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Inquisitorial Warbands.
« on: January 14, 2012, 07:36:24 PM »
I am planning to expand my 2000pt Grey Knights army (All knights) by another 500-700pts, and would like to add some Inquisitorial/non G.K units.
Of course taking a Vindicare assassin goes without saying, but it's the prospect of using Inquisitorial warbands that intrigues me.
I want to run a full squad led by an Inquisitor (not sure what order yet).
Do you guys have any opinions of what I should take in a full 12 person shooty/combat warband?
If you were going for a shooty warband what would you take?
If you were going for combat warband what would you take?

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Re: Inquisitorial Warbands.
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2012, 08:13:14 PM »
My personal favourites, added "flavour henchman" to get to a squad total of 12 including inquisitor. These flavour henchman are not needed, but can add something the others lack (dread protection for example for the combat henchman in the form of melta bomb warrior acolytes or a banisher with an eviscerator).

Combat:
- Xenos inquisitor with both grenades + psyker (hammerhand) + armour
- 5 Assassins
- 4 Crusaders
- 2 flavour henchman

Preferably in a Land raider with frag assault launchers. Can also be used in a Chimera, but without assault grenades they are difficult to use offensively without Land raider support.


Shooty:
- Heriticus inquisitor with Psyocculum
- 3 plasma servitors
- 5 psykers
- 3 flavour henchman

In a chimera (for firepoints). Preferably target squads with a psyker in them for incredible accuracy.
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Re: Inquisitorial Warbands.
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2012, 12:46:47 AM »
running 3+ crusaders seems key to offsetting the poor rolls of flak armour
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Re: Inquisitorial Warbands.
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2012, 02:32:51 AM »
What do you guys think about Daemonblades for a close combat warband?
What do you think about lots of Jokaero's for a shooty warband?
Would you/do you use them?
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Re: Inquisitorial Warbands.
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2012, 07:51:22 AM »
For combat the squad Dutchsage mentioned with a Double nad xeno inquisitor backed up by Death cult assasins is very hard to beat.

As far as shooty goes you have far more options.

I like a mixed squad to travel with Coteaz in a chimera, using his special ability they can punish anyone who tries to deepstrike in near you lines.
His squad usually has a mix of the following: 2x Jokero, 3x Servitor (plasma), A single psyker, 3x acolyte (plasma/melta).

Other units I like are 8x Psyker for a super good template and 9 acholytes (6 bolter, 3 flamer) with a Jokero in a rhino to rush up and unload 4 templates onto something, if your lucky you'll have rolled for rending on the moneys table.

3x acolyte (meltagun) are a cheap and dangerous scoring unit.

Those are just a few that I use, one thing to remember with shooty squads is if you can fit in 3-4 DCA then most MEQ opponents will be very wary of assaulting them.

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Re: Inquisitorial Warbands.
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2012, 08:18:19 AM »
Thanks for answering Wisdom, some interesting ideas there.
Anybody else use or plan to use Inquisitorial warbands?
« Last Edit: January 16, 2012, 08:37:40 AM by The Ecclesiarch »
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Re: Inquisitorial Warbands.
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2012, 07:14:17 AM »
When I finally have the spare models for this I plan to have atleast 2 squads of 12 acolytes all with stormbolters. It's cheap, it's shooty, it's scoring, and it's not a priority target amongst the assassins and GKs. They will mostly be used to harass enemy squads and make them so angry that they chase after 1 squad so it runs away while shooting and the other squad shoots the chasing opponent squad in the back.

With regards to the jokaero I wouldn't put any more than 2 into a single squad. Any more and you have a good chance of getting nothing for your bonus. They aren't cheap either so too many of them will mean a lot less of everything else.

Combat warbands are as people have said, death cultists and crusaders with the odd inquisitor for grenade duty. I'm pretty sure it's an option for GKs but some people like to add a priest with eviscerator to take down dreads instead of trying to use melta bombs against a walker.

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Re: Inquisitorial Warbands.
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2012, 08:47:49 AM »
I have a warband with 3 meltaguns and 5 storm bolters in a chimera at 1750.

it's cheap (133 points) and cheerful. it adds me some melta to my psycannons. I have used quite a few different models - meltagun SoB, meltagun IG, delaque necromunda models, karskin - to get a motley crew feel and I really like it.

at 2000, I am contemplating adding 2 jokers. mainly because 35 inch range rending storm bolters are hilarious.
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Re: Inquisitorial Warbands.
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2012, 12:05:19 AM »
I have been thinking more about this and come up with a unit I think would be fun.

Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor w/ Psycic Communion
Mystic
4x Psycher
3x Crusader
3x Warrior Acolyte
Chimera w/ warp stabalization field

222 points plus any additional gear

The Mystic and the Inquisitor's Psychic Communion help bring Terms/Strike squads in.  Warp stabalization field lets Chimera be moved about.  Acolytes are meat shield. Crusaders are 3++Svs. AND 4 psychers means a 36" S6 AP3 large bast shot from your chimera

Just thinking about it.
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Re: Inquisitorial Warbands.
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2012, 12:34:38 PM »
Im not sure that I like that set up spiny :) seems like a bit of a gamble.
I was thinking about buying and using this warband when I have got the money to expand my army.
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Inquisitor Coteaz 100pts.
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Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband:
x3 Inquisitorial Servitors with x1 Multi-melta and x2 Plasma cannons,
x2 Jokaero's,
x2 Warrior Acolytes with Chainswords, Flak armour, Laspistols,
x4 Warrior Acolytes with Carapace armour, x4 Plasma guns,
200pts.
Tranport.
Inquisitorial Chimera with x2 Heavy flamers 55pts.

Thats effectively 3 Multi-Melta's & 6 Plasma weapons with the ability to shoot deep striking units...
What do you guys think about this setup?
Do you think I should lose the the Carapace Plasma guys and save myself some points?
Do you think it would generally be better to take a normal Hereticus Inquistor with a Psyoocculum, instead of Coteaz?
« Last Edit: January 19, 2012, 12:43:43 PM by The Ecclesiarch »
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Re: Inquisitorial Warbands.
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2012, 12:52:39 PM »
I like the plasma guys myself as they give you something to shoot with after you move but wouldn't give them any extra armour (also you can only take 3 special weapons).

The psycocculum is nice but your generally going to be fielding Coteaz so stick with him.

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Re: Inquisitorial Warbands.
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2012, 01:30:30 PM »
I have two requisite Henchmen squads - hold-overs from my Daemonhunter days, I guess.

Shooty Retinue:
- Coteaz
- 2 x Jokaero
- 3 x HB servitors
- 7 x Psykers (points dependant)
- No transport, hunkered down in cover by my home objective or a nearby objective)

Combat Retinue:
- Xenos Inquisitor w/ rad grenades, venom talon, armour (because I had points left over)
- DCA x 6
- Arcos x 2
- Flamer acolytes x 2
- Flies around in my Storm Raven (lascannon, MM) hunting enemy deathstar units or charging enemy objective holders

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Re: Inquisitorial Warbands.
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2012, 05:16:03 PM »
f.desrochers I dont think you use that set up without at least giving your Inquisitor the Hammerhand psychic power (just my two cents).

I really like the Death cult Assassin + Crusader idea that DutchSage mentioned.
I would use that warband but I cant spare a Landraider to get them across the field, sinse all my heavy slots are taken up with Landraiders to carry my other units...a shame.

I will stick with the Coteaz warband, also it will be a good unit to camp on my home objective :)
« Last Edit: January 19, 2012, 05:17:44 PM by The Ecclesiarch »
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Re: Inquisitorial Warbands.
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2012, 05:33:52 AM »
f.desrochers I dont think you use that set up without at least giving your Inquisitor the Hammerhand psychic power (just my two cents).

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I will stick with the Coteaz warband, also it will be a good unit to camp on my home objective :)

Giving the Inquisitor Hammerhand would run him up another XX points, which nearly doubles my current set-up for points - no dice.  In addition, I had run a psychic Inquisitor in with them and found that more times than not, psyhoods and Eldar runes would nerf the power anyways.  That's why the rad grenades won out; no need to roll dice for the effect and very rarely does the unit not wipe out or cause the unit getting hit to flee.  In this unit, Hammerhand is neither warranted, nor an effective use of points. (shrug)

Coteaz on an objective is golden, especially if you force your opponent to try and DS something in (Drop Pod et al). My last game I hit an Outflanking squad of Genestealers on their arrival and was able to soak up the charge of the three survivors.

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Re: Inquisitorial Warbands.
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2012, 08:42:27 AM »
I always run hammerhand on an inquisitor with death cults, standard they are just great but stick on hammerhand and rad grenades and their is nothing they will not mulch, it also boosts their strength so they can pen vehicle in the rear which is never bad.

Not forgetting the force weapon which makes the inquisitor pretty formidable on her own (mine is a girl), 5 power weapon attacks with reasonable str is not to be sniffed at.

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Re: Inquisitorial Warbands.
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2012, 11:38:13 PM »
I have a warband with 3 meltaguns and 5 storm bolters in a chimera at 1750.

it's cheap (133 points) and cheerful. it adds me some melta to my psycannons. I have used quite a few different models - meltagun SoB, meltagun IG, delaque necromunda models, karskin - to get a motley crew feel and I really like it.


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Re: Inquisitorial Warbands.
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2012, 08:38:09 AM »
Thanks for the replies.
What do you guys think about this setup - 9 Warriors with Stormbolters, 3 Servitors with Heavy-bolters 93pts?
If you were using Coteaz in your army you could take a few warbands armed like this to set up a mean gun line. What do you think?
« Last Edit: January 21, 2012, 08:40:19 AM by The Ecclesiarch »
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Re: Inquisitorial Warbands.
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2012, 01:35:37 PM »
It is a great idea except for mindlock. That will kind of mess up your plan. The alcolyte with a bolter or storm bolter really is one of the better choices out there.

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Re: Inquisitorial Warbands.
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2012, 02:29:27 PM »
Yes I like acolytes with bolters and flamers in rhino's, cheap and puts alot of wounds onto any infantry.

How have people found stormbolters on them? I look at them and think they are expensive compared to bolters but lots of people swear by them.

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Re: Inquisitorial Warbands.
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2012, 10:53:53 PM »
:-\ I forgot about Mindlock ... Awwhhh dammit.

Personally I havent used them.
But I would go with Stormbolters over Bolters anyday.  If you take a full warband armed with S.B's & throw in 3 Flamers or Meltaguns your only looking at 93pts, that's a deal.

The main problem with using S.B's is trying to find the models...as far as I know there arent any models in the GW range that would easily permit you to use them.
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