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Main => 40K Rules and Questions => Topic started by: Andrew "Ender" Wiggin on July 8, 2003, 01:46:12 AM
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ok, ive been hereing these rumors about not having to roll to hit with ordinance weapons, asthe explosion is so big its hard to miss and what not. i read the entry in the BBB, but i still doubt that you dont have to roll. plz help! it would help me alot!!
Deaths Face
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All I can say is read the entry in the BBB again. It's pretty specific about leaving out any statement that says you must roll to hit. Just follow the steps in the BBB and you'll be using ordnance correctly.
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ok thanx, yeah i didnt really read it, ym friend read it to me over the fone, dont wry, i got my own BBB.
Deaths Face
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dammit, i went and looked in the BBB but i cant find it!! what page is it on??
Deaths Face
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btw if you wanted to know
it's spelled "ordnance"
no -"I"
i see that a lot though
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hmm that still doesnt help me.
Deaths Face
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Page 84 in your BBB.
See esp. "Rolling to Hit".
It really doesn't get much clearer in this game, if you have the BBB.
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ok thanx warhoon! your the bestest :P
Deaths Face
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There are exceptions, like the IG, they roll to hit, and if they miss, it scatters, except the guess weapons. If they don't have to roll to hit, then it just scatters.
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There are exceptions, like the IG, they roll to hit, and if they miss, it scatters, except the guess weapons. If they don't have to roll to hit, then it just scatters.
No.... Ordnance weapons in all armies work the same. The rules for Ordnance in the BBB were designed to be Guard friendly, as when it was printed, they were the only ones with any direct fire Ordnance, IIRC.
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What other army has direct fire ordnance?
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Chaos SM
Orks (kinda)
almost every army's titans
maybe more.....
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You could always call the Eldar eldritch storm direct fire ordnance. You don't get much more direct than that, considering it doesn't even scatter. But still, it hasn't got the same punch as the other ordnances...
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And it does not follow the rules for ordnance. It is also a physic power, and does not require LOS (at least not if you are strict in your interpretation of the descirption). It merely uses the large template also used for ordnance.
But then again, so are deepstriking Hawks, and they are not ordnance, are they? :)
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No, kawks aren't ordnance, neither is the tau rail gun, or the tyranid spore mines, or eldritch storm, they just mearly use the template. Orks, maybe, okay, I'll give you that one, but what chaos thing? Oh, and titans and war machines don't count.
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but what chaos thing?
Iron Warriors can take Baslisks and Demolishers, and all Chaos have access to the Defiler, which basicly has a Battle Cannon on it.
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Okay, thanks. I haven't bought the new codex yet (and don't think I will cause I really have no interest in them)
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Okay, thanks. I haven't boughten the new codex yet (and don't think I will cause I really have no interest in them)
"Boughten" is not a word, the correct word to use is "bought" or "purchased"
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There are times when it's appropriate to tell someone off, and this would be one of those times. Why did you have to point out one of my mistakes Samurai when there are countless others making far worse mistakes on these boards then me? On this post alone, Deaths Face said "bestest" which also isn't a word and should have been substituted with "best", Warhoon said "much clearer" when proper english says that he sould have used "much more clear". This was your first post on the whole topic and of course, like the rest of your posts on this site, it contained nothing of any importance.
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The Chaos Defiler has a Battle Cannon. This is, naturally, a big, mean, nasty Ordnance weapon every Guardsman knows AAAAAALLLLL about.
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Okay, thanks. I haven't bought the new codex yet (and don't think I will cause I really have no interest in them)
I'd advise against that. The chaos codex has a LOT of wargear and special options and stuff. It would be good to familiarize yourself with all their special rules and equipment and how they can and can't be used so you don't get screwed. I have a lot of people try to call me a cheater when they find out my Mark of Slaanesh reduces their initiative, or that my daemonettes have rending claws [daemonic talons], or that I have a psychic power that means I can't be shot at [Siren].
-Spellbound
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I'd advise against that. The chaos codex has a LOT of wargear and special options and stuff. It would be good to familiarize yourself with all their special rules and equipment and how they can and can't be used so you don't get screwed. I have a lot of people try to call me a cheater when they find out my Mark of Slaanesh reduces their initiative, or that my daemonettes have rending claws [daemonic talons], or that I have a psychic power that means I can't be shot at [Siren].
-Spellbound
I agree. Chaos players have a tendancy to cheat, often times because the codex is a bit confusing. Some of the most common is putting to much wargear on a Deamon Prince, and putting "Feel no Pain" khorne bezerkers. Which by the way, I got into an argument with a khorne player last night, but I did not bring my codex(and he did not bring his either) so I will be proving him wrong next week.
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I would never play a game where there was an army without a codex on the field. I may not buy the codex, but as I'm playing, I check over the opponent's army with their codex. I've flipped through it a bunch of times.
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Archon Briol-Dinne: ok, now why would you have to do that? a simple PM would be more preferable, as the public does not have to look at it, and well to me, i think your jsut makeing yourself look like a fool, there is no point telling ppl that they spelled sumthing wrong and if you have a grudge agaisnt samurai, i suggest you take it sumwhere else, preferably out of my thread! now i know you could fire right back at me and say that im being hypocritical about this, seeing as im telling you off. one other point, by having samurai tell us the correct word, he is helping us better our vocabulary, to go around this forum and correcting everyone that made a mistake would be quite tiring and just plain stupid. oh and by making this post public, it helps deter other ppl from folllowing in your footsteps, as well your post was jsut plain spam, anda direct attack at samurai. personally i like to spell things differently on forums such as this as it adds character, its kinda like a personalization of the what ever language you speak, in my case, english.
Deaths Face
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I was simply stating that if he were to go and do it to me, which by the way was the first incident which was totally unprovoked, I was saying that he should do it to everyone and not pick me out. If you bothered to check his post, you would have noticed that he didn't provide any opinion to the post and it was his only message on the topic.