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30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« on: September 2, 2003, 06:58:24 AM »
Today is the 30th anniversary of the death of one of the Twentieth centuries greatest writers. Recently gaining much acclaim with the release of the film versions of his epic Lord of The Rings he has and will remain to be one of science fictions greatest writers. So I would like you too spend a few moments remebering a great writer.

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Re:30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« Reply #1 on: September 2, 2003, 07:11:10 AM »
True, a tribute to Tolkien.

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Re:30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« Reply #2 on: September 2, 2003, 07:34:19 AM »
He lived and died well enough, but I am sure he would have objected to the treatment his works have received at the hands of hollywood/Jackson. He was greatly upset about the changed translator Åke Ohlmarks made when he transated the books into Swedsih. And those were slight, very very slight, in comparison to what has been done to the books now.

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Re:30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« Reply #3 on: September 2, 2003, 10:32:07 AM »
All hail Tolkien.

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Re:30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« Reply #4 on: September 2, 2003, 11:39:05 AM »
Indeed a great man and writer and yes Ramus does come from sweden I believe and  if you follow the lik in his profile you can see his website.
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Re:30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« Reply #5 on: September 2, 2003, 12:13:50 PM »
Meh. I never like LOTR, and The Hobbit was written for children, teh language used and the way he writes it show that easily.


Ah, well, any death is bad. He writes better tahn me (just ;), j/k ) Here's to tolkien!
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Re:30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« Reply #6 on: September 2, 2003, 02:09:41 PM »
Indeed, the Hobbit started out as a bedtime-story for his children, but they kept pestering him about details he forgot "But dad, you said Thorin had a silver cap with blue stripes yesterday!" So he wrote it down.

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Re:30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« Reply #7 on: September 3, 2003, 07:47:37 PM »
Tolkkien was indeed great. And there is a writer today that carries on his style. Its a little more simplistic though but the battle scenes and plot stay good. Dennis mckiernan  writes them. You can pick them up at any book store in the scifi/fantasy section. They are up there on my fave book list,. I would personally reccomend the dragonstone

All the books are related to each other but they dont need to be read in order. Just the big events all affect each other and some characters carry threw. That one is good to start as it is fairly early on the timeline of their world.

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Re:30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« Reply #8 on: September 3, 2003, 08:11:11 PM »
Tolkien is the Man !
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You have to figure every fanasty story is in some way based of Lotr or Use the same Plot  ;)
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Re:30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« Reply #9 on: September 3, 2003, 09:49:49 PM »
Agreed, Tolkien is the best author 20th century has every seen.  Hobit was lame and for children, but not LoTR nor Silmarion (sp?). I greatly enjoy reading the Lost Tales Books and can never get enough of LoTR.

Seriously Tolkien has to be my favorite author, wich he would still be here to write up some more stories branching out of LoTR.

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Re:30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« Reply #10 on: September 4, 2003, 12:30:01 PM »
The LOTR universe was good, but it seemed too big and unexplained. LOTR was just too long for it's own good, IMO. I got half-way through the Three Kings (Merry is wounded or sick or something and Aragorn asks for some leaves?) And got so bored that I stopped.
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Re:30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« Reply #11 on: September 4, 2003, 01:18:02 PM »
Silmarilion Blood Mage which incidnetly he never finished he died before he managed to so it is incomplete.

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Re:30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« Reply #12 on: September 4, 2003, 01:33:06 PM »
Dont the High Elves fight an Army of Balrogs in the Silmarilion?

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Re:30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« Reply #13 on: September 4, 2003, 02:16:40 PM »
Now that, I gotta see. But they'll never make a movie of an unfinihsed peice, and I hear the Silmarilion is a long boring list of only-see-once 10-sylable names doing fantasy-ish things... Even my friend, who is a LoTR veteran couldn't fathom it... He stopped reading it. My other friend, on the other hand, enjoyed reading it, I think...
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Re:30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« Reply #14 on: September 4, 2003, 02:23:30 PM »
Ah yes, to the memory of a great writer and a great man *lifts imaginary glass of vine*

I like the first book of LoTR (not hobbit, but the other one can't remember name) the rest were lame, but well written.

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Re:30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« Reply #15 on: September 4, 2003, 11:06:53 PM »
HarlequinSolitaire, I do not know how could you possibly get bored at that part of the book, the best part is yet to come later on in the book. But you didnt read  :-\
And The Lost Tales were written to explain much, much more about the LoTR world. Those books are soo awsome, I mean he has a story for even gnomes.

Silmarilion is very long and hard to grasp, I'm going to restart reading it (got half way through) so maybe I can understand better. But that book is only for diehard Tolkien fans, if your not dont even try to read it 9you wont even like it anyways)

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Re:30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« Reply #16 on: September 5, 2003, 12:03:05 PM »
I found LoTR an endurance challenge father than a great read... Sorry, but why did he make it that long? It had some interesting bits, (Hobbits smoking wizard-weed, lol) but mainly, I got a kinda bored impression. And I think Tolkien liked wizardweed himself, especially when he was writing the whole Tom Bombadil bit.. I mean,wtf!? Thank goodness they skipped that bit in teh film, eh?
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Re:30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« Reply #17 on: September 5, 2003, 12:27:26 PM »
Tom Bombadil happens to be one of the best enigma's in the entire book. Who or what Bombadil is, brings up much debate.

The Lord of the Rings trilogy is as long as it took to explain the story. Who do you compare him with?

Robert Jordan took how many books to tell a story that could have taken three max?

The tales of Thomas Covenant are pretty close in length but not in depth.

I cannot see one single writer that could be said to be better than Tolkien when it comes to fantasy, but it is very interesting that all fantasy writers are compared against Tolkien.

He may not have started fantasy, but he certainly started the genre we call fantasy today.

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Re:30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« Reply #18 on: September 5, 2003, 01:23:42 PM »
tolkien IS one the best writers through all times...

although the movies could have been done better, they always can...

3 books long? if you mean when things "happend" is when they fight?  that is what makes a book and gives it depth, builds up the characters to more than just names on paper.
if tolkien made 4 books or even more i would be more than happy to read those too.
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Re:30 Years Since Tolkeins Death
« Reply #19 on: September 5, 2003, 03:30:15 PM »
Guys, guys...


Firstly, a better writer, well the 'Adventures of the Raven' Trilogy (I forget who they are by, they have colored page-edges, so they should be easy to spot in a bookshop) Are better, as are the 'His Dark Materials' trilogy by Phillip Paulman.

And I didn't say fighting, I just meant there seemd to be a lot of unneccasary characters, groups and locations that are mentioned once and then vanish.
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