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Custodian Guard next!
« on: January 5, 2018, 06:09:47 PM »
I've seen a leak of the new custodian guard plastic terminators. Looks like they'll be announced tomorrow. I am terribly excited!
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Re: Custodian Guard next!
« Reply #1 on: January 5, 2018, 06:23:30 PM »
That's a terrific surprise. I thought that there was an outside chance of the Custodes getting an expanded roster at some stage, but I figured it would be a bit of kit here and there, maybe an upgrade sprue and a couple of characters. To get whole new units is helluva cool.
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« Reply #2 on: January 5, 2018, 09:13:09 PM »
Plastic...

Custodian...

TERMINATORS?!?!?!?!

Damn it, man!  I need to change my pants now!

Edit:  Having seen the leaked image... yeah... I'm good for, like, a week now lol
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Re: Custodian Guard next!
« Reply #3 on: January 6, 2018, 08:02:31 AM »
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Oh yes. Plastic jetbikes. This is the best news ever. And here I was thinking I finished my custodes army.
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« Reply #4 on: January 6, 2018, 01:46:07 PM »
Oh yes. Plastic jetbikes. This is the best news ever. And here I was thinking I finished my custodes army.

I think you may be out of luck there:

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Finally, if you’ve already got a sizeable collection of  Forge World Legio Custodes, rules are on their way for you to use your favourite units in Warhammer 40,000, in addition to the huge range of new plastic kits.

Sounds to me that there will be new plastic kits available (Such as the Terminators), while existing FW units just get 40k rules.

It doesn't explicitly say they won't get plastic replacements though.
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« Reply #5 on: January 6, 2018, 09:43:34 PM »
I don't know about that.  In previous previews, they have never done a video showcasing FW units.  So I think it is safe to say that what we saw is the units that will be available from the codex.

Edit:  I was on the 40k Facebook page, and they have confirmed there that the bikes are plastic.  So definitely not forgeworld.

After a few days of lead-up, we now have our answer to what GW's big announcement for is Codex: Adeptus Custodes.

Honestly I'm a little let-down by this. Yay, more Space Marines...?  I mean, the models look nice, and I may grab some as a secondary detachment for another Imperial army. But I was really hoping they'd at least try to get the rest of the Imperial/Xenos/Chaos books out before adding yet more new factions. How about Adeptus Sororitas ever?  Or how about Orks and Tau?

What does everyone else think? Excited for the Gold-is-the-New-Black space marines?
Adeptus Custodes are not Space Marines.  Yeah, they are Imperium, but their play style is so vastly different from any of the Space Marine chapters.  And with the units they are adding, it's hard to say how their play style will change.  I mean, right now they most closely resemble Deathwing, and they aren't even close to how they play.  The only current simularities are that the Custodes have Contemptor Dreadnoughts and Land Raiders.

But this is not a release of a new faction.  This is expanding a current faction to actually make it viable.  The custodes were given a codex / minidex at the end of 7th edition, which made them a legitimate faction.  As it stands right now, there is absolutely no way to play a pure Custodes army simply because they have no HQ choices.

As someone who regularly fields a majority-custodes army, I am definitely excited about this!  I am mainly excited to see the inevitable point drops!
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Re: Custodian Guard next!
« Reply #6 on: January 7, 2018, 05:47:45 AM »
I don't know about that.  In previous previews, they have never done a video showcasing FW units.  So I think it is safe to say that what we saw is the units that will be available from the codex.

Edit:  I was on the 40k Facebook page, and they have confirmed there that the bikes are plastic.  So definitely not forgeworld.

Great news GML! It's brilliant that you get to flesh out your army a little more affordably now!

I expect things like the Jetbikes to receive a bit of attention from a lot of other faction players too, as I'm sure skilled people will be able to convert them to other factions bikers for a far more unique army.
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Re: Custodian Guard next!
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2018, 11:37:55 AM »
First teaser is out. Looks freaking great so far. That character's relic is so good!

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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2018, 12:13:25 PM »
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New teaser for the adeptus custodes.

Troops are looking fairly solid. Taking the vexillia and shield captains out of the squads as characters is also interesting.

Curious to see the bikes.
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Re: Custodian Guard next!
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2018, 12:00:05 PM »
Here's your jet bikes and what not.
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2018, 02:42:06 PM »
Landraiders mitigating all those armies with their fliers and -1 hit modifiers will be pretty great.
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2018, 03:17:01 PM »
Landraiders mitigating all those armies with their fliers and -1 hit modifiers will be pretty great.

Yeah, it's kinda been a weird meta recently where a lot of armies were either very shooty gunlines with auras, or armies with -1 to be hit modifiers which could fight those gunlines, or Dark Reaper Spam (because of Inescapable Accuracy). It's nice to see Land Raiders get something too, since they seem a little underused.
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2018, 04:57:54 PM »
How about those bikes as a counter charge unit?
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2018, 06:41:51 PM »
How about those bikes as a counter charge unit?

Planes are going to get beslubbered up by those bikes!
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2018, 08:32:47 PM »
The Custodes people (also known as Gold Marines) look like they have their own Shining Spears, and I'm betting they'll be cheaper and harder hitting.

Now they've gone and given away one of our best units!!

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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2018, 08:38:39 PM »
The Custodes people (also known as Gold Marines) look like they have their own Shining Spears, and I'm betting they'll be cheaper and harder hitting.

Now they've gone and given away one of our best units!!


Space marines don't have shinning spears. The Custodian Guard have jetbikes. They are not the same.

It's been in the fluff for a long time, and they've had jetbike Horus heresy kits for years.

Also, considering a standard custodian guard is around 60pts, I highly doubt their jetbikes will be cheaper than the eldar ones. Unlesa shinning spears are 150pts each.


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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2018, 12:46:28 AM »
The Custodes people (also known as Gold Marines) look like they have their own Shining Spears, and I'm betting they'll be cheaper and harder hitting.

Now they've gone and given away one of our best units!!


Space marines don't have shinning spears. The Custodian Guard have jetbikes. They are not the same.
This.

The biggest erroneous complaint I have seen online about the release of Codex: Adeptus Custodes was that it was "more Space Marines."

The Custodes are not Space Marines.  The only way they are even close to Space Marines is that they are elite Imperial units of genetically engineered bad asses.  In the fluff, they are not Space Marines; and in terms of game performance, they are not Space Marines.  My favourite quote regarding Custodes (which may or may not be a real quote, but works none-the-less) is that "Custodes are to Astartes, as Astartes are to mortal men."

As for them being cheaper or hitting harder than Shining Spears?  As long as the base stats for the Custodes don't change, they will hit harder simply because they have more attacks.  But cheaper?  Not a chance.  The basic foot Custodes out of the Index costs 52pts with his Guardian Spear, or 54pts with sword and board.  You honestly think that a model that will, most likely, have T6 and W4 will be cheaper than a Shining Spear?

It's ok to be intimidated by the new release, but the sky isn't falling yet.  This is going to be an army that will have a very difficult time cracking 20 models at 2000pts.  Just keep that in mind.
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Re: Custodian Guard next!
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2018, 05:24:03 AM »
Topic merged to Custodian Guard thread, as this seems like a better place to discuss Custodian Guard units.
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2018, 12:18:24 PM »
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Re: Custodian Guard next!
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2018, 05:09:02 PM »
Are these guys the 8th Ed Grey Knights (now that Grey Knights are Silver marines)?

OK, the minimum Shining Spear Squad with Exarch and Star LAnce is under 100pts, but the base stat line of an Eldar Shining Spear Jetbike is (shall we call it) PEQ.

These new Marines (not a Marine), have jetbikes, move almost as fast (what's an inch or two between friends), hit harder, more resilient, and they're Marines (still not Marines).

Release them as an army, fine, but do it AFTER the T'au, Orks, and/or Necrons. The last thing we need are more Marines (still not a Marines).

 


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