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Skitarii - Who Cares?
« on: March 28, 2015, 06:05:48 PM »
So according to White Dwarf 61 there's a new army in town called the Skitarii. I like some of the models but overall I am left with a feeling of meh. Does 40k really need another army and if it does how many of you think this is the one?
I have never been overly interested in the fluff side of 40K so I guess I might be missing something. I also guess that as all the rules have been printed in White Dwarf there won't be a Skitarii Codex. So I thought I would ask you lot a few questions to see if I can get a better understanding of this new release. Who is this release aimed at? Should I be excited about it?
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Re: Skitarii - Who Cares?
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2015, 07:25:22 PM »
Well man i had that wight dwarf in my hand this afternoon and... ot look pretty nice to me yet i have some terrible though for this army.

What for? i guess because mechanicus is needed? there should be 3 codex  for mechanicus including this one if my info are correct. Apparently on the long run they should replace grey knight as the codex is supposedly goign to be left to die same for the the sister of battle  (don't know the english name).

Next how do they look? ... well... well... i like them a lot. Load of details very much how i would have imagined mechanicus so for me they are nice. A bad point for me tho. I know they are mere human they can't shant list  eldar do but damn those walker. They are like way too close between the heavy support and the fast attack only the weapon change feel weird to me. I know eldar tank are the samd design aswell but that stil give me a weird feeling with this guy's.

Well next is the rules... ... ... ... does that make enough dot for you to understand that i feel this guy's are beslubbering over powered? That's just ridiculous. Normal guy have a sx ap rapid fire and the other rules i don't remember, ... for x points... like wait what? We should not have problem with copieright as these are in the wight dwarf do we? If there is please correct me.
And do we speak about the one with the sx apx weapon that which does very nasty things that you'll have to read about for yourself?. .. for x pts the dude? Ridiculous. 
And the relatively heavily armoured walker walker with the x+ cover in the open. Don't  even speak about fluff to me... 11 armor with an open toped walker were the pilot is so opened ghat any welk trained sniper would do a one shot one kill in this...

well i like them model wise but i fear them game wise. There you have my though.

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Re: Skitarii - Who Cares?
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2015, 07:36:23 PM »
I don't know if we need Skitarii per say but I know that I want them. :P

This definitely seems like an army for people who are more into the fluff and modeling aspects of the hobby rather than gaming.

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Re: Skitarii - Who Cares?
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2015, 08:29:25 PM »
They look really cool, to me, and will make really useful and interesting allies to almost any Imperial force.

This army is indicative of the New 40K--tons and tons and tons of options designed so the players can craft armies out of a variety of things instead of being consigned to a single faction. Arguably, it is how 40K was originally imagined. Is it crazy? Yeah. But it's certainly cool.

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Re: Skitarii - Who Cares?
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2015, 08:31:02 PM »
This army is indicative of the New 40K--tons and tons and tons of options designed so the players can craft armies out of a variety of things instead of being consigned to a single faction. Arguably, it is how 40K was originally imagined. Is it crazy? Yeah. But it's certainly cool.

Amen.  I do like this development.

I got a look at the rules in the WD.  They seem to be pretty effective.

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Re: Skitarii - Who Cares?
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2015, 01:37:43 AM »
This army is indicative of the New 40K--tons and tons and tons of options designed so the players can craft armies out of a variety of things instead of being consigned to a single faction. Arguably, it is how 40K was originally imagined. Is it crazy? Yeah. But it's certainly cool.

Amen.  I do like this development.

I got a look at the rules in the WD.  They seem to be pretty effective.

Amen aswell^^

Yet to me it's not pretty effective, to me it seems ridiculously effective!
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Re: Skitarii - Who Cares?
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2015, 07:12:47 AM »
I don't know if we need Skitarii per say but I know that I want them. :P

This definitely seems like an army for people who are more into the fluff and modeling aspects of the hobby rather than gaming.

Well I have seen it said that GW consider themselves manufacturers of collectables rather than manufacturers of a game so you are probably right Tangi. I don't really consider myself a gamer but releases like this just leave me feeling left out of the 40k experience. Does that make sense to anyone?

They look really cool, to me, and will make really useful and interesting allies to almost any Imperial force.

This army is indicative of the New 40K--tons and tons and tons of options designed so the players can craft armies out of a variety of things instead of being consigned to a single faction. Arguably, it is how 40K was originally imagined. Is it crazy? Yeah. But it's certainly cool.

It is a good point that you make Wyddr. Way back when 40k seemed to favour modellers rather than the gamer. There used to loads of items that existed in the Codecies that didn't exist in real life but if you could make them you could use them. So in someway Adeptus Mechanicus has always existed (I think). Also the rules have always stated that the rules don't matter and I believe that unbound is just GW trying to get this point across. Thing is though is that I liked the one Faction one Codex approach and don't find releases like the Skitarii cool at all.

Don't even speak about fluff to me... 11 armor with an open toped walker were the pilot is so opened ghat any welk trained sniper would do a one shot one kill in this...   

I gave up applying real life sensibilities to GW models and fluff a long time ago as otherwise I think I would have chucked all my Codicies in the bin by now. I can emphasise with you though. In this instance it is not the armour value compared to how easily killable the Walkers operators is that winds me up but the perptual motion rubbish.
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Re: Skitarii - Who Cares?
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2015, 09:01:45 AM »
Thing is though is that I liked the one Faction one Codex approach and don't find releases like the Skitarii cool at all.

Well, there's nothing stopping you from playing a one-faction codex army. I still do for three out of my four armies and they work just fine. Nobody's making you buy Skitarii.  :)

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Re: Skitarii - Who Cares?
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2015, 09:05:28 AM »
I like this release for two reasons.

1) The models are beautiful. They really show what GW can do with their newer processes and make for some very characterful and interesting pieces for the table.

2) This release gives me so much more hope that rumors of a Genestealer Cult Codex in the future are plausible. It also makes me hope that my favorite Imperial faction of all, the Adeptus Arbites, may once again see the table at some point. (Haven't heard any rumors to substantiate this mind you - just seems like a reasonable thing to happen eventually.)

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Re: Skitarii - Who Cares?
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2015, 09:11:11 AM »
Well from what i was told there is 3 mechanicus codex to be coming one of them being these Skitarii dude I don't have more precision and i am not sure of my source at all. Well this is said and left here aniway.
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Re: Skitarii - Who Cares?
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2015, 10:04:08 AM »
This isn't the right place to discuss rumours but I have to admit that for me the Genestealer Cult falls into the same category as Skitarii. That is they both seem rather niche and I can't see them appealing to the wider 40k audience.

From the few responses I have had I am guessing that my mehness is in the minority and the answer to "who cares" is quite a lot of you. Cheers.
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Re: Skitarii - Who Cares?
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2015, 10:44:07 AM »
Well yeah you can say that indeed. The reason why i care is because i fear them a lot as they seems way to powerfull to me :/
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Re: Skitarii - Who Cares?
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2015, 12:24:48 PM »
It is nice to see the other forces of the galaxy getting some love.  How many books have people read that have Mechanicus support for the battles and they always involve the Skitarii?  I'm kind of surprised it took them this long to do them justice.  To me, they deserve an army in the game as much as the Dark Angels, Space Wolves, and Blood Angels.  All can be represented by another army, but to do them justice, they need their own force.

I am a huge fan of the direction GW is going with 40k.  Do you want to field X type of army?  You can do the standard method, or you can use the specialist book we are releasing here.  Perfect example is the new Khorne book.  I love that they are doing that, and it means they will be doing a book for all of the gods.  Take that with the Iyanden book and I can see them doing a book for all of the Craftworlds as well.

More variety based around fluff can not be a bad thing, in my mind.
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Re: Skitarii - Who Cares?
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2015, 01:08:26 PM »
Perfect example is the new Khorne book.  I love that they are doing that, and it means they will be doing a book for all of the gods.  Take that with the Iyanden book and I can see them doing a book for all of the Craftworlds as well.

More variety based around fluff can not be a bad thing, in my mind.

You know GML you might have hit on something here. Thinking about it the Harlequins are as much a niche army as Genestealer Cults or Skitarii but I happily bought their Codex. So it seems to me that another answer to "who cares" is anyone that has a good understanding of 40k fluff.
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Re: Skitarii - Who Cares?
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2015, 03:50:33 PM »
It is nice to see the other forces of the galaxy getting some love.  How many books have people read that have Mechanicus support for the battles and they always involve the Skitarii?  I'm kind of surprised it took them this long to do them justice.  To me, they deserve an army in the game as much as the Dark Angels, Space Wolves, and Blood Angels.  All can be represented by another army, but to do them justice, they need their own force.

I am a huge fan of the direction GW is going with 40k.  Do you want to field X type of army?  You can do the standard method, or you can use the specialist book we are releasing here.  Perfect example is the new Khorne book.  I love that they are doing that, and it means they will be doing a book for all of the gods.  Take that with the Iyanden book and I can see them doing a book for all of the Craftworlds as well.

More variety based around fluff can not be a bad thing, in my mind.

I have to completely agree.  I'm surprised it's taken this long to get admech stuff out there too since they're such an important faction.  I guess it's only now that they gained the tech to make the models the way they should be.  And what sweet ass models they are.  They're very 40k!  I'm really happy with them, which means I need to get some asap. 

And once again this is a continuation of a great recent trend by GW to return to their roots, only on a bigger scale.  Harlequins, Imperial Knights, multiple faction forces etc.  Just like in the Rogue Trader and Epic days.

Things like this make me live in hope that the IG will get a lot of love in the future; proper Catachan Jungle Fighter rules again for example (and new models to replace those old dated ones).

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Re: Skitarii - Who Cares?
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2015, 07:05:49 AM »
I'm glad they are doing Ad Mech. I love the more esoteric aspects of the Imperium. I hope they bring back Electro-Priests! Personally I love how much variety the game offers now. It brings me back to the old 2nd edition days where there were so many obscure units and weird rules. Its part of the fun to me. Its easy to imagine the varous races of the 40k universe never really knowing what they are going to encounter on the battlefield.

However I really hope that the other factions get equal love... particularly in the form of campaigns and ally codices. Tyranids have gotten a deluge of options via campaigns. I hope Eldar, Dark Eldar, Tau and Imperial Guard get some love in the near future. Kinda odd that IG hasn't gotten to sneak into some of the campaigns but I'm sure they'll get something in the future which is scary considering how good they already are.
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Re: Skitarii - Who Cares?
« Reply #16 on: April 4, 2015, 11:11:02 PM »
Did anyone get today's White Dwarf and see the new Sicarian Infiltrator and Ruststaker models with their accompanying rules?  I for one am sold, and will be creating an admech army a.s.a.p.  8)

Also it turns out that Skitarii don't need to be red...like the IG, their colours are dependent upon their home forge world.  They had a white uniformed unit to demonstrate this.

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Re: Skitarii - Who Cares?
« Reply #17 on: April 5, 2015, 04:02:38 AM »
I did not see those but i wonder if i need to see them to know they are defenetly completly over powered?
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Re: Skitarii - Who Cares?
« Reply #18 on: April 5, 2015, 04:19:45 AM »
Did anyone get today's White Dwarf and see the new Sicarian Infiltrator and Ruststaker models with their accompanying rules?

I got issue 62 of White Dwarf Tangi and it wasn't the rules that got me excited about the Skitarii but the fact that their Codex is a realistic and affordable £20. At that price I will probably buy one from Element Games.
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« Reply #19 on: April 5, 2015, 04:21:26 AM »
20£ ...that's pretty cheap nowadays><
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