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Modeling => Projects Blog => Topic started by: Sanctjud on September 14, 2007, 12:48:45 PM
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As the title suggests, i'm updating my PM's for the new COdex and for an upcoming tournement.
This also coincided with Ellobo's conversion contest.
Anyway, the original pics:
The concept:
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THe initial materials:
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The Skeleton:
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The Green stuff ;D :
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His Bro's:
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THeir Weapons, notice the melta guns on the left:
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UPDATE: THe Bro's pre-green stuff.
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I've got to Green stuff alot of hands for the PM's.
THe 7/10 of the squad:
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Thx for viewers and comments in advance.
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Those totally rule, my only problem with them is the old scything talon as a scythe. Looks a bit too big, other than that, they all rock. I hope you paint as well as you convert, put some pics up when they're done.
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thats so cool cant wait to see some more of your work.
pics are a bit blurry but its nurgle what the hell. onve they are painted it will rock the world.
are they regular marines or chosen or what are u using them as?
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good job, i personnally don't think the sything talon is to big, and i can't wait to see post green stuff, good job
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They are plaguemarines... specifically Deathguard, my first army and only army for 40K for 4 years, they've never let me down.
As for the sything talon, he's an older model, My PAST speed lieutenant with a man-reaper...
Yea, it's big, but he's won me too many games to justify resizing his weapon....the old Manreaper is just that over the top of a weapon that warrents it's size...
But now, game wise, he's the aspiring champion...with a power fist...talon...er.. .yea..lol.
Also notice the nurglings on the bases, they are supposed to represent blight gren..
Anyway, if I get to following my schedule, I'll be finishing the melta gunner skeletons and begin Green stuffing, hopefully I'll finish the GS, by Sunday with pics.
I'm hoping to get painting on Sunday too.
PS> my GS work is better than my painting...but fear not, I just bought some more paints and am going to do the best job painting them in a 6 hour window I've allowed myself to paint them....../sigh...i'm bad a sticking to schedules......
EDIT: Decided to do some basing / base coat models, so sunday's GS day.
THe Melta Gunners, Skeleton Constructed:
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The whole squad together:
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Dude these things kick arse! I love the scythe idea. I cant wait to see them done.
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those do look awesome. and with paint just ink wash its nurgle and he loves ink washes. but anyway thats painting what is the big thing behind the aspiring champ its big and im still wondering what the hell it is.
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I bet you that its either a chaos spawn( probably) or a demonic sentinal. I say it might be a sentinal because if you look at the back, it has those pipes.
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Sanctjud wonderful job you have done to these guys! Excellent... There is going to be more GS on the melta guys and the rest there isn't it?
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"There is going to be more GS on the melta guys and the rest there isn't it?"
I'll bet you alot of money on that.... ;D
The "big thing" used to be a spawn.... now it's upgraded to Plaguemarine status ..... well, that spawn was made exclusively for the dude with the scythe...but the new codex is a pain and doesn't let aspiring champions purchase spawns....sooooooo, it's a count as plaguemarine... it makes the squad more imposing.
ANYWAY !!!!! I GOT SOME GREENSTUFF done..
I Still have to do the eyes on every sythe, and use GS, to make those sythes look sharp on the under side lol, I forgot to file them down to sharpness...more work for me... /sigh..
Firstly the conversions all together:(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi150.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs98%2FSanctjud%2FDSC01451.jpg&hash=48f439b225027debf7cff5083248f93aebf8a3da)
Three pics of joe Plaguemarines:(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi150.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs98%2FSanctjud%2FDSC01452.jpg&hash=d11216cd294a5378aa6312ac8b21b5dcdbcdfb0d)
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The Melta guys.....I tried to make the eyes on the shoulders squinting cause of the melta action they hopefully be able to do in the game :P :
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I'm a little dissapointed I couldn't finish all my Greenstuff work today, I'm very behind on my personal schedule......still have to painted em by saturday ... ugh..
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I especially like the GS you have done... I won't be betting any money for the continue of the work ;-)
I like the melta guy on the left with the hood... the rot you have done on all of them is imposing! Keep up!
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I can't wait for the painted product... these look great at the moment, but ... so much GS showing and bits of plastic just doesn't do them justice!!!
sj
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Yay, I just finished the GS work on them... gotta paint em up during the week...
Anyway, the plastic sprues act as a cheap (recycling) alternative to flock/sand/etc.
Also the rest of my army is using it...so I gotta keep em looking similar.
In the future, as I have more time then, I'll think about building on the spure pase and adding sand to it... in the creaveses, and filing down the sides.
All huddling in template formation ;D :
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Man awesome... I like the hoods you have made on the models using GS. It gives an "air" of a so pestilent face that has to be hidden!
Grandpa Nurgle would love you...
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good ole' GS... A Nurlge player's wet dream ;)
Seriously though, good work!
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I've hand primed them Catachan Green...but I'll spare the server another pic.
Anyway...the painting i'm looking forward to finish will be:
Basic scheme: Pre-heresy Deathguard.
This will focus on Catachan green/Bleached bone combo.
THe mutated portions will be heavy in catachan green and dark angel green paint/highlights/washes.
Gore Red for the Eyes
A mixture or not, of Tenticle pink and Gore Red for the eyes on the should pads...something like that...
Well, that's all my colors that I have...oh one more:
I've got a little chaos black left... maybe a light wash to make them look darker.
And I want to use Shadow Grey... but I don't think it fits anywhere.. maybe on the weapons...
Maybe I could use it to paint a section of armor....to look similar to the rest of my army...
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A mixture or not, of Tenticle pink and Gore Red for the eyes on the should pads...something like that...
You actually know that the Nurgle sign is not Tentacle Pink? But if this is your sign I'm fine with it! I'm really looking forward to see those pre-heresy rotten Death Guard Marines!
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I mean in the eyes.. in the iris's... or like veins around the eyes...something like that...
I've got a limited number and amount of paint....and I'd like to use em all...
Plus, I find most of my paint scemes are boring, so some brighter colors like a little tenticle pink makes things stand out, or just not as boring as, catachan green and shades of Catachan green/bleached bone mixes lol.
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UPDATE (SEPT. 23)
First Pic, the whole squad I brought to the local Tourney:
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Second Pic, closer on the main dudes, obviously the painting isn't that great, I actually had the 3 hours before the tourney to paint them....
... GOD the Catachan Green and Chaos Black washes where a GOD-send....:
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There performance in the tourney........... they were %$#$%#%#^$# AWESOME.
Round 1, they took three turns (we only had 3 turns) of shooting from tau... pathfinders, stealth, HQ crisis suit retinue, 3 squads of 12 firewarriors, devilfish, hammerhead...I started with a squad of 10, I finished the game with 10................. ............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Round 2, versus orks, they took a combined charge from 2 ork mobs and a huge squad of gretchin too, killed them all over 3 turns, they held up my whole flank, without losing one model, also a total of 18 rokkits where fired at them, all failing to hit or wound... (Note: the powerclaws were killed off of both squads cause of 2 lucky lashs that pretty much sniped them from the front rank with rapid fire and shooting from 24" from the same squad)
Round 3, (vs. chaos) they didn't get much action, holding a flank, but at the end of the game, they wiped out a small 6 man missile launcher squad of havocs, with bolter fire alone, and claiming that table quarter...
THEY WERE GOD'S ON THE TABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wow... that's... that's amazing work man.
They've got real presence.
sj
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Damn you, damn you to hell. Now i wanna play nurgle! ;)
Mr.Squid
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That's awesome man, and good job on the tourny, got any new projects coming up?
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that squad must be real blessed by nurgle with luck that good.
may want to patch up paint job now since u don't have a deadline to worry about. remeber ink washes and more washes!
good luck and may chaos bless u ... more
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Thank you for the comments....
I'd like to add: I love Nurgle Too!
Projects:
1.Finish Painting the dudes, eventually painting is not my strong point, and I need these kind of deadlines to get cracking...so, sadly until the month before a tourney I'll get serious about them...for now I'll try doing so like highlighting work and a couple more wash of catachan or chaos black.....
I still need to decide I'm going to do the fleshy/mutatued parts with red gore/tenticle pink/catachan gree/ etc..with the colors available to me.
2. Ellobo's Contest for this month, hopefully i can hack up a rhino in 5 days...
These's Pm's might need a rhino some day..
3. Ellobo's Contest next month..i'm prob. not gonna be able to finish the rhino, so I;ll set my eyes on Ellobo's next contest...
Actually more important is making a better 1850 list.
Sorry, after reading my post, it is a little misleading misleading.. I did 5th/18th place in the tourney....kinda disappointed in some aspects of my list OTHER than the Pm's ;D
BTW, the Strawberry Short Cake Space Marine army won the 3rd time in a row at the place the tourney took place....congrats to him and the ..... um.... pink.... flowery.... hapyy space marines... ;D
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I had heard from a friend of mine that attended that tourney (Jon -Relictors) that a Nurgle army won best painted. Was that you?
and those Strawberry Shortcakes? I don't know. A well painted and funny army...but they irk me slightly for some reason. Perhaps because he is the winningest all the time or perhaps because they are slightly mocking. Not sure. Last tourney they were 'counts as' nightlords BTW.
later WG
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Come on make the Nurgle Rhino... those DG need a transport!
Also don't worry too much on the painting aspect of the DG... you can use inks mostly since the decay on them is more than obvious... Can't wait to see more!
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"won best painted" = heavens no, not me... the dude that got the painting done did pretty well, the PM's he used where painted like the cleaed without the green slime...and his dread was awesome, lots more greenstuff work tham me on that one walker alone.
It'll take me until Hell Freezes over to get that honor.. ;D
What I really hated about the tourney where the pre-determined terrain rules....
Which almost equated to:
If you are not in a city it's pretty much open field...3/3 games, my defiler dies first turn cause there's nothing to hide behind..and my havocs (4 Autocannons) whiffed every game.
Oh yea, the strawberry shortcake SM's, had a flower pot drop pod, that was awesome.
Personally, I though he could have worked a little more on the paint job on his Pred..though....not enough coats of pink...some patches look hazy...whether or not it's intentional.
I'm iffy about transports/vehicles in general... I'm doing it because it's a contest...most likely it'll end up as a dreadclaw instead of a rhino, or just interchangable...
As for the PM's, i'm also thinking of doing 2 more members so I don't need to use the spawn model... it detracts from the main dudes in the squad..
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UPDATE:
I'm canabalizing more of my other units to make more Plaguemarines...
For some, it's evidence how much I hate Tzeentch... (and also the end of my mixing Plague marines and thousand sons in the same list)
Instead of Thousand sons, I'll be looking into Noise Marines for midrange support, less fluff/background killing than Thousand sons supporting plague marines; I KNOW.
Here are the Rubric Terminator Thousand Sons of old:
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Here are concept sketches of things to come.... the greenstuff work and in general THE work will be similar to the previous Plaguemarines...exc ept they are a little taller I believe:
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The heads are going to be removed...
the shields will be like the shoulders of the Plaguemainres on the previous page...
The shoulders will be greenstuffed over to cover the thousand son shoulder...
The gut will be filled with intestines and stuff...like the PM's on the previous page...
I'm not sure what type or how I'm going to do the blade/sythe attachment at the end of the bolters.
As for the Rhino..... I persoanlly don't use/like vehicles.....so I'm not gonna go into the rhino conversion for some time...... if I go vehicles, I'll go Mech Deathguard with more vehicles than just 1 or 2.
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This sounds like a good idea that I would like to see in real life more than drawing... One question though... Were have the shields came from?
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The flying bases ;D
I've got alot of em.
As for the real life part, I just have to get cracking on it..... not any time soon though... got midterms...
Plus I need to flesh out the ideas, to make em better... esp. the Champion and the melta gunners.
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One question about your PMs - why do they have the bolters wrist-mounted if they also have them on their scythes? It seems odd to me.
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They are armed with:
Bolt Pistol-wrist mounted
Bolter-attached to the scythe
CCW-scythe
New Chaos: ;D
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The flying bases ;D
I've got alot of em.
Yes me too... and to be totally truthful I never thought of them as a solution!
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UPDATE: Oct 30.
Well after getting partially finished with these shining spears:
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I've been lazy, so I'm getting back in the plaguemarine goodness that is nurgle.
Here's a pic of the prepared-work-to-be-done plaguemarine tray:
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Here's a more detailed picture of what I'm going for:
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With these open stomach's, it allows me to put more intestines and guts into them...so that should be fun greenstuffing.
I'm still iffy about doing the shoulders... don't know what I want to do, the bigger regular shoulderpads with eyes, or the sprue shoulders...
Oh, yea, and the Dreadnought there in the back, it's gonna get turned into a plaguemarine eventually ;D , ideas in picture:
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I like the model, whatever it is besides the Dreadnought... I like the way he stands on the two bases...
Can you also tell how you made the shields? I tried to make one and I failed...
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The shields:
THey are just flying bases...
turn over to the flat side, dump glue on it, and glue hands to it...
Then I painted it to look like the void snakes/dragons where coiling around the edge of the shield. The middle of the flying base is either empty, or has the remains of a broken flying stand in it..
That's how I did it for the thousand sons...It was a kit bashing experiment, it's a pretty coarse and sloppy put together.
I'm not sure how else to explain it?? ??? ??
Obviously it's gonna take more finese this time round for the plagumarines ;D
Oh and the guy standing was an unfinished Lord, from the old codex, he's the lord where you spent over 51 points of daemonic stuff, but not daemonic stature... but that's gone... and I needed another member for the squad... so i might just finish him as a plagumarine. He's made of alot of necron parts, some SM stuff.
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He is excellent... thanks Sanctjud! The ex-Lord is just awesome!
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Update Nov 3, 2007.
Slow progress...
Anyway, I've done alot of pre-green stuff work with them... (maybe I'm stretching the word 'alot' )
First pic: the 8 normal Plaguemarines:
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The Pm's with the targetors in their helmets will be the melta gunners. I beefed up the right shoulder pads... the left shoulder pads may just be like the previous PM's I did... it's only the matter of finding some shoulder pads... worse comes to worse.. I'll just use the metal thousand sons shoulders that originally on them. Oh yea, and those pulse carbines on their backs will be green stuffed over kinda... to make pores like those on the back of Typhus...something like that... or exhaust pipes, etc. etc.
Second Pic are the weapons: this time round they are a little shorter and I used the pulse rifle barrel to beef up the shaft instead of just using sprue. I didn't have any melta guns, so I made due with tau fusion blasters... hey, at least I can flip-flop between using them as melta's or plasma... they sorta look the part of each:
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The bolt pistol on the model will be integrated to the shield... then I'll be doing the triangular eyes on the shield too. Then I included the skeleton to the straps/handle on the back of the shield... so that it won't just look like the modle just has a round thingy glued onto him... he will actually look like he's holding it ;) :
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After I finalize the 'skeleton' I'll get working on the green stuff. Also, I might just leave the shield and sythe un attached... for the sake of painting... then when everything's dry... attach them, along with greenstuff work and painting a second round.... then washing the whole thing agian........
As for the 2 other members of the squad........... one of the members will be a 'spawn' with all the spikes on him..., the dreadnought Plaguemarine is gonna be going to the previous pages PM's...
As for the last member of the squad... i'm not sure what I want to do with him...... it's either re-painting the champ I alreay have for the squad... of finished the Lord on the steps.....
It prob. just depends on how lazy or not I am... ;D
Anyway, My 2 Cents, and several pounds of greenstuff. ;D
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Update Nov 4, 2007.
Before anything, I need to apoligize about my camera... it takes pictures as if they are partially meltings... you ask why?.... cause my camera is literally dying...... maybe it's melting inside to match the photos...? ;D
Well, i got off my lazy .... rear... ;) and worked on the new Pm's some more.
I've attached the 'arms'... they are the necron warrior guns...but butchered up... obviously green stuff will partially cover it up... I used it for the cables...
I still need to do the eyes on the left shoulder pads.
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Now I don't call the arm attachment work..
Now this is work, the shields:
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I ran out of Greenstuff... that's why I got the 3 in the front row without the 'eyes'... so I tryed to throw some variety into the shields.... I'm not too happy with em.. maybe when I get more GS, I'll add some smaller eyes around the talons.... the Idea was that the talons where used to rip eye socket holes...etc.etc.etc .
Anyway, I'm debating if I should get the GW greenstuff or order some off of Gale Force Nine.....
I could pay more for less at GW... or pay less for more from Gale Force Nine..... what a hard decision..... ::)
Comments welcomed.
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Your GS ran out? One word... Miliput. Same material less money...
Apart from that I love the work you have done to these models! The weapons as always and the shields are above all... I really want to see the pipes on their backs from Tau parts... :-)
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Another update: Nov 5.
Since no GW, and I'm looking into Milliput... , was working on arms... obviously they need greenstuffing for the arms holding the weapons:
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Preview of the shield and weapon in hand PM's...
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Oh, and I've decided to put off doing the 'ex-lord'... I'll be falling back on the guy in the middle as the extra 'trooper', gotta think of a way to put the 'shield' on him....
To do list:
Should eyes.
Backpack 'vents'
Stomach contents that are hanging out...
Extra assortment of grenades and clips and such around the stomach
the 'hoods'
the GS'ing around the legs...
Anyway, thx for views/comments.
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These guys are looking awesome, can't wait to see the finished product
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And truly sanctjud I very happy you have followed my advice on Miliput... Excellent work so far... I can't wait to see more work of these guys... and everyday I wait to see if there are updates. I am addicted to this topic...
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the bases and the colours arnt top. what are they standing on? pieces of lumber going down a river ;)
i think it whould look better if you chopped the "lumber" into smaller bits, and made piles out of it :)
but your skills with green stuff and the scrythe w/bolters-meltas were great dude!
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Which colors?
If it's the plaguemarines on the previous pages... then I explained why it sucks.
As for the WIP plaguemarines on this page.... that color scheme are my thousand sons... I'm butchering them for plaguemarines.... sooo I haven't painted them yet...
As for the bases... I never bought 'flock' / gravel, etc. so my only basing material on all my models is sprue... which goes along with not wasting anything mentality... but if I where to 'chop' them up... it's alot of work to redo my whole army that way...
I actually like the bases... they end up looking very uniform when 'ranked up'... and are simple and plain...without detracting from the model itself.
"great dude"
"looking awesome,"
"I am addicted to this topic"
-Wow thanks... I can almost say the same thing, I'm addicted to plaguemarines ;D
I've uncovered a pack of GW greenstuff... so... it's not enough to do all the PM's details... so I was thinking of just doing the weapons first and the touch up GS work on my Daemon Princes/big plaguemarines.
I'll see what I get to today.
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Hehe, I've been busy these days... soooo... I used some of the GS I found. It's not enough for the PM's, so I used the GS on other important figures in my army ( yay for double meanings).
Firstly, My tools: (yes that's a flat head screw driver):
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Second, my Main Deamon Prince, side shots and rear shot... yes, those are giant jump packs... (they are its wings, but hey, modelling > rules changes) if you have to know, those are the thrusters off of a spawn model :-[
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As you can see, i'm keeping with the eye theme.
Thirdly, this is my secondary Daemon Prince, but now will serve as the 10th member of the second squad of Plaguemarines I've been presently converting, Front and back shots... as you can see it also has the eye theme.... and it also has the proposed 'head' hood as the rest of the squad... so he fits right in:
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Comments Welcomed.
It'll be next week til I get new greenstuff or miliput(still searching where to get it in stores and not online :'( ) So... I have a 6 inch strip of pre-greenstuff.... don't know what I'll do with it.... maybe start work on the PM's eyes on the weapons or the shoulder pads, or add more details to these DP's for now... maybe some more eyes on the shoulder pads.... and gun drones.... etc. etc. etc.
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Poor Dread... I am so sorry for it... but on the other hand the use of the drones as little shields are very nice... When do you believe you will finish them?
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All I can say is WOW.
you do such a good job on the convertions im very happy to have seen them. I cant wait till you do more and finish the ones your currently on!
ALL PRAISE CHAOS!!!
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Thx for replies!
I'll still be working with Greenstuff next week, it's just much easier for me to get GW GS... even though it's more expensive and almost 60% less Greenstuff for the cost...
"When do you believe you will finish them?"
I don't know, I thought I was done with the 'gundrone' chaos thingy...
Should I cover-up all the gundrones with eyes... or are good things in moderation...?
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UPDATE: NOV. 17
OK, so... I was lazy and stupid, but I got some packs of Greenstuff from a non-GW store...
So, I'm back into converting my PM's
I only have 1 photo this time around:
I did some more work on the 'daemon prince' in the back... due to the comment about gun drones look like gun drones...
So I added to LARGE eyes on the shoulder gundrones and a pestulated back drone...
I don't know how to describe them... any, still thinking about what I'm going to do with the 1 or 2 gun drones left to cover up, (definetly i'm leave 2-3 gun drones showing, to show where the basics of the model come from).
Well, nothing much about the PM's... I got started on 5/8 of the shoulders... I forgot to extend the shoulder guards with notecards, so the eyes are smaller this time around, and actually took longer to work with than expected.
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So, through the next week + saturday(If I don't get a game) will be used to finish the shoulders/weapons and arms+hands...
I still have the guy/body/head to do, the shield arm, and maybe the feet.
My 2 Cents.
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Lookin good, definitely like the shoulder pads and eyes on the scythes.
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The eyes are absolutely awesome! I definitely would like to tell, if it is possible, how have you made them!
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UPDATE: NOVEMBER 23.
Well, I've been really lazy... but I finished all their shoulders and armpits. I started on the arms and hands. I finished 4/8 arms so far.
As you'll see in the back ground, that's the brief outline of what I need to do etc.
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Anyway, I've got alot of stuff I'm gonna be doing. Esp. for the converted army competition somewhere on these boards...
Another DP with wings based on a dreadnought, 14 raptors that are gonna look like the snake head DP... and updating all my other models with more greenstuff/conversions...
It's gonna be around a 3000 point army all conversions... by May of 2008... ( when I graduate college too ;D )
As for like a walk through thingy, here's an outline:
1. Roll up a small ball of GS... and apply it centrally to where you want the eye.
2. Then flatten out 2 sausage pieces for the eye lids... place the lower lid first, then layer the top on second, make sure the ends of the lids are on top of each other...
3. Then with any modeling tool, do a 'stapling' kind of motion on the eye lid ends... push them down so that they 'bond/stick' together.
4. To make the 'eye lids' eye lids, starting from around 1MM from the edge of the eye and the eye lids, take the modeling tool and nudge the GS in the direction of the slope and push all the way down. Keep doing the while moving from one end of the eye lid to the other.
5. Repeat (4) on the other eye lid.
6. To get the texture around the eyes... I simply used the 'staple' motion on the entire area of the GS, flattening it and creating dimples at the same time.
NOTE: my tool is the same exact screw driver shown a couple photos back with my hand in the back ground... that screw driver gives me a wide sloping action when doing the actual eye lids...and provides an interesting texture when doing the 'staple' motion on the excess area of GS.
I hope this helps... IMO, it's not hard, but does get time consuming and tedious (as the eyes get smaller :P ) More practice with GS the more you get used to it. It's more about this going through my mind: "Less is more."
My 2 Cents.
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Thanks for the quick outline of how-to!
You have done a tremendous job at the Plague Marines... their hands and weapons. And I like the fact that you are so organized, more than I will ever be!
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I wish people with this much talent applied it to armies that not everyone else has.
Regardless, they look AMAZING. Good work, can't wait to see the army screenshot.
~dan
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Did you get the idear for the eye in the weapons from soulcalibur? :D
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I don't play video games alot...
It sounds like a shooter...
Anyway, I'll google it and see about them eyes, maybe I'll get something out of it.
Thx Omalley69.
Oh and a brief update... been doing games with the guys instead of modeling... PM's are still good... but noise marines have been failing me.. so do the havoc squads...
ANyway, I'm gonna do the GS work to finish up the shields today...and I've started a scratch built BFG fleet too.
Also, I'm doing the big army converstion contest thingy.. .so some of this stuff will be on it... with some penalties.
EDIT: OHHH, that's looks awesome.... I saw the guy with the eyes in his chest and the dude with the oversized sword and the eye in it... wowzors.... I gotta do my weapons better hehe.
OK: UPDATE: DECEMBER 3, 2007
I've scrapped the ships.. I'll get a picture of them when they are all assembled.
My 2 Cents.
My 2 Cents.
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Nice BFG fleet although the pictures have betrayed you... the quality is poor but I can understand from the green spots in them that there is GS involved... I would like to see some clearer photos...
Oh... and please finish the shields and the PMs... You don't want to be hunted down by the Decaying God...! ;-)
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Actually, I havn't done any GS yet, those green spots are cut down Necron green sticks they use in their guns.
Bascally, I had originally wanted to make a WHOLE 1500 Necron fleet with a box of warriors.... but I crapped that Idea, as the sizes where too small, So i defaulted to the tyranid list where the escorts drones couldbe smaller and the hive ships would be more work.
I'll get started on the shields at maybe 4pm after classes.
My 2 Cents.
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True UPDATE DECEMBER 03, 2007
Yea, my camera is dying and I've yet to get a new camera... or the money to actually get one............
So, I used half a pack of greenstuff to day, I have 1 pack left... wow, i go through GS like... oxygen.
Anyway, I;ve done the shields... the held side anyway... and it's gonna be 80% obscured when attached to the actual models... so... I know I did it...
I've still got to do up the remainng 3 shields without eye-lids on them.
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Also, I started finishing my obliterators, adding effects so that they look like my plaguemarines:
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I like the use of Necron heads to the shields... Very nice results...
But for the obliterators I have to say that they look somewhat hectic... especially the tall one in the middle! Don't you think he needs some beefing up especially to the legs?
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About the Oblits, they still need alot of greenstuff... just wanted to make their debut.
As for the necron heads, thanks, I was thinking, since there were eyes on the shields, maybe a face on the other side could tell the PM's what's shooting at him if he has it out in front of him... something like that.
I want to finishing some of the minor greenstuff on the oblits before I start doing the guts of the plaguemarines.
I'll get a picture of my WIP fleet too later.
My 2 Cents.
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The oblies rock hard, very hard. ;) ;)
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OK, UPDATE: DECEMBER 04, 2007
I promise the next things I do will be PM related, I'll be working on the guts.
Now, I've got better pics of my BFG fleet (using tyranid rules):
THe cruisers will be converted to be hive ships
The Ships with the larger wings will be Kraken
THe Smallest ships will be Escort drones:
THe whole WIP fleet:
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This is a close up on the completed escorts/size comparisons:
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Next up I've finished my first squad of 3 oblits, going with the PM theme:
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Several angles of the more converted 'leader' obliterator
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Also, a note, these guys where originally chaos Tau crisis suits (as you can see there's an unfortunate pilot who's been sacrificed to keep the suit moving. etc.
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Hahaha... Necron bodies... man awesome. How have you thought of that? The only thing that I don't like now is in the last picture the stripes of GS... but I think you will work on it... ;-)
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EDIT:ALEXANDER'S SON'S responce:
OK, I'll add an eye to the cener of the strip and flesh out the tenticles... I'll see what I can do, that is after I do/finish the guys of my pm's ;D
Also, I've been told by someone ( not on this forum ) that the obliterators don't look 40K and they don't look chaos, (other than the Greenstuff)...
Was wondering if anyone has any ideas to 'furthur' chaos -ify them..
I've got the cloth on top cut to look like a giant nurgle sign on top of em....
Maybe add eyes around the disk-like head... on top of the draped cloth.
More wires/guts.... cover up more the non-GW pieces with more GS...
Thanks.
My 2 Cents.
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More wires and some guts... will strengthen the 40k feeling on them... maybe add the Nurgle sign somewhere!
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Nurgle sign, WHAT NURGLE SIGN?
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;D
And here's sort of an army wide picture (intentionally blurred, of things to come...), these are all gonna end up being conversions or converted more. For myself and the army convertion contest.
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What's missing from the pictures would be my lesser daemons, Abbadon, 2 Greater Daemons, spawns, defiler, Chaos Tau patrol, Chaos Eldar rapid responce force... and some other nifty things.
My 2 Cents.
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Oh my God Sanctjud... The army is absolutely wonderful. I wouldn't like to play against you on the table since I would be on my knees hailing...
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What Nurgle sign? LOL...
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What are the guys with the bony crests on their heads?
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Thank you for breaking the mold of what nurgle is "supposed" to look like :)
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Thx Brierton, just another point of view on the lovely bliss that is grandfather nurgle's bile and pus; I'd swim in it if I could :D
Bony Crests:
Well, they are due for an update. They are next on the lists of plague marines to be.
Old Pics, I don't have any 'good' pics of em, the angle is not so good on them here:
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Anyway, they where originally wraithguard, converted from Necron and tau parts after I butched both those armies for my Chaos army.... I've been using them as plaguemarines for the past year and a half...
PS .... (LEGO SWORDS FTW, LOL) :D
THe Update is gonna look something like this, (planning stage):
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If not plaguemarines, they'd work well as Khorn Bezerkers having worked a long time with Nurgle forces.... I was thinking of Khorne, because of the 2 CCW's.... other than that I was playing with the idea that they would be my noise marines with sonic blasters... how you ask?... by them throwing their sythes kind of like boomerangs or something like that, but that's a stretch..
OH, and while I procrasticate and NOT, do the plaguemarine guys/intestine... I drew up on the plans for the next dreanought based Daemon Prince:
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I can't wait to get started on him... but first I still need to finish:
1. Plaguemarines
2. Obliterators
3. My older Daemon Princes.
4. 'Chaos Wraithguard'
5. New Daemon Prince
So the schedule is something like that.
My 2 Cents.
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OK, UPDATE DECEMBER 06, 2007
Well I did greenstuff all over the place, BUT I DID do some PM's...
Fistly: How is he now?
I put some more work onto the gun side tenticle thingys.
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I've also added an arm for balance purposes and... well oblits have power fists so that works out nicely... I still have details on the arm, just need to wait for em to dry to do more.
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Here's a little more work on the other oblits, this has eyes on the arms and the side of the missile pods on both sides:
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And the finale for this update anyway... ( I don't know about the cloth up front, I might have to work on that again, but I like the stomach so far). This is the champion of the squad for now... depends how the other guy turns out, the guy with the cape a while back.
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My 2 Cents.
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I can surely give you credit for working the GS so nicely... So beautifully grotesque!
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I must ask. whered you learn to use GS like that?? I wish I could do that... lol. The only thing I've done good with GS is make tenticles on my Land Raider :'( (I'll probably use some on my terminators)
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thats a sweet looking star fish, man you've got skill...
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i like them but somehow i get a Chtulu vibe and not a nurgle vibe are you sure you are not secretly reading the Necromonicon? ;D
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UPDATE: DECEMBER 08, 2007.
OK, so I've got some pics on the next obliterators I'll be greenstuffing:
(as you can see, these are tau crisis suits) Also, note that the tau conversions were... convertions back in the day without green stuff... just bashing them together.
Anyway, these are my Shas'o and 2 other of my Deathrain-4 crisis suits.
Sorry about the first pic, as I've said, (camera's dying).
EDIT: I cut out the first 2 pics, they are on the next page.
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Pic of all the work I did today.
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I finished the oblits arms.
I did all the Pm's 'visors'... did a couple weapon eyes (note: they are double sided), redid the mouth cloth of the champion.
A close up pick of the 2 guys I managed to finish with the rest of my 1/2 pack of greenstuff.
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I guarentee I don't know much about Chtulu, other than Tzeentchling's avatar!
As for the greenstuffing, it's more about my having a clear picture of what I want to do with the greenstuff. I plan my greenstuffing maybe a month in advance, drawing/doodling... when I do the actual work I know what I'm doing and well, I smash right through it, ( if you look closely you'll see finger prints, and it's more that I'm lazy... which is bad.. but from the way I paint, it doesn't matter.. ;D )
The way I green stuff is pretty course... I use a screwdriver as my modeling tool... so you could imagine how the greenstuff feels being manhandeled like that, and really the more you use it, the more comfortable you are with it, the easier it is to do the textures I do, in reality, It only involves me jackhammering the greenstuff until it 'looks right'.
And some advice that I keep repeating in my mind as I do this:
"Less is More" and "Always keep my fingures/tools wet."
My 2 Cents.
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UPDATE DECEMBER 10, 2007.
Right, so with 1/4 strip of Greenstuff:
I finished the 'eyeless' shields, I don't have a pic, but I greenstuffed them to make em look like the scything talons are coming out of closed eye-lids.
I worked on the aspiring champion... extended the hood down the back of him, put a nurgle sign on his left shoulder pad, in the for of 3 growths on it... I filled the gaps around the head between the shoulder and powerfist, and I added an eye on his combi-bolter.
I also did 3 more guys today, front row:
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The 3 guys in the back were done on the 8th of december. I have 4 more guts to do, 5 more scythe eyes to do, all their backpacks, 8 hoods, and attaching the sheild.
I'm thinking of doing something on their shins.. like a shin guard... etc.
My 2 Cents.
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sanctiguard your to dam good at this great job mate keep it up
armour for the shins would be cool just to bullk them out and make them look less top heavy
dreades
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UPDATE: DECEMBER 11, 2007
RIGHT, so I finshed all the guts I needed to do. And I did one guys' head (second pic, left side). Here are some pics of everybody:
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Here's a picture of about 2-3 weeks worth of greenstuff/work:
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SOOO, I've got to finsh their heads, finish the weapon eyes, attach the shields, do the backpack, and bulk out the legs.
Then I've got to actually do the model behind the aspiring champion in the middle of the picture...
My 2 Cents.
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And you forgot something... start painting! I like the results you have made... Grandfather Nurgle will be so proud of you...
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looking very Nurgly :) looking forwar to your putrid colors
the 2 in the middle on the big picture. have a toxic green aura going on, is that the miasma of nurgle?
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UPDATE: DECEMBER 17, 2007
These are the before pics of the my tau shas'o turned chaos obliterator.
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After some greenstuff, I' maybe 80% done with greenstuffing him just some more details to touch up.
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I Glued the shields onto the PM's, and are now awaiting greenstuffing the arm connection to the shields:
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Oh, and here's my 1850 chaos list:
http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=150500.msg1827159#msg1827159
And here's the army wide picture for now:
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I've still got alot of greenstuff to still do. SO until then.
My 2 Cents.
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What is the unfinished Necron with the Chaos Terminator head coming out of his crotch? Nice work in general though.
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Since Sanctjud uses everything, as we can see in all above pictures, I guess the model is a Nurgle Champion or a plain Nurgle Marine!
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UPDATE: DECEMBER 19, 2007
Right, so I go 2 new packs of greenstuff, cause my last 2 packs are running out.
@Tzeentchling, thx, and Alexander's son got it right, it's gonna be 'just' another plague marines. So pages back, I described what he was originally...I'll say it again.
You know back in 3.5 edition... they had these Daemon Prince Lords, with 51+ points in daemonic gifts... but were NOT d. Stature... that tall necrony guy was one of my old project that I started... But it ended up I never needed that type of model... so I never finished them.
NOTE: before these plaguemarines, my coversions were all kit bashes no greenstuff.. so I was proud of them, but now, it's GS ftw.
Anyway: This is a pic of stuff I did today:
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A close up, I've finished 90% these 5 PM's... I have 3 more waiting for head and weapon GS. Then I need to do all of their backpacks.
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I changed up the champ powerfist to a over grown double-bladed thingy.... anyway it's still a powerfist, just more sharp.
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I did MAJOR work on the necron guy you saw/ we discussed:
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I'm thinking he really should be the plauge champion of the squad... just need to work out how the scyth gun can be represented as a powerfist... this works well as the original aspiring champ has the bladed powerfists, it can easily just look like a CCW.
My 2 Cents.
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Totally excellent work you have done for the exNecron and now Nurgle Marine/Champion... in the bottom line everything and everyone can nurglify!
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UPDATE: DECEMBER 21, 2007
Yea... so, I finished the greenstuff on them...
YES< I finished the Plaguemarines, and it took 2.5 packs of greenstuff...sigh.
Here's the squad:
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Close-up on a trio of my fav's, front and back:
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Now, it's on to painting, and it's pretty much the same as the old PM's... any flat un-nurgled surface will be Bleached Bone and a light green to mimic the Pre-Heresy Deathguard. Then any nurgle parts are catachan green and washs of chaos black.
Weapons will be Shadow grey and gore red based.
Eyes and intestines will be tenticle pink and gore red based, with Catachan green/light green, and chaos black washs.
Well that's the plan anyway.
All Hail Grandfather Nurgle!
My 2 Cents.
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Really impressive Greenstuff work and posing!
If somebody had told me they wanted to use tau bits with nurgle marines I would have held back a chuckle but here you've shown how it actually works really well. Very impressive looking force.
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Gloop... they are gross... which is good for Plague Marines... can't wait to see more on your expanding army Sanct...
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UPDATE: DECEMBER 22, 2007
I'm doing it again, I'm procrastinating.
I ended up doing some kit bashing. I did finished the Abbadon conversion in 1 day:
( LOOK MA, NO GREENSTUFF )Some all-around shots:
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But, yes, there's gonna be greenstuff to 'cover-up' some really course kit bashing still evident on the model.
Anyway, I got a pic. of everything I need to get painted in the next 8 days to get ready for an upcoming tournement.
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So... maybe I'll get em base-painted in the next 2-3 days.
My 2 Cents.
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UPDATE: DECEMBER 22, 2007
I'm doing it again, I'm procrastinating.
I ended up doing some kit bashing. I did finished the Abbadon conversion in 1 day:
( LOOK MA, NO GREENSTUFF )Some all-around shots:
I thought you were ill or something or you were under the influence of a spirit or something... No GS? Then I saw under the pics and felt better... much more better!
Can't wait to see the Death Guard painted... but first enjoy the Christmas! Merry Chrsitmas and Happy Holidays!
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looking sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeet!
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UPDATE: DECEMBER 26, 2007
This will be brief.
THx for responces...happy holidays, and the next one will be: Happy New Year.
I have some work in progress painting on my guys:
First are the DP's...did the basics for the eyes:
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Next are the 4 obliterators:
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Lastly are some undercoated PM's and 6 guys waiting for their first coat of catachan green:
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I also touched up the eyes on the original PM's I converted, added a thick wash of Gored Red over the eyes, but no pics.
BTW<--- New Camera... Christmas Gift.
I've still got 7 days to finish painting.
My 2 Cents.
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Red eyes... Nice...
BTW Nice Christmas gift... Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays...
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These models are immense.
No one at my local games-workshop has anything remotely as complicated as a single one of these models. Impressed as hell.
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UPDATE: DECEMBER 29, 2007
I did more painting, Did most of all their shoulders, finish undercoats.
First up is the 'finished' Daemon Prince, snake head...
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Second up is the 'finished' Daemon Prince, spiky...
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Next up are all the obliterators at this point...
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These are the squad of PM's as a whole..
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Close up on the 'Necron' plague marine...
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I have the following to do:
Dark Angel green and Catachan Green Washes.
Chaos Black Washes
Should details on PM's
Eyes on the Pm's
Bleach Bone highlights on some of the mutated parts.
etc.
I've finishe a little ahead of schedule so... gonna tinker with the paints i've got on the Pm's.
My 2 Cents.
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Nice work as always... So will we be expecting anything new by next year? ;-)
Happy New Year...
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I'm gonna be working on just these guys through new years and until Jan 5.
After that, then I'll start on other projects...
Like... more plague marines, a greater daemon, my dreadnought daemon prince.. some actual raptors,...etc. etc.
So, now it's just more details on the PM's and playtesting my lists for the Tourney on Jan 5th.
My 2 Cents.
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One of your DPs reminds me totally of a "Big Daddy" from Bioshock, only somehow creepier.
That is a huge compliment.
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Thx for compliments.
Ok, I 'finished' the PM's, and brought them to tourney. THe new Pm's, the old Pm's, the DP's, and the obliterators were my MVP's... god-awesome.
Here's battle rep: (some pics there I suggest a look)
http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=153325.msg1846565#msg1846565
Here's a pic of Pm's:
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They still need a chaos black wash, but now that the tourney is over, I'm gonna be super lazy and skip that for now.
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Ok, next project options:
1. 2 Obliterators
2. Dread--> DP
3. Greater Daemon
4. Raptors
4. Swordsmen --> more PM's
What do you guys think I should do next?
My 2 Cents.
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What... are they exactly? I don't seem much detail in them and they kinda scare me :p
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What... are they exactly? I don't seem much detail in them and they kinda scare me :p
Plague Marines have to make you scared...
Hope to see more of the ongoing project Sanctjud...
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you should try making some armour for your infantry. looking at your battle reports it could have been helpful espically for the khrone stuff ;D
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Well about 'armor', I'm a footslogging kinda guy...
I do have some things in the works:
Rhino+Havoc launcher- Devilfish conversion
Pred Annihilator-scratch built fireprism to pred convertion
Pred Annihilator-scratch built fireprism to pred convertion
And I have a scratch built defiler, I'll get some pics on that guys some day.
Other than that, I don't like vehicles generally, for better or worse...
MORE IMPORTANTLY:
Ok, next project options:
1. 2 Obliterators
2. Dread--> DP
3. Greater Daemon
4. Raptors
4. Swordsmen --> more PM's
What do you guys think I should do next?
My 2 Cents.
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No 3 all the way Sanct... The Greater Daemon...
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Well about 'armor', I'm a footslogging kinda guy...
yea im more of a mechcanised man myself.
i think you should make some lesser and greater deamons every army should have some :D
i find that the lesser deamons are acutally useful if you take a 20 man squad lol
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Ok, so here are some multi-tasking projects I'll be working on:
Greater deaemon
Raptors
Chaos Tau
I'll get some pictures of concept drawings/ initial materials and such...and pictures of my sprue-filer/brass scorpion to get it over with, tomarrow.
My 2 Cents.
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Chaos Tau
You can make a whole lot another army with those and also use the Tau codex... Just a thought.
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HUGE UPDATE: January 09, 2007
First up is the scratch defiler I built... the reason I made it was because of Mutated Hull in the 3.5 edition chaos codex... and my friends dared me to make something out of sprue... that's right, after you finish clipping all the parts to a model, you discard the frame that held the product...
I recycle that frame and use it as material in most of my army.
THe defiler is black legion dedicated, and each leg is dedicated to the four chaos gods, each leg is killing/torturing their ancient enemy. Keep in mind, I made this defiler like 2.5 years ago... so not much greenstuff work.
Anyway Pics:
Side/size comparison Shots
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Top Shot
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Turret Shot
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Nurgle Pic
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Slaanesh Pic
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Khorne Pic
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Tzeentch Pic
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Here's the Greater Daemon sketchs:
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Here's the skeleton of the Greater Daemon, it used to be my WIP warwalker, but I'm recycling it.: Front and Back Shots:
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Here's the sketchs of the Raptors:
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These are the organized bitz, I'm using old metal Death company models as basis for the raptors, considering they are great models, they have grenades and gear all over them...
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Here's the bin of my Dreadnought waiting to become a Deamon Prince:
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Here are my scratch built Eldar Fireprisms: Size comparison and top shots:
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And witht he magic of a turret swap, it becomes my Tau HammerHead:
Size Comparison with my Devilfish with Smart Missile System:
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I think I'm going to focus on the raptors for now, maybe get them built before an upcoing double tourney where I can use them. The greater daemon just requires alot of greenstuff work. And, I'm not sure how I'm going to chaosify the Fireprism/Hammerheads.
Hope you guys like.
My 2 Cents.
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What is that Defiler monstrosity? Even the Chaos Gods would be... pleased as it has all of them on it! Despite the conversion is of my liking the painting could use a touch up...
As for the Greater Daemon from the sketches he looks awesome! Now I am awaiting to see the GS work!
The Raptors will definitely need more GS than usual since you are trying to convert loyalists to traitors...
As for the Fireprisms they look good but since I don't play either Tau or Eldar I can't comment... only the clever conversion from a Necron Scarab!
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I had a similar design for angular Eldar vehicles. Personally I think it works well with the Fire Prism given the prism gun is angular in design. Nice use of the Necron (destroyer?) base for the turret, it works very nicely. The warwalker looks neat as well. keep up the good work
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The Defiler is quite an interesting piece, what'd you use to make it? The paint job looks kind of ugly and sloppy, but I'm guessing it's only a WIP? I love the Tzeentch sorcerer getting eaten, it's a nice touch. The design of the Great Daemon is quite... interesting. It looks kind of hungry... I wish I could do stuff like this for my chaos, but I've got no talent when it comes to planning, I just slap things together til I see it as I wanted or thought I could do.
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Thx for comments.
As for the defiler, I agree it needs a better paint job... but I didn't put too much thought into it... becaus it's so.... big... that there's hardly any reason to use it in an actual game, I only take it out now during Apoc/Mega battles... and it's usually a joke to play around with.....
The last mega battle it sucked up 9 Earthshaker rounds in 1 turn... it refused to die...
In the Apoc. game it was upgraded to Brass Scorpion and had so much fun rolling through an IG gunline.... it took out maybe 3000 points of IG... yea, my opponents had no space, so consolidation wasn't a problem.
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Anyway...more info on raptors.
The idea is... my 'snake head' daemon prince will soon be DE-moted to Raptor Champion... sooooo...
My 9 other raptors are going to end up looking like him.
So, it'll take some GS work, not alot to cover up the loyalist parts of the Deathcompany models
Their heads ar going to be cut down ripper swarms to mimic the snake like head of the DP... and will look hunched down too....then with same head cloth as the PM's...Jet pack is going to be GS like the DP.
Their bolt pistol arms will be Nurglfied... and include a sything talon integrated to the boltpistol and arm.. with an eye on the outside side of the blade like the DP...
The other arm will be the chainswords.
Double edge chainswords will be held in reverse...while the 1 sided chainswords will be held upright.
Melta guns will be cut down bolters with the necron mussel as the barrel of the gun.
I'm still not sure about their base... I want them standing on their base to furthur mimic the DP... so..here's the list:
10 Raptors, Icon of Chaos Glory, 2 Melta guns, Champ + (Lightning claws or powerfist, depending on the list).
As for the Greater Daemon, yea, he's gonna need a whole pack of GS to get him looking anything like how I want him to look.
Damn, I have to say it again, these Deathcompany metal models look so good, so realistic with pounchs, clips, holstered guns, grenades.... they actually look the part of these new edition Space Marines.
ANyway, when I get the chance, I'll start working on the jetpacks.
My 2 Cents.
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Update: January 14, 2008.
I'm actually pushing the raptor project back until after February..
I'll try and finish these Chaos Eldar for an upcoming doubles tournement.
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I still have 249 points I don't know what to do with...
My 7 Cents.
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UPDATE: JANUARY 18, 2008
Well, I broke out the greenstuff and am have .75 of a pack left.
First up is my autarch...
Did some details on the bike. The body is Yriel's body.. the head was cut off and replaced by greenstuff... keeping to plaguemarine theme, we have vents on him and the head gear.
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Secondly, 2 of the 3 warlocks...I did their head gear.. and I did some mutation work on the Right warlock.
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Thirdly, is most of the green stuff work on the Fire Prisms.... keeping the eye theme on them... note: these are my first seriously considered vehicles in my collection.
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Lastly, the underside of the fire prisms and the stand (as an after thought).
I'm very happy with how the stands came out...
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I still have lots of greenstuffing to do for the rest of the jetbikes, and I need to do the eyes and spears on the shining spears..
And then start painting them:
Deadline: Feb 23.
My 7 Cents.
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How do you get everything to look so smooth? You inspired me to scratchbuild some dreadnoughts, but I can't work the GS nearly as good as you >.< Granted, I'm a noob. Lookin' great though! It looks alot better when you try to do something like that yourself and realize how hard it is :P
~dan
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UPDATE: JANUARY 25, 2008
I did some sand work.
The fire prisms are done.
The warlocks are done.
The Guardian Jetbikes are done.
Shining Spears need work
Autarch still needs work
Then painting.
Well, I can't make it to the doubles tourney coming up soon in my area... so my deadline is no longer ... there... so I'll still be trying to finish these eldar up... then get back to the raptors..
Anyway, pics..
CAN YOU BELIEVE IT, THIS PIC CONTAINS A 1250 ARMY... talk about low model count.
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Here's a pic of the 'living' members of this fast responce army I have:
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Here's a pic of the finished greenstuff work on the autarch... he's now waiting for some extra conversion work to make him look like a member of the shining spears... like a super exarch.
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As for the overdose of sand... I'm trying something alittle new.. . using the sand as a rust/corruption medium... gonna see how it turns out.. prob. after painting over it.
That's it for now, I think I'm going to start painting the fire prisms, I love them the most.
*cough* proxy rhino's *cough* ;)
My 7 Cents.
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A lot of sanding done... not so much of my taste but I am sure you will be covering it finely with the paint and make it another fine example of conversion!!!
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You can obviously weild the GS well and your also pretty good with Molds of some sort... Very nice work.
I do have issues with the under-sprue work as its sloppy compared to the rest of the work, and the Paper seams to be very thin and fragile (may need reinforcing). The snad will be made or broke with your paint, so I will not comment on it. Anyway, the army idea looks great and I have seen you toying with these for sometime now, so I do understand the amount of effort you have expended, so Very well done to stick with it.
Looking good.
CaHG
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UPDATE: JANUARY 26, 2008.
Well, I got the basic colors on my fire prisms for a themed fight recently...
They were used as Rhino's+Havoc Launchers in the game:
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The sanding looks ok, looks like an over growth of skin / a skin cancer ... so that's ok.
As for the under-sprue work, I'll eventually do it... but for purposes of getting it done for using them in game, and the conversion contest... it's done for face-value..
I've got around 8500 points to covert for the Conversion contest, can't stay on this probject too long... gonna do more basic paint sceme on the rest of the jetbikes, up to playable standards.
I agree, the paper is so fragile... it's a MONSTER to work with.. .and constantly warps.. I'm gonna say: " It sucks to work with greenstuff + paper ".
More specifically, the eldar dudes are used for Chaos and Eldar... CHaos bikers/raptors for Chaos, and jetbikes for Eldar.
My 7 Cents.
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The GS and conversions are great. But the painting lets them down a bit.
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Yea, I don't paint well, compound this with a converting deadline... around 8000 points worth of conversions due by May... and I'm really lazy in starting stuff...
So for the plague marines, I did them enough so that I could get to use them in tourneys.
And the upcoming Chaos eldar will be painted enough to participate in friendly games... I just want to put 3 colors on them now, then re-visit them later.
As for the the Fire Prisms, right now it does look very bland... but that's the point, I needed 3 colors to participate at a local event... and also, I really wanted to see the basic color scheme on vehicles before I do any work on the other Chaos Eldar...
I've never seriously painted a vehicle before... so I count it as a WIP so far.
Anyway, after I do the initial paint scheme on the jetbikes, I'm back to getting the Raptors done..11 of them now.
My 7 Cents.
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For the sake of your opponents, please give them a Wash with some dark brown at least.... it will need to done anyway to shade them, and if you use a Tank Brush you can probably do it minutes..... Plus anything will help to tone down the contrast in that colour scheme.
CaHG
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I've been visited by Grandfather Nurgle again and have been just wrecked that past couple days...
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So, stuff I'll be working on:
Again, I'm procrastinating on the raptors and pushing them back yet again.
I'll be trying to finish up the 2 obliterator/crisis suits, my 6 noise marines, and the Tau Sniper team.
Before Pics:
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Yea, I've got a list of things I need to purchase:
Green Stuff
Catachan Green
Bleach Bone
and Inks.
As for brown wash... I've used Chaos Black washs... brown would be better? I've got to try it out.
My 7 Cents.
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I've always loved brown washes. I usually do a mixture of black/brown, and it turns out pretty gross.
I'm not sure how that will look on Noise Marines, however.
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A brown wash looks good on anything. ANYTHING!!!
Mr.squid
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Right, Brown wash... what mixture then..? 50/50?
Anyway, some greenstuff update... I've went through a pack of greenstuff... and don't feel like opening another pack until I get around getting some more supplies.
I finished the Crisis Suits/ Obliterators:
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I did 5/6 of the noise marines, just a little dedication to nurgle:
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I also did 3/4 of the Tau sniper team. Notice I switched it around... the snipers are actually flesh and blood and tau spotter is the markerlight drone there.
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So after I finish up the few models in this batch, I'll be starting the greater daemons... after both greater daemons, I may go back the raptors... ;)
My 7 Cents.
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A 50/50 mix is very nice and will give a nice overall effect... If you want you can add a small drop of dish wash liquid to make it go into the crevices!
And I especially like the first picture of the Crisis Suit turned Obliterator... the gun is awesome!
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That first picture of the obliterated is my favorite, too. Those missile launchers, and the right hand looks so awesome at that angle. :D
Anyways, I've actually found that a 50-50 works fine.
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UPDATE: FEBRUARY 09, 2008
Alright, a brief update:
I did work on a variety of things.
First up:
Tau firewarrior, dedicated to Nurgle... I'm not too happy about the head, but I'll see after the whole squad is done.
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Next are the Terminators/Plague marines:
They get some greenstuff lovin'. Side shots of both sides.
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Lastly, I started on the skeleton/muscle layer of the greater daemon:
No base ideas yet.
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My 7 Cents.
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The Greater Daemon and the Tau Firewarrior that went Nurgle are awesome... ok I should say the GD's legs... but I think he will be great. He will be totally out of GS?
I haven't really liked the Terminators. They seem too beefed up for my taste. But that's just me, nothing in the making!
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NOT A REAL UPDATE: FEBRUARY 09, 2008 PART 2
So I went to my local gamer store ( The New England area has a lack of accessable GW stores...).
THey didn't have Greenstuff... ( I only have half a strip of it in reserve)... so I'll need to wait a week for more greenstuff...
Which means the Greater Daemon is gonna be put on hold... yea the Greater Daemon is gonna need alot more greenstuff... i'm doing it layer by layer... so I'm at the muscles right now.
As for the termies...they are pretty old models... just thought to update them a little...since I didn't do them by scratch... their proportions will always be a little off.
Those termies are based on the mini, hunched over spiky terminators of the 3rd edition metal termies...
But, I did get some paint:
*Bleached Bone <--Bread and butter.
*Vermin Brown <---- this a good brown wash color?... I was thinking of mixing it with Chaos black as well for a darker result... otherwise, the lighter brown here would do well to standout in the recesses.... I think..........
Anyway, I had 2 rounds of 40K:
1st: 1850 Chaos vs. Doublewing ( ravenwing+deathwing)
2nd: 1250 Eldar vs. IG
So, I'll be working on those bat. reps. for the next few days.
After I use up my remaining GS, I'll get to painting the Eldar jetbikes, and detailing the fireprisms.
My 7 Cents.
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Update: February 20, 2008
Well, my local game store still doesn't have greenstuff... and didn't have flying bases for my BFG...
Stuff I've worked on:
Greater Daemon-greenstuff
6 Terminators-greenstuff
BFG tryanid fleet-assembly ( I did finish a cruiser)
10 Firewarriors-Nurglefied greenstuff, I actually have a pic:
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Also, since I'm out of greenstuff, I've been gaming, so I have 2 Bat. Rep in the works:
1. Combat Patrol Tau vs. SM
2. 1500 Take and Hold, Chaos vs. SM
My 7 Cents.
EDIT: after the 40KO update.
Thanks for the cool Blog spot.
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LONG awaited update.
March 08, 2008
SO, I've got alot of time but a lack of greenstuff...
I've finished the last 4 'terminators'.
Pics of the 2 I recently did and the rest of them.
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I did some work on my BFG fleet.
2 Cruisers:
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3 WIP Hive Ships:
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I did some work on the Greater Daemons, 2 of em.
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So, I'm all over the place.
7 Cents from the 2007 Chaos Poster of the Year.
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Wow, you certainly do get a fair amount done. Keep up the good work as I alway appreciate the stuff your putting out.
CaHG
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Sanctjud, you inspire me. I'm gonna make my own Daemon Prince - I just hope it looks anything like your worst modelling, or I'll have a hard time explaining what it is...
I still have greenstuff from 2 years ago, and I use it regularly - then again, only in small doses and simple modelling (I just did my first cape a few months ago, and it looks pretty bad. Also, I've done the boots for my Ogre-Kingdoms-Ogryns).
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Update: April 16, 2008
Wow, I've not done any GS in over 30 days...
I've done some GS on the 2 'Daemon Princes' now... no longer Greater Daemons.
The skeleton for this DP used to be my scratch-built warwalker...now it's full daemon. As you can see, added: teeth, tongue, and muscle work.
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This one is based off of my old sentinal spawn...and the lower body is an old metal Hive tyrant chest. I added teeth, built up the muscles and bulked it out...while still allowing some of the sentinal to be seen.
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I've still got to do the arms, the one head, and the details on the back...which includes the wings.
I'm not sure how I'm gonna be doing the wings, I've got to think about them a little more.
My 7 Cents.
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took me a long time to look to find the part of a sentinel, how much greenstuff do you use by the way, you supplier must think you consume the stuff.
the first one makes think of a ork squig.
great (green) stuff
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Sanct I thought you stopped this army... so long ago the last update...
The Daemon Princes are awesome and GS consuming as I see... the work you have done is excellent although I would reduce the size of the teeth a little...
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really nice work sanc
I would reduce the size of the teeth a little...
i thought they looked quiet good, the blessing of the gods are dangerous things :)
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I wouldn't change anything. Oh and there is nothing wrong with 1 update a month (What) get off your but and start updating at least twice a month, OK.... they need paint, they need bodies (or at least parts there of).
Oh and a page with some updated pics of each unit (Or links to them at leatst), and then a couple for the whole army would be nice as well (I hate having to always file back to see stuff)
CaHG
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@moc065
TWICE !!?!?! a month, I'll see what I can do.
Well, I'm not as tech savy, translated: I don't have the WONDERFUL project page where you get to organize everything into neat catagories like: Necron Destroyer, Short Barreled Necron Warriors, etc. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about...
Anyway, I'll see about it... I'm already such a lazy arse to do the greenstuff work, versus hauling my stuff out and taking pics and back tracking for stuff...plus all my stuff is pretty mixed and fragmented projects.
@666_vrykolakas_666
Yea, I did the teeth longer intetionally, there's still the gum line and the 'lips'...so for realism, the teeth are like that...
I've still got the outer skin to put on, all you see here is the 'muscle' layer...I guess...it really depends how modivated/lazy I am...
@Alexander's Son
Yea, I've been in gaming mode recently...now that I'm 'kinda' undefeated...and no body wants any rematches, I'm slowly going back to greenstuff mode.
@Jehan-Reznor
I've used to packs so far on these 'twins'.
When my local GW store was still open, you are right about the GS consuming title.
Ork squig, that never occured to me, but gladly there's more work to be done.
Anyway, thx for the comments, I'll be doing random stuff on the DP's... and continue thinking of ways to represent the wings.
My 7 Cents.
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Anyway, thx for the comments, I'll be doing random stuff on the DP's... and continue thinking of ways to represent the wings.
Giant rocket pack.
I love your work, as you know. Those models are amazing, period. Keep us updated.
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and continue thinking of ways to represent the wings.
There are normal Wings out there... Giant bat wings from Fantasy range and Possessed wings from 40K. Balrog wings...
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Update: April 18, 2008
WOoHOo, I made my Moc065 quota of 2 updates a month !!!!
2 Pics of the DP's I've been working on.
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Picture of both, the right side one has lots of teeth on the side, that's were one of the arms is gonna be.
I finished up the teeth around the 'squig' DP, and bulked up the head area.
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Here's a close up on the hack job of a spine and some more intestines to cover up the rear.
My 7 Cents.
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AWESOME
CaHG
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These all look and fight awesome!!
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Update May 12th, 2008.
A brief update, showing off some work on the Dp's:
The giant squig gets an arm:
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The sentinal DP:
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As for the wings, I've decided to 'wing it'...
I don't want full fledge wings on them... so i went the route of wings coming out of their backs instead...
I've got enough MC's to do a Daemonzilla list with like:
2 GUO
3 DP's..etc.
But I don't really like the list 'that much'...
As for the DP's in general... they are 'TWINS' therefore have many things in common, though are still different... both will have a single arm with a claw on it.
The other side will consist of:
A 3 tier mouth, with 3 tongues.
The 'squig' dp will have 2 skull like things on its right side with 3 tenticles coming out of the guts and stuff under the skulls...
My 7 Cents.
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Your further works inspire me.
A quick question to you, almost entirely off topic:
What size base do standard DPs have? Are those Sentinel bases required?
It's something's that's come up with my own current DP model... I'm about 50% done painting, but I realized I may have made a mistake in its 40mm base.
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but I realized I may have made a mistake in its 40mm base.
dude u should never put a daemon prince on a 40mm base, they dont fit on it properly, the larger bases are MUCH better as it means you bloke doenst then fall over on a hill and chip all the paint off the spikes
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Reminded me of;
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Which is not a bad thing.
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What's that??
Anyway... I'm gonna be 2 upping it on the eyes department.
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My next projects will either be:
1. More work on my Eldar
2. Do the raptors I won't be using in 5th ed.
3. Drawing up plans for uber rhino's in 5th ed.
Hmm...
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It's from an old TV series/comic series... I am forgetting the name! I was seeing that as a young boy!
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Holy Frak those are some amazing conversions! Nice work!
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Thanks.
Brief update, I did some GreenStuff work on the DP's, but I've been using my time drawing up plans for the 4 rhino's I'll be using in 5th ed.
I'll get pics some day, when I get the basic structure set.
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Sanctjud, you disappoint me with an update lacking in photos! I will death you then.
Let's see those ideas on Rhinos!
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wow, i have to say i am in awe right now. i feel that i might just have to get a squad of terminators to be typhus' person guard... after seeing this i kinda think i have to at least attempt it myself. any tips? i am really inspired by this.
also: how did you get to be so good at green stuffing? i mean like all that detail looks almost impossible. how do you manage to do this?
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Well, no pics right now, my camera is recharging its 'uber lucky rolling on my next game' function for tomarrrows game.
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I will describe the rhino though.
These rhino's are for 5th ed, when GW takes away all the reasons why I don’t use Rhino’s now.
My initial idea was to do a siege tower theme, but it was unfeasible for me, too much wood work and would be too tall….. and the problem of ‘using modeling to get unfair advantages in the game’ name calling, etc. etc. etc.
But, since you know my PM’s are on large bases, the Rhino will have to scale the same way… at least for me.
So the rhino’s dimension will be larger than the 2.5 X 5 they are now.
The ‘base’ for each rhino will be roughly 4 X 6, though the actual model will be smaller.
The hatches will be mouths.
The tracks will not be tracks, but Bearers… like you know those old Chinese transports, where there are people holding them up that kind of thing…
So on each corner of the rhino will be two guys holding up the vehicle… each one will be converted Fantasy Orks, all Nurgled up, and each with a Shield to further respresent the AV 11 sides.
On a birds eye view, it’ll look like an eye.
The eye lids will be the spinal structure of the vehicle, while the Iriss will be a spot to place a single mini of the squad that’s embarked on the rhino.
Just a brief Idea of what I’m going for……
And yes, I need more Greenstuff.
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@SHKbravo, it’s nice to see new faces.
Thanks again for the praise.
As for tips:
I suggest drawing out all your plans… it doesn’t matter what level of drawing or sketching you have, just do it.
Having plans helps a lot.
Greenstuff, less is more and always keep the tools wet.
As for more Nurgle stuff… always have the intestines hanging out…
Intestines are really fun:
Roll some thin lines of Greenstuff and roll them around as if they are in a bowl of pasta, then apply them to the groin area of the model….then take a ball of GS half the size of the models belly and pinch the bottom of it, and place it on the top of the groin, then starting from the middle of the blob and use a tool and smooth the borders onto the model…
Something like that.
Nurgle is pretty open ended, and trial and error helps a lot, even errors can turn out pretty Nurgly!
Good Luck!
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that seems significantly easier than i expected the answer to be, but how do you manage to get that texture for the demon prince and various nurgle rotting fleshes?
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Oh... the skin...
That was pretty easy.
You greenstuff over a part you want to make rotten... and then you jackhammer the surface with a flat-horizontal tool, like a Flat-head screw driver... I have a picture of my tools, it's the exact same flat-head screw driver.
You keep jabbing at it making it look like a scarred surface, preferably in one direction.
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Ok ok
Update: June 24, 2008.
First up I used some time to make 5 objective counters...
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Next are some work on the DP's:
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Here are some pics on the progress of the Rhino.... though it's still in the planning phase:
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One of the 32 Rhino Bearers I need to make:
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How are you set for Rhino Dimensions... or do you need some exact sizes (maybe even Pics, etc) to help you get them built.... As you know I have built severel varients "from Scratch" so let me know if you need anything.
The objective Counters are a Great idea, and the DP looks better all the time.
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I have a rough estimate of the dimensions of a rhino.... (heh, you know I don't own any...)
It's ~2.5" x ~5" x ~2" (W/L/H).
But my Rhino's will be noticeably larger, to scale with my 'large' plaguemarines...but, it will still be smaller than it should be, so as not to look like a landraider.
My line of reasoning.... if a local ork play can use an Orkified Baneblade as his battlewagon..... I can use some Rhino's that are larger than normal.
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In my understanding, you can always use something bigger...
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@Jolly Greggor, the Excitable
Yes, bigger is allowed, but it's rumored 'no' in 5th....but what the hell, the rhino is scaling with my plague marines... and I'm pretty happy with them.
I'm making 3-4 of these and it's still WIP.
Note: I don't have plascard, so I'm using old playing cards as the skeleton....and tape for now...
Sigh.....I need more greenstuff.
UPDATE: JUNE 30th, 2008:
Progress on Rhino's:
First pic is of the rhino bearers...dudes that hold up the hull... they have giant shields to act as Av 11.
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The Plague Marine in the middle is there to show size comparison.
The next pic is the current Hull... with the Plague marine stading in the middle as intended, so there's no need to remember/explain who is in which rhino.
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The last pic is of the rear of the vehicle... some work on the hatch/mouth...
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OK, I thought I had the "Cheapest Gamer Alive" award all tied up with my Battle Box Monolith (made from the actual Battle Box); but holy crap, playing cards and GS for rhinos... I like them as they are "Cool" ...But, they look out of scale though, and 5th Ed will shut down anything built intentioanlly to alter game effects (adds too much cover to unit behind, etc)... so be carefull...
PS.. Did you ever check the link I sent you on Templates in regard to scale size, etc...
Cheers...(moc065)
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I know the size.
I looked at the site, but at to sign in or something.
Like I said, I'm making these Rhino's to scale with my plague marines...For all purposes... my rhino's actually do the same for CSM's on their regular bases...
They are tall enough to hide CSM but NOT DP's.
They can hide only 4 of MY plague marines, while the regular rhino can hide 5 'regular' plague marines.
Same Height...so yea.. it looks like they cover more stuff but in fact they cover 'the same'/'less'...
It's too big to be the 'normal' rhino, and too small for a land raider...somewhere in the middle.
Anyway, they do look great for my guys.... and If I can't use them..... I can always just put down 2 Lash Princes, 9 Oblits and 6 slots of plague marines..........
I doubt anyone would care about my rhino's versus that mess of a list.......
At the end of the day, I'm more for Aesthitics than actual..........OMF G POWERGAMER ChEEzERONI GOdFalCoN boat. I like the realism of my Rhino's as well...'real' in terms of what I envision....
Palaquin of a Lord or Sor... HA, I laugh in their face, I got palaquins for my plague marine squads....
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I actually have no official GW events in my area anyway... so that's not a proble.....GW is actually retreating out of the New England area....
There was 3 GW stores, in a month or two, it will be Zero...
Anyway, I spent some of the day painting up past greenstuff work....
I did some GSing on the DP's but not enough done for a pic...
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No more GW's in New England? I've never even been to one, and it might have something to do with my state being smaller than Hawaii... hooray Ocean State!
I love those Palaquins... The work you did on the Orcs is an amazing switchover.
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Geeze the Store I went to by the University was great (I know they are already Dead)... and GW is pulling the rest out too, ... OOuch.. is there an independant where you can get some games still, or are you destined to more of a hobbiest than a gamer ?
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The local gaming group moved to a some place a little further away, but yes it's an independent store...
It's a book store that sells games second....all the Harvard Square stuff (tables, terrain, merchandise) went there.
There's another independent store that specializes in gaming, that has those AWESOME, BEAUTIFUL tables, but it's too far away for me.
So yea, closing GW stores so far:
Harvard, Natick, Liberty Tree...
I'll be gaming, but not as much as I'd like, esp. with a campaign going on.
You know that second game I had with the nice jungle terrain.......there is one public transport there and it takes 1.5 hours to get there..... due to the local train traveling to the commuter rail then waiting for it to crawl to the location and then get off...
I choose to take a cab instead.....round trip: $51.....that's like a box of troopers and blister pack of something...that's like ...... SIX packs of Greenstuff....
/sigh...
Anyway, I don't have enough for pics...
Finished undercoats on some plague marine greenstuffed parts.... they are waiting for some washes.
Finished the beginnings of the lower jaw on the first rhino
And drawing up plans for the DP's to be interchangeable with their 'free' hand to carry a missile launcher to be 'count as' dreadnoughts should my 5th ed. competitive list end up in that direction.
Otherwise, they will be the 'leader' of some lesser daemons I'll have to convert.
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Update: July 05, 2008.
A small update, I did some greenstuff work on the 'Test' rhino.
Top Pic:
The following is some work on the spine design, the round things are capacitors and other random things after I wrecked my old old desktop that I had lying around. Saves me some greenstuff.
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Top Pic with the ppl holding it up:
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Last Pic of Rear:
I finished up the lips on the rear 'hatch'.
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your stuff is always very original.
or should i say; it has the mark of insanity! :P
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I wasn't sure if I was going to like this thing; but its actually starting to grow on me (like a Tremultuous O wound)... Anyway, the "Paper Fangs" and the top accents really do help (a lot) and even though it still needs plenty of GS work, I can see it being pretty cool in the end... The mouth for the rear door is Wickedly good... and I wasn't sure what you were doing with those sticks to start with; but they are excellent now that it has a shape....
Nice job Sanctjud, keep it going as I can't wait to see it done.
Cheers
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UPDATE: July 7, 2008.
Did some more greenstuff, i'm again running out of it... going through the GF9 tubes like crazy.
WIP pics on the 'lesser daemons'....these used to be the plans for Raptors but now are lesser daemons...the fluff is... they 'deepstrike in, but don't have the armor on and charge' ish type of stuff.
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Ripper swarm heads yes, but I'm gonna greenstuff over the signature drapings over the head.
And the scything arms to mimic the snake head Daemon prince of old.
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Next is the Snake head I was talking about, doing an update on them, adding guts... but it's not done yet.
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Here's a pic of 2 rhino's, birds eye view:
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The 'fangs' are there as supports for the side hatches.
A pic of roughly what it looks like, with the plague marine riding in it to show which squad is in which.
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I'm not sure what i want to do with the front, but I think I'll just do a gigantic armored plate in the form of the Nurgle sign...still thinking about what to do.
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Those look horrible and mutated...I LOVE THEM! Honestly, looking through your project blog i really just want to abduct you and hide you under my desk and force you to customise my chaos force :)
- That was infact a compliment...from one sick twisted mind to another
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for the front i think you should do a mouth with a big tuonge coming out of it, that would look really kool :)
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well you allready have a mouth at the back how about the other side of anatomy? how about a vindicator ass cannon :P
well you will think of something gross
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well you allready have a mouth at the back how about the other side of anatomy? how about a vindicator ass cannon :P
well you will think of something gross
Quoted For being Too Funny,,, a nice idea in concept though, as it would fit your Nurgle grotesqueness... (is that even a word)...
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What's your monthly budget on Green Stuff? Like >$150? That's just an insane amount of sculpting. Quite an awesome bunch of conversions, but really all that stuff comes with a price. I want to know how big that price is. (Or I could be totally wrong and missed the explanation of what you're using (I just looked at the pictures))
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Hmmm... I've gone through maybe... 16+ packs of greenstuff so far and am going thought the galeforcenine one...
So.. roughly around $148 +/- $8 per greenstuff pack.
I find it's not that bad...
I got:
*30-40 plague marines from 20-30 SM models.
*1500 point Eldar list with paper and greenstuff.
*10 Wraithguard with just greenstuff and random necron and tau bitz...
I think I'm saving so far..., but I'm not caring too much about saving, more on making things look the way I like em.
Also, most of my models have duel purpose or more.... like my oblits work very well as Tau crisis suits as well.
My 'fireprism' works as a hammerhead, rhino, vindi... as far as 'counts as' goes.
My 'Wraithguard' have been it all:
1. Wraithguard.
2. Plague marines.
3. Spawns.
4. Raptors.
5. Lesser Daemons.
6. Zerkers.
So there's 'some' more savings there.
Rhino's are $30,
I'm spending about $24 in greenstuff and random playing cards to make rhino's that scale with my plague marines.... so this comparison is moot.
Up-dates later today.
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I'm curious to see pics of those other things you've made with GS, especially the Wraithguard. Do you have links?
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Wait...what green stuff are you using? The Kneadtite rolls? Because if you're going through 16+ packs of greenstuff for that few of the models (yes, it's few for that many of your models), I'm assuming ur buying the GW version, which is over priced for what its worth.
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Yes, the expensive GW one's...
I recently got a GaleForceNin tube GS... but I find the GW easier to work with... measure-wise...
Though I do tell anyone getting into GS, 'less is more'....
Update then:
First Pic, the guts on the old DP.
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Second Pic, the 'raptor/lesserdaemons'.
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Third Pic, the 2 RHino tops with eyes.
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Forth Pic, the 'Wraithguard'.
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Auto adjusted.
Not alot done, but I'm working with low GS supplies.
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Something that all this duscussion on GS has brought up is that "Less is More"...
Now seriously, as I have done extensive GS work as well.... Themore GS you use the less cost efficient a project becomes (although the trade off for uniqueness is well worth it in my eyes). Also, GS is not the greatest figure foundation... I seriously recommend that when-ever you "Build" anything with GS, that you use a much Non-GS product as possible... I often use old Sprue to build up the bulk of a figure before I apply the GS over it, I also drill several holes and run Wire into figures to strengthen limbs, etc... and another thing that cut down seriously one working time it to build a few Molds and Jigs... If you get a product to build a coupld strategic "Molds" then you have to sculp a loot less often. I have a "Mold" for Space Marines Beaks, one for Wraithlord heads and/or Jetbike front cowels, one for Necrons Icons, and several for different sized Eldar Gems... I also have a speciifc Jig built to help me cast the products (like the Warithlord Heads) more easily and or to hold stuff so that I can put in a little GS, add the Filler (sprue bits etc) and then finish it off with some more GS; after it hardens, I pop out and then use a little more GS to finish the Scuplt (face for wraithlord)...
Last year I turned out several GS Jetbike Cowels and Wraithlord Heads for others in this manner, and from Sancts pictures I would say that he too is "Casting" certain areas/items to save time (things like the Eye Balls, etc)... He also has several "Filler" matterials being used (which save GS, and strengthen the figure)... So when you look at a project consider some of the Backgroudn work into the cost of the project (but often this work will save you money on future projects).
PS... Brown Stuff is a little more rigid than Green Stuff and there are several other products out there that can save you money as well.
Cheers.
Note to the Op... I am not trying to threadjack here; but, many people don't know that you have two entire armies made from scraps, bitz, GS and paper....
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Yes, I tell 'less is more' to everyone.
And as the history of this thread would suggest, most of my things use a skeleton of sprue as well...
That 'ugly' defiler/brass scorpion is constructed of all sqrue... with notecard paper as the armor... the whole skeleton and bulked out look is sprue... the cannon/head/legs all sprue.
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Update: July 12, 2008.
So I don't have anyone to crush for the summer campaign... so back to Greenstuff.
Here's a pic of the 3 frames for the rhino's.
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Next are the raptors...
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Lastly.... the uber book and the 2 Dp's 'holding' it up...
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Yea.... that book was 6.5 packs of GW Greenstuff.... :'( :'( :'( :'(
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6.25, perhaps? I heard the rulebook was only $50, and I thought GS was $8
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did you just smush capacitors into the greenstuff? well i guess i cant argue with results... really anxious to see how the scratch built rhinos come out. i have to build three or four DE ravens and playing cards are a strong medium i never considered.
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5th costed me 52.50, so.... more specifically: 6.5625......packs of Greenstuff..
Shhhhhh, I don't get taxed on Greenstuff... I get a break cause I buy so much......
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Yes, capacitors shushed into greenstuff... then smoothout the sides to make it look the capacitors and GS are one.
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I did some work on the Raptors and 8 Rhino bearers... but nothing picture worthy yet.
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have you tried buying green stuff from other sites, it will save you alot lol its called kneadatite green, i found a place that sells 36'' of it for £10 where as gws sell 6'' for £5
might save you some more money :)
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I've looked into it before, but I prefer not to order anything online... and rather get the GW stuff at my local store... just to keep that place open... cause the three GW's in my area are all closed.
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Update: July 16, 2008
I did some work on the Raptors, their belly and 4 of their heads.
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They will most likely end up as 'lesser daemons' if I decide not to use raptors in my 5th ed list.
Next up, the Rhino's.
I'm gonna stop at 3 for now... as I'm not too sure how the vehicles will do in my 2000 list...
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As you can see, there are 2 models in the middle of the Rhino, they are the squads that will 'ride' in them... as a counter...
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looking good, sancjud your models make me feel sick for the imperials in a good way!!!! :D
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Ah, my perverted friend. I adore your greenstuffing (have any tips? ;) ) and would like to see those vehicles completely painted.
They truly are... hot.
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amazing. truly amazing work. your work has even brought people from the other boards out to admire and gawk at your work. I just started to fiddle with models (wings on a flyrant) and now i have a level of quality to strive for.
Bravo sir
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I'm gonna stop at 3 for now... as I'm not too sure how the vehicles will do in my 2000 list...
rhinos are very nice in the new edition, i highly recommend them. worst comes to worst the enemy kills it. if you fill it with a fearless unit they walk out and dont really care. otherwise, oh noes a ld10 pin test... just look out not to get those guys boxed in by other rhinos (my friend and i both rhino rush and in the new edition seem to be getting in traffic jams). but yes, please take rhinos. and the raptors are still worth it. there is pretty much no difference there from before. and lesser demons are only good if you bomb them.
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I had my game with them.
I have new respect for Rhino's and Lesser Daemons in this new edition..... though I still think LD's are crap... they will be staying in the list...
I would like more rhino's... but I think the rhino's I'm making now are a pain in the ass to do already, so these 3 will be it for them....
I need to find a faster way to make rhino's, besides buying them/getting more greenstuff....
As for work... no pics.
I finished the Hoods on the 'raptors' and nurglfied all their arms to make the limbs look like they are part of their bodies...
I'm doing some touch up work on the Rhino frames..... adding lengths of sprue to strengthen them lengthwise.
I also have 3 more Daemon Princes 'to be'..... not sure when I'm gonna do them.
I've got a Chaos Lord/Raptor Champion in the works as well, based off of the Sicarious Model.
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UPDATE: July 26th, 2008
Instead of working on stuff I've been doing...
I have a WIP Raptor Champion / Raptor Lord.
Those who know me will know I don't like Lords.... but I don't mind putting one together, at the end of the day, he'll prob. be the Raptor Champion... the Jetback Daemon Prince model is just too big for the job.
The model is based off of the Sicarius Model.
Front view:
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Back view, to see the jetpack, scratch built from a SM pack-pack and the power plant of the SM dreadnought.... but with GS work..:
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Front view with the Icon holder of the Raptors:
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Yea, I'm running out of heads to place around this guy...
Just if you haven't seen yet.... my 2000 points 5th ed. army for now..... using most of the models I've converted so far:
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My 7 Cents.
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Great work! Can't wait to see it all painted! Truly inspiring!
Have you decided on a color scheme yet? Or are you just like me and can't compliment your conversions with a paint brush?
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Awesome conversions so far Sanctjud, watching this thread closely. Your doing Grandfather nurgle proud. Keep it up
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I truly is beautiful. But I want too see some painting too!
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LOL I guess I'm not the only one who loves da greenstuff lol
You have got to be crazy to take on an army and greenstuff each guy lol, results freagin cool though.
I still do feel like sending my eldar to kill them all :p
or my DE...maybe ...if they're bored maybe...
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Say, have you ever gotten around to finish the Abbadon you made a while back?
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Yea, my painting sucks, so I'm putting it off...
Abbadon is waiting for greenstuff... and I'm prob. never gonna use him.... so way at the end of the list.
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NOTE: This is no longer about Abbadon... just a joe Sons of Horus marine that's getting a promotion to Lord/sorceror....
I made this model a while back, for a WIP White Dwarf article about the Pre-Heresy Sons Of Horus.... but the article tanked when the guy doing it was fired...
Anyway, I made this model with NO, I repeat NO extensive greenstuff, and is IMO pretty accurate to one of the drawings in the Horus Heresy Artbooks....
I'm re-painting him to use as a multi-purpose Undivided Lord/Sorc. for my army.
First pic is everything I'm working with right now, backpack, sword, and cloak...
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I'm not sure where I want the sword.... either on his hip, or behind him under the cloak.... I'm prob. going to put it on his hip.
The next pic is a close up on his still drying black 'under coat' over the old paint scheme that ended up looking really bad....
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Otherwise, I'm in gamer mode, and still putting off doing the Rhino's...
My 7 Cents.
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God Sanctjud... I sincerely thought you have stopped building your army and only playing with it!
Nice Abaddon... realistic to the sketch and lovely base!
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You know Sanct I'm actually liking your stuff! :D
And you know what else?
I am gonna use my 100th post to say Well Done mate!
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Update: August 26, 2008.
Muahahhahaha I’ve restocked my greenstuff cache, and got a box of Corsairs for my Dark Elves army for WFB.
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These are the Rhinos I’m franticly trying to finish for the upcoming Doubles tourney… so I’m cutting a lot of corners for now…. But don’t worry, I’ll revisit them afterwards.
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I had extra Greenstuff, so I started my next 2 daemon princes…
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Another Daemon Prince in progress.
The Front:
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The Back of second DP.
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By the time I finish these guys I’ll have 6 Daemon Princes…+1 more from the Balrog waiting for Greenstuff as well, for a lovely 7 Daemon Princes for apoc.
My 7 Cents.
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this army keeps getting better!
loving the DP's
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ahaha you greenstuff stealer XD
I went to the gw and took all their greenstuff, the manager was like hey wtf man you're stealing all my greenstuff!
(it was the last 3, previous time I bought 3 packs too)
7 demon princes? How big do you plan on playing lol ?
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seven princes.... really that necessary? i think that might just be overkill.... granted they look amazing, i still just dont see ever needing that much at all.
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keep up the god work, 4 packs of GS that is barely enough i think.
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The work on the rhino's is fine.... touch them up later and get gaming with them. 7 DP's is hardly enough; They will face the Uber Council, + the JB Council, and multiple Fire Dragons and Jetbikes, so you better get at least one more. Just kidding....
Looks good.
CaHG
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Alright, so... I did some work on the rhino's to get them Tourney ready.... seems like they were not recieved well behind my back, but whatever....
Here's some pics:
The pair I used at the tourney:
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A close up:
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Now, I'm super turned off after the tourney, so I'll eventually finish them, but I'm starting up WFB, here's an old model I have that I'm testing out the paint scheme:
Front:
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Back:
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I don't know what to do about the scales, I don't know what color to use to highlight them... any suggestions...?
My 7 Cents.
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BLEACHED BONE!
Just do a mix (Bone + whatever you've used) followed by a highlight of Bone. It's always the best choice.
7 Daemon Princes? You're a Devotee of Nurgle! Nay, a Herald of Nurgle! You are Nurgle's favorite gamer, without a doubt. 7 is only the most divine number you could possibly get... Or you could do 70 more, to make it 77. Don't stop there! You need 7 million, 7 Hundred and 77 Thousand, 7 Hundred and 77!!! PROVE YOUR WORTH, Sanctjud! You have been challenged!
Butt srsly, luv teh Rhinocerz0rz. Eckstra Secks.
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Alright, so... I did some work on the rhino's to get them Tourney ready.... seems like they were not recieved well behind my back, but whatever....
why? not40k enough?
(anyway if you put someting over the assault gunt thingie, you could use it as siege machine for fantasy)
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Right-o.... so I'm procrastinating... sort of in gaming mode, and losing interest in WFB... I might build up to a Mordhiem warband..but that's as much as I'm invested into it....
I think I'll make some purchases soon:
-3 Rhino's
-Defiler
-Tau Piranha-thats right, I've got some inspiration with a piranha and defiler combo kits.
So, some more coversion projects...not only that... I'm thinking of doing a display board... so as soon as I have my base I'll draw some stuff out....
My 7 Cents.
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3 Rhinos? BUT WHY?!
About WFB: If you had only used the Bleached Bone, that wouldn't've happened.
Defanhaler sounds fun. Try to keep a step-by-step for those of us less genius... I too want to build one, it'll give me the Crabs my army needs.
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Well... I'm prob. upping it to 3-4 rhinos... as to why I'm getting them.... well..... I want to kick ass and take names in tourneys with my mech Death Dealers...... as my 'walking' Rhino's they are not 'legal' at my local tourneys..... so I'll either live with footslogging in a competative environment.... or:
Covert some 'legal' rhino's and shove it down their thoats.....anyway,.... the covertion will prob. end up looking like the faces on the 'walking' rhinos'.....
My 7 Cents.
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Well... I'm prob. upping it to 3-4 rhinos... as to why I'm getting them.... well..... I want to kick ass and take names in tourneys with my mech Death Dealers...... as my 'walking' Rhino's they are not 'legal' at my local tourneys..... so I'll either live with footslogging in a competative environment.... or:
Covert some 'legal' rhino's and shove it down their thoats.....anyway,.... the covertion will prob. end up looking like the faces on the 'walking' rhinos'.....
My 7 Cents.
That is gross, as your converted Rhino's are way better than the Stock GW crap... serioulsy... is this their rule on all scratchbuilds or did they target you ?
CaHG
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not sure if it would be possible (but your GS ability could overcome the challenge) to make the tracks of the Rhinos out of bodies; meaning corpses holding arms and legs together to form the tracks.
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I'm voting for buying or scratchbuilding some "proper" Rhinos. Things that look like tanks, I mean.
There's nothing wrong with your current ones, but they look too much scratchbuilt, as in, I can clearly see you've just slapped together some cardboard/plasticard/similar and batteries, added a few cool dudes (the only part of them that hasn't got the 'scratchbuilt'-look).
Like, compare the Daemon Princes you just began to build to the Rhinos. Which one looks better?
If you really don't want to dump the current Rhinos, at least make them more complicated, as in, curved/angled armour (it's all flat at the moment, except for the shields of the carriers), rivets, bolts, some mechanics and so on.
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Perhaps take some real rhino's, and give them a ton of battle damage, and have them be carried around like your current ones? You could have one of the treds from one trailing behind them, stuff like that? Maybe have the turret ripped off of one and being held casually by a tentacle-ish thing?
I very much enjoy the majority of your work, but I think I have to cast my vote in the column of not really liking the look of the rhino's. I think the idea is *FANTASTIC* to have them carried around, and I think you've done an awesome job with the figures actually doing the carrying. I'm just not very enthusiastic about the rhino's themselves. I don't "get" them. A trashed actual rhino up on the shoulders of these guys would make for a much cooler model IMO.
The rest of the army looks amazing though!
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Well, to defend my 'illegal' rhino's... they are not done....and they'll end up with being more fleshy all over with no card board in sight.... but no matter how many times I say "WIP" it just isn't enough...
Anyway, they have gone down on the 'to do' list.
I just purchased 4 Rhino's and a defiler.........(legal ones)..... so I've got those guys to do...
I'm working on finishing up the 2 DP's I started, and the next two I've begun.......
But the new piranha/defiler is up first.
I don't have any games or convertion pics this long weekend due to my Camera being 'borrowed' over the long weekend.........so no pics to show off my sexy defiler.... pre-greenstuff....
My 7 Cents.
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We demand Pics... can't wait to see this nasty little toy.
CaHG
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Woohoo: Update October 18th, 2008.
First up is a picture of a Rhino waiting for greenstuff.
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Next is a size comparison, just for reference:
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THIS is NOT going to happen:
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Mr. Sexy D right here, waiting for greenstuff as well:
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Everything is still WIP but at least it's all legal...
My 7 Cents.
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Nice to see some solid updates.... the Defiler is wickedly cool
CaHG
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I like that Defiler a lot. Surprising how many Chaos/Tau Defiler kitbashes there are. Probably because it looks so cool?
OHMIGOD LOOKATME I STARTED PAEG 10!!!!!!!!!111eleveneleven
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I like that Defiler a lot. Surprising how many Chaos/Tau Defiler kitbashes there are. Probably because it looks so cool?
OHMIGOD LOOKATME I STARTED PAEG 10!!!!!!!!!111eleveneleven
Yes, yes you did Ô sneaky one.
I really like the kikckass Defiler, you can clearly see the anime like 'realism' that surely inspired it. Of course, anime like and T'au are much the same.
Good work the Sanct, can't wait to winess the nasty things your GS work will actually do to it.
Starky
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I like that Defiler a lot. Surprising how many Chaos/Tau Defiler kitbashes there are. Probably because it looks so cool?
OHMIGOD LOOKATME I STARTED PAEG 10!!!!!!!!!111eleveneleven
Yes, yes you did Ô sneaky one.
I really like the kikckass Defiler, you can clearly see the anime like 'realism' that surely inspired it. Of course, anime like and T'au are much the same.
Good work the Sanct, can't wait to winess the nasty things your GS work will actually do to it.
Starky
ok, so how the hell did you notice that?
btw, sanctjud, love the conversions. i know i've gone through my share of GS, but thats mostly for fixing up conversions, yours are absolutely amazing.
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SHOW ME HOW, YOU SEXY GOD-LIKE CONVERTER of DEFILE-ATION!!!
Really like it. Has more of a scorpion feel to it than crab, but still inspiring none-the-less.
I <3 Crabs.
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Right-o. February 8, 2009.
I’m slowly turning away from gaming mode…’Vassaline’ is great and all to get my gaming out…but I want to go to my LGS and rock out and kick ass on the table.
So I’m back, and I’m setting up to converting a new army. I’m sure I’ll get bored during the new project, so fear not the old projects (like the 7 daemon princes) will be touched upon as well.
As for the sexy defiler, I did some leg work, adding cards to simulate armored plating, but it didn’t turn out well (too small) so I’ll have to rip them off and try again.
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So far, I’ve decided to start a SM biker army, with the ‘pre-heresy’ theme to my Death Dealers...
The army list will mirror my Death Dealer competitive lists.
The idea of Biker ----- > PM’s in Rhino is that…..being EVEN MORE bloated + FNP, they had to take the rhino instead of staying on bikes.
The weapon loadouts (4 melta and 2 flamers over 3 troop choices are the same as well…with obligatory fist).
The attack bikers will mirror the oblits…obviously it’s a huge difference, but their anti tank potential is equally deadly. With the lack of Anti-infantry, I’ve added the hvy bolter attack bikes to supplement the MM Attack bikes.
Etc. etc.
As for the modeling aspect. I wanted a ‘mounted’ theme.
The captain (funds permitting) will be based off of the WFB Khorne Lord on the Juggernaut.
The Main body of bikers ( Vet, special weapons, and 2 body bags) will be based off of the new plastic WFB Chaos Knights.
The last 3 joe bikers will be actual SM bikers.
Multi-melta attack bikers will be Bloodcrusher mounted SM with hand held MM, with….wrist mounted TL bolters… or shoulder mounted, or bloodcrusher mounted, don’t know yet.
The hvy bolter attack bikes will be normal attack bikes.
The 3 joe bikers in the troop choices and the normal attack bikes would be easily recognized as combat squads, as they are all ‘present Biker models’…as the combat oriented bikers would be mounted and such.
So that’s going to be 1500 points… the price tag for stuff will be …. Around….$530 based on GW prices….so that’s a pretty penny, So I’ll be shopping around for better deals on different sites.
But I’m a lazy one, so I might just throw the wad of cash at GW.
So far, I’ve purchased one bloodcrusher, to test the waters on the viability of converting to a mounted dude with a mutli melta…….etc.
So far, the left hind leg refuses to be super glued to the body… so I’ll have to break out the green stuff, and at the same time close up the seems all round the legs.
I’ve had to cut the regular Joe CSM legs up, to position them into a ‘riding’ postion. I’m not sure what sort of saddle I’ll have to put on the crusher.
So, for the pose of the rider, I’m thinking… one hand hoding onto the reins. The other hand is grasping the neck of the multi-mleta in a rested upright position. As if surveying the scene.
My main question so far, is: What do you guys think the TL bolters:
*wrist mounted on one hand, under the arm or on the side.
*Wrist mounted, one on each, under the arm or on the side.
*TL bolter in hand.
*attached to blood crusher.
*A TL-bolter strapped onto the back of the bloodcrusher/holstered.
*shoulder mounted on the Rider or Crusher.
*attached so some sort of CC weapon.
*attached to the Multi-melta for some kind of uber weapon.
Second question: what sized bases would you use for the regular bikers.
*baseless
*cavalry bases
*GW bike bases (cavalry bases, but rounded)
*GW make your own bike bases (termy base thickness, rounded)
*Gale Force Nine oval bases
Sorry, no pics yet, let me get the sexy but annoying to set up Bloodcrusher first.
My 7 Cents.
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Very intersting work. I love the way they are turning out.
Very inspirational.
Cheers.
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For the Bikers I would suggest Cavalry bases with the addition of a regular base (cut in half) and added to each end.. Thus rounding it out; but not making it too "over sized"... {GW Biker Base, but home made}
You could keep the them going on the HQ dude by using a Termie size round base and filling it out with Cavalry base as you mentioned... It would make him more impressive; and most guys wouldn't think it too much for one figure to be a little over the top... Although the use of such a large base on an entire army would be game altering and many would call it modelling to exploit the rules.
The Weapon for the HQ dude could also be "uber" as it would allow for modeling potential and you will have enough regular sized guns throughout the rest of the army..
I do suggest looking for internet deals when it comes to the purchase, as some not to painted but already part built guys can often save cash and time... And Green Stuff as you konw already, can be your friend.
I serioulsy wish to see some WIP pictures of this project.. so get em in here... and I wish you the best of luck with it...
PS.. Maybe a new thread is in order as well, as the SM Bikers will certainly not be Death Dealers.
CaHG
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UPDATE FEBRUARY 16th, 2009
About basing, here's a pic of the WIP base and the Bloodcrusher, erasing all khorne symbols at the moment...like under the hooves, and the left though will be a 'saddle bag':
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Still thinking how the weapons will go.
So far I've to the Flamer sword Idea for the flamer. Sort of like the Witch Hunters Brazier of Holy FIre, but it'll be something suitably chaotic.
wrist mounted TL bolters might just be 2 bolt pistols with GS over the top, to mimic the Grey Knight guns.
This is really the Death Dealers's Blog, so I say the Preheresy of them will stay here....plus I do work on other stuff too, I rather consolidate the info here.
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I have a treat, I had extra GS, and used it on the cover of one side of my earphones, personalized earphones:
Cover off:
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Cover on:
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I did some GS work on the fattie Daemon Prince, got his legs on, he can stand and did his belly and thigh work, still WIP.
Standing.
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Belly/leg work:
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The end product will have him walking forward, Sword in right arm, running his sword across his palm, envenoming the blade....or something like that.
My 7 Cents.
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Nurgly earphones? I'm sure he would approve.
By the way, are you GSing over Sentinel legs? Why the hell? Couldn't you just have, you know, built the frame of the legs from plasticard or straws or something? That's what I'm doing with my Prince of Nurgly goodness. Why waste a pair of good Sentinel legs?
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great job, as always, is it safe to wear those earphones? some peoply may drag you to a doctor because of your Ear-infection
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@Jehan-Reznor: Yea ear-infection would be an understatement. ;D
@Snike: I'm sure he would.
I like the theme, as you can see, the original DP is the snake head, everyone else has possessed some sort of techy thing.
Gun Drones, 2 Sentinals, 'War Walker', dreadnought...
I'm not gonna cover all of the leg, just need to get the thigh muscle on. THe arms will use sprue as a skeleton and build it up, but the legs have to be sentinal legs.
I'm not wastng the legs, I'd never use it for anything else. ;)
My 7 Cents.
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UPDATE: MARCH 1, 2009.
Right, so more green stuff work:
The Compelted Left earphone and starting right one:
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Next up is a wing I'm experimenting with:
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I worked on the right arm of an older Daemon Prince, a skull like stump or something:
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The recent fatty Daemon Prince stands:
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And his back side:
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Lastlye, all 7 Daemon Prince waiting for more Nurgle Lovin':
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My 7 Cents.
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Well, I do have to say:
Your greenstuff skills are absolutely impressive. Those demons look very, very good.
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Yup I have to agree... Sanctjud has such great Greenstuff Skills that he hardly
uses needs paint.
Seriously, those are looking great, and you should try and do a tutorial for that second earphone... others would love to see a play by play on how you greenstuff.
CaHG
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Seriously, those are looking great, and you should try and do a tutorial for that second earphone... others would love to see a play by play on how you greenstuff.
Yes, I am jealous,. A tutorial would be very nice indeed. And do actually you sculpt something that isn't Nurgle? I would be curious to see more 'straight' stuff, so to speak.
And noting like Nurgly earphones to seduce the unwary, as Santjud well knows...
Starky
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Update: April 7th, 2009 (Yes I choose the 7th for a reason)...it's 7...
I'm a lazy dude, and am on the brink of actually gettin the rest of the models I need from GW...though it's cost $400+...which makes my wallet weep.
But I am getting some bargain items:
Ravenwing box set.
3 WFB Chaos Knights is $66 for 15 'bikers'.
15 'REAL' bikers would cost $225.
The bulk of the cost comes from the 5 Bloodcrushers and 4 attack bikes...
Anyway, I did some work on bases.
Bikers will be on cav bases with infantry bases to get the rounded edge. I still need to GS the gaps between them.
I've chosen Mechwarrior clicks bases for my 'attack bikes' as I was too lazy to make more bases the way I made them biker bases.
1500 points of bikers fits on that tray....
pic:
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Next up is a pic of the WIP for the display board for my biker army (as you can see there is alot of love for the biker list, but Grandfather Nurgle will always be around). Yes it's a Nurgle themed Biker list using Loyalist Codex, in case you didn't know.
The display board is pretty much on the drawing board, not too commited as it's pretty clithe.
Pic:
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So far I'm content with the direction of the bikers, but I can't seem to nail down an idea for converting the Hq.....sometimes I can't sleep at night pondering about it....
The easiest ideas are ( Riding a WFB Carnisore or a Centaur conversion) but I'm not too happy with either.
Another idea was robotic legs (much like them Zero G hopper things) and make him taking long strides.
He's got a Storm Shield and relic blade.
My idea was to use the old Electoo theme to be the relic blade, like a biggish discharge of some kind of modeled lightning in his hand or around his fist...
Another is just to keep it simple with a big sword...a la Bleach, or rip a weapon straight from World of Warcraft.
/shrug.
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@tryanotherone: Thank you.
@moc065: Love the first line (paining is my bane, too bad I have to do it).
@Starky: I'm trying to finish up the earphones for the local Anime Convention so, I dont' know about a tutorial on them... but I'll give it some thought, next time I do some eyes/spines/'vents'....etc...as you know, I'm super lazy with things.
My 7 Cents.
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I actually like the Chaos Cheesy display board (its cool in a non-loyalist way, screw the Imperium)... You could go with Hardboard and smaller so ti could double as a movement Tray (for getting between tables, etc)
The bases look good, and thats a lot of work (and I know, sense I am doing something simular) good idea on the Larger ones (I'm stuck with converting ~ because I already started down that route)
Anyway, thanks again for the update.. and Painting is your Bane.. but stick with it, as its not as tough as many people think. PM me if you need ideas or help on techniques to speed things up, etc
CaHG
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Thx, so I've put in my order for stuff.... ughh.... I can hear my Amex weep.
So, the basics of the army is good.
Some issues I'm on:
Weapon distributions (wrist mounted TL bolter or holstered TL bolter.) but swords and spears.
Was thinking bikers get spears/lances, horses get swords..
A mix or alternating.
Meltas: Weapon attachment, holding it instead of weapon, holstered to steed or rider.
FIsts: real power fists, glorified mace/club, electoo theme.
Flamer: flaming sword, or chemical spewer....
My main issue is I don't have any concrete ideas on the HQ model.
Captain, Bike, Relic Blade, Storm Shield.
*ONe Idea was a mechanical centaur look to it.
*mechanical legs with long strides.
*mounted on a juggy as well (but a bit too many)
*mounted on a jetbike (a la Master of Ravenwing look)
*mounted on a Carnosaur...a bit big.
*just use Archaon with a TL bolter strapped on somewhere...
*something you guys can suggest, one of these or something new?
Edit:
You think this is good Green stuff price vs. amount you get:
http://www.gregdorrance.com/kneadatite®-blueyellow®-epoxy-putty-tape-ribbon-epoxy-roll-green-stuff-p-1166.html
Gotta highlight copy/paste.
My 7 Cents.
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*mounted on a Carnosaur...a bit big.
That gets my vote, as you could tirm the fat here and there to get it to a decent size... throw it on one of the larger bases you have (attbike size) and call it done as hte base will help reduce the overall size appearance as well.... although the Shield would need to be a one-off as well to really pull it off (Nurgle it out, you have the skills)
PS did you see the size of rhe Forgeworld Ork Warboss on Bike (he is massive and fits on the Same attbike base your using anyway).. so your champ wouldn't be too uber.
CaHG
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Yea, so... I might have to take back the carnosaur comment.
I think I might just convert something instead. An animal like creature would be something new.
Also:
MUUHAHHAHHAHAHAHHA
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White box is 3 Chaos Bike (chaos command sprue thingy)
Right-o, time to get the bases done.
Anyone have any suggestions on basing, I know it's pretty broad question, but I'd like to bounce some ideas.
My 7 Cents.
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But what are you building exactly?
mounts instead of bikes?
some crazy bike and mount mixed "slurgle's speed fiends"?
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But what are you building exactly?
mounts instead of bikes?
some crazy bike and mount mixed "slurgle's speed fiends"?
Yes, I'm wondering that myself...
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Sanctjud, it is really incredible the kind of hard cash you can get by selling your body to old grannies...
And do you got all the stuff you need or the whoring isn't finished yet?
But what are you building exactly?
mounts instead of bikes?
some crazy bike and mount mixed "slurgle's speed fiends"?
A 'Count As' SM biker army using the actual SM Codex, but basically the Death Dealers on Bikes. But I am sure the Pestiferous One is going to explain it all much better that I could ever...
Now get to work Sanct, you got some greenstuffing to do! ;)
Starky
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So the Slurgle are actually just dressed up vanilla SM... figures.
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@jawmonkey and Thalandir:
They are count as CSM (cross heresy), using SM biker rules.
Real Bikes are teh secondary Combat Squad with Hvy bolter attack bike.
Chaos Knights are the primary combat squad with Vet and 2 specials.
Attack Bikes are Hvy bolter Attack Bikes.
Bloodcrushers are Multi melta Attack Bikes.
@Starky:
Grannies are the money makers.
I heard you pay well, I can call up Wyddr and Objectionator and we can have a foursome.
Anyway, no working on it today, there's a Doubles Tourney I'll be going to and taking pics, not actually participating though, sadly. My Chaos army is 100% illegal. They don't allow my 'rhinos'. SO I declared I'd take just 40 plague marines for a 'fun' list, and they refused my termy based plague marines....so ho-hum.
My 7 Cents.
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Is this at Pandemonium? They're not big fans of you there huh :(?
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It's not that.
Meh, I don't go to tourneys that much to begin with.
The termy bases were tolerated last time, but this tim a higher up on the 'leader' chart means tighter rules, I'm not gonna get into it though.
But I go arranged games among close gamers anyway, but it's great to start the biker army.
Hard to refuse these guys when I'm done with them.
My 7 Cents.
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Really kinda dumb about base sizes though. What does it get you? Hit by more blast weapons and a 1/4" when you get out of a transport. Boo hoo.
As for the biker army, looking good, post some more pictures when you're done with them please.
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Wow, that a crap load of GW gear to work on at once... reminds me of my basement though... as I too have too many items to work on...
The base thingy is weird, as 5th says clearly that the bases should not be changed to gain an advantage... and movement out of a Rhino is an advantage, so is larger spread on footprint, etc. etc... although that also comes iwth equal disadvantages.... In my area they are cool with it; but not in tournies either... Some high ranking dudes are there to win, and they need all the help they can get still, so I sympathize with you Sancty...
Lots of Pics when you get going though, OK
CaHG
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What about blue tacking small bases under the bigger one you uses Santjud? You get enough height under your big bases to get the tape under and take the measures from the small ones - Count the large base sides as part of the small bases decoration.
Sure it is clumsier to disembark from vehicles (you could make paper marker for 2"radius like on Vassal) and they gain in height, but hey, that way you could uses them I guess...
Starky
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Nah, I'm not changing my old models... they look like idiots... much like the Daemon Prince model on a termy base... and would wobble even with a wieght under the base.
Hell, now I've started SM, I have 30 count as TH+SS Terminaors ;D
With 7 Daemon princes thrown in, in a apocalypse fight. ;D
Here's a pic of the preparations.....UG HHH a whole weekend of clipping, I haven't even used the exacto to rip off the the extra sprue on the each piece.
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The plastic bag on the bottom left if gonna be Objectionor's Landspeeder.
My 7 Cents.
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about the plage marines, nice work man, they look ill
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So yea, just so that it doesn't look like your necromancy, I'll have some pics on updates in an hour or two.
Thanks for the shout out enlargingcloud.
Updates include:
-Finished Nurgle Earphones.
-A sample base for bikers.
-Some rubberbanded horsies.
My 7 Cents.
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So yea, just so that it doesn't look like your necromancy, I'll have some pics on updates in an hour or two.
Thanks for the shout out enlargingcloud.
Updates include:
-Finished Nurgle Earphones.
-A sample base for bikers.
-Some rubberbanded horsies.
My 7 Cents.
We look forward to it, Sanct ;D
~Thal
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Update June 14th, 2009.
Quick pics.
Here is the sample base for bikers...though I might not do it as it would cost me $$ to get enough GS for the job:
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Next up is the completed Earphone:
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And the pair of them together:
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And yes, I wear them everywhere.
Tzeentchling dropped by my gaming group and immediately identified me...which was pretty funny.
My 7 Cents.
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Bike bases are interesting, do you intend to add extra material once they are painted? (bushes, stones, ect...) And... have you begun work on the Juggies?
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And the pair of them together:
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Khorne's balls, the earphones are wondrous, great, GREAT work Sanctjud! ;D
You say Tzeenchtling imediately identified you... by the earphones? I'd like to see the funny looks when 'normal' people see you with theses...
Starky
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Can you say Milleputty.... its cheaper then Green Stuff and works just as well for things such as Bases.
Cheers.
Nice Headset btw.
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Spackle also works well for bases, and you can get it in a tub size, and it's cheap. Just a thought. :)
Edit: And yeah, Starky, I remembered seeing these in the proto-stage, so given that I knew where he played it was not hard to pick him out. To be fair, they don't look that out of place among gamers. ;D
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Roughcoat works wonders for bases! even if you paint over the grey, roughcoat, or roughcoat on top of sand is FTW. Roughcoat = easy concrete base if thats what you want.
Also looking at basing, this thread may also be intresting for you. It has lots of advice in.
http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=184486.0 (http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=184486.0)
I love those earphones BTw, and i would love to see the looks strangers would give you while wearing them!
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I tired the Spakkle today on my Cardboard Bike bases... (Yes I took pics but give me a day or so)...
anyway, the Spakkle (Drywall compound) was uber cheap, and it worked well enough (needed 2 coats to fill in corigated edges ~ extra 5 minutes work for 12 of them)... I did a quick and dirty road theme to try and show how it would work... and all it required was to wait 5 minutes after I applied the Spakkle so that I could work the compound with my scuplting tool...
Anyway... let me get the pics and come right back.
OK, I'm back...
Here they are pre Spakle... Notice I made them from 2 layers or Carboard and some PVA glue (cheap)
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Then the first coat of Spakle (just the edges)..
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Then the second coat of spakle.. wait 15 minutes to cure... butter the tops, wait 5 minutes to set a little... carve them up with a sculpting tool (Sancty can do better I am sure)... wait 5 more minutes (write some internet crap ~ take pics of as they dry).
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They will now get a "Glue over" to seal them up, maybe add some sand, etc... and onto the Knob Bikers they go.... It took no time what so ever Sancty, and its about as cheap as you can get... PS... while they are curing you can really add a lot of detail if you like.
Cheers
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Ha, great head phones mate! :D
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UPDATE July 17, 2009
@Moc: nice bases, much more economical than me.
@The Unborn: thanks, sadly, as soon as I finished my headphones they started to malfunction. I still use them, but the wire is loose to my right piece, so sometimes it’s an inconvenience to play around with the wire and jam it back in.
And the cusion for the earphones is wearing off and fraying.
Essentially, Nurgle’s Rot was successfully cast on my earphones and they are decaying :D :D
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Not too much done sadly, busy at work.
First up are the SM Biker bases. I’m happy-ish with them, on the fence, but that’s most likely how they will be for the rest of the guys.
The first batch:
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Close up on attack bike base:
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On an entirely separate note:
I’ve been looking into another project for my Eldar, but with actual GW models and not paper airplanes.
The army list will be Eldar, but the model used will be:
1. Tau Crisis Suit Box.
2. Necron Warriors Box.
Basically, I’ll kit bash the Tau Crisis Suits into ‘count as’ warlocks.
The Necron Warriors will be the Guardian Jetbikes.
Planned purchases for around 1500 are:
14 Tau Crisis Suits
3 Necron Warrior Boxes
Totals around 385
The list the models will create:
Farsser on Jetbike, 12 Warlocks on Jetbikes, 6 Shrieker Guardian Jetbikes, 12 Guardian Jetbikes.
The theme to try and make this work is:
Aeronautica Imperialis…. But in 40K.
Basically it’ll be a whole bunch of gunships.
So far the classes I have for the individual models include:
Warlocks are Frigates, these guys will be created from the majority of the Crisis Suit body.
Guardian Jetbikes will comprise of Fighters and Bombers (no real rules difference).
Shriekers are Corvettes.
Each base of the joe GJB will be modeled with 3 ‘fighters’.
2 Fighters and 1 bomber on each base, taking up positions that would outline the regular GJB.
So, the overall image will be a swarm of ships, it’s not a high model count army, but the smaller scale and 3 fighter single base make it look that way.
First for pics, the Warlock/Frigate at various angles (paper clip aside):
Top:
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Side :
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Side (weapon focus):
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Front:
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Underside:
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My favorite part: the way the underchin gun slopes into the the body of the ship:
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These are still WIP, I still don’t know how I will finish off the top portion.
I know the Embolden and Enhance Warlocks will be different.
I’m thinking the embolden or enhance warlocks will have that radar/saucer dish looking thing on top. Prob. enhance, the radar tracking kinda equates to better ‘avoiding’ and ‘initiative’ in combat.
Speaking of combat, if the fluff portion is needed, I’ll say their ‘combat’ is just close range straffing runs or something.
Now the question of BASING.
What do you guys think is the most efficient size:
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The most likely outcome:
Terminator sized bases for the ‘Warlocks’, while the smaller fighters will be swarming the small flying base base.
Essentially these are ‘the bases that come with the kits…’ sort of rationale.
Just in case the fighter/bombers are comprised of these old models:
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I don't believe in starting new projects, I say just complete the old one and then move on, or drop it.
That being said, those gunships look awesome. Seeing an entire army of those would be entirely sweet.
Biker bases are good, like the wood, curious to how they turn out...
Keep it up.
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I agree with Tauir, bases look good - But won't you have problems at your LGS with custom bases? I thought you have had your fill with your Death Dealers... :-\
As for the gunship force, I think it's a great idea but also a somewhat time consuming project, I hope you will get through this one, as an entire army of these - Wow!
Starky
P.S. It sucks fro the earphones, is there no way to repair the things or make a swap to new ones?
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The regular biker bases the 1" think ones are legal, exact same dimensions as GW round cav bases.
The MW Base is actually the same size as the Attack bike, so no issues.
The problem with the Death Dealers for my gaming group is that the Plague marines and rhinos were blatantly larger footprints.
Infantry base -> Termy base.
Rhino -> +50% Width and Length.
Etc.
Plus, doesn't it detract from the look when everything is based......except for 6 attack bikes chilling on nothing?
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Earphones: I went to a sony store but they no longer carry the same kind of earphones, and told me to go o best buy or something like that to see if they have something similar...... the closest thing they(the Sony Store) had would have been perfect, but was for the PSP system.......
I haven't been to a best buy or equivalent store, but I'm making due with what I have at the moment and just 'dealing' with the headphones. Pretty much an art form into getting them to work properly lol.
Whenever I turn my head to the right far enough the right earphone turns off..... then when back forward it works again...... and stuff like that lol.
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Starting/stopping projects: yea, I can see how it would be good to go from one to then another, /shrug, I just function differently.
Projects I have yet to finish:
Big Rhinos
Raptors
5th,6th,7th Deamon Princes
BFG fleet
Biker army
Now, we know why I've lost my interest in the Big rhinos, but i do plan on finishing them at some point, the raptors take up too much GS at the moment, plus I don't use them that often so fall off the radar, but they are cool enough to warrent finishing at some point.
The 3 WIP daemon prince I'm on and off, why? Because I'm using the leftover GS from other projects to tack onto them. In addition, I'm thinking hard to how I want to approach the rest of the wings.......membran e or no membrane and how to do it.
BFG fleet IS dead, but I'm using their parts for this new 'Eldar' army.
And the bikers: I will finish as they are super cool, but at the moment I still don't have the 42 bolt pistols, and I have yet to settle on how I want to represent those bolt pistols turned TL bolters on the Chaos Knights and Blood crushers.
See, I lose interest in actively working on something if I don't have a 'clear' plan of what I want. I spend prob. 6+ months into deciding a route and even then it can change again.
These 'gun ships' have taken root in my thoughts ever since the Tau came out...but I didn't think they matched very well to the Tau rules set, and back then 'super count as' was not on my mind, never even registered. Now is a different matter.
I did some more work: assembly line style:
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Note the top right side of the pic: those 3 mini models will make up A guardian jetbike. Delta formation or something.
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Well, as I've said before, it looks quite cool, so go for it.
Coming along nicely I see...
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Wow. Your projects never cease to amaze me Sanctjud. As usual your latest creations look really good. Keep up the good work. I really want to see those Raptors/Plague Flies you were planning out.
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I'm loving the new 'counts-as' models, Sanct. Very nice, can't wait to see a batrep ;D.
Keep up the great work.
~Thal
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Not really an update.
So I have the basics of the 11 'frigates' (warlocks on jetbike count as) done.
no pics yet.
I'm having trouble pinning down a base theme/attachment to base......actually I don't have any ideas.
So far I've changed the underside of the frigates a bit.
Using lego instead of magnets, the fusion gun underside will be removable.... should I need to get some destructor represented (flamer) or spear (something)...../shrug. Top side too.
But the bases are irritating me.
Cause I'm doing a display board too, but my random thoughts end up with 2 opposing base/board combos...
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UPDATE August 8, 2009.
I did some work on the ‘fleet’.
I did some of the ‘fighter’ bases. The ‘frigates’(warlock on jetbikes) have been assembled and have their witchblades (the fusion gun) installed.
Some pics:
First up is are the assembled frigates who just had their ends installed and are propped up against the bin cover.
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Next up is a view on all the stuff I’ve worked on, notice the ring of flying bases, those are for the fighters (guardian jetbikes).
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Next up is a test base height for the Frigates, just to see how they look up in the air and the base size. In addition, I still have no ideas on the base sadly.
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Last photo is the underside seeing the cost effective use of legos for some ‘removable’ fusion guns…..when singing spears or destructor need to be represented.
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Edit: WOWZORS 10,000+ views.
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Impressive work.
Love the legos. :D
So is this your JB army..except in BFG form?
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Cool stuff in a Weird sort of way...
Thanks for sharing once again... watch the base size relationships though... as you know how stringent some guys can get.
Cheers.
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I know, BUT, I can say this with a straight face: I'm basing these guys on the base they came with.
Very straight forward.
And if they tell me to base the 'warlocks' on bigger bases, then so be it, more competitive.
As for the 'fighters' I know there are jetbikes that come on small bases, GW books even show it. So no problems there.
Edit: I'll take pics when I can, but I've created a wonderful delivery system for the 'frigates'...
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Good, original work there Sanctjud, I like your theme/conversions very much. Don't get lazy and get on that project full steam, you wouldn't make us wait, right?
Starky
P.S. Khaine that your avvy is ugly. It is green though.
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UPDATE August 15, 2009
A brief update with pics.
I did some work on the ‘fighter’ bases and here is a pic of all that o show off:
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A close up on the frigates:
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Here is the delivery system for the frigates:
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Here it is outside the metal sleeve with frigates in it:
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Here it is all back inside:
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I have decided to go with making the bases like my earphones, at the very least to use the GS as a support for the flying bases, esp. for the fighter bases.
Things I have no idea what to convert:
-Shrieker Jetbikes (prob. named Corvettes)
-Farseer (prob. named Gallente after the eve ship...maybe convert something like that)
-Autarch (named Interdictor Frigate)
-Prisms (if I don’t use the paper airplane one, named destroyers)
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Sanct, those are superb :), very nice job.
Good luck finding a way to convert the others, can't wait to see this lot painted ;D.
~Thal
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I continue to like what I see there Sanct, keep up the good work! Do you intend to buld an entire box/lego tray to transport them around? And what about paint, could get damaged, direct friction with legos...
As for the frigate variants, could not just a change in weapons and teh add of some entennae wouldn't do?
Starky
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Thanks to you both.
@Thalandir:
I'm dreading the painting step, it's usually where I beslubber the models up....in a bad way :D
@Starky:
Nah not an entire lego tray.
As to scratching: I can alwasy lube them up with vassaline......vase line.......
Seriously: I'm not worried about the painting at this point. I'm still in between 2.5 projects, so I'll worry about paint later.
As for frigate varients, the farseer and autarch obviously have to be blinged out and stand out....I have my plans for each.
As to the Embolden/Enhance/normal frigates, I have some planns.
I do not know what I want to do with the excess antenni and multi-trakers, I want to use them, but I haven't found the right place to distribute them.
ANyway, I've attached the fighters I have onto the small flying bases.
The frigates all received the top portion of their cockpit and another lego piece on their backs for filler.
Back to my bikers, i've attached 5 horses on the first biker squad onto their bases, looking pretty sexy as well.
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Lego...==.. mans best friend.
Lets see the bikers too please.
Nice work so far on all of that stuff, thanks for sharing.
Cheers
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Sadly no pics, but I've done mucho work on the Frigates, you can start seeing difference between the Support Frigates, Assault Frigates (embolden/naked respectively).
I'll try to get pics today, and by the way, the Horsies were glued to the bases, not the bikers.
Ends up I have to scrap ALL of the lego issues, esp. on the frigates, they are just space filler for now.
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UPDATE August 18, 2009
Here’s a pic of the horses on them bases:
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Here’s an ‘army wide’ of what I have so far for the ‘fleet’:
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So yea, the Frigates quickly outgrew their initial lego drydock.
I’ve got one complete Guardian Jetbike squad on the front row on the left.
Here are the ‘Support Frigates’ (ie Warlocks with embolden)
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Not done yet, them flamers on the side are used to refuel the fighters, my thoughts are: they need fuel and running out of fuel is good as any other reason to fallback.
Here is something I’m tinkering with to represent the Warlock with enhance (Veteran Assault Frigate):
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Here a close up on the regular Warlocks “Assault Frigates”
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A pic of each of the different types of frigates, with their underside weapons 'installed'.
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So the assault frigates are bit beefier as they should be.
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Nice pics of the fleet. The weapons on look good, and I think most guys will agree that they have enough varience to show some class distinction at a glance... Nice use of the Tau/Necron Parts BTW as they look way better as Eldar !
The horses look really stock (weird to see from you)... Their nice still; but I want to see the convertion parts too. So get on with them.
Cheers
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Hmm, it seems my plague marines are now illegal with the new standards at my gaming group.
What a put-off.
Oh well, with my gunships aside, the closest thing I have to 'legal' for my gaming group official events seem to be HALF of my biker army that's still WIP.
/sigh...5 years...beslubber 5th ed and them changing the ruling on bases sizes. beslubber that amphetamine parrot.
Oh...and to be a bit on topic, I've assembled the other 5 bloodcrushers, and will need lots of greenstuffing to close up the gaps. I've also drew up plans of how I want the bikers to look.
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Hmm, it seems my plague marines are now illegal with the new standards at my gaming group.
What a put-off.
That's crap, yeah... Will you consider re-basing your models?
Oh well, with my gunships aside, the closest thing I have to 'legal' for my gaming group official events seem to be HALF of my biker army that's still WIP.
What do you mean, 'half'? Your custom bases won't do at all?
Starky
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Sanct, that really sucks, if I were you I'd consider unleashing some slurgly luvTM upon whoever decided on those stupid rules...people can be so pedantic...
~Thal
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plague marines are illegal............ ....?????????????????????????
WHAT? I cant believe this. just use them as khorne bezerkers and if you kill them just as well with that they cant talk
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Play them as counts-as Deathwing, then they have nothing to complain about. :) You could probably even get away with counts-as Grey Knights, if you put a couple of small-based IST standins (Nurglings!)
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@Starrakatt:
As I had alluded: the plague marines are a victim of their own awesomeness...their poses and size (truescale pretty much) make them look stupid...and actually don't fit on small bases.
I meant half, as I use converted bloodcrushers as attack bikes to go for 'theme', but they are not as anal about them, I'm being consistant as the bases I use for 'real' attack bikes are the area of those bikes, and are used for the Bloodcrushers.....b ut they can be easily rejected seeing as rules are becoming pretty tight...
@Thalandir:
I wish I could, sadly, people call 911 and the paperwork is just too tiresome to engage in Slurgle lovin'
@Enlargingcloud:
As I said in the PM, it's not the plague marines, it's the bases I use.
@tzeentchling:
Kind of. You know the plague marines with the big shields.....yea, 7-10 ish Thunder hammer/storm shield termies....bringing the pain.
Scythe as thunderhammer.
Shield as Storm Shield.
Termy base for termy.
Works 100%.
Nurglings as power armored grey knights.....I love it.
2 Nurlings on the base work the stormbolter catapult.
2 Nurlings on the base wielding the Nemisis Force Weapon on a mini Plague tower.
Crazy stuff.
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I'll try to get picsk of stuff I have assembled for bikers, hopefully I can get to GS'in the gaps on teh crushers, and start coverting the bikes with some card work to bulk them out.
As for the horses.....man it feels almost horrible to use GS to conceal the already wonderful model. I cant' stress it, the WFB Chaos Knights are sooo sexy.
An issue I am struggling with is the attachment of meltas and flamers on the cav models...
I've run through these options and have found no clear winner:
-holstered.
-in hand.
-'luggage'.
-weapon attachment
-wrist mounted...(prob. for TL bolters though).
I was thinking..... if I was crazy enough, I'd do a wandering spirit sort of thing toting the melta/flamer...sort of like this:
http://scrollmaster.net/warmachine/cryx-skarlocks.php (http://scrollmaster.net/warmachine/cryx-skarlocks.php)
More specifically akin to the skull in hand portion of the model.
In addition:
http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/PIP34044%20Soulhunters%20Unit.jpg (http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/PIP34044%20Soulhunters%20Unit.jpg)
DAAAMMNN
Sexiness right there.......maybe I scratch build a HQ to look like one of those. Ugh so much to do...
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Update September 19, 2009.
So I’ve side lined the Gunships for now to focus on bikers.
The Gunships will be returned to when I get some more Necron warriors boxes to fill out the troopers.
First pic is of the random string of crushers I’m putting together, must still greenstuff the gaps in the legs, then attach the heads.
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The next picture is of a Crusher upclose, to see the beginnings of the ‘bike/mount-ification. I used the Dark Angel baggie to cover the Khorne symbol on the hind left thigh of the crusher. I’ll have to shave off the DA symbol on the bags though.
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Next up is a birds’ eye view of the 1500 list minus Captain, seems pretty small. A note the bike models on the larger bases will be attack bikes, but I’m still deciding how to approach them.
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Here is a sloped front view of the collection.
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A close up on biker squad ‘A’.
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Yes, the biker models have extended 'wings' on the front portion of the bike, gonna get some greenstuffing space up front. I'm gonna mimic the WFB Chaos Knights on the bikers and put some armor plates on the bike, 2 small ones near the end of the bike, and a pair around the fuel tank.
I'm hoping to extend the armor around the Horse chest area to make it similar to the bikers' wings, but it seems some original details will be covered up. We'll see.
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Excellent inspirational thread !!!
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I am liking the ponies,... er Bikes.
Cheers
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Looking pretty sic man.
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UPDATE NOVEMBER 22ND, 2009.
Number of views on this post: 11137, wowzorz.
Hello, it's been some time.
I've had lots of busy busy and procrastination nation! :D
So I have done some light work on my bikers and have some pics.
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Here we have a collection of 'actual' bikers in my list.
Top left are 'actual Chaos Bikers' and I did some touching up with greenstuff on their bases to test the waters.
The other bikers are from the ravenwing box.
Notice the top right biker has some greenstuffing done to also 'test the waters'.
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Here is a close up on the bikes.
Some greenstuffing on the left.
But the important part is the front wheel.
I clipped them off and repositioned them around 90 degrees clockwise with respect to the above picture. This does 3 things:
1. It expands the gap between the wheel and body, therefore lengthening the bike and sloping it a bit down.
2. Provides a flatter surface up front to do some more greenstuffing.
3. Looks better with more armor upfront to cover the wheels.
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Now on other news...many will groan.
A new project is on the horizon...and here's a preview pic:
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It's a Kroot, but not really a Kroot. ;D
The gun on the bottom is supposed to be a shot gun...a double barrelled one.
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i've been following this thread for a while, never posted though. Love all the work, especially the Eldar. How did you make the Fire Prisms/jetbikes?
Oh, and btw, can you give a size reference of the "fighters"?
Can't believe they won't let you use the plague marines
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Nice update... close up of the CSM Bikes too please...
Oh and nice Kroot,,, err SMScout,,, err Dude with Shotgun (IG?)...
Cheers
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@Corsair of Khorne:
Thank you for stopping by. As to how I made the Prisms/jetbikes, I used to have a template, I'll look around, but it was something I threw together in the heat of the moment...thought this 'Eldar' project is on uber hold....like StarCraft Ghost 'Hold'...
As to the 'fighters'...they will be on the back seat as well...their size is as you can see from one of the above pics.
The smaller one is smaller in area than the Tau Gun drone head, while the larger 'bomber's' wing span extends beyond the diameter of the Tau gun drone, but the length is similar to the diameter.
As to the plague marines, yea, only for pick-up/friendly games...
@moc065:
Well, the CSM bikes don't have any work on them other than the clipping of the front suspention to make the front lowered in angle, much like the loyalist bikers.
And as for he Kroot with the shot gun::::::
UPDATE December 6, 2009.
Just a few pictures of my Necromunda gang.
I have not decided if they will be Delaque or Ratskins…I guess I can go either really.
The majority of this gang will be made from a box of Kroot Carnivores. (There is then the extra bitz from the bitz box and I had some kroot before)
In addition: these do NOT have anything Nurgle growing on them…………………………….yet.
My goal (first model aside) will be to make some cleanly greenstuff and modeled…models. I wanted them to be more dynamic and have a majority with more movement than my previous works.
I know some will groan that I’m starting something new…but…well there really isn’t any buts… heh.
Notes:
*The heads have been clipped waiting for greenstuff hair like in Predator, then the mouth will be covered up with ‘cloth’.
*The ‘shotguns’ are made from a Kroot Rifle. The barrel was clipped, two necron rods were used as the barrels of the ‘Double Barrel Shotgun’, then two original Kroot Barrels are used as the loading mechanism for shells.
*Autogun/Lasgun/Muskets are the regular Kroot Rifles…they are more akin to Autoguns/Muskets though.
*I’ve even based some of the stuff with GW basing !!!!!!!
*All await more greenstuff to close up gaps and will have cloaks to cover stuff I don’t work on. I also have all the extra bitz to add, most likely around the waists.
*I got my first Pin Vice… IT IS AWESOME!!!!!!! I’m planning on drilling the barrels of every model with a gun I use on the table.
First up is a Ganger/Brave with a Shotgun/Scattergun (the first model I did):
Cut/bent the legs to reposition them. Sort of like overwatching.
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Second is another Ganger/Brave with a Shotgun/Scattergun, sort of like at attention. The legs were bent.
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Third is a Ganger/Brave with an Auto/Lasgun/Musket, he’s somewhat charging, but getting a shot off. Not much converting here.
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Fourth is the same as Third. This will require a lot of work and ‘covering up’. I wanted a guy with a rifle on his left side, as all the guns were on the right. Lots of stuff were cut and flipped around.
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Fifth is (for now) a Juv with just a knife. His other hand is empty cause it’s a place holder for the cloak he will have…maybe I’ll include a way to add something to the other hand if I can conceal it.
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Sixth is like Third (lets just call it a Musket). He’s mid swing with his gun/knife, not much converting, just positioning and gap filling.
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Seventh is a Musket ganger (my fav for now), I love the positioning and sort of arrogant movement. This involved cutting limbs and some slow bending of the joints. The wire is there for supporting the cloak/concealing points to adding gear.
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Eighth is my second fav…I used the pin vice to keep the leg strong and stable (I even dropped him and he stayed put…) This is what I wanted, the movement. Though it’s not an original pose but I love it.
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Ninth is another juv much like Fifth, he’s crouching in anticipation…he needs a lot of work…the angles of the feet were harder to smooth out for some reason.
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This is a pic of a WIP Pistol, made from just snipping the Kroot Gun, the end and the front. I’m not too happy with it, it still looks a bit big…but I don’t want to stray too away from the Kroot Box.
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A group shot.
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I plan on having 20 members…the Carnivore Box only has 16, but that’s where my extra bitz come in. (Count as Lesser Daemons in my main army if I ever use them).
I still don’t have a concrete plan on the leader.
As for Heavies if I go with Delaque, (count as) Tau Stealth Suit (this will be the first Stealth Suits, not the gorilla ones.
I have plans for a Sniper Model, double pistols, plasma/flamer ganger, Shaman, etc.
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As for the bikes, I've done some more vents on the sides, and more drawing of plans but nothing major yet.
My 7 Cents.
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UPDATE: February 21, 2010.
Yea…it’s been a while.
So, to briefly catch up:
There is a Indy GT coming to my area, so I’ve been jumping back onto my bikers. I’ve done some work on them and hopefully can get them done before May…not likely though sadly (paint and all done).
I still don’t have any concrete ideas on converting the Captain.
Anyway, some pics:
First pic is of the all the stuff I’ve worked on. Note: I’ve finished GS’ing the bases and have done some Greenstuffing on the majority of the list. Most notably, I’ve finished the GS’ing on the Multi-Melta Attack Bikes on the bottom. Next step is paint for them.
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Next is a close up on the Hvy Bolter Attack Bikes, I did some closing of the seems and added baggage to both hind legs to bulk it up.
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A close up on the ‘bikers’. Did some ‘vent’ work to bulk out the backs of the biker bikers, while the ‘ponies’ have had somewhat of a face lift, though are far from done.
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Here’s the two Multi-Melta Attack Bike squadrons done:
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Next up are individual shots of them:
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So yea, next up is paint for them.
As for Greenstuffing, I need to get more GS to then do more vent work on the bikes, HB attack bikes and get started on venting on the ‘ponies’.
My 7 Cents.
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The MM Attack bikes are an excellent conversion and GS work etc.. good of you to find such a better use for Tau Suits, etc...
The Bikes look good... although the ponies don't convince me yet ... their just not quite right yet (aside from needing riders)..
The other attack bikes are cool too, and the baggage actually helps if you ask me.
Thanks for the massive update.
Cheers
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Great GSing dude! Especially on the MM bikes... so disgusting :)
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just curious, what are the juggernauts of khorne counting as?
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UPDATE: June 1, 2010
Hellos, it’s been a while.
I have done some stuff, but mostly I was being lazy.
Firstly, I did get greenstuff and painting done on my Nurgle Tau, though no basing yet, and they are only good for Kill Team at the moment:
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Second, I did some work on the Biker Army, but nothing useful to take pictures of at the moment.
The most work I have done are on the HQ’s of the army, namely the Captain and the Librarian.
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They are still very much WIP, and don’t mind the paint, it was ‘extra’, and I threw it on.
I’m not totally happy with the Captain’s backpack/trophy rack thingy…but it looked so much better on paper, so I’m tinkering with it.
I am happy with the sword, very relic bladey… I have a nice shield ready for him.
Gonna be doing some work on the face as well.
More guts and then some directional flowing equipment/armored plates on his belt.
The libby is on the right, essentially the snake head dude.
I’m not too sure how much I like the bolt pistol arm, but it is a bit different with no force weapon on hand.
But I’m thinking that’s not a huge issue with forked lightning coming out of his other hand.
I still need to do the same sort of greenstuffing for his guts and waist plates. I need to work on the fingers to transition better…but overall, I like the rack and skull on top.
I’m pretty happy overall with the snake bodies used (read: Red Terror and old metal Ravenor bodies for the Captain and Libby, respectively.) It stands out in the army of biker, horses, and Bloodcrushers.
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Warmachine Corner:
So I’m starting up Cryx, which isn’t a huge surprise… it was either the undead dudes or the Circle army and turn them into a Nurgle Forest army :D.
But I’m gonna hold off on the overt Nurgle side of things, as I do want this army to be more openly embraced by the gaming group.
So here goes.
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First up is the Slayer Helljack, I didn’t like the ‘regular’ pose of this model, so I butchered the legs and reposed it into a more…arrogant pose I guess.
Rules-wise I’m not too ‘in to’ the Jacks as I’m more of an infantry man, but hell, I have the model and it looks cool.
So I do have more greenstuffing to do on him and I’m hoping to do a coral theme to them as they are Evil Undead Pirates….so this is somewhat out of my comfort zone.
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Next up are models waiting to be greenstuffed.
The front two medium based models are Deathripper Bone Jacks, I didn’t like the smaller puny legs, so I’m gonna go just a bit out of limb and convert them. I want them to look more like a worm/slug/centipede.
The three larger models behind them are call Soulhunters… their rules are kind of so-so, but are very very fast and are IMO very cool models.
One huge CON: PINNING THE ARMS ARRRRRRGGG, actually, just pinning in general…UGGGHHH, maybe it’s just that I don’t have enough experience with pinning, but damn it.
Anyway, I did some reposing of the arms and I’m going to add my signature guts to them.
Last pic;
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On the left we have the starter Warcaster: War Witch Deneghra.
Um, no real changes… I’m not too fond of the model, but I did reposition the the arm a little and head.
On the right we have the War Witch Siren.
I REALLY love this model, it was the first model I pinned and it was still annoying, but it is that lovely.
One issue, the normal position of the model makes it look like she’s jumping up vertically instead of forward, so as you see there, she’s angled forward.
The barbs at the back of her head were completely stolen from some other guys’ Blog as it would have usually been attached to her back.
So, yea, the going is slow, but I’m still trudging on.
-Sanct.