Topic: Help me decide between 2 Deamonhunters army lists

[dennismathys]

Time to ask for some suggestions on my Daemonhunters army. Ive thought about it for a while and have come up with two different lists. I dont want to use any allies or induct any other forces.

List one I will rush with both rhinos and provide support with the Inquisitor and the two IST squads not mounted in the rhinos. DS both the GKGM w/retinue and both FAGK squads. Im hoping the the Inquisitor and two IST squads will provide enough distraction to let the rhinos get into a good position to DS the GK's. Then the two rhino IST squads can hunt armour.

List two will rush with the rhinos and the AC dreadnought, provide support with the LC/ML dread and DS the GKGM w/retinue and both FAGK squads. Almost the same strategy. This time the AC dread will rush with the two rhinos, hopefully taking some fire without dieing. DS the GK's, then the two rhinos squads and the LC/ML dread can hunt armour.

Go ahead and tear both lists apart. Im almost done with my army but have enough models to play either list. Once again thanks for any help.

List one:

HQ
1 Grey Knight Grand Master @ 384 Pts
Psycannon
4 Grey Knight Terminator Retinue
Psycannon

ELITES
1 Ordo Malleus Inquisitor @ 151 Pts
Psycannon; Teleport Homer
1 Sages
1 Mystic
3 Heavy Bolter Gun Servitors

TROOPS
4 Inquisitorial Stormtroopers @ 155 Pts
MeltaGun (x2)
1 Veteran Stormtrooper
Teleport Homer; Hell pistol; Close Combat Weapon; Melta Bombs
Rhino
Extra Armor; Smoke

4 Inquisitorial Stormtroopers @ 155 Pts
MeltaGun (x2)
1 Veteran Stormtrooper
Teleport Homer; Hell pistol; Close Combat Weapon; Melta Bombs
Rhino
Extra Armor; Smoke

7 Inquisitorial Stormtroopers @ 90 Pts
Plasma Gun (x1)
Grenade Launcher (x1)

7 Inquisitorial Stormtroopers @ 90 Pts
Plasma Gun (x1)
Grenade Launcher (x1)

FAST ATTACK
7 Grey Knights @ 235 Pts
Incinerator (x1)
1 Grey Knight Justicar

7 Grey Knights @ 235 Pts
Incinerator (x1)
1 Grey Knight Justicar
 

Total Roster Cost: 1495 Pts

List two:
HQ
1 Grey Knight Grand Master @ 384 Pts
Psycannon
4 Grey Knight Terminator Retinue
Psycannon

TROOPS
6 Inquisitorial Stormtroopers @ 175 Pts
MeltaGun (x2)
1 Veteran Stormtrooper
Teleport Homer; Hell pistol; Close Combat Weapon; Melta Bombs
Rhino
Extra Armor; Smoke

6 Inquisitorial Stormtroopers @ 175 Pts
MeltaGun (x2)
1 Veteran Stormtrooper
Teleport Homer; Hell pistol; Close Combat Weapon; Melta Bombs
Rhino
Extra Armor; Smoke

FAST ATTACK
7 Grey Knights @ 235 Pts
Incinerator (x1)
1 Grey Knight Justicar

7 Grey Knights @ 235 Pts
Incinerator (x1)
1 Grey Knight Justicar
 
HEAVY SUPPORT
1 Grey Knight Dreadnought @ 133 Pts
Assualt Cannon; Incinerator; Exxtra Armour; Smoke

1 Grey Knight Dreadnought @ 148 Pts
Twin-Linked Lascannon; Missile Launcher; Extra Armour; Smoke

Total Roster Cost: 1493 Pts

[jesus_freak]

I would take list #2. Simply 'cause the Rhino Rush is a perfectly viable tactic. I can, being a Daemonhunter who harldy have killed a Nurgling, only see one problem with the list, no. 2 that is. Your Dreadnoughts will be left behind, with Deepstriking Termies and Grey Knights, not to mention the rushing Rhinos. What would be your take on that?

[dennismathys]

The LC/ML dread will be in the backfield giving fire support and taking out hard targets. The AC dread is going to assault with the rhinos so he wont be to far from the action when the GK's arrive. Im hoping the AC dread will take enough fire (and survive) off of the rhinos that they can get into decent position when the GKs DS. With the GKs on the table there should be enough high risk targets that the rhinos can get away and hunt tanks, if there are any left that the LC/ML dread didnt kill.

So thats it, get the GKs and the AC dread into CC and use the IST and the LC/ML dread to take out the enemy armour. WIll this work or am I looking for a long list of defeats? Before I forget Im trying to work out the points to be able to upgrade the LC/ML dread into a LR or LRC. If I can I will have the LR/LRC empty and have it assualt with the rhinos and the AC dread.

[dennismathys]

Well I got the LRC to fit into the points. I guess I should call this list number three.

HQ
1 Grey Knight Grand Master @ 359 Pts
Psycannon
4 Grey Knight Terminator Retinue

TROOPS
4 Inquisitorial Stormtroopers @ 150 Pts
MeltaGun (x2)
1 Veteran Stormtrooper
Teleport Homer; Hell pistol; Close Combat Weapon
Rhino
Extra Armor; Smoke

4 Inquisitorial Stormtroopers @ 150 Pts
MeltaGun (x2)
1 Veteran Stormtrooper
Teleport Homer; Hell pistol; Close Combat Weapon
Rhino
Extra Armor; Smoke

FAST ATTACK
7 Grey Knights @ 225 Pts
1 Grey Knight Justicar

7 Grey Knights @ 225 Pts
1 Grey Knight Justicar
 
HEAVY SUPPORT
1 Grey Knight Dreadnought @ 125Pts
Assault Cannon; Incinerator

1 Grey Knights Land Raider Crusader @ 265

Total Roster Cost: 1499 Pts

I lost a couple melta bombs, incinerators and a psycannon. I figure there are going to be so many targets assaulting the enemy at once (2x rhinos, LRC and a AC dreadnought) that most should make it into CC. Once the GK's DS the two squads of IST should be able to load back up and go after some enemy armour. Opinions?

[jesus_freak]

You know, having a Land Raider Crusader (even though it's empty ) makes the opponent pour heavy weapons fire onto it, making your 'little guys' (the IST) drive around in their Rhinos relatively unmolested. Good job, even though I'd like to see more fluffy Inquisitorial goodness.