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IMPORTANT UPDATE
Venue Change
When:
Saturday 24th August 2013
Where:
Vanguard Wargaming
188 Hotwells Road
Hotwells
Bristol
BS8 4RP
What:
4 games of 6th Edition Warhammer 40,000
@1750 points
There will be space for 24 gamers.
Tickets will cost £14.
-Payment Link- (http://www.survey.bris.ac.uk/exppsy/40konline)
Registered
1. Killing Time
2. Hymirl
3. -V-
4. Benis
5. Koval
6. Lorizael
7. Oliver009
8. CaptainJay (Vanguard)
9. 666_mutley_666
10. Alessandro A. (Vanguard)
11. Koval
12. Marcus Wooldridge
13. Craig Wooldridge
14. James Lumsden
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I've updated the front page with a link to this thread. Hopefully, this may help to pull in even more interest.
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I have intention to attend!
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I'll be there this year, not sure if I'll be rocking my trademark yellow eldar or my current pet project orks?
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Consider me at least interested. I cannot promise that I'll have the Iron Hands even remotely ready, though.
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I'll be there for sure.
I can walk there this year- no chance of being late due to Hymen's driving ;)
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Certainly interested
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Hi all, pretty sure me, Bedders Arq and probably about 5 other people from the shop will be down.
I'll ask around and spread the word as always!
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I'll be there for sure.
I can walk there this year- no chance of being late due to Hymen's driving ;)
Right, if anyone playing against Lor'eal disputes a rule with him they can call me over and I'll rule against him no matter what the rule actually is.
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I'll take your word for that.
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And if the rule dispute involves flying Space Marines with laser eyes?
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Sign me up, I'd like to attend.
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sign me up please. jason tovey, bristol vanguard.
thanks
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I'm in if it's possible to get there
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I'm in if it's possible to get there
There's a spot saved for you in my car mate
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Updated
Slight price hike (sorry) and payment link now up.
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Paid!
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I'm in if it's possible to get there
There's a spot saved for you in my car mate
Swish - we'll discuss tomorrow as well as iirc Psi (non forum mate to those of you keeping score) expressed an interest in coming this year to
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I'll probably sort it out tomorrow, I'm going to be really busy tonight. :-\
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ill be there, one of my mates might be coming aswell
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Try not to eat any more hats, Mutley. :P
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I'm in. If I can sort an army out of course...
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I'm certainly interested. Despite being pretty much retired from 40konline, it would be nice to see some of you again. I'll have a chat with Tarrin and a the rest of Team Splan and see if we can get a posse along.
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I loved my few days in Bristol last year. I'd love to make it out, if only it was not so far away.
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Good to see a lot of interest already.
It would be good to get a full complement of 40konliners.
Obviously the only way to reserve your ticket is to actually buy one.
So far the only place this is being advertised is here. I intend to leave it that way for the next month to give the forum the maximum opportunity to get tickets. After that it'll be opened up to the local Bristol community to give them second dibs.
With 40 places on offer I'm hopeful we can get 30+ from the forum.
So far only Benis has actually bought a ticket...
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Yes, that's because I forgot completely. I'll do it when I know how much money I have :P
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Due to paypal charges the ticket price will be £14.
We think this is still a very reasonable price for a 4 game tournament so take any complaints to Hymirl....[/size]
My care face is standing by.
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I'm certainly interested. Despite being pretty much retired from 40konline, it would be nice to see some of you again. I'll have a chat with Tarrin and a the rest of Team Splan and see if we can get a posse along.
You know it make sense to come. There are several excellent curry houses within striking distance of the venue...
Due to paypal charges the ticket price will be £14.
We think this is still a very reasonable price for a 4 game tournament so take any complaints to Hymirl....[/size]
My care face is standing by.
That's what I'm talking about!
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Sign me up. I'll buy the ticket next week when I'm not busy bossing people around on stage.
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Holiday has been confirmed by work, so I'm definitely coming :D
Will buy a ticket on payday.
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Try not to eat any more hats, Mutley. :P
but there so tasty...
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Any chance of an update, seeing as I've paid?
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Any chance of an update, seeing as I've paid?
Then your place is assured. :)
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Let me know when you've got the tourney pack in order and then I can fire it off to everyone on last years entrant list - I can link to this thread there too to give everyone a heads up that we are at it again!
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I've got one more week of marking MSci projects and prepping fieldwork.
Then I'll finish the rules pack.
Then I'll write a new army list for my Eldar. ;D
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Paaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiii iddddd!!!
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Paid!! ;D
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Currently only the following have paid and therefor guaranteed themselves a ticket.
As promised the places are now going to be opened up for non-forum members, so if you want a place you'd better get cracking!
-V-
Benis
Koval
Lorizael
Oliver009
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Cool, I know a few people who would likely be up for it.
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I've massed out the tournament pack to everyone from last years purchase list along with a link here and direct to the payment page... I have somehow managed to spell Killing_Times e-mail wrong - so if you have any questions for him they'll need to be directed here (which is probably best anyway).
There were a few delivery failures so I'll be on those trying to track down correct contacts (I may just have mis-copied the address).
This year, Hymirl and Alex have decided to add in army ratings - which should be pretty interesting. Its a good way to filter out gamers so that you will be playing against like minded individuals for the first few rounds at least....
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Just had a read through the pack. The ADR rules are... interesting...
I'm sure they definitely won't be used to push a person's personal prejudice against a Codex.. ;)
Might be useful to submit a few lists early to get an idea of what scores highly. One man's theme or army full of cool looking models is another man's power gamey army of cheesey death..!
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Ooh, rules pack. Now I can go book my hotel, as this is essentially an extra level of confirmation that yes, this is a thing that is happening.
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So people have a rules pack?! Does that mean someone needs my e-mail address?
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Just had a read through the pack. The ADR rules are... interesting...
I'm sure they definitely won't be used to push a person's personal prejudice against a Codex.. ;)
I can assure you that this won't be used in any such prejudicial manner.
It's just a new format on comp scoring that has enough flexibility to deal with the fluffy lists that can get dinged by a more rigid comp scoring system, and also means that you can turn up with a nasty list and still win... as long as you back yourself to beat all the other filth lists in the tournament too without getting any easy rides in the early rounds.
Obviously what we're looking to avoid here are triple heldrake lists, leafblowers with 3 full supporting vendetta squadrons, or anyone claiming Eldrad and 5 naked dire avengers is fluffy as an allied detachment for Grey Knights.
Each list will be looked at objectively by myself, Hymirl and a neutral third party whose identity will remain anonymous (at least until they've been recruited).
I assure you that no-one is going to get punished for using the wrong codex.
We just want the definition of friendly to be "everyone has a good time" rather than "I'm bringing filth, but I promise to shake your hand and smile cheerfully while I'm crushing you."
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And my question?
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I assure you that no-one is going to get punished for using the wrong codex.
We just want the definition of friendly to be "everyone has a good time" rather than "I'm bringing filth, but I promise to shake your hand and smile cheerfully while I'm crushing you."
Hehe, understandable :D
Though, whereas you've said lists will be looked at objectively, the pack says subjectively...
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Though, whereas you've said lists will be looked at objectively, the pack says subjectively...
typo? ::)
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And my question?
Fire over a pm and I'll be happy to email you the pack. Same goes to anyone else too...
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I'm objective! Seriously though, its not designed to penalise everyone it's there to help people play the kind of event they want to play, a game where you steamroller your opponent as you have a hardcore net list against something soft and fluffier than Agnes' unicorn isn't that much fun for either party. Hopefully we can reduce this in the random draw rounds.
Players looking for more competitive games get that kind of game, players looking to play themed armies against other themed armies can get that kind of game, we get a very mixed collection of players coming to this event so I think it's fair to cater for all.
In other news, the venue called me to say the hall we're using is closed for refubishment. So theyve given us access to their huge main school hall at no extra cost. It's real nice, gothic vaulted ceiling, a stage and everything, they hire this hall out for weddings!
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Sounds like quite the upgrade! :)
How is the sign up going, are there still many vacant slots?
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And my question?
Fire over a pm and I'll be happy to email you the pack. Same goes to anyone else too...
Don't worry. Killing time has sorted me out. Thanks anyway.
In other news, the venue called me to say the hall we're using is closed for refubishment. So theyve given us access to their huge main school hall at no extra cost. It's real nice, gothic vaulted ceiling, a stage and everything, they hire this hall out for weddings!
Oooh. An upgrade, nice.
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I'm objective!
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Heh, no I understand and approve fully of the intention. I just think it's hard to be objective about and to know where the lines are drawn. I could write up a 10 page history of every major engagement of my Necron aerial assault legion including individual call-signs, kill tallies & pilot traits caused by faulty programming. But to someone else that's just Nightscythe flyer spam and should be hit with a huge composition bat.
Also the phrase "known power codex" is concerning...
The Great hall at Bristol Grammar is pretty damn cool. :D
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I'm objective! Seriously though, its not designed to penalise everyone it's there to help people play the kind of event they want to play, a game where you steamroller your opponent as you have a hardcore net list against something soft and fluffier than Agnes' unicorn isn't that much fun for either party. Hopefully we can reduce this in the random draw rounds.
Players looking for more competitive games get that kind of game, players looking to play themed armies against other themed armies can get that kind of game, we get a very mixed collection of players coming to this event so I think it's fair to cater for all.
In other news, the venue called me to say the hall we're using is closed for refubishment. So theyve given us access to their huge main school hall at no extra cost. It's real nice, gothic vaulted ceiling, a stage and everything, they hire this hall out for weddings!
I think the pack looks great, I'm planning on bringing a reasonably competitive but by no means out and out WAAC list and I do wonder how well it will cope with that as I'm not sure how many people will come with armies balanced in a similar fashion to mine, but the system seems likely to achieve that, and I think it's perfect for the 40KO tournament which is very definitely a mixed beast where this is concerned. I've never known anyone to come before who brought a more fluffy list and came up against a hard-core comp list to have enjoyed themselves as much as they could have and I think this is a great idea which more tournaments could do with using because I think it will make a far more substantive contribution to people's enjoyment than trying to "fix" the game with huge errata documents you have to comply with when list-writing.
Thumbs up here, really looking forward to the event, will pay this evening.
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I'm objective!
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Heh, no I understand and approve fully of the intention. I just think it's hard to be objective about and to know where the lines are drawn. I could write up a 10 page history of every major engagement of my Necron aerial assault legion including individual call-signs, kill tallies & pilot traits caused by faulty programming. But to someone else that's just Nightscythe flyer spam and should be hit with a huge composition bat.
That's ok, I don't read fanfic anyhow! ;D
At the end of the day it won't actually make that big a deal, it's not like anyone gets penalty points or anything it's just 'less random' matchups to kick off with. I basically made up this comp system in the pub so I'm as interested as everyone else if it works or not.
I have no doubt some stuff will slip through, and someone will declare they're hard done by, no comp system is perfect and new codexes make it tricky to spot latest uber lists anyhow. But what it will prevent is things we've seen previously where people turn up with triple dreadknight lists and totally pound casual players in their first two games of the day.
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The ADR rules were written with tongue firmly in cheek.
Try not to get over-worried about the wording. All we're really going to do is sit down and try our best to ensure everyone gets an appropriate match for their first couple of games; tough vs tough and fluff vs fluff.
Sign up people! Time's a ticking!
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I'm a big fan of the principle!
Although I will undoubtedly get the short end of the stick with the army I hope to be able to bring along... I don't want to share any more than that at this point in time - One of the big troubles I have is that I can play a WAAC army and am still pretty much bad enough to lose! (its odd though, cos my Tau which were traditionally definately not a WAAC army has a great winning record!)
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It'll all be cool on the day I'm sure :D
Have we opened up the event to non-forum goers yet?
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Have we opened up the event to non-forum goers yet?
Yes
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paid
you guna man up and fight me this year onik? :P
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That's my hotel booked. Looking forward to August. :)
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my name seems to have fell off the list of attendees.
i dont have a pay pal account and will pay alex or allun
when either get to club or get an attending vanguard member
to purchase a ticket for me. which would you prefer?
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my name seems to have fell off the list of attendees.
I tidied up the list to include only those people who have purchased a ticket.
Since we've been upgraded to the great hall at the School it looks like we're going to have ample space to fit anyone who wants to come, so there won't be a limit on the number of tickets we can sell (within reason).
HOWEVER
We do need to pay the fees for the school hire soon so we'd very much appreciate it if those who are intending to come but haven't yet paid would do so as quickly as possible (ie MOST OF YOU).
buti dont have a pay pal account and will pay alex or allun
when either get to club or get an attending vanguard member
to purchase a ticket for me. which would you prefer?
I'll try to make it down to the Vanguard this Thursday so can take cash then.
Otherwise we'd like money asap so if you can find a friendly paypal account that would be best.
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I can't help but notice that I'm down twice on the attendance list. I also apparently have a +1. Can I just point out that I've not learned how to clone myself ^^;;
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I can't help but notice that I'm down twice on the attendance list. I also apparently have a +1. Can I just point out that I've not learned how to clone myself ^^;;
I think your name must have turned up twice in the payment link.
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He could play two games at once.
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is there really only 10 people going this year? Or has the list not been updated
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The paypal link is in my GFs name and she has been away, so I haven't updated recently.
That said, take-up has been very slow this year, so yes, I don't expect more than 14-15 sign-ups at most.
We're trying to drum up some extra support from the locals, so hopefully we might hit 20, which would be nice because that's the number we need to break even.
If there are still those who wish to come but haven't paid, DO SO NOW.
These tournaments aren't cheap to run, and given the high level of interest to start I'm quite disappointed with the the lack of support to date.
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By "locals" do you mean Vanguard?
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By "locals" do you mean Vanguard?
Well, lots of Bristolians don't belong to the Vanguard, and they're welcome too.... ;)
But mostly. Yes.
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Aye, I've been letting some local clubs know too- those that checked out were frustrated by the slowness of the forum to load.
It's quickened up recently so I'll try again.
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The rules pack mentions Challenges and Grudge Matches -- at what point do I put in a request for one?
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You can put one in now if you like. :)
It'll be factored into the draw.
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Okay then, I'd like to challenge Benis! Otherwise there's no guarantee that I'll get to play against him!
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You, sir, will face the full wrath of my 1-hour jetlag!
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Next silly question: To whom do we email our rosters? There's no email address in the tournament pack.
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Oops
alexanderjteague(at)gmail.com
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Huzzah! Email sent.
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First army list is in.
First challenge is issued (and accepted).
Looks like we might have a tournament on our hands.
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I meant to reply to this earlier, but sometimes life (and my poor organisation) gets in the way.
Sadly, I can't make it along this year, as the event clashes with a pre-booked holiday. I would have loved to get back, having had a great time last year :-\
Happy gaming, everyone!
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Gah, we have to email by Wednesday yeah? I still haven't decided what I'm taking yet!
14 guys paid? That's not so bad- can have a decent tournie out of that :D
Is that enough to break even then?
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There are last minute plans afoot to change to a smaller venue so we should be ok for cash.
Updates will be posted in good time.
Yes, Wednesday.
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I don't suppose anyone else has put their name down?
(I still appear twice, by the way, so we might have an odd number.)
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There are a few more locals who may/may not be coming.
We might conceivably hit 20, probably more like 16/17.
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If you need someone to chip in and help you break even on the hall price, I'd be happy to spot you the cost of, erm, missing participants' tickets if that would help.
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Thanks Koval.
Hopefully it won't come to that. We have contingency plans.
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Well, changing the venue this close to the event may present problems if people still show up at the old venue. That'll lead to a lot of unhappy players. :(
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IMPORTANT UPDATE
The venue for this year's tournament has changed.
We will now be at:
Vanguard Wargaming
188 Hotwells Road,
Hotwells,
Bristol
BS8 4RP
This is about a 5 minute drive from the previous venue so hopefully it won't mess with anyone's travel plans too much at all.
Also it's a dedicated wargaming facility, so we'll be in good hands throughout the day.
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Excellent, thanks for the update.
Parking is a bit iffy there, but should be a great place to play.
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Now all you need to do is spam people's email accounts until they get the message :P
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Didn't realise Vanguard was big enough for a tournie.
Good though having dedicated facilities rather than a school hall.
I will have to walk an extra 15 minutes though >:(
lol.
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The new venue is quite small, with a maximum of 24 players.
But it's a far more appropriate space for the number we have, and a far more appropriate price too.
There are quite a few places to park, they're just a bit hidden.
I'll post a map.
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sorry guys, i'm pulling out
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Sorry to hear that, Mutley. See you at the next one?
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Yep. Sorry to hear that.
Hope it's nothing serious.
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nah nothing serious. going to reading fest on Friday and working on Sunday so it not really viable to go to the tournament as its 7 hours of driving. plus I forgot that we had to put in army lists before the event so it seems kind of pointless going to a tournament where I'm on minus points before I even start!
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Quick question re. the new venue, have any of the timings changed at all?
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Nope. All the timings remain the same. :)
It's just 5 minutes away from the other venue so hopefully it won't mess people's plans too much at all.
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Brilliant. See you there.
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Parking is quite good near the venue but can be difficult to spot.
Just opposite is an Army Surplus shop called Marcross Stores. You can park in behind here (entrance to the right) as there are some allocated spots for Fitfirm Gym, which belongs to the same owner as the Venue.
There's also quite a lot of parking at the end of Hotwells road, behind and around the Rose of Denmark pub.
The streets to look for are Charles Place, Little Caroline Place and Oldfield Place.
We're looking forward to seeing you all tomorrow.
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Don't forget the free car park on Brunel Way just across Junction Lock Bridge. (If you can get there early enough!)
See you all tomorrow.
Is the curry still on?
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Just got back in. Had an amazing time yesterday, props to Dizz for organising an awesome day of awesome games :)
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Indeed much fun was had yesterday.
A pleasure to play on fantastic boards against great people.
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Glad you enjoyed. :)
Don't forget the tireless work of Hymirl and Poppy behind the scenes.
I'll try to get the full final table up some time tomorrow.
I've been entertaining Benis, so thought it might be nice not to stick my nose into a computer all day.
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I had an enjoyable day too, 4 very enjoyable games, the first time I've played against Valar and Benis! and despite killing a tau super battlesuit in hand to hand I think I'll stick with my plan to shelve the sisters of battle for a few years. Been missing my biker marines too much!
Again our apologies for the spreadsheet glitch that seems to have muddled things at the end of the day, I hope no-one felt their day was adversely effected by it.
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A good day indeed and nice to see and play Killing Time and Hymirl for the first time even though Killing Times serpents destroed all my Boyz with constant rolling of 6's for his serpent shields, and Hymirl's Burny Burny sisters of doom with flamers everywhere!!!
Great tables, great games and great club. Shame its a 5 hour round trip for me or I'd be there much more often!!
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The computer glitch was a pain.
Still not sure what happened, but next time we'll keep a paper trail to make sure no-one gets hard done by.
Poppy was quite upset, but as long as people got to push their toys around in a happy manner I fail to see that any major harm was done.
Thanks for the great day. :)
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Did it get fixed in the end? :-X
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Poppy was quite upset, but as long as people got to push their toys around in a happy manner I fail to see that any major harm was done.
She shouldn't be upset. It wasn't her fault. Plus we all saw how many points we had compared to those around us.
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While I wasn't involved, I'm curious as to the top teir contestants, and more importantly their Armies and Strategies!
I put in a request for anyone that finished in the top 25% to post their lists, with a quick summary of how the list plays and if there's any "super secret tech" involved with playing it. :)
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Hey GBT, I came 3rd overall and took this Necron list:
Nemesor Zahndrekh
Royal Court
2x Necron Lord, Resurrection Orb
Triarch Stalker
Triarch Stalker
Triarch Stalker
10 Necron Immortals
Tesla carbines
10 Necron Immortals
Tesla carbines
+Night Scythe
10 Necron Immortals
Tesla carbines
+Night Scythe
Annihilation Barge
Gauss cannons
Annihilation Barge
Gauss cannons
Annihilation Barge
Gauss cannons
Total - 1745
I tend to use this list aggressively with the Annihilation Barges and Triarch Stalkers moving forward in pairs as fast as they can. In a perfect world, the Stalkers take out tanks and then their paired Barge fries the troops that get out. With no tanks then the Stalkers target infantry units so that the Immortals can gain twin-linked.
They also screen Zahndrekh and his unit of Immortals, letting him grab objectives.
The other two Immortal units are joined by Court Lords which come in from reserve in the Nightscythes. Again, these are pretty aggressive and will power forward 24" from the board edge- Immortals get out and move forward to set up a beach head for the advancing units. If possible these guys come in on a flank so that the 'Scythes can get another turn on the board at least before leaving the battlefield.
Generally a wall of AV13 is pretty scary and pretty difficult to get through- this lets me move my scoring units around behind the wall and grab objectives and offer supporting fire.
The sheer amount of shots this army can put out with all the tesla is pretty damn scary too! :D
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Thanks, Lorizael!
I don't want to clutter this thread with questions about the list, do you mind if I cut and paste it over to the Necron board, and ask a couple questions? I can only think of one Necron player at my GW, and I never have a chance to play her.
Yes, the rare army of my store is played by the even more rare, "Lady Gamer". ;)
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I still envy you for having a store that lets you play games.
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Thanks, Lorizael!
I don't want to clutter this thread with questions about the list, do you mind if I cut and paste it over to the Necron board, and ask a couple questions?
Yup, carry on.
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I still envy you for having a store that lets you play games.
For many years, I couldn't! For a long time, my GW had requirements for models to be this number of colours, some kind of basing... it just wound up with people playing poorly painted models, no detail work, with uncoloured sand glued to bases. They wised up, and let people play with bare plastic if they wanted. Model sales went up, and those models started getting painted slowly, but well. It lost much of the elitist atmosphere where "new players" couldn't play there, because their armies weren't up to snuff.
I'm lucky to have the store I do. I hope you find a club, or that a store opens up.
How'd you do? Where's your list? ;)
@Lorizael: Thanks! List and questions are posted!
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Why don't all of you post your lists in the appropriate boards and comment on what worked and what didn't. Easier than writing a battle report. ;)
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Why don't all of you post your lists in the appropriate boards and comment on what worked and what didn't. Easier than writing a battle report. ;)
Booo! Battle Reports! I want Battle Reports! >:(
(though the discussions of what worked/what didn't would also be nice)
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Be nice for either basically. Koval and Lori have stepped up. :)
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Man, I need to finish my tournament write up and post it too...
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Well, I'm so annoyed that meatspace kind of spiralled out of control before being able to secure a place to come. I'd even taken time out to whoop-ass -V- a few times with varying test lists but ultimately starting up my own business and taking care of initial clients had to come first.
It seems like the dice gods are against me going to play with the Vanguard!
I want to see some pictures please!!!