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Offline imperialnutcase

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fast attack or heavy weapons?
« on: October 21, 2005, 11:42:21 AM »
Id like to know what is better to buy (points wise) all 3 fast attack or extra hvy weapons squads because i have enough points to buy either ,btw the oponent im going to face plays khornate chaos.
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Re: fast attack or heavy weapons?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2005, 11:53:36 AM »
Can you specify on what you mean by heavy weapons please?
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2005, 12:24:01 PM »

Well it would really depend on the type of list your running and what is already in your list. With that said I can say that if you are referring to heavy weapons platoons and their squads I would suggest a tank or a bassie. If you are referring to squad level heavy weapons then I would deffiantly have heavy weapons in your squads before buying fast attack. If you are referring to command squad heavy weapon squads it gets a little murkier and would need to know the type of army and your list to say for certain.

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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2005, 01:44:20 PM »
I mean squad hvy weapons like hvy bolter etc...
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Re: fast attack or heavy weapons?
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2005, 02:01:41 PM »
I mean squad hvy weapons like hvy bolter etc...

I would take hvy weapons in you infantry squads before I took fast attack vehicles.

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Re: fast attack or heavy weapons?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2005, 02:03:52 PM »
if u mean h.weapon SQUADS as in the heavy support i would go fast attack perferable the Hell Hounds ( my personal fav tank )

if u mean h.weapons in your line squads... then go with the h.weapons.

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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2005, 02:40:52 PM »
It depends what you already have in your list.  If you don't have HW in your infantry squads, go ahead and put them in.


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Re: fast attack or heavy weapons?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2005, 05:28:34 PM »
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Re: fast attack or heavy weapons?
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2005, 04:49:05 PM »
I will probably say the same thing as Lieutenant Nightblade...

It depends on your army composition as a whole & certain things may prove to effective than the other for gamewise. The other factor that may influence OR you can take this in account for what to buy is your fluffs for that regiment. (If you have any)

Also, you could ask yourself about the style of tactics that you enjoy playing most. (Go with your feeling) Even if you lose with that approach by following your personal liking for certain style of tactics, it is still possible to develop & learn more about them.

It would be helpful if you can specify your point about what are those units in the hvy support & fast attack choices? We can help you much more specifically if you ask something a bit more specifc & say about your own preference, because at the moment, the topic is too broad...

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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2005, 03:24:43 PM »
well my army list goes something like this:

full command squad with one missile launcher squad in support
2 units of stormtroops
1 ogryn squad
2 platoons of normal troops
1 leman russ demolisher

 my preference is shooty but i want to know what would be more effective? my backround is a celtic race with strong ties to the Adeptus mechanicus.
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2005, 03:34:51 PM »
well thats a hell of a twist...might want to give your squads h weapons..mainly heavy bolters then, and give your command squads retinues cc weapons(expensive due to needing a veteran upgrade for them all, but it goes with the celtic theme). As for fast attack..i dont have any fast attack on any of my lists...mainly cuase i prefer numbers over veriety. That might also go with you celtic theme. They had fast cavalry yes, but they were mostly infantry. I say skip fast attack.
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Re: fast attack or heavy weapons?
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2005, 03:38:27 PM »
I'd be inclined to give the infantry squads heavy weapons before taking any fast attack choices. Taking the maximum number of heavies and specials in infantry squads has served me very well so far. Against some enemies you double your ability to kill them by increasing the squad's cost by a mere 33% or so.

Your background might influence this however. Just how Celtic and "in your face" would these guys be, when bearing their background in mind? Are they complete berserkers or more reasonably minded?

Now that I've though of berserkers, that would be an awesome unit to use as Ogryn substitutes. A bunch of hairy, animal pelt wearing, unwashed frothing madmen with great weapons on Ogryn sized bases! :D I'm nearly tempted to start a Celtic army over this idea. If you have the chance, check out the abhuman doctrine for feral Ogryns and see how you like it. where to find it

But I digress. Because of their ties with the Adeptus Mechanicus, a considerable number of heavy weapons certainly wouldn't be out of the question, depending on how (un)civilised your Celts are.

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Re: fast attack or heavy weapons?
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2005, 05:12:50 AM »
Well it really depends how P***ed off they are! lol  ;)
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Re: fast attack or heavy weapons?
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2005, 06:49:12 AM »
Fast Attack or Heavy Weapons?

Why not Fast Attack and Heavy Weapons?

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