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Offline Elesar

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Phonix Lord
« on: May 5, 2003, 03:50:24 PM »
If you put Phonix lord Karandras in a Howling Banshe squad, do they get inflintrate from Karandras stealth abilety. And can you do that with a Wraith lord. I am guessing the answer is now.
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Re:Phonix Lord
« Reply #1 on: May 5, 2003, 03:58:46 PM »
No, I don't think you can even put phoenix lords in differing aspect squads, never mind let the squad gain the lord's abilities.
And Wraithlords aren't characters, so no.
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Re:Phonix Lord
« Reply #2 on: May 5, 2003, 05:00:58 PM »
You can put the phoenix lords into squads not of their aspect, they are independant characters. And yes, if you put karandras into a banshee squad they get the ability.
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Re:Phonix Lord
« Reply #3 on: May 5, 2003, 06:46:11 PM »
Sigh...No, they don't, we have debated this for a very long time, and No, Karadras CANNOT make another squad infiltrate. Why? Because he is a IC. IC do not start the game in a squad, they start by themselves outside of a squad. And because Infiltrate is used in the deployment stage, he cannot give the ability to other units. ONLY he can infiltrate.
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« Reply #4 on: May 5, 2003, 08:04:15 PM »
Actually under the Exarch powers in the Eldar codex it says that an exarch with the stealth power leading a squad will allow the entire squad to infiltrate if allowed by mission.
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Re:Phonix Lord
« Reply #5 on: May 5, 2003, 08:21:42 PM »
But he is NOT leading a squad.  He doesn't have a squad at the beginning.  If you want him to be part of a squad then you would make him join the squad in your first turn of movement.
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Re:Phonix Lord
« Reply #6 on: May 5, 2003, 08:38:02 PM »
It's been stated, but I think I'll put it in words clearer.
An Independant Character joins squads merely by moving up to within 2" and the player declaring the model a part of the squad. Note that both the character and the squad must be on the board to do so.
But, since the squad is already on the board, they may not infiltrate, as they are already deployed.
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Re:Phonix Lord
« Reply #7 on: May 5, 2003, 08:58:38 PM »
Wasn't thinking of the IC rule, Sorry I usually use My Karandras miniature as my Exarch without his abilities and forgot the IC, My mistake.
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Re:Phonix Lord
« Reply #8 on: May 6, 2003, 09:27:03 AM »
course, i still firmly believe that if u stick Karandras with some banshee's they get the Surprise Assault ability...
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Re:Phonix Lord
« Reply #9 on: May 6, 2003, 06:13:48 PM »
ya thats right, as soon as a IC joins a squad they get what ever bonuses he has to offer. But he doesnt start out with one. sry about that.
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Re:Phonix Lord
« Reply #10 on: May 7, 2003, 01:00:03 PM »
hmmmm just noticed the spelling in the topic.


its PHOENIX lord, not PHONIX lord.  a PHONIX lord is someone that is a lord at reading heheh
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Re:Phonix Lord
« Reply #11 on: May 7, 2003, 07:46:15 PM »
Phonix Lord.....lol......w ell whatever.....im just wondering whats better a group of D-Cannons or V-Cannons....because someone said D-Cannons are better but V-cannons are better in bulk..... ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Re:Phonix Lord
« Reply #12 on: May 7, 2003, 07:53:05 PM »
I believe you may declare a independent character to be leading a squad before you deploy.  If that is the case, then you ARE allowed to give infiltrate to whatever squad you join.
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Re:Phonix Lord
« Reply #13 on: May 7, 2003, 10:02:13 PM »
I dont think so...
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Re:Phonix Lord
« Reply #14 on: May 7, 2003, 10:46:54 PM »
Quote from: shadydentist on May  7, 2003, 07:53:05 PM
I believe you may declare a independent character to be leading a squad before you deploy.  If that is the case, then you ARE allowed to give infiltrate to whatever squad you join.

If you could point ot that rule than it would be great, but no such rule exists.
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Re:Phonix Lord
« Reply #15 on: May 7, 2003, 11:15:47 PM »
Quote from: shadydentist on May  7, 2003, 07:53:05 PM
I believe you may declare a independent character to be leading a squad before you deploy.  If that is the case, then you ARE allowed to give infiltrate to whatever squad you join.

No, sorry, wrong.

an IC cannot join a squad until the first turn of a game, he will deploy seperatly, but can be deployed in the same location as a squad, as long as he meets the regular deployment rules.
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Re:Phonix Lord
« Reply #16 on: May 7, 2003, 11:36:53 PM »
Quote from: Barothos, The Path-Finder on May  7, 2003, 07:46:15 PM
Phonix Lord.....lol......w ell whatever.....im just wondering whats better a group of D-Cannons or V-Cannons....because someone said D-Cannons are better but V-cannons are better in bulk.....

Well, take a look at the stats and effects of each weapon, and weigh each on it's support effects in conjunction with your army's tactics and strategies. Then, you'll have which one is better for you.
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Re:Phonix Lord
« Reply #17 on: May 8, 2003, 09:39:22 AM »
personally i would think that a V-cannon is best against nids, but d-cannon is better all around.

multiple v-cannons just add to the strength, while multiple d-cannons give u more shots!
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