Very interesting discussion about Lychguards versus Praetorians. I had started favouring Lychguards but now wonder if the extra movement that Praetorians have doesn't cause me to reverse my decision. But I have question about how the rules would work for a Praetorian with Voidblades and Particle Casters in close combat with a vehicle or model with an armour value.
So I have charged the tank or dreadnought and I get three attacks for charging and having two close combat weapons. So far so good, I hope.
So if I haven't lost any of my guys, I have 15 attacks and lets say I hit with 7 of them. I think what I then do, given that the void blade has Entropic Strike, is to roll 7 dice looking to throw 4 or more, lets say I throw 4 dice at 4+. So against a Dreadnought, I have just reduced its front armour to 8.
Is this the end of what I have achieved in close combat, or do I now get to roll 7 dice (because I got 7 hits) to resolve my armour pentration against a front armour of 8, in which case I might get 3 or 4 pentrating hits. It would take an awfully long time to reduce a vehicle down to an armour value of 0 on one of its faces, so I assume I must also get my normal penetration roll and take my chances on the damage table at some point. But does this happen during the same turn as the entropic effect and if it does, before or after the armour value has been reduced.
I have looked through the codex, and I don't think it is spelled out either way. If I have missed the definitive answer there or in any other GW communication, can you please point me in the right direction. I am sure you can all see the advantages of this logic in dealing with vehicles and dreadnoughts as they approach .... but am I hoping for too much ?
*** Sorry guys, I see now that this question has been addressed in the Rules Forum, but it appears that the community cannot agree on the answer. Probably better not to reopen that deabte again, but a definite answer would certainly influence my decision as to whether I might want to take Lychguard with WarScythes or Praetorians with Void Blades in an Elite Slot.