, 2006, 03:11:26 PM
Hmnm... it seems like nobody's certain about whether the troops are plastic or metal.  We should wait until somebody has official GW confirmation on this.

Why? It's already been said on Portent Warseer that the models are metal. I think this is solid information.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Chosen Man on January 2, 2006, 03:34:51 PM
Turn to page 33 of Codex: Imperial Guard.  I just noticed the resemblence of the Guardsmen there to the descriptions of the new Vostroyans, and I can't believe that I hadn't noticed that before...
Just a thought.

Yes interesting thought on this! I see that a lot of them have cyber enhancements. Maybe this we come up in their doctrines. One of the troopers in that pic seems too have a Cadian pattern lasgun.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: chaos0xomega on January 2, 2006, 03:39:28 PM
Grrr... I got all excited about the plastic baneblade... looks like I'll make one out of plasticard then :D
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Lt. Colonel Nightblade on January 2, 2006, 03:42:58 PM
I guess they are metal then.  That makes sense if Alexander's release dates are correct, because if they were plastic they would have a heavy weapons box like the Catachans and Cadians, rather than having seperate lascannon and mortar releases.

Ah well, I can still dream of plastic Valhallans/Steel Legion...
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Vespasian Swiper on January 2, 2006, 04:01:35 PM
But Oink - who I trust from his rumours in the past - said that they would be plastic - and other sources I have heard (the majority say plastic.)

I believe they will be plastic from this - but to be fair only time will tell.

~Swipe.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: imperial_american on January 2, 2006, 08:07:52 PM
>:(

Metal!! Everyone else got plastic. Why cant the guard? I love steel leigon, but stopped collecting them because they were metal
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Killgore on January 2, 2006, 08:30:57 PM
this really has split the rumour world, so many people saying plastic.. and so many others saying metal...  Which is right? we find out in a few months time.


Personaly I'm joining the metal crowd as beleaving in greatcoat plastic guard is just asking for disapointment
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Lt. Colonel Nightblade on January 2, 2006, 10:55:03 PM
That's true... if we all believe they are metal and they do turn out to be metal, then we get what we expected.  If they turn out to be plastic, then we'll all be very excited indeed.  But if we believe they are plastic and they are metal, it will be a huge let-down.

So I'm sticking with the metal camp on this one.  It just makes more sense to me, especially with the way they're supposedly releasing heavy weapons.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Agamemnon-2.0 on January 3, 2006, 02:00:21 AM
An upcoming-releases-for-retailers list I saw on either Warseer or Dakka quoted the price of the Vostroyan (however you bloody spell it, there are at least two dozen versions out there) platoon box at 90 dollars. That sounds like metal to me, and IIRC is around the price the old Praetorian box sold for, back in the day. So I have my money down for a 25-man box, a minimum-sized platoon.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Retired-Captain Alexander on January 3, 2006, 03:47:48 AM
That's true... if we all believe they are metal and they do turn out to be metal, then we get what we expected.  If they turn out to be plastic, then we'll all be very excited indeed.  But if we believe they are plastic and they are metal, it will be a huge let-down.

So I'm sticking with the metal camp on this one.  It just makes more sense to me, especially with the way they're supposedly releasing heavy weapons.

Lol, sad, but true :P . If they indeed all have greatcoats and stuff like that then I think they will indeed be metal as producing these kind of guys in plastic is (I think) very hard. Still it is a big disappointment. GW shouuld realize that armes that contain lots of plastic sell 10X better than armies that contain lots of metal (how often have you seen an army made completly out of steel legion models?). This will also mean that i'ts gonna be quite expensive to make a 1500 pts army with them :-\ . *begins praying* Pleeeeeeeeease let it be plastic :'(.

Greetz,
Alexander
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Agamemnon-2.0 on January 3, 2006, 06:01:15 AM
GW shouuld realize that armes that contain lots of plastic sell 10X better than armies that contain lots of metal (how often have you seen an army made completly out of steel legion models?).

They do. Seeing what sells is what GW is extremely good at. Notice the vast droves of Marine releases out there. They also see the insane costs for making steel moulds for plastic kits, not something they'd do for a limited-attractiveness item (there are two ranges of plastic figures for IG already, demand for a third one is just not as big as say, for plastic scouts or a new Vindicator). Besides, I've got a sneaking suspicion the Vostronians will be a limited-time deal, kinda like the Exorcist.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Vespasian Swiper on January 3, 2006, 06:13:40 AM
I am worried  - for the second time they will be metal...

If so - a Praetorian's style release could be imminent - also the lack of frankly any images is worrying.

I just found the new DA images as the release dates edge closer the speculation can only get worse - and DA's are after the Vostroyians - or whatever they are called.

~Swipe.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Chosen Man on January 3, 2006, 07:10:02 AM
If so - a Praetorian's style release could be imminent - also the lack of frankly any images is worrying.

I'm not surprised that it could be a Praetorian style limited release. The fact that they are possibly selling whole platoons in a box set is unusual for a metal release. Also this isn't a straight IG codex release, as it's a City of Death connection, and so far all the other stuff coming out seems to be of a special type. I guess it's time to start saving up and preparing for the coming army.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Agamemnon-2.0 on January 3, 2006, 07:25:21 AM
We just received images of the new demon prince and the Eldar rangers, who are also CoD releases. I assume the new Guard will be coming in the following months. Personally, I would much rather have taken just about anything else than yet another batch of foot troops. Like new Ratlings, new Ogryns, new Commissars or maybe a 40k-scale Ordinatus Golgotha?

Okay, maybe one of those was aiming a bit high, but still...
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Chosen Man on January 3, 2006, 01:00:33 PM
I've also read that there is a possible new IG Tank coming out with the new troops. Anyone know anything about this?
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: [dixon] on January 3, 2006, 01:03:24 PM
I've also read that there is a possible new IG Tank coming out with the new troops. Anyone know anything about this?

According to oink, that is the case.  There was a Rumour Mill thread about it a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Techpriest Lightningshard on January 3, 2006, 01:25:39 PM
Sorry it took so long for a reply but the staff at the Seattle bunker (which is coincedentially in Bellevue) say alot of plastic models.

And i dont read rumors, for from that comes hope, and then we all should know that Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment.

And its Vostrollian dangit!
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: CDT104th on January 3, 2006, 01:32:35 PM
With what my guy at my GamesWorkshop store told me, and he was trying to be hush hush about it,  is that the new guard were going to be a little bit of plastic and a little bit of metal.   This leads me to believe that they will be like the Cadians, where the basic troopers will be plastice and the officers and other special troopers will be metal.   That what hen told me and I trust this guy.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Ghaz on January 3, 2006, 02:22:19 PM
The Vostroyan were premiered at the Sabbat Crusade weekend at UKGW.  Those in attendance say they are metal miniatures.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Valhalla114 on January 3, 2006, 03:34:32 PM
Someone saw'd them and didnt snap a foto? Que pasa aqui gente? Por favor. Que manera de joderme el dia.

Sorry when I get angry I revert to my native tongue.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Andro Ist Keine Schwedischen on January 3, 2006, 04:07:25 PM
Hopefully multi part metals.  I dislike the Steel Legion models because they are so damn hard to convert.  They better release the full range as well for once - it's annoying when they don't make every weapon type.  It's GW's fault there's been a huge rise in Plasmagun/Lascannon combos - because that's pretty much all Steel Legion players can use.

Having removable weapons and heads would be most excellent - no more hours of sawing carefully into the models to remove weapons and hands and then green stuffing the huge gaps left over...

~Andromidius
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Sputnik on January 3, 2006, 04:10:09 PM
It's GW's fault there's been a huge rise in Plasmagun/Lascannon combos - because that's pretty much all Steel Legion players can use.

Yeah, because people are dying to use the flamer/Autocannon combo...  ::)
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Andro Ist Keine Schwedischen on January 3, 2006, 05:44:04 PM
No, but it would make sense that Ork fighters like the Steel Legion would have said weapons in their arsenal.  Think about it - how often do Imperial Guard need masses of Plasmaguns and Lascannons when facing Orks?

Plasmaguns and Lascannons have their place, but I don't think they are ment to be in every single squad (or even any Infantry Squads in my opinion - they are supposed to be expensive weapons!).

~Andromidius
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Sputnik on January 3, 2006, 06:24:09 PM
No, but it would make sense that Ork fighters like the Steel Legion would have said weapons in their arsenal.  Think about it - how often do Imperial Guard need masses of Plasmaguns and Lascannons when facing Orks?

Plasma guns and lascannons never hurt, though I agree you don't need to max out on 'em against Orks. In any case, I also think every weapon option should be available, regardless of their merits on the battlefield. (Ok maybe not mortars)  :P

Plasmaguns and Lascannons have their place, but I don't think they are ment to be in every single squad (or even any Infantry Squads in my opinion - they are supposed to be expensive weapons!).

Not Lascannons anyway. For 2 points more though, you can get a plasma gun instead of a grenade launcher...sign me up.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Andro Ist Keine Schwedischen on January 3, 2006, 11:01:01 PM
I prefer the mobility you get from Grenade Launchers, and the fact they don't blow up in your face.

Anyway, I'm still wishing very much that they release the full range this time.  Would make it a first for metal Imperial Guard...

~Andromidius
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: wper34 on January 3, 2006, 11:24:33 PM
From what I've gathered, the basic troops will be plastic, while pretty much everything else will be metal.
As to what they look like...
Turn to page 33 of Codex: Imperial Guard.  I just noticed the resemblence of the Guardsmen there to the descriptions of the new Vostroyans, and I can't believe that I hadn't noticed that before...
Just a thought.

Now that I looked at the pic... That could be them! (Maybe)

Whether they will be made in Metal OR Plastics. By now, I put no hope in GW. If they are out as Plastics, then HOORAY! If Metals, then why does it have to be Metals! (Follow by some ranting) What we need is some solid evidences, but I would just wait to see...
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Cpl. Lee on January 4, 2006, 07:34:35 AM
GamesWorkshop store - That what he told me and I trust this guy.

lmfao - as a rule mate - NEVER trust GW staff - they'll have you by the balls when they get your trust!!!! believe in it baby. well its like that in the UK - its all gone pressure sales up here in the northwest - pillocks with no idea of vets or noobs and theyre pushing glue and spray on everyone. i seen a kid get pushed into buying a 40k starter paint set the other day though he's a fantasy player?  >:(

anyway... after that rant...

if these rumours are true (and i think im hoping more than most!) then hello new veterans - they'll also make belting commissars with a bit of choppy sandy work.

damn i hate metal!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Pvt. Morvegil Forodhir on January 4, 2006, 02:38:21 PM
Yeah I love metals...but for IMP guard its overkill...
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Techpriest Lightningshard on January 7, 2006, 06:04:24 PM
Maybe thats true.... the gw staff are conspiring against us... hmm
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: FrOzEn jAcKaL on January 8, 2006, 12:44:21 AM
I was a petition to GW that they be plastics!!!

More ability to customize and overall I think plastics on average look better. Plus its easier to work with I'd think and in a way... cheaper--> metal is xpensive.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: RomanusJorg on January 9, 2006, 11:03:22 AM
I think we'll find that basic Vostroyan Guardsmen are going to be plastic while the Firstborn, officers, spec weapons and the like will be metal.  Heavy weapons I'd think would be all plastic to.  The talk of a new tank though was debunked in the rumor mill, though it did start to sound as though the Ragnarok was going to be released (Chimera hull with a boxy turret, bit like a KV-1 Russian tank from WWII) before it was scraped.

Cheers, Romanus

Edit: Just looking over the release schedule and see that you can get Quote: Imperial Guard Vostroyan Troopers $12.00, so that now makes me think they'll all be metal.
Title: Re: New Imperial Guard Minuatures Coming!!!!!
Post by: Ghaz on January 9, 2006, 11:09:54 AM
From Alliance Games:

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GAW 47-52 Warhammer 40K: Imperial Guard Vostroyan Troopers $12.00

You don't have a $12 blister of troopers if they're plastic.  Once again, the Vostroyans are metal.