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Offline mob16151

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Re: Doombreed = Hitler?
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2009, 01:30:02 PM »
Quote from: Scorn on September 11, 2009, 07:27:30 PM
He became Hitler, In Space! as seen in the Ciaphas Cain novel, Cain's Last Stand.

I brought up the fact that Hitler in space was ridiculous in another thread and got slapped down hard. LOL But on topic I figured DoomBreed was Stalin. Weird I dunno. But he was possibly one of the most evil men in human history.(Putting hitler to shame).
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Re: Doombreed = Hitler?
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2009, 02:09:50 PM »
Again, though, did Stalin really enjoy getting his hands dirty?

Personally, I think that whoever Doombreed really is, he hasn't been born yet, but may well be born in a few millennia or so, give or take a couple of centuries either way.
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Re: Doombreed = Hitler?
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2009, 02:52:45 PM »
Quote from: Koval, the Overfiend on September 19, 2009, 02:09:50 PM
Again, though, did Stalin really enjoy getting his hands dirty?

Personally, I think that whoever Doombreed really is, he hasn't been born yet, but may well be born in a few millennia or so, give or take a couple of centuries either way.

Actually yea from what i can tell from his black hands day he was responsible for a few deaths. But yea I can understand your point on doombreed. But  the fun of fluff is in the speculation.
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Re: Doombreed = Hitler?
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2009, 03:51:46 PM »
Quote from: Koval, the Overfiend on September 19, 2009, 02:09:50 PM
Again, though, did Stalin really enjoy getting his hands dirty?

Personally, I think that whoever Doombreed really is, he hasn't been born yet, but may well be born in a few millennia or so, give or take a couple of centuries either way.

He was a brigand in the early days of the revolution, fighting for Lenin, I think. He certainly did fight himself.

But really Doombreed always struck me as a man without a plan, more similiar to the Joker in terms of nihilistic slaughter then for any calcualted reason.
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Re: Doombreed = Hitler?
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2009, 05:43:31 PM »
Stalin was 'hands on', at least in the early days.  He organised bank robberies to fund the Bolshevik coffers, and lead the defence of Tsargrad during the Russian Civil War (which was why it was renamed Stalingrad....by himself  ::)).

Also, does it seem like the Joker would be a follower of Nurgle?  You know, a desire to destroy everything with a smile on your face?   ;)
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Re: Doombreed = Hitler?
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2009, 05:46:09 PM »
Quote from: Land Rover Tangi on September 19, 2009, 05:43:31 PM
Stalin was 'hands on', at least in the early days.  He organised bank robberies to fund the Bolshevik coffers, and lead the defence of Tsargrad during the Russian Civil War (which was why it was renamed Stalingrad....by himself  ::)).

Also, does it seem like the Joker would be a follower of Nurgle?  You know, a desire to destroy everything with a smile on your face?   ;)

I always thought the Joker was Slaanesh(ish) myself. Everything he does is to excess.
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Re: Doombreed = Hitler?
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2009, 06:19:03 PM »
Save the thread jacking guys.  ;) Joker would be Chaos Undivided if at all.
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Re: Doombreed = Hitler?
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2009, 07:32:40 PM »
Joker is what the Chaos Gods worship ;)
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Re: Doombreed = Hitler?
« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2009, 08:18:33 AM »
Again, modern politicians (even if before they fought in a physical way) aren't the likes of a Khornate bir beastie.
Thinking about it, I've liked the idea that Vlad could be both the origin of Sanguinius (part of it) geneseed AND Doombreed. Didn't they fight each other in Terra? I might be confused but it would throw in a tragical twist...
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Re: Doombreed = Hitler?
« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2009, 09:23:53 AM »
Emperor:  Malcster!  What's up bro?  You look stressed.
Malcador:  My Lord!  I've just heard a very disturbing rumour!
Emperor:  Dude,  you need to learn to chillax.
Malcador:  My Lord, it is my understanding that you intend to combine genetic samples of Vladimir Teppes with your own to create one of the primarchs!
Emperor:  Yep.  The 9th Primarch.  What about it?
Malcador:  Vlad the Impaler?
Emperor:  That's right.  So?
Malcador:  Dracula?
Emperor:  Duh. 
Malcador:  The genes of the individual who later became Doombreed, the first Daemon Prince of Khorne?
Emperor:  Is there a problem?
Malcador:  Khorne - the Lord of Skulls.  The Blood God!
Emperor:  Ummmmm . . . yeah.  Are you going anywhere with this?
Malcador:  You seriously intend to use the genes of an individual who was so corrupted by a chaotic power as to become an actual Daemon Prince to create a being of similar power that you will then put in command of one of the greatest military forces the galaxy has ever known?
Emperor:  . . .
Malcador:  Don't you think that might be tempting fate?
Emperor:  . . .
Malcador:  . . .
Emperor:  I'm going to call him Sanguinius.
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Re: Doombreed = Hitler?
« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2009, 09:32:54 AM »
LOL!!

Anyway I don't thinl the big E is that stupid.
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Re: Doombreed = Hitler?
« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2009, 10:21:32 AM »
Quote from: DOGGED on September 22, 2009, 08:18:33 AM
Thinking about it, I've liked the idea that Vlad could be both the origin of Sanguinius (part of it) geneseed AND Doombreed. Didn't they fight each other in Terra? I might be confused but it would throw in a tragical twist...

Sanguinius has nothing to do with Vlad (more than the vampire angle) and he did not fight against Doombreed during the climax of the Heresy as far as we know. Personally, I think Vlad is far to minor to be a Daemon Prince, he's just a nasty ruler over a small country (or county may even be better) on the pages of history, his deeds wasn't especially extreme or numerous for the period, hell they weren't even original it's just that Bram Stoker decided to base Dracula on him.
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Re: Doombreed = Hitler?
« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2009, 11:11:34 AM »
Quote from: Underhand on September 22, 2009, 09:23:53 AM
Emperor:  Malcster!  What's up bro?  You look stressed.
Malcador:  My Lord!  I've just heard a very disturbing rumour!
Emperor:  Dude,  you need to learn to chillax.
Malcador:  My Lord, it is my understanding that you intend to combine genetic samples of Vladimir Teppes with your own to create one of the primarchs!
Emperor:  Yep.  The 9th Primarch.  What about it?
Malcador:  Vlad the Impaler?
Emperor:  That's right.  So?
Malcador:  Dracula?
Emperor:  Duh. 
Malcador:  The genes of the individual who later became Doombreed, the first Daemon Prince of Khorne?
Emperor:  Is there a problem?
Malcador:  Khorne - the Lord of Skulls.  The Blood God!
Emperor:  Ummmmm . . . yeah.  Are you going anywhere with this?
Malcador:  You seriously intend to use the genes of an individual who was so corrupted by a chaotic power as to become an actual Daemon Prince to create a being of similar power that you will then put in command of one of the greatest military forces the galaxy has ever known?
Emperor:  . . .
Malcador:  Don't you think that might be tempting fate?
Emperor:  . . .
Malcador:  . . .
Emperor:  I'm going to call him Sanguinius.

Thats one of the funniest things I've ever read on here. And literally lightened up my day ....thank you.( And i dont even care if it was fluff freindly or not. :P Sorry thats really all i had to add.
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Re: Doombreed = Hitler?
« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2009, 12:14:29 PM »
There are many conquerors that history has forgotten, if doombreed was meant to be hitler then surely he would have little tash on his top lip ;D
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Re: Doombreed = Hitler?
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2009, 12:36:02 PM »
You guys do know that to some Vald is seen as a hero instead of a villian.
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Re: Doombreed = Hitler?
« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2009, 12:58:37 PM »
Oh yes, In many's view he was a freedom fighter against the terrible Ottoman threat. However, it is impossible to refute the fact that he was completely and utterly ruthless. That is after all why he did so well against the Turks in the first place, and why he has become the root of the archetypical vampire.
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Re: Doombreed = Hitler?
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2009, 12:08:55 PM »
Well you know Doombreed IS a hero for a good lot!!!
It just depends on your point of view (or your LOS ;D)
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Re: Doombreed = Hitler?
« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2009, 06:00:49 PM »
Quote from: Dux Aurelius Elysius on September 18, 2009, 11:35:45 AM
As Dogged says, Hitler was hardly the sort of person that would get his hands dirty.

Well, no national leader in the 1940's was going to personally lead any charges, but Hitler did see quite a bit of action in WWI. He received the 2nd grade Iron Cross and the 1st grade Iron Cross, which was a fairly big deal. He was also wounded multiple times, shot in the thigh and burned with mustard gas, and received the Wound Badge. After the war he was also personally involved in the Beer Hall Putsch. So, while not quite a champion of Khorne, he had been personally involved in violence a number of times and did get his hands dirty.
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Re: Doombreed = Hitler?
« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2009, 06:17:36 PM »
Please do not resurrect month old threads. Let's allow this one to rest in peace, shall we?
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