Topic: Can the Green Tide be Stemmed?

[Errgin]

Is there any reason to believe that the universe will not be overrun by the Orks?

[Arcas]

I think there are reasons against an Ork victory. They are not organized good enough. Big successes are rather rare because they require a potent leader like Gazhkull Thraka. Additionally the most other races don't tolerate Orks in their neighborhood, they eliminate as fast as possible while the Orks do nothing unless they're on a waaaagh.
The Orks space vessels cannot compare to Eldar fleets, the CWE warships are faster and have a longer range. The result is a massacre.

jwu

[the_mighty_brain]

their codex is also waaaay unbalanced.

Orks can never be easily beaten.
and extremely rarely when used by a competant player

[JiMInY]

i disagree, only once have i drawn with an ork player an he was very experienced, 9 times outta 10 i beat orks. but mostly orks either have a spectacular win, or a sspectacular defeat

[high-avatar]

Well judgeing as most of their tech. works by their latent physic abillities when the C'tan succed in sealing off the warp the orks guns and transports will stop working so the other races will sit back and shoot them to death!!!

[Cloud runner (brother Ezekiel)]

Still, an orc army can look VERY impressive if fielded wih lots and lots of troops, as it should.

[Harlequin Solitaire]

I wanna collect Orks but I hate using Horde armies. Can't I just have a small Speed Freek army and still have a chance of winning?

[Scythe]

Yes it can,
Im an Ork player and the worse thing for an Ork army to up against is a SM army full of the plain old tactical marines, you kill some and more pop up again, thats why I usually end up losing to my mate, though by the end both armies are wittiled down to mere shreads.

[Warboss Ruzgob]

Oh yeah and bye the way High-avatar the orks do not recieve there psychic powers from the warp. It says in the codex on pg.48, 5th paragraph, and I quote:

"Similary, many captured Ork weapons and items of equipment should not work,and indeed do not work unless wielded by an Ork. I believe this is linked to the strong psychic aura surrounding all Orkoids and have developed the Anzion Theorem of Orkoid metamorphic Resonant Kinetics. I theorise that many Ork inventions work because the Orks themselves think that they should work. The strong telekinetic abilities of the Orks subconscious somehow ensure that the machinery or weaponry functions as desired."

End of quote.

Now note on the SUBCONSCIOUS part. If the warp was closed then so what, the Orks psychic abilities are as subconscious as you or I breathing or our heat beating. Thus for your little plan is foiled my enemy Necrons, MAY THE ORKS FOREVER FIGHT AND CONQUER!

[Imperial Sardaukar]

Ill raise my Choppa to that!

WAAAGGGHHHH!!

[sply]

and i'll raise my grot blasta

[liruisheng]

erm. if the warp were closed off, all psychic ability would cease, unconscious or not. to put it in nerdy context, to preserve the conservation of energy, the energy to make the weapons work has to come from somewhere, ie, from the warp if its psychically linked. if the warp were closed off, no energy, no worky. also, eldar would be pretty buggered too.

[Head Honcho Grubsnik]

Well .......damn I hate it when I'm showed up. Good point Liruisheng, didn't think of it like that. Thx for setting me straight. Now I know that the C'tan MUST be destroyed at all costs!!!

WAAAAAAGHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Insidious Heresy]

well orks' phykic powers are not driven by the warp. that is why the feral ork weirdboys don' test for the "perils of the wrap" when making there powers work. instead their powers work by the energy of the orks around them. the more orks the more powerful the weirdboyz can become... but the more powerful they become the more chance that they can't handle such a vast amount of energy and their head goes boom.   But back on the subject of if the Orks can or cannot take over the 40K universe, is that it is possible... but then again it is possible for any of the other races to wipe out the others. The orks do have the numbers to due it and it is said that in the larger ork empires a regular slugga boy could be as powerful or even more powerful than a space marine... just think of how big a warboss would have to be to gain control of those guys in the first place   .  But the fact is that the Adeptus Mechanicus could wipe them out if they wanted to. A single Titan Legion Transport on it's way to the 2nd armageddon campaign destroyed an entire ork warfleet on it's own suffering only minor damage and then continued on its way to the planet. With so many Forgeworlds out there capable of even destroying hivefleets single handedly, if they ever wanted to they could wipe out ork empires without a second thought.

[liruisheng]

all psychic power is from the warp. thats where psychic power comes from. the reason why orks dont test is cos of the way their mind works. ie, a daemon wouldnt possess a mushroom, so why posess an ork?

[Insidious Heresy]

the reason orks don't get possessed.... beacuse they do not use the warp. they do not have phykic powers but for simplicity their werid powers were said to be used in the phykic phase.

[flayling_wildly]

i have an ork army and play with a group of mates. they have tyranid, spacemarine and eldar armies. I have only been beaten once whilst using them. I think they are awesome.  The standard troops are cheap and deadly if used correctly. I think that the orks have the ability to conquer the universe but they lack leadership. but any ways if the did conquer everything their wouldn't be much left 2 do. But the orks are a big pain in the butt as they are impossible to remove from a planet without destroying everything else as well due to their spores. Any ways doesnt the imperium have more to worry about at the moment  u know cos of the c'tan and the nids

[flayling_wildly]

Why are you worrying about the orks at the moment, their lack of leadership will keep them squabbling but their spores can be a big pain in the butt. The revival of the c'tan and the on coming tyranid swarm should probably be more of a worry to the imperium with only a hand full of spacemarine chapters left and internal bickering between systems they are going to be pretty screwed unless they get their A into G.

[Burld]

as a dedicated chaos follower i can say that nothing will stand in the way of chaos, for even if the warp were to be closed the dark powers that be would simply find another way to come throught, even if it took milenia...!

but from the a outsiders view i believe that orks have the uncanny ability to survive no matter what. i mean think about it, they have been around since the fantisy times (ie. ages and ages in the past) and therefore they will most likely be around even after the universe blows up and everyother race is long gone...

just my opinion though.

[liruisheng]

and therefore they will most likely be around even after the universe blows up and everyother race is long gone...

"hey boss, where'd they go?"
"erm.. i dunno, maybe theys off konstructing some mega weapon cos wes so ard and fighty"
*strains ears*
"i canne ear nuffin boss. i they being reelly sneaky grot like bout it?"
"well o course theys bein sneaky grot like, cos theys know that if we knew what they was doin then we'd go an bash em up and go like "oi! no!" and then they'd poop themselves like eldar girlys"
"yeah but boss, we does know now doesnt we"
"yer, no ones as cunnin as an ork, lets go find em and bash em"
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