Topic: Rokkits/Big Shootas...worth it?

[Boss_Bannednutz]

With all the mech running about, do you guys bother putting rokkits on normal boyz mobs? That's a lot of points for a 1 in 3 chance to hit with rokkits.

[BaileyBankai, The epic ninja duck]

I dont, theyre never worth 10 pts for me. I either miss. or hit and dont would/pen. Big shootas are ok if your running shoota boyz in Bw. If your on foot most of the time your running.

[Calamity]

Rokkit launchas are sadly wasted on normal boyz. 

Terrible BS, short(ish) range and lack of real penetrating power mean that there is little point in taking them tbh.

Even with Tankbustas, I'd take tankhammers and a power klaw, and just 'make do' with the spare launchas.

[Gutstikk]

They aren't actually that bad on normal units, and if you can't grab rokkits elsewhere, they can be a nice addition, particularly to shoota boys. There are times when you're already parked on an objective, with no real need to advance at the enemy who's camping in/behind vehicles, and the rokkits will give you something useful to do.

That being said, the fast attack slots are where rokkits tend to perform the best, due to maneuverability and twin-linking. If you've already got your transport-hunters covered, you probably don't need to shell for the rokkits too badly.

[Boss_Bannednutz]

maneuverability and twin-linking. If you've already got your transport-hunters covered, you probably don't need to shell for the rokkits too badly.

Therein is the rub. Lootas are nice, but a squad is no more tough than any other, and horridly expensive, and also limited to one target per round. In higher-points games, there are just too many transports around to whack them before game-end. Against units like blood angels who move 7" inches, powerklaws need 6's. Deffkopptas are almust a must vs. mechanized these days. but for the cost of 1, I can buy 3 rokkits anyway, with better odds hitting even with twin linked. The only thing a mob losses is speed.

[Azonalanthious]

maneuverability and twin-linking. If you've already got your transport-hunters covered, you probably don't need to shell for the rokkits too badly.

Therein is the rub. Lootas are nice, but a squad is no more tough than any other, and horridly expensive, and also limited to one target per round. In higher-points games, there are just too many transports around to whack them before game-end. Against units like blood angels who move 7" inches, powerklaws need 6's. Deffkopptas are almust a must vs. mechanized these days. but for the cost of 1, I can buy 3 rokkits anyway, with better odds hitting even with twin linked. The only thing a mob losses is speed.

Hitting on 6 only with a pk is still better odds then hitting with a non-twinlinked rokkit on 5+, since with the pk you'll have 3 tries at a minimum, realisticly 4 since it will almost always be a nob or better on a charge.  The point cost of rokkets doesn't both me, but speed is lifeblood to orks.  Having to give up the run for a relatively poor chance of doing something bothers me.

[kadeton]

I like rokkits on boyz mobs for three main reasons.

First, it enables the mob to fire at transports on the way to the assault. If they immobilise the transport, great - their Nob now auto-hits with his klaw. If they blow it up, even better - now they can assault the squishies inside. If they do nothing, you haven't lost much. It's a similar situation assaulting drop-pod dreadnoughts, too - with a bit of luck you can blow off an arm, immobilise or stun it, reducing the casualties you suffer in the assault.

Second, they're great for defending objectives against pesky transports that you ignored earlier because they'd already unloaded their cargo. A rokkit boy makes a great sacrifice against tank shock by a Rhino or Chimera - the auto-hit really helps their effectiveness.

Third, they cause more casualties against Space Marines than big shootas. Yes, including all the shots you get. Since the main thing my boyz have learned to fear above all is a big unit of counter-charging Space Wolves, a couple of casualties before the fight starts goes a heck of a long way towards coming out on top.