Topic: Corsair POC: Scions of the Void

[Zilverscale]

Do not forget the Void Dreamer.
Exchanging his powers for 2 that might actually be very good

And Hornets are now even better

And ofcourse Nightwings...gettin g flyer rules and can pretty much work vs infantry, low AV and high AV.
Phoenixes down right transport/infantry killers and other flyers (same for Nightwings)

[Arquarian]

I'm not entirely sure the Void Dreamer can exchange his powers as, has been pointed out in another thread, The Corsairs are not in the Eldar codex, the list stands alone.

Still  think the current Void Dreamer powers to be very useful as they are.

Ah yes! How could we forget Hornets! But I'm going to guess as a light tanks they will have maybe only 2 HPs and with their low AV values could be downed pretty quickly even by snap-shotting bolters. I think the longer ranged guns may replace the shorter ones. Pulse lasers at the ready!

Nightwings I thikn are the out and out flyer / vechicle killers. even nmore so now due to the flyer rules. Phoenixes are AI with the ability to down other fighters, which is how its all meant to be. I can not wait for the plastic versions of these....

 

[Zilverscale]

I'm not entirely sure the Void Dreamer can exchange his powers as, has been pointed out in another thread, The Corsairs are not in the Eldar codex, the list stands alone.

Still  think the current Void Dreamer powers to be very useful as they are.

Ah yes! How could we forget Hornets! But I'm going to guess as a light tanks they will have maybe only 2 HPs and with their low AV values could be downed pretty quickly even by snap-shotting bolters. I think the longer ranged guns may replace the shorter ones. Pulse lasers at the ready!

Nightwings I thikn are the out and out flyer / vechicle killers. even nmore so now due to the flyer rules. Phoenixes are AI with the ability to down other fighters, which is how its all meant to be. I can not wait for the plastic versions of these....

Thought I read something about psykers being able to exchange their power (not sure no BDB with me)

Do not forget that Hornets are now able to move, get cover save and still shoot

I kind of like the resin version...plastics will most likely be multiple pieces.
Though would be cool to have the multiple weapon options with the kit (the only plus side IMHO)

[Arquarian]

CWE farseers have been FAQ'd to allow them to exchange their powers, however we're still waiting for the Forgeworld FAQ's to see hopw these affect the Corsair list. So at the moment I'd say no.

Hornets, true! cool

...but the resign FW ones, although are beautiful, are so damn expensive!

[Zilverscale]

...but the resign FW ones, although are beautiful, are so damn expensive!

All the right reasons to buy them!
Peeps will go WOW!!
(At least if you paint them descently   )

[Arquarian]

And my wife will wonder why we're eating plain rice....

Seriously, I'll unlikely be buying anymore Craftworld stuff until the new codex comes out as all the stuff I want I think will get new plastic moulds, Jetbikes, seer council, Wraithguard and of course the two flyers.

[Zilverscale]

Dang!

Nightwing and Phoenix got a nerf from going from titan holofield to shrouded -.-

[Arquarian]

but they are now flyers meaning they can't be assaulted and only shot on a 6.


all in all our flyers are probably some of the best, remember we also have above average BS can fire ALL our weapons, most of the time and benefit from vector dancer...


now, if only they weren't so damn expensive!

[Zilverscale]

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/p/Psykers.pdf

Psyker FAQ is up

The wording of Withering Radiance....do we need to roll to hit or not?

[greenmtvince]

It's the same wording on the key point: "D6 hits" so I'd so no need to roll to hit.

[Zilverscale]

It's the same wording on the key point: "D6 hits" so I'd so no need to roll to hit.

Ok so lets go with that for now....d6 hits vs vehicles suddenly became really good

Average hits 3.5
Average glances or better 1.75.
Gets vehicles with 2 HP dead in 1 shooting phase

Combine this with a unit with 1 fusion gun and 1 Shuri Can

[greenmtvince]

That's why I like running them with the voidstorms with two fusion guns. 

[Zilverscale]

That's why I like running them with the voidstorms with two fusion guns. 

Neural Shredder also got a big boost with being AP1
Average result is 3.5 now on the pen table

[Arquarian]

It's the same wording on the key point: "D6 hits" so I'd so no need to roll to hit.

Ok so lets go with that for now....d6 hits vs vehicles suddenly became really good

Average hits 3.5
Average glances or better 1.75.
Gets vehicles with 2 HP dead in 1 shooting phase

Combine this with a unit with 1 fusion gun and 1 Shuri Can

Hate to burst your bubble but its D6 hits versus a unit. Against armour get one hit and roll one dice for pen.

[greenmtvince]

Question posted to Forgeworld.  I had always interpreted it like Zilverscale that it was D6 hits, and the sentence about the armour values was what to do about targets that didn't have a strength value, but I can see Arquarian's interpretation would also be correct. 

[Zilverscale]

It's the same wording on the key point: "D6 hits" so I'd so no need to roll to hit.

Ok so lets go with that for now....d6 hits vs vehicles suddenly became really good

Average hits 3.5
Average glances or better 1.75.
Gets vehicles with 2 HP dead in 1 shooting phase

Combine this with a unit with 1 fusion gun and 1 Shuri Can

Hate to burst your bubble but its D6 hits versus a unit. Against armour get one hit and roll one dice for pen.

Owww bummer.... (it does say clearly after the d6 that vs AV a single hit is scored)
Then the Neural Shredder is still the better option now!
Seeing as you could feasibly use is vs 2 vehicles with a little positioning.
Then WR is only good vs TEQ's.

[Arquarian]

please beliveve me, I wish it did work the other way but I don't think we'd get away with it.
Ever played dodgeball with huge lumps of chese? 

[greenmtvince]

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It inflicts a single hit against vehicles - we'll update the pdf asap. Having just rolled some dice, a 70pt Psyker inflicting D6 hits against a Land Raider, each taking a HP on a 4+ isn't quite what we had in mind...

My Reply:

Thanks for the quick reply. Yeah, the idea of D6 hits didn't seem so unbalanced under 5th edition rules. As you aptly pointed out, not quite as balanced under 6th.

Zilverscale.  Don't feel bad.  The PDF didn't have the part about one hit until this morning.

[Aurics Pride]

Well I have been lurking for a fair while but since I had my first battle with my Corsair list last night I figured I better post since my lurking on here got me a lot of the tactics I used!
I've got to say that I've been using Eldar armies for the best part of 10 years and this list has got to be one of my favourites, my battle last night against Salamanders (1500pt) was probably the biggest massacre I have ever inflicted on anyone in all my time playing 40k.
My list was as follows:

Void Dreamer- Void Sabre, Haywire Grenades, Jet Pack, Gyrinx

10x Voidstorm- 3 Fusions, Haywire Grenades

10x Corsairs- Jet Packs, 2 Missile Launchers

10x Corsairs- Jet Packs, 2 Missile Launchers

3x Wasps- Scatter Laser & Starcannon Combo

4x Jetbikes- Shuriken Cannon

2x Hornets- Pulse Lasers

8x Rangers

1x Warphunter


Out of all of that by the end of turn 4 (When he conceeded) I had lost two Jetbikes to an assault cannon from a Land Raider.
I've got to be honest the amount of high strength multishot weapons that this list lets you put out absolutely astounds me and that was what won me the game, I popped his transports early and pinned down the Marines who just got cut down by mass fire (Admittedly some of his rolling was pretty bad too!)
I'm going to do a couple more playtesting games (got one against Orks next week) but I think I'll be sticking with the Corsairs for a while! 

[Khorne25]

Well I have been lurking for a fair while but since I had my first battle with my Corsair list last night I figured I better post since my lurking on here got me a lot of the tactics I used!
I've got to say that I've been using Eldar armies for the best part of 10 years and this list has got to be one of my favourites, my battle last night against Salamanders (1500pt) was probably the biggest massacre I have ever inflicted on anyone in all my time playing 40k.

Welcome welcome! Welcome to the Void! (Yarr)

Would you mind posting that list on the Eldar Tactics and Strategies? Then we can have focussed discussion on just that and itll be easier to track.


Many of you will have noticed that I have been largely absent from 40k for 3-4 weeks. I am back, and I am determined to get Corsairs onto the 6th Ed playing field.

The new allies makes our "piratey" theme POC much more attractive. The message that we are not just about the IA11 Corsair list but all Corsair-themed armies, CWE and DE and combinations etc, needs to get out.

In case you guys havent seen, there are FAQs and 6th Ed documents for downloading on the FW website. Take a look

I will post some more observations later but I see now that IA11 was written with a slant towards 6th Ed.

Seize the skies, brothers.