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Here it is then.
Valar needs some motivation and there's one sure fire way to get it out of him
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We had a little sit down and came up with the following. Everything is open to change, particularly if the changes will help me beat him!
When does this start;
NOW. Valar was keen to wait until February, but this is clearly a poor excuse for delaying things until he tricks me with another week off work - his shift pattern will not doubt be my bane! Plus, I'm just finishing some bits so want to take an early lead! hah!
Who wins;
Each month we will take a sit-rep and total our points. We can break down each month to month and also keep a running total. The Challenge will go on until one of us concedes, probably due to embarrassment, or until the end of 2013!
At the end of the time limit the person with the most points wins.
In other words; me.
The Scoring;
Points are earned on a per model basis in one of 6 categories;
| Terrain | | Converting | | Painting | | Detailing | | Basing |
| 1.Infantry | - | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
| 2.Characters | - | 2 | 6 | 1 | 1 |
| 3.Monstrous | - | 2 | 6 | 1 | 1 |
| 4.Vehicles | - | 2 | 6 | 2 | - |
| 5.Terrain | 5 | - | 5 | - | - |
| 6.Gaming | +5pts the first time each painted unit is used in battle vs each other (once only) |
Notes;
Infantry category includes anything not covered by other categories such as bikes. Models on 60mm bases that fall in this category (ie; Imperial Guard Heavy Weapons Teams) earn double points, as do cavalry bikes and "monstrous" infantry models.
For 40K, Monstrous Infantry models include models on 40mm bases such as Crisis Suits, Ogryns and other similarly sized models. If in doubt, scoring will be judged by group.
Points are based on 28mm scale miniatures. Points for different scales or specials (ie Battlefleet Gothic or a 40K Titan!) will be hotly debated beforehand! Miniatures are not limited to GW.
Finally, if anyone else wants to take part in the challenge then feel free to become a groupie! Each person will be responsible to tracking their own scoring, but I will tally the scores in this thread too. Your scores can only be counted upon picture evidence (unless you also happen to live near us and one of us can witness things in person!). On that note, we will keep gaming scores separate because in order to keep things fair if anyone wants to join in.
If you do not want to take part - fret not, you can still encourage (or smack talk) us here!
| Jan 2013 | | Terrain | | Converting | | Painting | | Detailing | | Basing | | Gaming Bonus | | TOTAL |
| oink | - | 8 | 35 | 3 | 6 | - | 52 |
| Valar | - | 1 | 28 | 23 | 23 | - | 75 |
| Plastikente | - | 11 | 22 | 6 | 12 | - | 51 |
| Angel of Death 007 | - | 15 | 16 | - | 16 | - | 47 |
| - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Feb 2013 | | Terrain | | Converting | | Painting | | Detailing | | Basing | | Gaming Bonus | | TOTAL | | GRAND TOTAL |
| oink | 5 | 6 | 21 | 16 | 16 | 15 | 79 | 144 |
| Valar | - | - | 49 | 22 | 38 | 10 | 119 | 194 |
| Plastikente | - | 21 | 21 | 21 | 4 | 15 | 88 | 174 |
| Angel of Death 007 | - | - | 24 | - | - | 15 | 39 | 86 |
| LoH | - | - | 40 | - | 35 | - | 75 | 75 |
| - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| March 2013 | | Terrain | | Converting | | Painting | | Detailing | | Basing | | Gaming Bonus | | TOTAL | | GRAND TOTAL |
| oink | - | 9 | 30 | 10 | 8 | - | 57 | 201 |
| Valar | - | 2 | 6 | 1 | 1 | - | 10 | 204 |
| Plastikente | - | - | 9 | 9 | 9 | 5 | 32 | |
| Angel of Death 007 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 86 |
| LoH | 5 | - | - | - | - | - | 5 | 80 |
| - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| April 2013 | | Terrain | | Converting | | Painting | | Detailing | | Basing | | Gaming Bonus | | TOTAL | | GRAND TOTAL |
| oink | - | 6 | 30 | 4 | 2 | - | 44 | 245 |
| Valar | 5 | 4 | 34 | 14 | 14 | 15 | 86 | 300 |
| Plastikente | 23 | - | 45 | - | 5 | - | 73 | |
| Angel of Death 007 | - | 2 | 2 | - | 2 | - | 6 | 92 |
| LoH | 5 | 2 | 20 | 3 | 20 | 35 | 85 | 165 |
| - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| May 2013 | | Terrain | | Converting | | Painting | | Detailing | | Basing | | Gaming Bonus | | TOTAL | | GRAND TOTAL |
| oink | - | 0 | 38 | 29 | 27 | 15 | 109 | 354 |
| Valar | 5 | 6 | 33 | 18 | 18 | 15 | 95 | 395 |
| Plastikente | 10 | 4 | 25 | 4 | 8 | - | 51 | |
| Angel of Death 007 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 92 |
| LoH | - | 6 | 17 | 10 | 11 | - | 44 | 209 |
| - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| June 2013 | | Terrain | | Converting | | Painting | | Detailing | | Basing | | Gaming Bonus | | TOTAL | | GRAND TOTAL |
| oink | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 354 |
| Valar | - | 4 | 22 | 22 | 10 | - | 50 | 445 |
| Plastikente | - | 5 | 6 | 6 | - | - | 17 | |
| Angel of Death 007 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 92 |
| LoH | - | - | 23 | 2 | 20 | 10 | 55 | 264 |
| Sparto | - | - | 7 | 2 | 1 | - | 10 | 10 |
| Ludo | - | 1 | 40 | - | 41 | - | 82 | 82 |
| - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| July 2013 | | Terrain | | Converting | | Painting | | Detailing | | Basing | | Gaming Bonus | | TOTAL | | GRAND TOTAL |
| oink | - | 1 | 12 | 8 | 7 | - | 28 | 382 |
| Valar | - | 6 | 54 | 14 | 4 | - | 78 | 523 |
| Plastikente | - | 14 | 21 | - | 21 | - | 56 | |
| Angel of Death 007 | - | 2 | 34 | 2 | 24 | 10 | 72 | 162 |
| LoH | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 264 |
| Sparto | - | - | 3 | 3 | 3 | - | 9 | 19 |
| Ludo | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 82 |
| - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Aug 2013 | | Terrain | | Converting | | Painting | | Detailing | | Basing | | Gaming Bonus | | TOTAL | | GRAND TOTAL |
| oink | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 382 |
| Valar | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 523 |
| Plastikente | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
| Angel of Death 007 | - | 4 | 12 | 1 | 2 | - | 19 | 181 |
| LoH | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 264 |
| Sparto | - | - | 3 | 3 | 3 | - | 9 | 19 |
| Ludo | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 82 |
| Gunner_Sabot_Tank | - | 4 | 69 | 3 | 52 | - | 128 | 128 |
| - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Edit - Made table to reduce wall of text.
28.01.2013 - Gaming scoring system under review TBC
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BTW Oink there are no points on offer for painting the Bathroom... your DIY escapades count for nothing here... they are nothing but just a real life distraction to keep you from painting and I will be encouraging your
slave driver wife to crack that DIY whip and make sure you have your priorities right.
I knew you had sneaky hijinks up your sleeve being eager to start now... fear not for I had anticipated this and have a few things easily completable soon aswell.
Good so we have the scoring system in place, we have the motivation and now we have an audience in front of which you can have your pants pulled down!
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Gooo Oink!!!!!
Uphold the honour of the Greater Good!
robo
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Oh boy, I can't wait to see what you guys produce (verbally and artistically speaking). Go Valar! Show that piggy whose boss!
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BTW Oink there are no points on offer for painting the Bathroom... your DIY escapades count for nothing here... they are nothing but just a real life distraction to keep you from painting and I will be encouraging your slave driver wife to crack that DIY whip and make sure you have your priorities right.
Man, if it was just painting I had to do I'd be happy. No, this is a full refit - there is building, converting, painting AND basing involved! I could win on that alone!
I knew you had sneaky hijinks up your sleeve being eager to start now... fear not for I had anticipated this and have a few things easily completable soon aswell.
With your shift work and time off I need all the help I can get! And anyway - no one calls my wife a slave driver....
...except for me.
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So I stayed up a little extra late tonight just so I could sneak this one in under Oinks radar and irritate him deliciously by scoring the first points right under his nose!! Two can play at his sneaky hijinks games.
Since his premature challenge declaration ive been working away buisilly like a beslubberingly busy bee to finish of my first squad of DE warriors. 10 of!
30 points please Oink. 10 models, all based, all with extra details like posion vials, glow effect.
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Happy Dance and victory song!! I got the first points nerr nerr ne nerrr nerrr!!!!!
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I really like that whip! looks great. Good start... but you're gonna need a few more late nights me thinks... I've got a few things just around the corner... I'm not as far behind as you might think! ;)
EDIT;
OKay, so spurred on to take some WiP shots. Thanks a lot Valar.
I've finished painting three gun servitors. Without wanting to sound like a raging homo, I like their bums. They also feature bruised skin around the metal punctures. But don't reckon that counts enough for detailing...
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I'm also part way through this guy...
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converted to be striding - including the necessary green stuff on the pilots legs. Dreadknights should be worth double when converting - they are a pain. No? Oh well, will just have to do two of them then...
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(this guy is converted too... in case you don't believe me.. SEE HERE (https://www.facebook.com/iPaintmodels))
3 points Woot!
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Oink I have to say, love the skin on the servitors. Very ravaged from their manipulation to their machines. NBice bruising and suitably sore looking. Also I know what you mean about liking their bums... as weird as that is to say... but areas like that lend themselves well to blending/ highlighting which in turn is fun.
Also im always jealous of some of the things you get to paint for your commissions,... all those contemptors and whats this your 3/4/5th dreadknight? lucky you
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I was thinking looking at the Deldar that you are so going to get your ass kicked Oink, but....your stuff is great too. I can see this will be closer than I thought.
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Awesome start to the challenge both of you! Really great to see such good, early progress.
Valar, I do believe that I am as much in love with your purple Dark Eldar as any of your yellow Eldar. I love the fact that compared to the bases, the purple almost looks warm and welcoming, which is odd as I normally see it as a very cold colour. And yup, I'm the same as Oink, I just love the whip!
Oink, nice everything, but definitely nice buttocks. There's nothing else to say!
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Thanks for the kind words all - those pictures aren't very good - once the basing is completed on them I will take proper pictures.
Anyway,
This Bones;
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The above is (afaik) not a GW model. The skeletons are removable, and so is the howdah - which sits on top quite sturdily without any help from pins or magnets etc. The crew have been converted to be a single piece, and can therefore be replaced by a single character model! I've erred on the side of caution and not counted the crew as extra infantry - that wouldn't be fair - but they'd at least count for converting.
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These were started a little while back - but finished up with some final bits and pieces this side of the challenge (I didn't plan this immediate start by accident you know!)
I have a few more things nearing completion soon too. In the mean time though - I will be preparing blog posts at iPaintmodels (http://www.ipaintmodels.blogspot.co.uk) to show more pictures of each of these. be sure to check in there every now and then - or you can subscribe (or follow) in order to get automatic updates.
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Oh I see how it is... drybrushing your way to victory ;)
JK, that aside I do like the elephant skellie model. Not seen one like that before. and also nice shields simple but effetctive
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Oh I see how it is... drybrushing your way to victory ;)
JK, that aside I do like the elephant skellie model. Not seen one like that before, and also nice shields simple but effetctive
Epic fail.
Look at that animal again!
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Lol alright... I like your elephant giraffe and rhino love child model then
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I want to get involved! I have no idea what I want to paint, but please count me in. I also don't think my point scores are going to be anywhere near you two, but I like to have a bit of motivation to keep me shuffling on with my list of painting.
@Valar - your Kabalites are awesome! I love the glowing effects.
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Welcome my friend. Glad we've incentivised you to get and keep you motivated. I tell you its working a treat for me, the risk of being shamed by Oink the nancy is a very powerful motivator indeed. Will be good to have you aboard. I will hope to see lots of your tau stuff, I really like the scheme you have going there!
Thanks for your compliments on the Dark Eldar :) its great to receive comments like that!
Right now without giving too much info away so Oink can go off scheming yet more shenanigans to trump us, Im working on some Ork Stormboyz for the WOTW unit of the month thread. Pics soon
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Holy crap, I think this thread has just struck me impotent. Following this to the end.
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Welcome Plastikente! now get painting! lol!
I would suggest that each person keep a record of their own personal painting log - using the scoring table presented above might be a good idea - that way you can keep track of how many points you have scored for each category independantly - whilst the second table I have in the first post can kep a track of just the totals. Just because that way we can use all the data to plot what people are painting to earn their points etc... and come up with all sorts of interesting time wasting pie charts and graphs! (which I vote that Valar should put together to get him away from his paint brushes!) lol!
In other news:
Bam:
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One converted Necron destroyer lord with extensive detailing and weathering as well as some attempt at dull OSL. No basing though, as the client wanted him on a clear flying base.
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I will hope to see lots of your tau stuff, I really like the scheme you have going there!
I'll have to buy some more Tau then, just to keep you happy ;)
My Christmas project has been turning some old DE Grotesques and Mandrakes into new Wracks (see my project blog (http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=224949.0)). I converted 17 of them before Christmas, finished painting 6 in Dec, 6 more in Jan, and I have 5 left to do. It's a bit cheeky to try and back-date my points though, so I'll just mark myself for painting and painting them when they're done.
Also on my to-do list are my Christmas presents: 1 Lilith Hesperax, 1 Sslyth and 1 Haemonculus. On top of that, I'm modelling a steampunk-themed Escher gang for Necromunda.
EDIT: I don't quite understand the gaming section of the scoring - is that just the battle performance of the minis we've painted? And does the game have to be against someone else in The Challenge to count?
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The gaming section of the scoring was based as an incentive for myself and Oink to not only make the most of our painting but make the most of th ehobby as a whole... Both of us played schockingly few games in total last year....... and myself I only played 2 games of 6th ed and him only a few more.
The way that the scoring for gaming works is thus... for the first appearance (and only the first appearance) that a freshly painted squad makes it onto the battle field in a game it scores you another 10 points. Now for myself and Oink we intended this to be against eachother as we could verify it... however with other contenders joining then I would argue that if you can provide picture evidence of them mid battle then you are eligable for those points. But remebmer one unit can only score you points in this way once!
I think also it should be posted in this way chronologically...
The unit painted must be showcased here as complete first and then after that the unit can be pictured mid game...
Hope that clears things up?
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yes, except that the bonus for a units first gaming appearance is 5pts. not 10.
We were originally thinking that if others decided to get involved (that weren't local to us) then we would count the gaming scores separately from all painting scores. That way anyone can join in and worry only about the painting - as Valar said, the gaming section was a way to get us playing more... and only works online assuming others are all honest and above board (because the scores for winning or losing make a big difference).
What we would probably do is allow everyone to count a gaming score and bonus - but score this separate;y from the painting element to keep things separate.
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Just a quick pic to show my stuff is actually WIP and not already done.
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Keen eyed among you should spot some finished models... but waiting on whole unit before photography
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I like the idea of a bonus for getting units on the table, but it does become more difficult if we're going to score for wins/draws/loses. I would be happy to tally those numbers separately, or even not at all.
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8 more models to report complete... Oink I cant remember exactly what we discussed but our scores table has a building section... does this count for building models aswell.. i.e build 10 infantry thats another 10 points? Just need clarification before I declare a score on this lot.
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Valar your painting is really awe inspiring. I thought your DE were brilliant but there is something about the Orks that just makes me go wow! The bases are fantastic as well.
On a separate note if you want to win this competition wait until you are a few points ahead then post that you really wish that Fire Warriors had a ballistic skill of 4 and Oink will lock this thread immediately giving you a default win :D
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Nah, the building section only relates to terrain. The rest of the units are covered by the "converted" tab - because everyone knows that any real model has to be converted! hehe!
I'll add these to your score (begrudgingly) once you tally them up. I can see that it looks like most of them have some sort of detailing on them such as chevrons and checkerboard patterns etc. Particularly like the numbering on one of the shoulder guards! All nicely weathered and toned to boot!
Finally I'll let you know that I also have TWO dreadknights a few sittings away from completion - being slowed down by virtue of the fact that I am also working on building up other models!
This is a real flurry of activity!
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And bringing up the rear, it's me.
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I've finished painting and basing 5 Wracks. They are converted, but as I did that before I signed up for The Challenge, I'm not going to claim the points. Also, how detailed does detailing have to be? These guys all have glowing tubes/vials, which required 4 separate colour layers over the base. If that's enough effort to claim detail, then I'll have 15 points, otherwise it's just 10 for me.
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I'm not quite sure if that counts as sufficient detailing. :-\
For me, thats just painting a vial. (the dreadknights im working on have about 7 layers just to paint their armour, but I whilst that is detailed painting I would not consider that to be paintingdetailing.. . however adding iconography would be).
If there was also say a OSL effect off of them, or the guys had tattoos or other freehand detailing then. When we were talking about "detailing" Valar mentioned significant freehand or OSL, but I expanded that to the use of transfers and weathering. I've seen your Tau, and for the most part, the models would definately count as having additional detail - you've got squad markings and camouflage to name but two things!
Even if you don't go all the way to OSL, if those vials had additional painted detail - such as bubbles etc. then you may have a case but for this I'd be harsh and say not yet. Don't forget though, you can always ADD detail to models that you have already completed at a later date and claim the points for the detailing then.
Nevertheless, I will add your current total in to the mix! keep it up Plastikente, you don't want to get left lagging behind or you may be in danger of making me look good!
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I'm not quite sure if that counts as sufficient detailing. :-\
Fair enough - I thought that would be the case, but if you don't ask...
Personally, I'm happy enough with those models as they are, so I don't think I will go back at any point and add more detail.
I've seen your Tau, and for the most part, the models would definately count as having additional detail - you've got squad markings and camouflage to name but two things!
Looks like everyone wants me to paint more Tau ;) Sadly, I've got a lot on my to-do list first.
And my next effort! (Click to see larger image)
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This one was actually inspired by you, O:nk. I saw the model when you painted it as a commission last year, and I thought it was really cool. The chainsword and bolter came from the Space Marine Scout sprue (only option I could find amongst my friends) so I had to cut down the chainsword (too chunky) and remove the hands from the bolter. This model is going to be the Gang Leader for my Escher Gang, and I painted her to my character standard, so I would like to score her as such: converted(2)+painted(6)+based(1)=9. Any objections?
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Looks great! and a very nice conversion! I would proabbly say that this model does have detailing - you've painted sheen material on her tights. I know (as you saw in my commission for this gang) that this is actually quite a tricky thing to get right and you've made a pretty good effort at it.
I tried it in black and white and it took a long while to get the tones right. The trick, which it looks like you followed, is to paint the skin as normal and then use very opaque paint layers to feed into the recesses. It's really difficult getting your head around the fact that you are not actually painting shadows!
Updating scores...
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Just a small update from me re. the progress of storm boyz. Im up to 9 done now so in conjunction with the 2 Nobz finished aswell a further 33 points.
x 11 infantry... painted 1pt, based 1pt, detailed 1pt
I believe that takes my running score for this month up to 63
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Just when I thought I might be catching up, Valar disappears into the distance...
Anyway, I finished Lelith last night:
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Painted, based and detailed (freehand tats) character = 8 points. So I'm beating O:nk! (For now at least...)
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Nice lilleth, Ive had one lying about for around a year and yours is making me want to see if I can find it lol. Nice touch with the tattoos its a nice addition that makes this thoroughly Dark Eldar and not just a scantily clad attractive woman with her bum and tits out :)
I myself just finished the last of the storm Boyz! Thats 3 more points please so I should now be on 66.... pics to follow.
In other related news I also just brough a Boss Zagstrukk model on ebay for under a tenner (finecast though) so I guess we'll see just how much extra work Ive made myself with that one trying to save a few pennies lol. Looking forward to his arrival
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I'm quite fond of the Lelith model too, and not just because of her feminine wiles ;) Her stance is very dynamic - ready to fight at close quarters without just being another variation on "run at the enemy waving your weapons" (which almost all GW action sculpts are, whatever the army). I added the tats because I thought the vast tracts of skin were looking a bit bare... Or perhaps just because I needed that extra point to nudge ahead of O:nk ;D
Anyway, I'm continuing to work through my Christmas presents. Here is my next completed model:
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As always, the colour scheme is to match my existing army. I couldn't resist turning that coat into a patchwork, with the blue bits being Tau victims, and the brown being swarthy humans/whatever else might have nice dark brown skin once cured. I was tempted to patch some Orks in too, but the green would have jarred a bit too much. This fella also has a minor conversion: I cut off the blade he comes with and drilled through his fist. I then threaded a cut-down Dark Eldar spear through the hole and glued the blade back on, turning his miscellaneous knifey thing into a power axe.
So that gives me another character, converted, painted and based: 9 more points, bringing my total to 37.
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Man that is brilliant. I'm comparing your Haemonculus with the one on GW website and I can't see much of a difference in quality. Any chance you can post larger pictures or maybe a close up of the cloak.
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I myself just finished the last of the storm Boyz! Thats 3 more points please so I should now be on 66.... pics to follow.
already trying to cash cheques you haven't reant yet!? photos first, points later! hehe!
I must say Plasti... that lileth model is great, good job on those tattoos they look really good!
I'm about to take some snaps of a jokaero, the now based servitors and one of the completed (and converted) dreadknights...
but seriously, you guys need to slow down a bit, I can't keep up! Gonna have to try to find some big ticket items!!!
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Man that is brilliant. I'm comparing your Haemonculus with the one on GW website and I can't see much of a difference in quality. Any chance you can post larger pictures or maybe a close up of the cloak.
I'm glad you like it :D I don't claim to match 'Eavy Metal standard (not got a steady enough hand or the patience to use enough finely graded layers), but I'm very happy with him. If you look at my Flickr Photostream (via my sig) you can see these photos (and more) at a much greater resolution. If you would still like more detail shots after that, just PM me and I'll see about taking/uploading some more.
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@Plastikente, I really like your haemonculus.. im not really a fan of the model apart from urien rakarth, I think maybe its the head its not evil enough on the model. However you have done a great job with it nd made it work with a good strong scheme. glad you didnt go for the Ork skin as the addition of a second shade of green would be too much I think and detract.... better leave it to just dead Tau! Also you must be starting to worry Oink now with this flurry of activity....first of all I think he knew he'd end up second to me this month despite his shenanigans but now he may well end behind you too.... ;D
and speaking of you Mister Piggy
I myself just finished the last of the storm Boyz! Thats 3 more points please so I should now be on 66.... pics to follow.
already trying to cash cheques you haven't reant yet!? photos first, points later! hehe!
haha I have to say I find your delaying tactics humerous, but soon youre going to have to stop playing your silly points refusal games and focus on catching us two up.... Here are your pictures now no more of your sillyness!
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Thanks for looking
P.S points please Oink
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Awesome job guys. Valar I really like the orks. I have been looking for something to motivate me as I have more projects then I can count and need a swift kick to get them started and finished. I might have to join you but I know I can't keep up with how fast all of you put out models.
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Added those extra points. those orks look fantastic. the detailing on teh jets is great... good work on the checkers and the classic style flames.
Unfortunately, my plans to upload images were foiled last night by two events - one was my computer deciding that is is screwed (I can only seem to get it to work on safe mode (with networking)) which was causing me no end of worry... and the other being that I spent the evening painting two greatsword blades only to decide that I didn't like them enough and repainting them white to start again with a new colour!!!
I do currently have an extra 15points waiting to be uploaded... and a further 10 once the second knight is completed... so I'm not as far behind as you may think... Though this is exactly indicative of how our last challenge went, with you providing a steady stream of models and me providing fewer updates consisting of big batches!
i'm going to have to pull this back by laying beat down on you across the table me thinks!
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Don't be discouraged by the productivity! that's exactly opposite the mentality!
We will likely be breaking down the scoring tables so that each month is calculated separately. Then Valar and I can still total up all of our points across the different months - but others can still jump in during a month and try to beat a monthly score - rather than the running total...
At the very least, you can just use this as a benchmark to try to paint more one month than you did the last!
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BAM (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=455774291143742&set=a.334438823277290.83712.309286665792506&type=1&theater)
(follow the link to a sneak peek pic of BOTH dreadknights. converted, painted and detailed.)
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@Valar - the Orks are great. I really like the dark skin tone and the details are superbly executed.
@O:nk - the preview of the Dreadknights is looking really good. If you've got 15pts ready to upload then I'm going to have to find some stuff I can finish before the end of the month to give you a run for your money ;)
@Angel of Death 007 (and anyone else). Feel free to join in. I certainly think it's a case of the more, the merrier. I'm not sure that I'll be able to maintain my current rate of painting for the rest of the year so don't assume you'll get left behind (and if you do, you can always claim that you did it to make O:nk feel better - that's certainly my plan). Anyway, you might be suprised how easily the points rack up - I was.
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Yes Oink very nice work indeed on those dreadknights, your power weapon blends are getting better with each pass. I would like to know the choice of blue you use to do them.
Zagstrukk arrived yesterday and my God is finecast hit and miss... probably the worst cast Ive had and I will have to be doing significant work to get him ready. the main thing I dislike with finecast is the texture it seems to leave after painting its not smooth like metal or plastic... i'll be trying a couple of coats of surface primer and a varnish before undercoating him. Had to replace all the pipes/cables/wires with some plastic rod which luckily I had left and then fill holes in most of his muscles.... I wont be cheeky and claim 2points for converting as he is as seen but the amount of prework going into him he deserves at least 1 conversion point.
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Im torn between giving bonus points for doing finecast... or telling you hard luck and better luck getting a good cast next time! Lol
As for those blades, they are done with only 3 colours: white, ice blue and hawk torquise.
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Maybe this is just the swift kick in the butt I need to not only get my many projects finished, but also to learn 6th edition....
So I am IN
I am going to claim 5 points for gaming for a Draw on the giant apocalypse battle I was in on January 12 seen here...
Highlights from our massive 38,000 point apocalypse match (http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=225290.0)
I also converted 15 gretchin using gnoblars as the basis, fantasy gretchin heads, and cut off arms to add gretchin weapons and dwarf thunderer guns. I also converted a few of the night goblin guys into the mix. The runtherder was not converted but was one of the orks in the old chariot, seemed fitting.
No idea how detail scoring works or what consists as detailing. I did do their eyes, teef, and one got a cool bottle painted up nice. I also got them all based...
So....
Gaming : 5 pts draw
Konverting: 15 pts (15 gretchin infantry)
Painting: 16 pts (15 gretchin and a runtherder)
Basing: 16 pts (15 gretchin and a runtherder).
Detailing ?? to be determined i guess...
I started on several other projects but was not able to finish them, maybe next month.. Other projects started included:
-doing the skin on my Ogre Leadbelchers
-painted all the details on the cargo area and the cockpit of one of my vendettas plus built it afterwards
-started konverting some of my thunderwolf cavalry for my chaos space wolves plus got some cool bases for them
-started painting my Aegis wall (not sure how that will score out point wise?)
-painted most of my manticore I bought myself for the holiday, won't get it finished this month but next month I should have it done nicely.
Maybe next month I can give you a good run for your money....
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Okay, to clarify detailing, this is significant freehand or additional painted detailing or techniques over and above painting the detail of the model itself. For example, painting a models skin, face, teeth and eyes is considered painting the detail of the model. Adding significant tattoos or intricate patterns to skin or cloth is painting in additional detail.
Other things that would be considered additional detailing include using transfers or weathering.
Ultimately when you post pictures of the models we will be able to see if youve tried enough detailing for the points and award them or not.
The other impotant thing i want to stress is that you dont have to be awesome good at detailing. We arent saying you have to getvit looking golden demon standard. It is about encouraging you to try out detailing techniques, you can always get help improving, but you need to start somewhere!
Finally, we were debating whether or not to count gaming scores for everyone or not (we had put those in to try and get valar and me to play vs each othrr). Cant remember what was decided in the end.
The trouble with gaming scores in general is verification... we could remove the gaming scores completely (this is the painting board after all) although potentially keep the painted unit bonus (first time used in battle with supply of picture evidence)??
Whilst we decide what to do with gaming ill get to work adding your already sizeable paint score on!
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sorry Angel, id have to agree with Oink here. The point of the scores for detailing is to encourage things such as free hand, OSL, weathering or sheer clothing effects (such as Plastikente has done) not for painting the models details. That being said I like what youve done in making each gretchin a character of their own. Particularly like the smashed bottle.
As for gaming scores, I think now that its open to everyone as a painting challenge perhaps we should drop the gaming scores, I think it would be good to still offer points for the first time a unit thats painted for this challenge is used in battle (on provision of evidential photos)
As we are drawing near to the end of the first month of competition I would like to continue adding to my score in the hopes that Oink cant catch me up to take the first month. I will claim another 9 points for Boss Zagstrukk.... Painting character 6 points, converting 1 point, basing 1 point, detailing 1 point.... should take the total to 75
Will edit this post within the day to include the pics.
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For gaming scores, I reckon 5 pts for first use is fair. That's easy to prove with a photo - and if this Challenge becomes so important that you want to fake that to get a few points then you probably want to re-examine your priorities...
But then I thought, 5 pts per unit, or 5 pts per model? Maybe you can have a maximum of 5 points each month for getting a fresh model onto the gaming table for the first time - that would encourage us to do it without skewing the totals too much. Thoughts?
I have a WIP photo for you all (not claiming any points yet - still some highlighting to do):
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These are my Escher Juves. As you can see, I have gone for a fairly subdued colour scheme to tie in to my steampunk theme. My question is, do they need a splash of colour? I was thinking of maybe giving them bright hair. What do people think? Will that add life to the models or just look out of place? And if so, should they all get the same colour, or do they get a different colour each?
Feedback would be appreciated, but I am hoping to claim the points for finishing these before the end of the month, so be quick ;)
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I really like those ladies, always had a thing for those jes goodwin sculpts. I would leave the hair personally and give them matching gangland tattoos. I think that would be just the ticket and gain you some extra points?
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@plastikente, definately bright hair, u got more warm tones maybe a teal color blue hair might work. Make them pop.
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I agree with Xavian, leave the hair as it is and add tattoos. I don't think very bright hair would be apt for people living and fighting in the underhive. Unless you can make it bright and very dirty.
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So here it is, my last update of this month. I sort of mixed the advice that people gave me about finishing off the Juves, giving 3 of them teal-ish hair (but no that bright), and also going for tattoos and some other freehand detailing on loin cloths/clothing. All of the detailing was gear-wheel based, to tie in the steampunk theme for the gang. I think I have a long way to improve with my detailing, and I might have to invest in a magnifying glass, but as O:nk pointed out, this is about trying things out and improving.
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Painted, based and detailed on loin cloth and shoulder - 3pts.
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Painted, based, detailed on loin cloth and back of vest and converted (made a little top hat out of green stuff) - 4pts. I included an extra box-out of the face because the focus wasn't quite on in the whole-model shot.
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Another conversion - I was forced to give her a new gun because she was missing that when I bought her. I think the splinter pistol actually looks like a reasonable steampunk ray gun (=laspistol). Then I gave her some goggles made out of green stuff. Also painted, based and detailed on stomach, loin cloth and left buttock. 4 pts.
Which gives me 14pts for these models, and 51 in total.
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@Plastikente, I like the tattoos and the blue hair i think really works with the models, personally
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Thanks. I played around with a few colours on paint over the WIP shot which I already posted, and decided that blue was the only combo I liked. The unintended consequence of that is that I have basically turned turquoise into a theme colour through the gang so far (except the dark-skinned Juve). So now I have to decide whether to maintain that for future models, or break away. But that's a decision for next month...
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So the beginning of a new month in the challenge thread. Janurary has yielded all the points it is going to and has now run dry... February now holds a tantalising opporutnity for fresh points. The scores go back to 0 to give every one a chance to win the month starting from a level footing. Who will win february's prize? Have a go the person who wins the most months out of the 12 available is the winner of the challenge year!
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Is there anyway of keeping a total running score for the year? I know it would be nice to be able to look back and see just just how many points we had.
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Oinks table of scores should be kept available on the first page so you can always see each months total..(each month will have a table like January's)......
Then at the end we will add up everyones scores so they can see exactly how many points were scored over the year.
Also by showing each months score you will always know what you managed the previous month and can aim to better it
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Okay so January saw me round off the month with finishing a Jokaero... just painting and basing for 2 points!! not really much else that can be done with it to be honest!
I'm having trouble with my camera at the moment but do not want to delay any further so that we can get stuck in to February... I'll update you gys with the Jokaero picture in due course but for now lets have a quick January Run down:
January 2013 run down:
| Jan 2013 | | Building | | Converting | | Painting | | Detailing | | Basing | | Gaming | | Gaming Bonus | | TOTAL |
| oink | - | 8 | 35 | 3 | 6 | - | - | 52 |
| Valar | - | 1 | 28 | 23 | 23 | - | - | 75 |
| Plastikente | - | 11 | 22 | 6 | 12 | - | - | 51 |
| Angel of Death 007 | - | 15 | 16 | - | 16 | - | - | 47 |
| - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
So, at the end of January Valar is off to a great start with Plastikente and myself just about within sniffing distance. A great throw down start by Angel of Death shows that he certainly has the capability to throw down some big scores!!! Its interesting to see where the points totals are coming from too - with Plastikente and Angel of Death liking to concentrate on conversions whilst Valar is enjoying detailing each model he paints! Meanwhile my own high painting tally is coming from working on larger scale models...
I will keep this month on the front page too for prosperity, but will add a second chart for fabuary which will allow us to track items as with this table, but also total everything up for a running total.
I've got a few things nearing completion and a lot of painting that needs to be done this month so here's hoping I can get more done that you guys!
oink out for now... and happy painting!!
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So close! I'll get you next month, O:nk...
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So close! I'll get you next month, O:nk...
Just to uh play devils advocate here.... That 1 point that Oink beat you by Plastikente is being held by a Jokaero model that we have yet to see pics of..... Whos claiming points without Pics now Oink ;) ;D
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like I said, only 'cos it's not right for me to throw the model into feb, and i'm having trouble with my camera at the moment. Got a new one and will be taking snaps of the completed models shortly... including a draigo i've just finished to go into February...
Also, you might be in trouble this month Valar... I've got so much stuff to paint this month it's not even funny... I'm not sure how I'm going to get it all done to be honest! but more than that - I found a great GW garden of morr terrain box set in my cupboard... morr by name and by nature, the instructions list it as having a statue, 3 buildings and a set of walls / gates. That's 5 different terrain sets all in one box! cha-ching!
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As promised, here's the picture of the Jokaero from last month.
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Also, here's a finished Draigo! no converting... but I've done sufficient blending on the sword blade, and hand painted scroll work on about a billion purity seals to qualify for the detail score even if I do say so myself!
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Working on more stuff as we speak... but please don't go and pull out another 15 converted grots!!!
(ps: on that note, I've updated the January table to show the gaming bonus of +5pts for Angel showing us pictures of his converted and completed grot unit in action... Sorry Plastikente!)
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@Oink.. no i have several conversions I am working on but right now I had to put a lot on hold due to trying to get my orks ready for a tourny. I am trying to paint i think 11 burna boyz, a dakka jet, and a battlewagon by next weekend, doubt all that will happen but we will see. No real conversions in that lot.
As far as the plus 5 points, I did use my grots in the apocalypse battle, however, it was not after they were completed, so in all fairness I don't deserve the points for using the finished models.
If we are doing points for gaming itself, then yes, but I won't claim points for something that wasn't so.
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okay, fixed points then... dont forget you can get them into play in any month and get the points though!
also, this morning was fun:
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20 easy points from a box of models I forgot I had! painting will have to go on the back burner though (common theme with my terrain :() as I've got to paint 15 terminators this month (and the rest!!!)
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I thought the 5 points for scenery was for stuff one custom built? Didn't know it included putting together boxed kits. Interesting.
@ Oink.... 20 points for building part of one box set... ::) I will refrain from commenting on that one ;)
I am trying to get several projects finished before the tournament next Saturday 2/16. Because I am playing allies in the tournament I have to get several units completed as I am trying some new stuff. I got a lot done so far and am making some way on my projects. Here is what is in the works
-2 chimeras
-manticore
-vendetta
-burna boyz
-dakka jet
-battlewagon
Doubt I can get all this painted by next Saturday but we will see just how far I can get without burning myself out.
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I thought we were starting up a new thread for the new month - must have got the wrong end of the stick.
I've made a slow start - nothing completed yet. I did manage to get all the Dark Eldar painted last month onto the table though, and forgot to take any pictures! If it adds any weight to my claim, I can tell you that the Wracks bailed out a unit which had been assaulted by Wraithguard (posion weapons are great), Lelith annihilated a squad of Swooping Hawks in assault, but was shot to pieces the following turn by Dire Avengers, and the Haemonculus and the Wyches he was escorting did almost nothing after their transport got shot down in turn 2.
What was the final decision on points for gaming? Max of 5 per month for a first outing?
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I thought the 5 points for scenery was for stuff one custom built? Didn't know it included putting together boxed kits. Interesting.
@ Oink.... 20 points for building part of one box set... ::) I will refrain from commenting on that one ;)
The building terrain section (and terrain painting scores) were really a way for he and i to be encouraged to finish our gaming tables and populate them... at the moment we are playing on my half finished terrain that is all bare plastic and it doesn't look great when we spend so much time and effort completing armies!
We decided against the points per box set as that would not be fair for certain sets - ie; the cities of death sector would be worh as much as a single building set from the same range.
I was entirely happy to have 5pts for the entire set... until I looked at the instructions within and they described each mosoleum (or however its spelt) as a separate building with its own set of instructions! ;D So that box set is particularly cheeky - I am not going to deny that at all - but I'm absolutely determined to make sure Valar doesn't run away with this by any means possible!
In fairness, the building (and painting) of a terrain piece, (even out of a kit) - is still worth only as much as converting and painting a character, or vehicle - and with units you also get the gaming bonus plus have something towards a completed army - as such the incentive for completing terrain needs to be suitably rewarding too.
I am trying to get several projects finished before the tournament next Saturday 2/16. Because I am playing allies in the tournament I have to get several units completed as I am trying some new stuff. I got a lot done so far and am making some way on my projects. Here is what is in the works
-2 chimeras
-manticore
-vendetta
-burna boyz
-dakka jet
-battlewagon
That is a bucket load of models! I look foward to seeing how far you get with everything! for the purposes of the challenge (even if not for the tournament) you can claim points for some sections in one month, whilst leaving other sections till later - for example you could get points for painting models and leave basing / detailing to be completed another month. Of course, if your tournament requires fully completed models anyway then we hould expect a bumper score from your this month! (and then hopefully some burnout to give the rest of us a chance to catch up!
Also, I thought it'd be easier to just carry this on as we go, so I don't need to keep reposting items from the initial thread?? what do you guys think is the best way to display stuff?
For gaming - each unit gains +5bonus points for the first time it is used in a game. The unit has to be painted and show pictoral evidence to qualify. Plastikente you dozer.... remember your camera next time (we will say it is the first time you showed evidence of them being usesd in a game... as opposed to their first actual game)
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I thought the 5 points for scenery was for stuff one custom built? Didn't know it included putting together boxed kits. Interesting.
@ Oink.... 20 points for building part of one box set... ::) I will refrain from commenting on that one ;)
The building terrain section (and terrain painting scores) were really a way for he and i to be encouraged to finish our gaming tables and populate them... at the moment we are playing on my half finished terrain that is all bare plastic and it doesn't look great when we spend so much time and effort completing armies!
We decided against the points per box set as that would not be fair for certain sets - ie; the cities of death sector would be worh as much as a single building set from the same range.
I was entirely happy to have 5pts for the entire set... until I looked at the instructions within and they described each mosoleum (or however its spelt) as a separate building with its own set of instructions! ;D So that box set is particularly cheeky - I am not going to deny that at all - but I'm absolutely determined to make sure Valar doesn't run away with this by any means possible!
In fairness, the building (and painting) of a terrain piece, (even out of a kit) - is still worth only as much as converting and painting a character, or vehicle - and with units you also get the gaming bonus plus have something towards a completed army - as such the incentive for completing terrain needs to be suitably rewarding too.
Come on I think we all knew that Oink would pull whatever shenanigans he could to get as many points for as little work as possible... well fair to say he's found his way to a loophole to get 20 points for 20 minutes work by putting together a few walls.... hrmmm I myself would consider 5 points to be a fairer reflection for this as it is one box set of terrain... i mean myself for example will be painting the crashed aquila lander set from maccrage and this has multiple sections to it but i'll still only be claiming the 5 points for the one terrain piece.
Anyway enough of rising to the bait and having a bite at Oink for his deviant behaviour... Its been a slow start to this month for me having suffered man flu and having a weekend unfriendly shift period. However so far I have managed to get 11 Slugga boyz finished so its not all doom and gloom. I have another 10 waiting to go and i guess my ultimate goal for the month is to get 30 done but that might be a touch unrealistic.
@Angel of death, Jees man thats a heck of alot of stuff you are trying to get done and I should think wrap you up this month if you succeed!! I dont think I could compete against that!!
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Bowing to pressure (and my own guilt at looping a fast one) I've dropped the points down to 5 for the terrain. I'd fully admit that I would be happy with that, particularly on account of the fact that there really wasn't much to this! hehe! - plus I reckon I can get more than Valar this month and don't want this to be sullied!!!
In any case, I reckon Angel will have us all done and dusted soon enough anyway!
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I dunno guys, I got a good lead on the manticore, but am lost for how I want to paint the missiles. I did a standard cadia style camo scheme, but I almost want to do the missiles either with a hint of yellow somewhere so black and silver with some sort of yellow tip, or black and white with a red tip. Suggestions?
The chimeras I will probably put the decals on them and call it a day, they seemed to turn out pretty good. The vendetta I am mostly done with but stuck if I want to do the gun and accent color in black or boltgun and then i dunno about what kinda decals to do. I will probably go back at a later date and do something on the side near the cockpit (a lady or something) if not maybe the mouth with teeth. But I don't have the time for that this month at all. I did paint the whole interior before building it so it will turn out awesome so I already have a lot of hours invested in it.
My ork dakka jet is probably going to be the last thing I try to complete. I want to do a checkered finish somewhere on it or in several places, and I want to do flames on the wings and probably the back fins as well. I see a lot of hours going into this and don't think it is even remotely practical this week.
The battlewagon is in between also, i did get some work started on it though.
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I painted the missiles on mine by spraying them white and working on them like that. I ended up giving a simple wash over the body of the misile because a solid bright white wasn't looking quite right... but I kept the tips bright white and painted a rim of red around the bottom. I think a black and white chequer pattern somewhere will also look good - think of classic intercontinental ballistic missiles... You can see some pics of mine HERE (http://oinksterrain.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Manticore)
Also, with the chimeras (and tanks in general) I encourage you to try your hand at some basic sponge weathering. its not too difficult to achieve but really does add a lot to the model. It does take a little bit of practice (because you really also need to highlight the paint chips. Check out some of my other guard vehicles on that blog.
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That is a very nice manticore. I really like the work you did on your guard Oink. I figure since my guard army has basically only battled unpainted or primed, I will start out with their vehicles semi clean. The problem is I am not sure what I am going to do for their bases, and I want to tie the tanks in. If they are urban then I can't really mud them up. I don't see me doing mud or earth tone bases as the army itself is going to be mostly camo. Yes I know it would work with the camo, however, I like the bases to have some contrast with the model. So until then I think they are going to get a pretty basic paint job. Maybe some detailing at a later date when the army starts to come together more. (Not to mention I am trying to get as much painted nicely by 2/16 as I can).
So here are the two chimeras I needed to paint for my upcoming tourney. I finished them tonight and did some more work on my burnas and manticore.
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That should nab me a solid 12 points and put me a little closer to my goal.
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Right, finished something:
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3 old-style Reaver Jetbikes, all converted (only minor arm swaps, and one head), and detailed (free-hand markings in orange on the cowlings). I've magnetised them to go on skimmer bases, but I like to leave those clear and untouched, so no points to be had there. That gives me 3x3xdouble points because they're bikes: 18pts.
If I stick to my master plan and get the remaining 6 done this month I'll have beaten last months total without having to complete anything else :)
Also, I've got some XV8 battlesuits in the pipeline (but probably not this month). Can I have double points for them? They are at least twice as tall and wide as Fire Warriors, even if they only have the same number of arms and legs ;D
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So just past the halfway point of the month and Im wondering how people are doing? I fear everyone is hard at work and being far too productive.
As for my months endeavors to this point, I have been tirelessly slaving away on the thankless and unending task of painting Ork Boyz. Today I have managed to reach the 20 Boyz mark which is a great 60points for me but im wondering if the 60 points is worth the green spots that I now see everywhere I look.
Also I started work on converting my Warboss into something a little special. He's not in mega armour, although at somepoint I will do a rendition of him in said armour. I also found an old base lying around which worked beautifully for him. I dont know the name of the model but the Old tau ethereal (space pope floating on a hover chair), well it came with a scultped base with a carved in Tau symbol and since we have 2 Tau players in the challeneg with Oink and Plastikente I thought Id move my Waaagh over to the Eastern fringe and see if I can add insult to injury.
So what next? putting the Orks to one side for a moment I hope to paint the crashed aquila lander terrain, do the sculpting required on the warboss conversion, I have a half painted Iron Warrior marine I might try and finish to break up the monotony of green. We shall see, but at this rate on 60points at the half way stage I hope to surpass the total for last month :)
Pics to come
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60pts :o
you :-X! Well, I'm feverishly (literally as I've had flu recently) painting my way through 15 grey knight terminators. There is so much detail on these models that I feel like they will never get finished! That will only count to 45pts... although there are 6 conversions in there too... so 51pts really... but I can't count those chickens yet. I do have a few other items part completed too though.
Also, lets not forget that at the end of this month we'll get the chance to get some painted units on the table against each other. I fear that this is where your hard work at getting through units is going to pay off!
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As for my months endeavors to this point, I have been tirelessly slaving away on the thankless and unending task of painting Ork Boyz. Today I have managed to reach the 20 Boyz mark which is a great 60points for me but im wondering if the 60 points is worth the green spots that I now see everywhere I look.
Yes I went though those days, i still think I am partially color blind from painting all the orks I did last year. Sometimes even going after a full squad of 30 boys in a month. It was brutal. Though I still have several ork squads on the to paint list for this year. Trying to get my allied list painted so I can score decent paint scores in local tournaments.
Well i didn't quite get all the stuff I wanted to paint, painted for the tourney tomorrow, but I did get my two chimeras fully painted as well as finished my manticore today.... I got to do the lenses like gems, painted the guy in the cockpit area and the cockpit as well. I think it turned out well. I left the hatch so i could remove it to show the detail. I came close to finishing my vendetta but not quite finished in my book enough to claim it yet.. and there would have been a few more gaming points as well because it is in my list. Oh well motivation for next time.
I plan on bringing the two chimeras as well as the manticore and my camera so I can rack up some gaming points tomorrow. I am running an 1850 point allied list for the tourny with Orks with allied guard should be fun.
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Oh and for the record my guard tanks are not airbrushed. I have been using different color flat camo spray colors at walmart, painting them the beige, then taping off and spraying the green. I think they came out pretty good all things considered.
Looks like 6 points for me. With a potential for an extra 15 gaming points tomorrow.... just think if i would have got my battlewagon, burna boyz, vendetta, and dakka jet done, plus the two chimeras, and manticore I did get done, it would have been a crazy month for me.
List I am going to be fielding...
1850 ork tourny list with allied guard... for review (http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=225502.0)
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Just a little progress at my end, but I'm hoping to crack some more this weekend. This Sslyth has only been painted and based. I like the model, so I didn't bother to convert it, and I couldn't find any inspiration for detailing.
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2pts, taking my total for this month up to 20.
Another question on scoring: can I get "character" points for the Heavy I'm painting for my Necromunda gang? Actually, I'm painting all the models in the gang to my character standard, so I'm keen to snap up any points I can as a return on the time invested.
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Hmm its hard to know where to stand on that one Plastikente...
On the one hand I want to offer you the extra points to incentivise the best painting that you're capable of...
On the other hand I dont want to open up an avenue that someone slimey might try and use to wrangle more points out of less work... Naming no names.... Oink *cough cough may in turn say ah well I paint my sergent models up to a higher standard I should get 10 points for him since in 6th ed he is defined as a character...
Well as it stands the extra points are only available for special charcters/ HQ level characters which are generally more intricately detailed, larger, more impressive centre pieces. And as I said im not sure where to stand, as while I want you to paint the best you can im not sure the simplicity of Necromunda models lends itself to special character point allocation.
Thats just my oppinion and everyone has one so lets see what others think?
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Well as it stands the extra points are only available for special charcters/ HQ level characters which are generally more intricately detailed, larger, more impressive centre pieces. And as I said im not sure where to stand, as while I want you to paint the best you can im not sure the simplicity of Necromunda models lends itself to special character point allocation.
Ah, I had not realised that that was the definition of "character". In which case I agree that my Heavies should just be scored as infantry.
Another one for people to consider though... XV8 Battlesuits. I could field any of those as an HQ, so I could be cheesy and claim character points for them. As it stands, I propose that they should just score double infantry points (like bikes) due to their size. Any objections?
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Size does not necessarily mean more value... indeed some models like suits are large but mostly made up of larger surfaces whilst other models like fire warriors have similar surface panels albeit in a smaller scale... indeed sometimes the smaller scale models are more difficult to paint!
Saying that yhough, it may be worth considering particularly large infantry models like suit, ogryns and ogres etc (remember the challenge cares not where the models come from) To score double the infantry score in all areas... we would probably need to agree exactly what type of models would / would not fall within this...
I will wait to see what valar and angel think...
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Just finished 3 more bikes. It's too late to faff around with my camera now, so I'll post pics and claim points in the tomorrow.
In the meantime, one Escher Heavy:
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Painted, based and detailed (freehand cogs on knee pads, loin cloth and shoulder) = 3pts, taking my total to 23 this month.
Concerning points, my argumant for the Crisis suits was pretty much on the basis that I get double points for bikes, and I find a Crisis takes about the same amount of time and effort. In a sense, it doesn't matter - they're going to get painted anyway (when I get round to it), and to the same standard. I'm just interested in knowing in advance how many points I can wring out of them. I've never painted Ogryns or Ogres, but I would have no objection to them scoring double.
EDIT: The next day...
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The promised pictures. All painted, converted (heatlances from the Talos/Cronos kit) and detailed (hand painted markings on hulls and a bit of OSL on the heat lances). Another 18 pts takes me to 41 this month.
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So I got to play in the tournament this weekend at my LGS. I ended up taking 6th. I really had no idea how crazy those hell drakes were. I ended up going against two chaos players who each fielded two in their armies. As I am not that versed with sixth and it was timed, I took pics at set up of each round to prove that I used my recently painted two chimeras and manticore.
First round was vs a Dark Angels army w/ drop podding infantry, dark vendetta thing, and termies arriving from reserve. It was objective type game... Ended up with a minor win.
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Round 2 I played a CSM army, large termie squad, defense line, two hell drakes, cultist squads, obliterators, etc
It was a kill point game, in which he had a very low number of kill points to begin with and I got slaughtered in the beginning not getting my first kill point til turn 3 when i deff rolla'd a rhino. His hell drakes made a mess of my army. But I had a great come back. peppering rear armor on one hell drake and HP'ing it out with shoota boyz... how's that for ork shooting. My vendetta came on and dropped the second hell drake, killing both on the same turn. I also got multicharged with the obliterators and CSM squad into a squad of near 20 boyz. The boyz ended up winning combat and the two squads ended up fleeing. Almost had a comeback from such a heavy amount of KP's lost in the first few rounds. He ended up popping my Manticore before I got to use it, which really hurt as well.
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Round 3 I ended up on the same table, playing a different CSM player, Nurgle based list with Plague marines, two hell drakes, two predators, defense line, reserved oblits and termie squad...
This game the dice were really in my favor, it was big guns never tire with 4 objects plus my warlord counted as scoring in his warlord trait roll. My opponent rolled horrible on some crucial rolls and my dice were hot. I took down both of his predators, and captured 3 objectives. Ended up with a major win but my total battle points were still not high enough to put me in the top tier. My opponent travels a lot and is a very strong tournament player I kinda felt bad that his dice rolls were so bad.
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I think that large models should be scored the same as bikes / jet bikes... Easy way to do that would be large models. I would almost say anything mounted on a 40-50mm base (round or square) excluding mega nobz, termies, or other smaller infantry models mounted on a larger base, and heavy weapon squads.
I would say it includes Crisis suits, Ogre models, Obliterators and trying to think of anything else that might fit...
First use for both recently painted chimeras and the manticore since painting to score 15 gaming points. Having just started to paint ogres I can vouch for the fact that they are a pain to paint. With so much flesh you need to use shading and highlighting to get them to look right so a lot of work goes into their flesh. Flesh and daemon flesh in large sections tends to need the most time painting due to the amount of highlights, shadows and such to get them right. I put flesh right under non-metal metallic painting in my book for time consuming. I started doing my Ogres last month and 4 models doing just the flesh took me a solid two nights of painting. The models are no where near done. I was thinking finally an army with low model count that won't take me forever to paint like my orks... but I would paint a squad of 30 boyz over a squad of 6 ogres anyday. I know I could do the orks faster.
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My two penneth
Yeah I am all for larger infantry models such as ogres, ogryns etc counting for double infantry score. I hope we're all honest enough to not abuse this. I think if you ask yourself the question, "did this model really take me that much more effort to paint than regular infantry?" and the honest answer is a yes then you can claim it.
I think Angel sums this up very well with his definition
I think that large models should be scored the same as bikes / jet bikes... Easy way to do that would be large models. I would almost say anything mounted on a 40-50mm base (round or square) excluding mega nobz, termies, or other smaller infantry models mounted on a larger base, and heavy weapon squads.
I would say it includes Crisis suits, Ogre models, Obliterators and trying to think of anything else that might fit...
And whilst im on the subject of you Angel, I really like your tank scheme, very simple yet effective and realistic. Also I like the colour choice for the manticore missiles, they look suitably realistic/simple yet forboding. White could also have worked well here to lighten or neutrally compliment the chamo scheme but what youve done is great. I hope to see these tanks receive some weathering treatment in the next few months as that would look sweet.
As for what im doing... I took 2 quick snaps this afternoon in my lunchbreak just so I could claim my points for the month but I will post better pics soon.
20 Ork Boyz, painted, based, detailed 60points
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1 FirePrism just to break up the monotony of green (Still WIP no points yet)
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Yet to come... crashed aquila lander terrain, 25 termangants (commission) Hope to get the aquila done this month not sure that i'll manage the termagants aswell though :(
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bloody nora Valar! I knew you were being too quiet in there!
those look lovely though, I just wish you hadn't gone and detailed chevrons and hazard markings on all of them! that might have given the rest of us a sporting chance!
i will reluctantly update your scores! :o
Seeing as we are all in agreement, large "monstrous" infantry will also now fall into the double score bracket. I will update the first post to reflect this too.
As we all post pictures of our completed models we can always discuss points for things as we go anyway - this will stop any mick-taking regardless.
... Now, I've got a Shas'O Rymr that needs completing somewhere ...
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Love the goff boyz Valar. I remember several months last year painting a sea of green. I lost most of my remaining sanity going thru that. Looking really good.
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Thanks Angel im glad a seasoned Orks player like yourself is enjoying them. Luckily I have been able to break up the tide of painting Boyz and decided that 20 will do this month and I will try and do another 20 next month. Till then Ive been mixing it up with as you've seen the Fire Prism which just needs some gems painted to be finished.
Then Ive had this sat in my cupboard for years and finally pulled my finger out and got it done in a day yesterday. I love having my airbrushes back from the cleaners :)
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5Points terrain + 5 Points painted (10 points please Oink. should be 70 for the month so far) Just in time to keep the distance between us after your 15 GK termies you're working away on!
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Damn your beady little eyes (and your airbrushes!).
You'll be happy to know that I am increasingly getting more and more inspired to get to work on my own terrain... but seeing this just confirms with me that I need to buy a compressor!!
Updating points! I'm really glad to see that (so far) The Challenge is working at getting you productive!
Also, I think we should consider a handicap score addition to level the playing field vs your airbrush! ;D
PS: did we say that the terrain score was for building terrain... There's no building associated with that terrain (which is also why I thought it particularly unfair for me to try to claim points for the plastic wall sections of the garden of morr set). However, should we apply the gaming bonus score to terrain too?
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1) Damn your beady little eyes (and your airbrushes!).
2)You'll be happy to know that I am increasingly getting more and more inspired to get to work on my own terrain... but seeing this just confirms with me that I need to buy a compressor!!
3)Updating points! I'm really glad to see that (so far) The Challenge is working at getting you productive!
4)Also, I think we should consider a handicap score addition to level the playing field vs your airbrush! ;D
5) PS: did we say that the terrain score was for building terrain... There's no building associated with that terrain (which is also why I thought it particularly unfair for me to try to claim points for the plastic wall sections of the garden of morr set). However, should we apply the gaming bonus score to terrain too?
Let me address these points :)
1) Hehe I love my airbrushes
2) Glad you're becomming inspired with your terrain again, it would be nice not to play on bare plastic when we game.... I will bring my Aquila terrain to yours Sunday so we at least have some painted terrain. I too am becoming increasingly enthusiastic with it scheming about all the things I want to build for my terrain. First up a desert themed board which will have some sort of Ork settlement theme to it Inc Big Mek's Mek Shop
3) Thanks for the points update and yes this is exactly what was needed to blow away the burn out cobwebs... I thank you but my missus does not :)
4) NO! Besides I spend just as much time cleaning the damn thing out as I do painting and it only does so much.
5) I had to attach the tail fin to the main body...Is that not building? Also I think we should apply the gaming score to the first use of terrain because then that really encourages us to paint and use new scenery
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Also I think we should apply the gaming score to the first use of terrain because then that really encourages us to paint and use new scenery
I agree.
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5) I had to attach the tail fin to the main body...Is that not building? Also I think we should apply the gaming score to the first use of terrain because then that really encourages us to paint and use new scenery
Not building at all. I think the 5 points for building terrain should mean scratchbuilding or heavily converting existing terrain. But that is just my opinion.
As for using it in a battle I agree you should get gaming points for that. It is as important to get nice looking terrain on the field as it is nice looking models.
That is a totally awesome and very inspiring crashed Aquilla. Makes me wish I could find all the parts to mine. great job.
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5) I had to attach the tail fin to the main body...Is that not building? Also I think we should apply the gaming score to the first use of terrain because then that really encourages us to paint and use new scenery
Not building at all. I think the 5 points for building terrain should mean scratchbuilding or heavily converting existing terrain. But that is just my opinion.
As for using it in a battle I agree you should get gaming points for that. It is as important to get nice looking terrain on the field as it is nice looking models.
That is a totally awesome and very inspiring crashed Aquilla. Makes me wish I could find all the parts to mine. great job.
hehe well cant blame me for trying. I think we should agree to set a definiton on building terrain. We dont offer points for models made so should we score points for making terrain out of box? Or should it be reserved for scratch building terrain? Thoughts?
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hehe well cant blame me for trying. I think we should agree to set a definiton on building terrain. We dont offer points for models made so should we score points for making terrain out of box? Or should it be reserved for scratch building terrain? Thoughts?
Hmmn, can't think of who you might sound like there, I can almost put my finger on it. ;) I don't think building a model from the box should count. Maybe if you combine several kits and do some converting as well, maybe. I think the terrain to score points for being built should mean heavily converted or scratchbuilt. Still give the painting points and the gaming points.
my opinion.
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What are the points for, effort involved, or as an encouragement to build/paint scenery (or a bit of both)? The last box of machinery I constructed (but haven't yet painted) was an imperial sector. As even the smallest building was made of 25-30 individual parts, I think constructing it would be worth 5 points (if it hadn't been done about a year ago). But sticking the fin on a crashed Aquila doesn't seem worth anything to me, and I don't know how complex the Garden of Morr bits are. I am willing for us to give points for constuction, but maybe we need to assess how many on a case-by-case basis.
Meanwhile, I have made some progress...
This one started out because the cheapest way to get my Heavy with Heavy Stubber on ebay involved buying some other models with it (all of which were absolutely caked in paint, which I stripped off). This started life as a juve with stub gun and pick, but I had already painted one of her, and it's inexcusable to have duplicate models in an army as small as a Necromunda gang. I carved a bit of her t-shirt away and used liquid green stuff to model a corset, removed her weapons and added an extra pony tail from an old Dark Eldar. Having decided she was going to have a flamer, I drilled some holes in her two hands and bent a paper clip to run between to give shape for a fuel hose which I then bulked out with green stuff.
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I then painted her, alongside the flamer and fuel backpack, which game from an Imperial Guardsman, and stuck the pieces together at the end:
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Converted, based, painted and detailed (cog motif on loincloth and hand-painted stripey trousers) =4pts.
Secondly, I have painted this Raging Heroes miniature to be Lady Malys:
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Independent Character painted, based, detailed (transfer and hand-painted symbol on banner)
... and converted. I feel a little underhand claiming this, as all I have done is add a banner pole to her base. But is a part from another kit added to improve the look of a model, so that’s a conversion, right? If it makes anyone feel better, I did magnetise it so ensure that it doesn’t snap in transport, so it was slightly more effort than just drill and stick. Anyway, I’m going to claim the points until someone kicks up a fuss. Another 10 pt, bringing this month’s running total to 55.
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An update from me...
My game agianst Oink today (which saw me get trounced :( although was fun and good trying out a new list) got me a few more points for the month so I figured Id do a near months end points round up see if Oink will add them to my total.
20 Ork Boyz with details (60)
1 Fire Prism (9) used in game (5)
1 Aquila terrain (5) used in game (5)
6 Tyranid hormagants (12) pics to come
Total with 4 days to go 96 points :D
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So i was able to get my battlewagon painted. But ended up breaking my finger today and it is so swollen i can't do the details for it.
But atleast I finished the battlewagon.
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6 points for me.
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I wouldn't call it trouncing you by any stretch of the imagination... the only trouble is that the end score looked worse than it was because we were playing "The Scouring" and my guard had 3 fast attack choices including one vendetta!
I'm still amazed how quickly you killed grey knight terminators with your shooting though... others will make out one poor fellow standing hiding in the foreground of one of the pictures above! On that note though, those terminators were painted so as to qualify for the gaming bonus. But I do still need to base them.
I've not yet added them in above as I'll wait for them to be completely done to make a single change isntead, they'll net me:
15 terminators, 6 conversions, all with personalised detailed heraldry and basing (yet to be completed) = 51pts (including basing) along with +15 gaming bonus for a grand total of 66pts. Still well behind Valar!! damn him for pulling 20 darn orks out of the bag whilst we were all busy chatting away!!! On the plus side though, I am happy that I will be completing more points this month than I did last month so it's definate steps in the right direction!
Probably more valuable though, was Valar was good enough to bring his airbrush and compressor and teach me some ins and outs for me to make the plunge into the lucrative airbrush painting area!
As for you Angel - how on earth did you manage to break your finger!? That cannot be comfortable at all! hope it mends fast!
and Plastikente - I don't have that total for you? I get the feeling that we were waiting picture confirmation of something? let me know what I missed please?
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So far this month...
6 bikes (converted, painted detailed) = 36
1 Sslyth (painted, based) = 2
1 Escher w/ Heavy Stubber (painted, based, detailed) = 3
1 Escher w/ Flamer (converted, painted, based, detailed) = 4
1 Lady Malys (character - converted, painted, based, detailed) = 10
TOTAL = 55pts
Pics for all are in the thread. I did post at one point to say pictures would follow (latest 3 bikes), but when the pics were ready no-one else had posted so I just edited the previous post.
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As for you Angel - how on earth did you manage to break your finger!? That cannot be comfortable at all! hope it mends fast!
Well i had problems with my push lawnmower so i replaced the whole pull starter unit. Seemed to work a lot better. However I tried to start it in high grass partway through the numerous attempts to get it to turn over it detonated while I was pulling back really fast it pulled forward really fast crushing my finger between the handle and the pull cord. Basically my middle finger on my dominant right hand is crushed in 3 places. The finger tip is black and blue and swollen, and both the knuckle in the middle of the finger and the one toward the tip are probably broken as well. Worse part is it is on the inside of the finger. I can't really write and today I had to type about 8 pages. It was a daunting task at best. Needless to say fine detail painting as well as possibly painting in general might be out for a little bit. We will see how it looks in a week.
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So far this month:
6 Chaos Space Marines (painted, based but I'm counting those separately, detailed) - 12pts
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1 Chaos Space Marine w/Plasmagun (converted using one of the metal plasmaguns) - 3pts
44 bases.. so 44pts?
My paint schemes are overly complex... Each silly model is 9-12 separate steps.
Still working on that Heldrake (thank Tzeetch for airbrushes!), then I'll probably go back to my Sisters models.
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44bases!! what were you doing!? also, we'll need pictures of all the completed painting.
Also, welcome to The Challenge LoH!
Thats a good score in, just a reminder to everyone that we only have a couple of days left of February. Anything painting within March should be counted for march - though anything completed within Feb should be counted in Feb, even if you don't get the pictures up until after.
I think it's a great personal challenge to try and outdo your previous months score - so even if you know you aren't going to beat someone else (Valar!) be sure to challenge yourself to get more done!
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im going to be in excess of 100 points this month once the next batch of 6 hormagants gets finished tonight and tomorrow.... Im gonna struggle to beat that again I think :P
Ah LoH... a man who paints bases for models, not models for bases. I man of my own making... remember 'bases and faces make the model' stick by this rule and you wont go far wrong!
Grats on getting yourself your first points haul, but as Oink has said, everything you claim points for needs to be evidenced with photo's... lets see them bases and the rest of the marines :)
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im going to be in excess of 100 points this month once the next batch of 6 hormagants gets finished tonight and tomorrow.... Im gonna struggle to beat that again I think :P
Ah LoH... a man who paints bases for models, not models for bases. I man of my own making... remember 'bases and faces make the model' stick by this rule and you wont go far wrong!
Grats on getting yourself your first points haul, but as Oink has said, everything you claim points for needs to be evidenced with photo's... lets see them bases and the rest of the marines :)
Bases:
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Terminator Sorcerer:
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Chaos Space Marines:
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And 28 cultists that I am pretty sure I did in Feburary, judging by the bases (which use grass tufts I didn't get until the end of the first week in Feb in a tournament). The other 12 are not finished yet... and I have 20 more to clean/assemble/paint.
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28 * 3 = 84pts.
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Welcome to the Challenge, LoH!
Latest update from me: the last 3 Reavers.
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3 x bikes, converted, painted and detailed (freehand patterns on cowling) = 18pts, bringing my total for the month to 73.
Now, I don't want to be a spoilsport, but...
Okay, to clarify detailing, this is significant freehand or additional painted detailing or techniques over and above painting the detail of the model itself. For example, painting a models skin, face, teeth and eyes is considered painting the detail of the model. Adding significant tattoos or intricate patterns to skin or cloth is painting in additional detail.
Other things that would be considered additional detailing include using transfers or weathering.
Ultimately when you post pictures of the models we will be able to see if youve tried enough detailing for the points and award them or not.
The other impotant thing i want to stress is that you dont have to be awesome good at detailing. We arent saying you have to getvit looking golden demon standard. It is about encouraging you to try out detailing techniques, you can always get help improving, but you need to start somewhere!
LoH, you claimed points for detailing your Chaos Space Marines, but it wasn't clear to me what areas were detailed - please can you clarify?
Secondly, for discussion. The original post offered points for "basing". To me, that does not just mean "painting bases", but rather providing a (painted) base for an exisitng model. Can you have points for just painting a load of bases?? If you provide pictures of models standing on those 44 bases you have done I'll be glad to let you rack up the points.
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Welcome to the Challenge, LoH!
Latest update from me: the last 3 Reavers.
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3 x bikes, converted, painted and detailed (freehand patterns on cowling) = 18pts, bringing my total for the month to 73.
Now, I don't want to be a spoilsport, but...
Okay, to clarify detailing, this is significant freehand or additional painted detailing or techniques over and above painting the detail of the model itself. For example, painting a models skin, face, teeth and eyes is considered painting the detail of the model. Adding significant tattoos or intricate patterns to skin or cloth is painting in additional detail.
Other things that would be considered additional detailing include using transfers or weathering.
Ultimately when you post pictures of the models we will be able to see if youve tried enough detailing for the points and award them or not.
The other impotant thing i want to stress is that you dont have to be awesome good at detailing. We arent saying you have to getvit looking golden demon standard. It is about encouraging you to try out detailing techniques, you can always get help improving, but you need to start somewhere!
LoH, you claimed points for detailing your Chaos Space Marines, but it wasn't clear to me what areas were detailed - please can you clarify?
Secondly, for discussion. The original post offered points for "basing". To me, that does not just mean "painting bases", but rather providing a (painted) base for an exisitng model. Can you have points for just painting a load of bases?? If you provide pictures of models standing on those 44 bases you have done I'll be glad to let you rack up the points.
First off lovely tribal markings on those reavers, theyre getting better each time.
Secondly as with detailing yeah youre right its about adding extra detail to the model for it to count and not just painting the models details... I would agree here LoH with Plastikente about there not really being enough extra detailing to claim that point.
Lastly about basing, again I agree here with Plastikente and Oink and I have spoken about clarifying this. Points are not on offer just for painting a base brown, its not 44 points worth of work. to score the points for basing it either needs to be a resin base, scenic base, or a base that has had a decent amount of attention paid to it... ie extra debris, rubble, grass tufts, cork basing, razorwire, snow etc etc....
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Secondly as with detailing yeah youre right its about adding extra detail to the model for it to count and not just painting the models details... I would agree here LoH with Plastikente about there not really being enough extra detailing to claim that point.
Lastly about basing, again I agree here with Plastikente and Oink and I have spoken about clarifying this. Points are not on offer just for painting a base brown, its not 44 points worth of work. to score the points for basing it either needs to be a resin base, scenic base, or a base that has had a decent amount of attention paid to it... ie extra debris, rubble, grass tufts, cork basing, razorwire, snow etc etc....
Fair enough, then. I withdraw all point claims for detail work. I frankly suck at freehand work, and my normal paint schemes across all of my armies is complex/crazy enough for me to usually not bother with it (example: each color on those cultists is a combination of 2-3 layer/wash/drybrush). I understood "detailing" to be extra effort to bring out highlighting.
I will also withdraw point claims for the bases; I will simply claim them piecemeal when the models are on-base and the appropriate base litter is complete.
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detailing doesnt just have to be free hand.. It can be as much as taking some extra time to put transfers on all of your models, chapter insignia, squad markings, numbers, skulls etc etc it doesnt have to be demon standard freehand... frankly none of us are that capable.
Unfortunatley for me, im working on a bunch of tyranids for a client, theyre some of my higher standard work with zenithal highlights, extra attention to carapace texture etc... but they have nothing to offer me in terms of detailing therefore I cannot claim as such.
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I think its important to clarify that the challenge aims to push uour productivity and grow your skillset. You do not have to be the worlds best painter... not by any stretch, but you are encouraged to push your own skills for certain!
What you have to remember us that painting a models details is not the same as painting extra detailing. Poor angel painted about a million rivets on his battlewagon (with a broken finger) but these are all part of the models details, you are almost expected to paint them... however adding weathering, or scorch marks or hyroglyphs are all examples of painting additional details that add extra life to your model. examples of things you could think about might include blood splatters, tattoos and shoulder markings.
You should consider these principles applying for things like basing too. Try to challenge your usual level by adding some mixed coarse material, mixing up your colours a bit to add greater depth and most importantly... adding a model (i think the lack of models is the cheeky thing) thats not to say you cant get the points for the bases once they have their painted models on them though!
As an aside, try not to limit yourself based on the amount of work done on other parts of yhe model... for example, the gk terminators im finishing have 6 layers on their armour, 4 on the reds alone and 4 layers mixed and blended into the blades... but that doesnt stop me from doing between 4 and 5 layers on the bases... and in the case of the dreadknights also adding 4 different types of grass, shrubs and tufts! Its more than ive ever done... and whilst it has not helped my productivity level it has pushed up my quality.
Im hoping that discussions and inspiration from each other can help us all to improve in different ways! I can already see that you are definately going to encourage me to improve my quantity thats for sure!
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Oink please increase my total by another 12 points for 6 more Hormagants... Thats the squad of 12 finished this month. They were finished this morning so will count towards Feb's score. Should now total 118 points
Pics will be up tomorrow morning for your approval :)
Well done everyone for a second great month, some real inspiring stuff particularly Plastikente's Reaver Jetbikes and Angel's Battlewagon. Hope you can stay with us next month despite your injury Angel (wish you a quick recovery).
Roll on March :)
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A bit of gaming from me to finish off the month. And I remembered to record it this time!
One squad of bikes at deployment:
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My new Haemonculus about to be gunned down by overwatch, giving up the Slay the Warlord victory point:
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Half of my new Wracks claiming the relic:
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The other half spent the entire game embarked in the Venom you can see in the last picture, so here they are on the reserves table:
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(Apologies for the poor focus in this one.)
Bikes, Wracks and Haemi fielded in battle = 15pts.
Total for Feb = 88.
@LoH - I hope the points discussion hasn't discouraged you. As mentioned, the point is to try to get us all to stretch our skills a bit. If I was you, I would look at putting some transfers on those Chaos Marines' shoulder pads - then you can claim detail points for that. Look forward to seeing more stuff from you.
First off lovely tribal markings on those reavers, theyre getting better each time.
Thanks very much. I was very happy with the way they came out. Practice makes perfect ;D
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Okay, I've updated everyones scores for FEb, please check and confirm. This includes Valars tyranids (which I saw most of in person) and my grey knights (which Valar saw in person)... I need to take final pictures of the grey knights for the client and will of coruse be posting those here too anyway.
LoH, having looked over the pictures I've allocated scores accordingly... you're productivity is really high and this should be an encouragement! You scored the same this month as Valar did the first month! and that was without any score for detailing! Remember you can always go back to a model and claim points for detailing at a later date so you can think about how and what you may want to do for those.
For the others, it was another good month... with everyone grabbing a bunch of gaming scores, showing that our painted models were getting good use!
Well, I say good month, apart from Angel - who broke a finger :o
Good luck for next month everyone. Try to better your monthly score in March!
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Its been a quiet start to the month for everyone. Im just wondering what people are up to, how the painting is coming for everyone (how that thumbs healing angel). As for me I know Ive been quiet on here like the start of last month, but I've not been as productive in my absence as I was last month.
So Far 12 Termagants have been finished this month for a client so thats the 24 nids off my back and back to focussing on the Orks. Ive got the green Bug for sure. So with the rest of the month I plan on finishing my Boss conversion with some scultping today, I will build some riot shields for some up coming ard boy conversions. Im waiting on a few lovely bitz orders from Kromlech and SpellCrow miniatures and im painting a Truk. This months total wont nearly be as high as the last couple as they are small but intensive projects I have lined up. So whilst I need to do them and i'll be happy if they get done, I should think this month will be wide open for the taking... Just dont let Oink win it please guys!!
Points for the month:
12 Termagants with fleshborers... painted 1 Based 1 Detail 0 = 24
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I'm currently working on a Contemptor, (with a second being washed - *again*), 2 cult assassins, a monstrous undead mammoth with crew, a classic pain in the ass chariot and a individual D&D character... all commissions.
I've also re-sprayed 2 hellhounds and a converted medusa from my own army, and am adding details to 3 further chimeras before I'm going to spray those too. (I think I'll be putting off painting the hellhounds until I either buy, acquire or manufacture some side skirts to help them stand out as having a better side armour).
It's a fair bit of work so far, but its stepping back to my old ways of starting lots of things and not getting anything finished until near the end! lol!
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This month is going to be quite busy for me, with a lot of work and family commitments eating my hobby time in the evenings. Nevertheless I have a few painting projects which I'm hoping to make some progress with:
- 3 XV8 Battlesuits.
- A converted old-style DE Raider.
- 3 more models for my Escher gang.
I also managed to get a game in last week. This is Lelith about to get vaporised by an overwatching meltagun before she could get any kills :(
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First time on the table = 5pts
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My productivity is going to tank this month, model-wise. I need to finish the Coliseum of Corvus Minor for a convention event in April, along with a few character models (A Necron Overlord, my converted Valkyrie character, etc).
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The length units are in feet, the whole thing will be approximately 2x2' in size and be constructed from 6 sub-sections. Each short wall segment is an archway. This should be usable as terrain after the event.
The primary construction will be cut blocks of polystyrene foam insulation. I purpose-built a hot-wire foam cutter for this (there is an article submission for the foam cutter on here, but no idea when it will appear) job.
EDIT: Finished construction (with arch) of one wall. 5 more to go.
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Used "jumbo" popsicle sticks to reinforce the cardboard base, which helps with warping. Each layer of blocks were glued into place with foam tack glue.
As for the arch, I drew one up in LibreCAD (two sets of intersecting circles for the arcs, and straight lines drawn from the center of the interior corner for the block dividers) and printed out a template. Turns out that paper is a viable template material for a hotwire cutter. Simply leave the paper on the areas of the stock you want to keep.
Here's the template for my wide "gothic" arch. I've included the width dimensions--edge-to-edge should be 3", although you can scale the width to any unit you please and it should still work.
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Well my finger is somewhat healed though I don't have much feeling in my finger tip at all, that and the movement seems to have changed a bit. Not really sure how it will effect my painting yet as it is on my dominant hand.
I have done nothing this month and with the in-laws enroute in a few weeks, I am going to be hard pressed to get anything done as far as painting goes. My only shinning star was the fact I sold some stuff, which generally would be good but it actually gave me the push to buy new stuff.
I ended up buying some Khador stuff for warmachine and I got some of their P3 paints I want to try out. Going for a bit of an unusual paint theme in doing the 5th border legion, the typical red I thought was a bit too much on the models and I wanted something a bit more dark and russian. So hopefully when my order gets here it will be before the in-laws and I will get a day or two to assemble and maybe crank out a model or two.
I want to try P3 as I have heard some good and bad things about it. The liquid pigment should be interesting as I want to try some blending techniques with these models. The low model count of warmachine really pushes me to try and take my painting skills up a notch. Hopefully I am up for the challenge and will get a few days of freedom to experiment before having to pack everything up for guests.
I want to do some snow / ice bases or snow capped style bases but have never done anything like that before. So we will have to see if I can find any decent ideas before attempting to base them.
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I want to do some snow / ice bases or snow capped style bases but have never done anything like that before. So we will have to see if I can find any decent ideas before attempting to base them.
The Formula Gale Force 9 snow flock is good stuff, IMHO.
EDIT: Meant GF9.
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Slow month for hobby, but I've managed to paint a few models. Here are 3 more girls for my gang:
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Although I am a fan of the Escher Juve models, and the Heavy, the Gangers do nothing for me, so I have turned back to Malifaux again to find some models that tie in with my Steampunk theme. I did look at converting them to give them some useful ranged aramament for Necromunda, but I like the models too much as they are. 3 x painted, based and detailed (hand painted cog motifs and japanese characters on katana sheaths) = 9pts, bringing my running total for the month to 14.
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Thats a great start on those walls LoH. I'd suggest a few things when you start painting - first of all, if you are spraying them then be sure to cover them liberally with PVA glue first to seal them - or the spray will melt the foam. Another thing you'll want to try doing is ensuring that there are no gaps between the blocks... from that pic I can see some sunlight coming through... you will probably be able to fill this with paint.
The walls will look really good once you've got some light texture on there - see if you can find a fine textured spray paint - this will also make it much easier to drybrush the wall sections anyway so worth the search at least.
As for your Angel - I've done snow bases by mixing a snow paste using PVA glue and snow flock. Buy flock from woodland scenics or similar rather than the expensive GW one, and then you can create a paste which you can lay onto the models base, add more PVA to make it more liquid so it will settle to look more like fresh snow and add more PVA to make it more clumpy and sculptable so you can give the impression of disturbed snow and create footsteps etc.
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@Plastikente... awesome job love the tats and the markings. If you want to go steampuck though you should really look at warmachine. They got some kick butt figures that you could add. Some Kayazy eliminators might fit good for your theme...
Kayazy Eliminators | Privateer Press (http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/khador/units/eliminators)
What kind of weapons u looking for?
@Oink... yes i might have to try some of the woodlands flock as GF9 stuff is no longer made. Privateer press and them seem to have parted ways. Luckily I got my dice set before they went too crazy.
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@Angel - I'm glad you like the tats. I struggled a bit with these ones, and I'm not 100% happy with the finished result, but there comes a point when you just have to settle for what you can do. I will have a look through the warmachine minis and see if anything catches my eye. About weapons, I was just thinking that the gang could probably do with a few proper guns - they've mostly got knives and the occasional pistol at the moment.
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Thats a great start on those walls LoH. I'd suggest a few things when you start painting - first of all, if you are spraying them then be sure to cover them liberally with PVA glue first to seal them - or the spray will melt the foam. Another thing you'll want to try doing is ensuring that there are no gaps between the blocks... from that pic I can see some sunlight coming through... you will probably be able to fill this with paint.
The walls will look really good once you've got some light texture on there - see if you can find a fine textured spray paint - this will also make it much easier to drybrush the wall sections anyway so worth the search at least.
I have a pint of grey primer that I'm using, that I mixed with fine grit (for non-slick floor sections)--textured primer paint. The primer seals the polystryrene after a couple coats. Only issue so far is that I didn't put a second coat on one section of a piece and the solvent got through the first. However, that did cause an interesting "blasted" effect. Using another coat of the primer will sort that problem out. I was more worried about the sand I had glued to the bases (thinned it too much), but a couple coats of spraypaint seems to have done the trick (particularly this automotive filler primer).
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Some more progress towards my target for this month - here are some Crisis Battlesuits:
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I panic-bought these on ebay after the Tau wishlisting thread spooked me into thinking that GW might re-release XV8s in Finecast (who knows, they might still... :-\). If you look at the helmets, you will see that they are converted, but that's how I bought them, so I won't be claiming any points. Therefore: 3 x painted, based, detailed (transfers painted over with my Sept colour, turquoise) x2 for large models = 18pts. That puts my total for the month at 32, and I can't see myself adding to that before April.
And finally, a shot of the whole team:
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Beautiful Tau my friend... I have to say yours is definitely my favorite Tau scheme that Ive seen... Sorry Oink but there is something here that screams japanamation which for some reason appeals to me even though im not too keen on manga as a whole. Very clean and crisp :)
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It seems March has been a quiet month for everyone involved, lets hope April picks things up. Cant let this fizzle out after only 3 months.
As far as my progress went this month I have to say its nothing like even close to Jan or Feb. The last couple of weeks I was sorely distracted by playing my way through the Resident Evil series starting at 1 so far ive made it most way through 4. So painting suffered a little.
I did however manage those 12 termagants at the beginning of the month and then painted my Warboss.
12 termagants- 24
1 Warboss, converted (2) freehand detailing - 10
Total 34
Pics tonight
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I've not posted on account of painting instead. This month I've completed:
1 war mammoth
1 war chariot
2 contemptor dreadnoughts
2 death cult assassins
3 imperial guard henchmen
1 mystic
for a total score of 57!
I unfortunately was unable to finish a few other bits that I had started... but hopefully that will help with my score for next month! Again, pics will be taken later tonight - though probably wont get posted till tomorrow.
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Between Bioshock Infinite, Tomb Raider, Kerbal Space Program, class, and work, I got a grand total of 1 model painted... and I haven't even finished all of the little details on it done. *le sigh*
I did get the 2'x2' board for my event next week based. Just need to get another couple coats of paint on it and do the drybrush layers.
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Well, there's got to be some points available when the 2'x2' board is finished. What do people reckon? 10? 5?
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Oh, and from last month:
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All quiet so far for April. Surely you've got some shiny new Tau kits on the go, Oink? As for me, I've only got the book for now - have to paint some more of my existing stuff before I can justify buying some expensive new models.
Just before the new Tau Codex came out I was toying with the idea of starting up another army, and so I purchased 5 Termagants to test colour schemes on. As this was going to be a hoard army, I wanted a scheme that would be quick and easy to apply, and I fancied trying out some new techniques.
These are painted mostly using shades over a white spray undercoat. I used Druchii Violet for the chitin, Carroburg Crimson for the weapons and then coated the whole model with watered Nuln Oil, before picking out the eyes with Flash Gitz Yellow. It's been a bit of a wrench to move away from my usual perfectionism with models, but I am quite pleased with the result nonetheless. Anyway, that project is going to be shelved now as I turn back to my blue-skinned friends.
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The bases were also something new for my - the first time I have used textures and dry compounds. They are Astrogranite, shaded with Nuln Oil and highlighted with Terminatus Stone. I'm not sold on the texture, personally, - I find it a bit difficult to work with to get a nice even coat, but the dry compound is nice.
5 models, painted and based = a starter for 10
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These are painted mostly using shades over a white spray undercoat. I used Druchii Violet for the chitin, Carroburg Crimson for the weapons and then coated the whole model with watered Nuln Oil, before picking out the eyes with Flash Gitz Yellow. It's been a bit of a wrench to move away from my usual perfectionism with models, but I am quite pleased with the result nonetheless.
Tyranid armies look really good just with washes. And you dont want to take 2 years to paint them ;)
I think the colours you chose for them are very good.
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Finally got something done!
Thousand Suns Aspiring Sorcerer (sans backpack, it's just not glued on yet)+ Cohort. Both are part of the new Finecast upgrade kit. The thing that is irritating me most about these casts is the inclusion of a lot of structural "tabs" that are hard to remove. The armor is a couple coats of thinned Enchanted Blue over a black basecoat, then washed with Asurmen Blue and the new Gulliman Blue glaze.
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Aspiring Sorcerer in my "Blood in the Sands" event:
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The terrain board for my "Blood in the Sands" gladatorial arena event.
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The walls are not completely done yet; but I have decided that I will need to re-base them with plywood instead of the thick card (reinforced with basswood sticks). Turns out it doesn't work out as well for bases longer than the sticks.
Interior shot for my event, showing a Tyranid's-eye view of the next snack (none of the models in view are my work). The blurry 'nid Warrior is Travellar's.
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This month I have been mostly painting scenery...
The seemed to be some debate about points following the submission of a crashed Aquila a little while back, but I don't recall us drawing any definite conclusions, so I'll just post what I think I deserve and let people dispute it if they like ;)
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1 Imperial Bastion, constructed (5) and painted (5).
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1 city garden, constructed (5) and painted (5).
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1 Sanctum Imperialis. The main building was constructed a long time ago, but I based it and added the extra bits of wall this month, so I'm going to claim 1 point for construction, and 5 for painting.
26 pts worth of models, + 10 from my last post = 36pts so far this month.
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Some nice things popping up on here again. Good to see some terrain as the point of this was to encourage all sorts of hobby activity. I think it was decided that terrain could generate up to 10 points (5 for building 5 for painting) However I think the stipulation for getting the building points was that it must be scratch built and not just a kit. Something like LoHs arena could therefore gain those points but a bastion out of a box should not... I believe that was what we agreed although Oink can correct me if I am wrong.
As for me this month I have so far done the following:
6 shoota boyz = 18
1 Ork Dreadnought = 10
3 units first time use on table against Oink = 15
and 1 objective marker = 5
Which is 48 so far... I want to have another 6 shoota boyz done before I go in for a knee operation on the 23rd and then once im struck off from doing anything but recovering I will try and carry on ploughing through the horde of Ork Boyz!
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About scratch-built terrain... Oink seems to have received 5 points in Feb for building a (citadel set) mausoleum. Personally, I think that, bearing in mind the size of the sets, there should be points for constructing scenery (of a decent size/complexity). If the group decision goes against, that is fine, but the rule should be applied without prejudice ;)
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Yea, I thought we ended up saying that as long as ou build it it counts. Of course, simple piece scenery or terrain pieces that don't provide significant build process would not really amount to much. Such as the gardens of morr kit all the buildings in there count as one terrain set, and the wall sections would gain no build points whatso ever (there is only some minor gluing on very few pieces).
I think its a good thing to be generous with terrain scores as a way of encouraging them over and above models. The reasoning being that we can probably all agree that we all spend more time on models and then end up playing on half finished, bare plastic terrain.
For plastikente, the only place I might have a dispute would be in the park terrain, as those trees stuck to teh base doesn't really constitute a significant degree of build element (but it is painted nonetheless).
and -V- we're still waiting for some pics of your other models! Im sure the guys here would love to see them!
This month has been slow, I have no money to buy new Tau toys, but I have been painting up some character models for different things - including testing out my new airbrush on both planetary empires tiles AND a simple space marine duel diorama. I did receive some cool stuff in the mail that I will be painting tetras with, right after I buy some model air paints.
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For plastikente, the only place I might have a dispute would be in the park terrain, as those trees stuck to teh base doesn't really constitute a significant degree of build element (but it is painted nonetheless).
Bizarrely enough, the trees have almost as many individual parts between them as the bastion, but no, they really didn't take much effort. What do you think is a fair score for building them? 1 point? 3?
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I myself am trying to decide whether or not I should claim the build points for the walls or wait until I get the fool things rebased and repainted. The main board is done, though.
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Yea, I thought we ended up saying that as long as ou build it it counts. Of course, simple piece scenery or terrain pieces that don't provide significant build process would not really amount to much. Such as the gardens of morr kit all the buildings in there count as one terrain set, and the wall sections would gain no build points whatso ever (there is only some minor gluing on very few pieces).
I think its a good thing to be generous with terrain scores as a way of encouraging them over and above models. The reasoning being that we can probably all agree that we all spend more time on models and then end up playing on half finished, bare plastic terrain.
I myself am trying to decide whether or not I should claim the build points for the walls or wait until I get the fool things rebased and repainted. The main board is done, though.
I would also agree that it's good to be generous with points for terrain, for the same reasons that Oink gave (and not just because it's what I'm spending most of my time on this month ;)). I would be more inclined to offer extra points for scratch-built than fewer for non-. We could offer points for building, but rule that they can't be claimed until the scenery is also painted, thus avoiding the bare terrain syndrome, and making LoH's decision for him.
Meanwhile, I have painted a couple more...
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At 4 storeys, this is my largest building, painted with the same technique I've used for all my stonework: black spray undercoat and then layered with Mournfang Brown, Dawnstone and Rakarth Flesh, using a large brush.
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I wanted to give the Manufactorum a rusted metal look instead, so the black undercoat was layered with Mournfang Brown and then stippled with Trollslayer Orange to give the effect of rust. The whole lot was then drybrushed heavily with Ironbreaker.
2x(5pts for painting and 1pt for basing/secondary structure) = 12
And I'll take 3 points off my total for the trees, bringing me to 45 as April's running total.
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Yeah Ive been really lazy with my photography lately... no excuse not to be posting update pics as I have been taking them... but its just sheer laziness applogies.
Well starting off for last month with the warboss... the pics to show whats converted and then the pic of him on the table against Oink...
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Then the first time use of the slugga boyz and storm boyz (although the stormboyz first use was a deepstrike mishap and an infamous anything but a 1 result so they died before even hitting the table lol
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and lastly the cheeky little objective marker for the army
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Plastikente thats an impressive looking ruin... Hey Oink, this is what painted scenery looks like ;)
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I like the Warboss! Neat idea with the expended Slugga rounds. Are they a standard Ork bit, or did you have to cut them from a chain of rounds?
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They're nothing special, just a couple of lengths of bullet chains that you get in the box stuck together to make a longer chain
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I've updated the challenge charts on the front page with peoples scores.
LoH, i've added the score for your terrain build anyway - as encouragement to get the arena rebased and tweaked up. Well done for you and Plastikente for making more of the terrain scores! Plastikente is particularly bored of grey terrain, all those buildings! well done!
As for you Valar, I should be mean and campaign for the storm boyz not to count on account of the fact they mishapped themselves into death before getting onto the board :P
We also need to talk about how to score that objective marker - I'm happy to use either the painting scores for terrain (5+5) or the painting scores for characters (6+2+1+1). Terrain scores will probably be simpler all round and cement April as "terrain month". Either way you will score a full 10.
For myself, I've been working on a few individual bits and pieces. mostly some character models and also some airbrush testing. Not going to be a massive scoring month for me - I think Plastikente is going to run away with this!
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Ok so I finally did a little painting. I have a lot going right now. So I know atleast for the next month or so my time is beyond limited.
Yesterday I sat down and took on a project. I purchased a battle box of Trollbloods. They come with two Impaler models which were built and primed white (of all colors). But the problem is there are two identical models. I couldn't have that. So I ended up cutting up his left arm near the elbow and redid it to be semi steadying himself to throw. I had to go through and green stuff the forearm elbow and part of the bicep. I think it turned out pretty good with a simple conversion.
So not really sure how to score him because he is a pretty big model, about the size of a sentinel. He is converted, painted and based.
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We could offer points for building, but rule that they can't be claimed until the scenery is also painted, thus avoiding the bare terrain syndrome, and making LoH's decision for him.
Huzzah!
Also, I started/completed my Helbrute.
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Built, painted, converted (weapon swap to scratch-built reaper autocannon) detailed (freehand warband insignia on upper plating), based (3-color rough terrain, scattered grass).
EDIT: Wrong photo.
EDITx2: Avoiding a double post.
I finally sat down and finished my Heldrake (or helturkey as some of the people in my local group call it... I prefer Helchocobo, wark!). One of the things that was keeping me from finishing it was I was unsure how to attach the arms in such a way so I could pack the fool thing! I ended up putting a long pin in both arms. Between that and
Built, painted, based. Once I figure out how I want to do the larger version of my warband insignia, a decal will be added to it. Any ideas as to where it could go? This model is not very friendly towards decals.
This is one of those models that was very easy to get the base coloration onto it (airbrush 2-3 layers of basecoat, airbrush shade, drybrush everywhere), but the sheer amount of raised detail on it (particularly the wings) made finishing those a chore.
For those of you playing at home -- 2-3 airbrushed layers of Lorren Forest, 1-2 airbrushed layers of Biel-tan green, 1 drybrushed layer of Straken Green, 1 brushed-on layer of Kantor Blue, 1 thinned layer of Caledor Sky, Leadbelcher + Gryphonne Sepia and Solar Orange + Gryphonne Sepia and Sycorax Bronze + Gryphonne Sepia in places.
The base is sand, painted, drybrushed twice and "finished" with dabs of superglue + static grass and a few GW tufts. I wanted to do a "dead" sapling, but the one I made I wasn't too happy with; guess I'll look at that later.
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EDITx3 Realized that I never posted the other 7 Thousand Sons I had finished.
Built, painted, based. No insignia on those yet, still working out how to make the decal not impossible to see.
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EDIT x4 Clearing out my 'mostly painted, needs finishing' queue.
7 more push-fit Chaos Marne scrubs. Built, painted, based.
The basing material I was using for these bases is a lot more irregular than the scattered sand I had been using (and thus the slots would be more noticeable). I still wanted to do the base separate from the model, so I added some grit to the tab itself and painted it.
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Nice work on the CSM, LoH!
I continue to power on with my scenery:
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This bastion has clearly given itself over to the Greater Good and been retrofitted by the Earth Caste. In competitive games the combined effect of those burst cannons and missile pods will just be the same as the heavy bolters which you get with the fortification. Another 10 pts for April.
My old Space Wolves Grey paint was finally getting low enough that I thought I should buy a new pot before beginning this progect. I looked the colour up on the conversion chart and bought myself some Fenrisian Grey, but I am quite disappointed with the result - it is much darker than the old paint. I might have to try playing around mixing it with white until I get a shade I am happy to put on new army models.
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Nice work on the CSM, LoH!
My old Space Wolves Grey paint was finally getting low enough that I thought I should buy a new pot before beginning this progect. I looked the colour up on the conversion chart and bought myself some Fenrisian Grey, but I am quite disappointed with the result - it is much darker than the old paint. I might have to try playing around mixing it with white until I get a shade I am happy to put on new army models.
Thanks. I also picked up a new case, so I can get back to filling it with models >.>; Fortunately and unfortunately, there are no Chaos Vindicators at my LGS. I did get to play with ALL ze models yesterday in a 1750pt game at said LGS. It didn't go well, mostly because my opponent decided to field his "How many MCs can I shove into a Necron 1750 list" army for funsies. Nine Spyders, and three C'tan Shards are surprisingly hard to drop when you need your armor save to live through CC and you need 6s to wound most anything. Still had fun, but there was no point in continuing at turn 4. I did drop a C'tan shard early on, though.
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I thought it was "close enough" myself, but then again I tend to use my exclusively as a 50/50 mix with "The Fang"
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There is some nice things popping up on here yet again, makes me happy to see painted goodness.
LoH some very nice things from you this month, always a joy/agony to see another helldrake painted. A beautiful model for sure but one I hope never to come accross.... hrmm I cannot remember if youve said but I assume that your colour scheme is based off of alpha legion? Hence the cultists? A nice overall army for sure.
Angel, great to see you back painting here, with some very nice trollbloods. I have a soft spot for these and were I ever to venture into hordes these models are too fun not to get... but i Cant so I wont :(
I have just finished taking pics of what Ive painted this month and will upload them tomorrow.. This is what I will be scoring for the month.
Gaming bonus - 15
objective marker - 10 (whichever way you chose to input that Oink be it hero scoring or terrain)
1 Dreadnought with conversions detailing, basing - 10
2 Killa Kanz (1 converted 1 OOB) detailed based - 19
11 Shoota Boyz detailed and based - 33
Total 87 points
(pics tomorrow at around 13:00)
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LoH some very nice things from you this month, always a joy/agony to see another helldrake painted. A beautiful model for sure but one I hope never to come accross.... hrmm I cannot remember if youve said but I assume that your colour scheme is based off of alpha legion? Hence the cultists? A nice overall army for sure.
Ph34r the Drake. It is quickly becoming a "must include" for my lists.
I was inspired by the Alpha legion paint scheme featured in the Chaos dex WD for my warband, but moved around the colors (I have enough predominately blue armies). My fluff/naming is drawn from the Valkyrie Profile JRPG series, so this one is borrowing the title of the DS entry in the series, "Covenant of the Plume". I finally got some decals made up, so those will go on the models fairly shortly. Otherwise, they're a generic-enough warband, more renegades than anything else. They pick up/corrupt loyalists in twos and threes (so no predominant geneseed) and support themselves with mercenary work and piracy. Their gear is whatever they can steal/defile/adapt.
I've been very tempted lately to convert a Chimera to look like it had been captured, defiled, and the armor plating redistributed (so counts-as Rhino).
I have another 10 models that need basecoating... I might still get to it tonight.
EDIT:
I did print out the insignia and here it is on a single model (+1 point, woohoo!):
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Here is the image of the insignia itself.
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EDIT x2:
Totalling up my points for this page:
14 infantry models (painted/based), 1 model detailed (warband insignia decal): 2x14 +1 = 29pts + 70pt gaming bonus = 99 pts
1 Helbrute, converted (weapon swap), painted, detailed (warband insignia on upper plating), based: 11pts + 5pt gaming bonus = 16pts
1 Heldrake, painted, based. I claim the +1 point for basing as it has a base and not ruining the flying stand was surprisingly painful. I don't believe myself that pinning the arms to allow for disassembly counts as "conversion": 7pts + gaming bonus = 12pts
Gaming bonus for... everything Chaos-related that I've posted for points. >.>; Ye gods.
From 1 (http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=225142.msg2721219#msg2721219),2 (http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=225142.msg2721257#msg2721257), gaming bonus of 35pts + 140pts
From 3 (http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=225142.msg2724249#msg2724249), 10pts.
Total: 317 points
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So here are the pics then as promised:
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and a little sneak peek at something I'll be working on in May
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Thanks for looking
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-V-, I'm very jealous of your neat chequer and diamond patterns - I tried them on my harlequins but couldn't get them nearly as crisp and regular as you have done.
My Imperial city continues apace:
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This is the final of my four buildings: 1 pt for final construction and 5 for painting.
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When it was done I found that the courtyard looked a bit bare, so I gave it a bit of freehand attention. This symbol is used in the Epic Armageddon rulebook for Imperial Navy units, and I really like it so I copied it down here.
I've also finished another small garden:
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Same as the last one, 2pts for construction and 5 for painting.
That brings my total to 68 for April, and I doubt I'll get anything else finished tonight.
4 buildings based and painted, 2 gardens constructed and painted and 2 bastions constructed and painted. Didn't quite hit my target of finishing all my outstanding scenery, so you'll probably see a few Aegis Defence Lines pop up next month, as well as guns and comms relays to go with them.
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LoH, the gaming bonus is per *unit* not per *model*. You're in for a bumper haul... but just not has massive as you initially thought. If you could let me know exactly how many units you fielded I can update your entry accordingly.
I still need to take snaps of my things for this month. Looks like I've JUST missed out on adding a vehicle to this list but it will be done by tomorrow. Until then this is my list for April. Its full of models painted to my character level;
6, 1, 1: Dark Elf Lord: Painted, based, detailed
6, 1: Ork Big Mek: Painted, detailed (no base at all, still trying to work out what to do)
2, 6, 1: D&D Character: converted, painted, based
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2, 6, 1, 1: Dark Angel: converted, painted, detailed (lighting)
2, 6, 1, 1: Fallen: converted, painted, detailed (lighting & freehand)
(these two are sitting on a 60mm base but its not painted yet as again I'm thinking about how best to finish off this small diorama. It was an interesting test for me to use my new airbrush on)
Total: 44pts
As mentioned I missed out on completing two vehicles, and another character model both part way complete. I've also just picked up another marine unit commission to go with the ones im already working on and it looks like I'm about to land a lot of high elf work.... May will be busy.
I'll probably take a group shot of the above to save myself a lot of pictoral hassle tomorrow.
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LoH, the gaming bonus is per *unit* not per *model*. You're in for a bumper haul... but just not has massive as you initially thought. If you could let me know exactly how many units you fielded I can update your entry accordingly.
No problem. I thought that it seemed a bit absurd, points-wise. I obviously skipped over "unit" as my eyes read "model" above the scoring chart. Only recommendation I could make re: the original post would be to distance the gaming bonus somehow and/or bold that it's the unit.
1 Helbrute
1 Heldrake
1 Unit of Thousand Sons
2 Units of Chaos Space Marines (includes a character with it)
2 Units of Cultists
In other news, I'll probably have my Havocs done soon. I broke out the airbrush and mass-basecoated them. I also picked up a Vindicator which just got built & primed. The instructions with the kit are... a bit odd: they look like someone photocopied the proofs and then stapled them together (this is a GW box that was ordered by my LGS for me). I have a photo of the front of the instructions, unsure how much mod wrath I'd incur for posting it.
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The Dark Angel / Fallen mini-diorama... It was really a test piece for trying some effects with the airbrush. Both have been coloured using zenithal lighting but this definately works best on the green - I even went in and darkened the rear to make it look better. Getting black down right through an airbrush is very difficult and whilst it has some nice effect I think I will need more practice before I can be completely satisfied with that. There is some freehand detail on the fallen and a glowy lighty effect on the dark angel. All painted to my character standard... although the black really doesn't show all the effort which is a real shame... Next I'll have to work out what to do with the base - (i may have to pull them of it in the end) and I am also considering sticking them on a little plinth to make it a little more special.
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This is a model that -V- was shown a little while back when I started work on trying out a NNM. I worked a little more on the armour which was started then... and finished the rest of the model. Including trying out getting a sort of waves washing on the base effect... To be honest - the armour looks good, but doesn't strike me as a successful non metallic metal... just some nice armour. The weapon is probably actually a more successful attempt at the techniques needed and represents a sort of black metal (rather than silvery metal).
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And an Ork. I wanted to try out some skin tones and whilst its green, yes, the ideas for painting skin are still present. Things such as varying the colours on extremities such as nose and ears as well as changing the tones for knuckles and lips. Also, its surprisingly easy to paint extra detail onto orks... I feel cheated by -V- managing to so easily add detail to all his models to make them look super awesome!
Also, I completely forgot to take snaps of the D&D chap before swapping it over in person so will need to chase it down in the near future.
Oh, and finally, is anyone else seeing the pictures on their sides? photobucket might be playing tricks on me.
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Nice to see what your managing to do with an airbrush. The zenithal highlighting does indeed look nice on the dark angel, and im sure the black is equally nice but just not shown at a good angle in the pic.
I remember the Dark Elf, and I think we decided that maybe it was overly dark to look golden, the extreme light transitions are there to make it look reflective but theyre over an overly dark brown base. It still looks nice but maybe more like amber armour from Eldar Scrolls Oblivion if you know what i mean by that.
And yes your Ork Mekboy pics are showing on the horizontal... btw what colours are used for the skin? its a tone I like
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Well getting a little hard to get time to paint with the wedding and all so I haven't been very active. I am still working at my new Trollbloods army though and did another member of the battle box...
For my Axer, I used a little darker custom mix for the skin tone, which for this model i washed and they built back up. The outcome was a little darker than the impaler but i am going for the trolls all having a little variation in skin tone anyway.
I did try my hand at some detailing on this model. I did the aged brass on the axe, and I did a custom plaid design as is common with troll bloods. It is hard to see but I used 3 different colors for the plaid, it turned out OK but i wish i had a steadier hand to do lining.
So I will be happy to atleast put 6 points up on the board for this month. Maybe by the end of the month I can paint a few more things once family goes back home.
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First completed model of May.
I managed to get my hands on some of the metal Chaos Havocs w/Lascannons for not a whole lot.
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Three more of these to go.
Painted, based - 2pts
I've also got a Chaos Vindicator largely done, just have a couple of the little bits of the model which still need work, and the siege shield. Looks like the next large model will be either a Maulerfiend or a Forgefiend. I unfortunately can't decide which I want and I only really have room in the case for one or the other.
EDIT:
Eh, what the heck
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Only "conversion" work was filing off all of the Imperial-esque iconography and replacing them with Chaos stars (a few of the metal ones), and one more to the rear hatch.
Added warband insignia decal to a door.
Score: 8 or 10, depending on whether or not anyone else thinks the conversion is enough to merit the points. Either is fine by me.
EDIT x2:
This model started life as one of the Chosen from the Dark Vengeance set. All of the Chosen models from that kit looked like they'd make good candidates for Aspiring Champions (looking at the "official" model w/axe, about the same), and Chosen marines are not a unit I find myself using. So, all the Chaos models from that kit became Aspiring Champions. All of my champions have their own names, care of the character cards I keep around for each.
Paint, detail (added warband insignia to the cape), based. Even managed to get the eyes to come out right. I'll have to do dark skin tones for the other mace-wielder model I have.
Gwendar, Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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Points: 3 or 8, depending on whether or not infantry or character scoring is used. I am claiming character scoring.
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You've been productive, LoH! Personally, I think that model is detailed enough to score as a character, but on the other hand, I'm not sure I want to open up the notion of people getting character points for just painting a squad of Chosen... what does anyone else think?
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You've been productive, LoH! Personally, I think that model is detailed enough to score as a character, but on the other hand, I'm not sure I want to open up the notion of people getting character points for just painting a squad of Chosen... what does anyone else think?
My primary justification for claiming character points stems from the fact that I am using them as characters, and the detail level of the model (all of DV chaos marine models are as detailed as the single Aspiring Champion (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440207a&prodId=prod1710096a) monopose). However, I understand that since I have 3 kits worth of these models (more characters than I expect to use), I propose that the first of the poses can be claimed for character points, but "copies" are scored as Infantry unless conversion work has been done (to me, the minimum amount of conversion work on one of these would need to be something that alters the pose or "look" of the model such that it would be easily distinguishable from the original design--a simple weaponswap wouldn't be enough).
If I paint a few to use as Chosen (very unlikely tbh, I think Chosen are way too expensive for what you get), I will claim Infantry scores (or Character for their champion, adhering to the above "copy" proposal).
Main thing that irritates me about the DV chaos marine models is that the only power swords in the set are on the "lord" model.
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I believe we had a ruling on caracter points fairly recently. To claim character points the model in question has to be an independant character and not just a normal character. This was to stop us claiming 10 points for unit champions and for myself in particular, things like a squad of nobz scoring 100 points.
Therefore (and based off my lack of knowledge of the chaos dex) if an aspiring champion is an independant character as listed, then you can claim those points. However if he is just a unit character then he will unfortunately score only infantry points.
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Ted, cult champion from the DV set. I was going for a dark skin tone on this one.
2 pts - painted and based.
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And here is Bill. painted,based. only detail work is the eyes
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It's been a slow month. Although I suspect you sneaky fellas have all been beavering away at secret projects to grab massive scores at the 11th hour.
Anyway...
I have been working through the rest of my Imperial Strongpoint box set, which means a number of emplaced weapons, so I need a ruling on scoring.
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I have kept all of their modelled bases separate so I can mix and match. I want to score this as infantry, ie painted, based (albeit removable), and detailed (freehand Tau lettering on base module) =3pts. Any objections?
Also, I got some battlesuits on the table for the first time since they were painted in March:
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5 pts
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It's been a slow month. Although I suspect you sneaky fellas have all been beavering away at secret projects to grab massive scores at the 11th hour.
Anyway...
I have been working through the rest of my Imperial Strongpoint box set, which means a number of emplaced weapons, so I need a ruling on scoring.
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I have kept all of their modelled bases separate so I can mix and match. I want to score this as infantry, ie painted, based (albeit removable), and detailed (freehand Tau lettering on base module) =3pts. Any objections?
I'd say to score the individual parts as infantry, myself. So for the single item you painted, still 3pts, but as 1 for the gun (painted), 1+1 (painted,detailed) for the base. The less generous approach is to count each set (for a given base, one set of attachments count as a single model), but that doesn't seem fair for configurations that are 50/50 swaps. If it were for something simple like magnetized weapon options (like tanks or Tau battlesuits), then I would lean towards points for the model and all of its toys together.
As for secret projects, I hope to have the Avenger (http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=226344.0) finished by the end of the month and a few additions to my Chaos armies (they're mostly done, just need trim + weapons).
EDIT:
Chaos Marine Havoc w/Missile Launcher
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Attached an IG Sentinel ML to the top of the backpack and was originally just going to have the non-pistol hand hold some chain-like thing (found the hand in the 10-man box for CSM). When the chain fell off of the hand, I instead ran a length of wire from that hand to the back of the ML, which gives the appearance of the trigger being in his hand.
Converted (weapon), painted, based, detailed (Warband insignia) - 4pts
I like my insignia decal, but in order to get the white I had to print onto white decal paper, which makes them a bit fiddly. The good news is that they look good during normal table height. If I were particularly anal-retentive, I could probably paint over the extra bits on the decal.
Chaos Marine Havoc w/Autocannon
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Pulled an autocannon off the IG Sentinel sprue. I rather liked the drum mag myself, so decided to keep it. Added my warband decal to the right shoulder pauldron.
Converted (weapon), painted, based, detailed (warband insignia): 4pts
Five more members of my warband, three pushfits and something more. One is sporting a "borrowed" IG missile launcher, the other is a custom missile launcher made from some brass tubing, a HK rail from an IG tank sprue and a muzzle from a Chaos tank sprue.
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Scoring: Painted x5, Converted x2 (weapon swap), Based x5, Detailed x5 (Warband Insignia): 17pts
From previous posts:
Ted, Cult Champion (axe): Painted, Based: 2pts
Bill, Cult Champion (shotgun): Painted, Based, possible Detailed (depends on whether or not we score stuff like eyes, leaving this one to consensus): 2pts or 3pts
Gwendar, Aspiring Champion (w/Power Maul): 3pts
Chaos Vindicator: 8/10 pts
Chaos Havoc with Lascannon: 2pts
Total for month (so far): 44pts
In other news, I've been working through the painting/terrain vids (all 312 of them!) from miniwargaming.com. So far, useful to me for coloring ideas and some tricks to use tools like my airbrush. Some of the battle damage makes me just a bit twitchy (aka applying fire to the side of a tank), but I think the more unsettling is that they were applying the damage to an already-painted tank.
Using cracking black nail polish was an interesting way to get char marks.
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Unfortunately the only way to get really effective weathering or damage is to work over completed models. This mimics the way that weathering or damage actually comes about - over fresh out the factory items!
It takes a fair bit of confidence and self control to do it - because you can easily ruin all your hard work!
Doing source lighting is another thing that works the same way... I tried it out on a rhino I've just finished... and accidentally got airbrush overspray onto far too much of the model so I had to go back and fix it!
Now, as for emplacements I think there are basically two wasy to deal with it.
1; they form part of a terrain piece, and are scored along with that (no additional points over the terrain item)
2; they are scored as an infantryman (they have effectively infantry stats)
I'm in favour of scoring them as infantry.
However, the rules are generally to kep things simple. So you get the score for the emplacement and thats it. You don't double up if you want to paint multiple weapon options, that is your own choice of course. You basically get the points for any full, finished emplacement.
As we are nearing the end of the month I suppose I ought to start revealing my work;
I have completed:
16 kroot warriors; based, painted and detailed with freehand tattoos. See here (https://www.facebook.com/iPaintmodels?ref=hl) (48)
10 tactical marines; based, painted and detailed with freehand ultramarines symbols (30)
1 space marine captain; based, painted and detailed (8)
1 rhino; painted and detailed with markings, weathering and lighting (8)
the marine units were also all used in a game against -V- (15)
for a total this month (so far) of 109!
I am hoping I may be able to finish a couple more models before the end of the month, but I was held up by a short commission to build 9 forgeworld mechanicum thallax models. Unfortunately, because they are not being painted by me, I cannot claim the points for them (models can only gain points for areas once painted).
I have been doing some other build too - having converted a tau flyer and riptide this month too... but painting scores on those will need to wait.
more pictures arriving soon
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Holy Moly Oink, you've actually pulled a fast one out of the bag and produced a respectable amount of work for a month..... Not sure I like you having an airbrush!!
Right so with a target of 109 to beat for the month lets start listing what Ive managed to do:
3 Killa Kanz, Dakka Jet, Dreadnought first gaming use against Oink (15)
2 DakkaJet (20)
1 Killa Kan (10)
15 Ork Boyz (based and detailed) 45
abandoned Chimera scenery piece 5
(total so far 95)
Pics to come in a later post.
But there are a few days left of the month... I have a nob that needs painting, 3 Kanz, 1 dread and 1 dakka jet built waiting paint... maybe not all is lost but im going to struggle to make up 29 points in 4 days... hrmm!
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As I suspected, I'm lagging well beind. Oh well. Here's what I have achieved, anyway:
3 Imperial gun emplacements and a communications array
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4 x painted and based = 8 pts
2 Tau gun emplacements and a communications array
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(This includes the one posted earlier) 3 x painted, based and detailed (freehand Tau lettering and insignia) = 9 pts
Some objective markers
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2 x converted and painted = 4 pts
1 x painted, based and detailed (freehand explosives markings on the ammo crates) = 3 pts
Combined with my gaming points from the previous post, this gives me a massive 29 pts as my running total for this month. Better try and finish something else before Friday!
End of month update
I've managed to paint up 2 out of 3 Aegis Lines. Firstly, the bog-standard Imperial ADL:
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5 pts
Secondly, the version which defected to the Greater Good.
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I'm going to claim 1 point for "construction" on this one too, as it took me hours to file off all the aquilas - 6 pts.
Even so, that's not a great points return for the effort invested, so I'll revert to a simpler scheme for the last one. I have promised myself I can have a riptide when I finish though :-D
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Okay so the May month end table is up on the first page.
Another big congratulations to everyones efforts, its really nice seeing progress going on. I suppose its a littl unfair for plastikente and LoH, Valar and I meet up fairly reglarly to be able to inspect each others work, so we can sometimes get away without needing to take the time to upload images of our models for proof. I'm increasingly finding less time to do this! - but its really nice seeing you guys pushing though the things for your armies!
Somehow, I managed to pull a real quick one with the first real month of cracking out the airbrush. This month will probably be slower for me, but it will hopefully be made up for in the following month (those of you who have followed my painting progress before will know this as a feature of my painting progress!)
I'm quite impressed, LoH has been concentrating solidly on painting chaos, and looking at his figures its good to see a really even spread of the different key skills. Meanwhile Plastikente has been producing some fine work out of terrain pieces consistenly over the last few months!
On that note I htink its a good time for some clarifications:
Detailing:
Points for detailing are not awarded for painting the details on a model. So things such as painting eyes, cables or shoe laces. Things that are features on a model are exactly that, they are there on the model to be painted. The score for detailing is supposed to encourage painting & detailing over and above the features of a model. This can encompass a range of items - such as freehand unit markings, tattoos, elaborate clothing effects (such as sheer tights) or other effects such as source lighting and weathering. Those types of details that add something extra to the story of a model.
Objective markers:
We've had a few objective markers on their way out now and I think that its time to define how to score them. I am making an executive desicion and am going to say that objective markers will be scored like characters. The aim of this is to encourage unique objective markers to be created by encouraging the converting and detailing of these items. Plastikentes scores for this month have reflected his efforts to convert unique looking markers.
Just a final reminder, if you are following this thread then please get involved. The key aim of the challenge is a monthly score, the total score is really just there for people to build a longer lasting comparison. Indeed, the reason we are breaking down the scoring of the key skills is basically so that people can assess themselves against their own goals... you can see a visual representation of where you are concentrating your painting efforts and so can look at ways to explore alternative painting time.
So, I hope everyone is busy working on items for June.
PS: as with May, I would appreciate if, at the end of each month, each participant can post their monthly summary. This will help ensure that I don't miss anything and gives us all a nice run down of individual progress before it gets recorded in teh table.
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Six objective markers for The Scouring. They are 25mm slotted bases with some ho-scale plastic card brick. Some basing material dresses it up. Using the bricks to form the #s was part of the original design.
Hopefully the clearcoat protects them.
stuff in the back is another project for my Sisters army.
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Just a point - I though that in the scouring you wre supposed to not reveal the score of the marker until someone got close enough to capture it?
Is far as I can judge LoH, those markers would not actually qualify for painting scoring on account of the fact there is no "model" on them... They will get the basing and detailing score - because you have based the marker, and detailed the number on the base. I do like how you have done that detailing by the way. Also, I do have to say that the bases themselves look quite nice! you should think about applying the methods to your other models too!
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Just a point - I though that in the scouring you wre supposed to not reveal the score of the marker until someone got close enough to capture it?
Is far as I can judge LoH, those markers would not actually qualify for painting scoring on account of the fact there is no "model" on them... They will get the basing and detailing score - because you have based the marker, and detailed the number on the base. I do like how you have done that detailing by the way. Also, I do have to say that the bases themselves look quite nice! you should think about applying the methods to your other models too!
You are probably thinking of "Mysterious Objectives" (p125, BRB), which do things that are not known until a unit gets close. These are for the points value (p129, BRB), which is not known when they are placed but is known before Turn 1 ("flip them over"). This precluded putting most objects on the bases themselves.
I myself would have just looked at scoring them as infantry, painting and detailed (the basing is the model here, IMO). Works out to the same score either way. I tend to prefer mostly uniform bases for my models, so no idea when/if I will do this for a model.
EDIT: Missed the memo for character scoring for obj markers. While they were a pain to do (every brick needed to be painted individually to preserve lines), I don't think each was 6-7pts of pain. Like GW rules sometimes, we use the painting rubric because it works, not because it makes sense in all instances.
Got paint on another project, a set of Crusaders for my Sisters army. Rest of them are in various stages of work (two need axeheads, two need basing, four need priming, and 3-4 need to wait for GS to cure).
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One model, with and without shield.
Converted (axe blade swap, shield arm reposition), painted, based, detailed (GW-style edge highlighting, some subtle highlighting on the chest and created fleur for the shield). 1+1+1+1=4
Six bases, based, detailed (point value painted on brick)): (1+1)x6 =12pt
One IG Commissar with bolt pistol and chainsword (character). I wanted to do a Commissar in more classic red/black colors and practice with shading for black. Started life as a Mordian officer model from GW's collector's page (which may have disappeared into the ether at this point :'( . Good thing I bought two when I had the chance. Weird thing is that the pages are still showing up when you search via Google and I have no idea what is going on. Photobucket's being cute (at least to me), might need to click through the reverse shot. I will probably update photos for basing later.
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Painted, detailed (caution bars on chainsword): 6+1 = 7pts
Total so far: 23 pts
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Converted (axe blade swap, shield arm reposition), painted, based, detailed (GW-style edge highlighting, some subtle highlighting on the chest and created fleur for the shield). 1+1+1+1=4
I don't want to be a miser, but highlighting doesn't earn detail points in my book, and I would have said the fleur was a conversion, which you then painted. If you added some freehand additions to the shield, then I would be happy for it to have detail points, eg. the tiger stripes on the chainsword you posted later.
News from my corner... I have finally finished painting all my scenery! This means that I am allowed to treat myself to a Riptide ;D (pending financial clearance from my good lady).
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The final Aegis Defence Line is to be used by my Dark Eldar. I painted it with same colours as my previous Imperial line, and then added some grisly trophies and spattered it with blood. Fluff-wise, fixed fortifications are pretty much the exact opposite of they way DE operate, so I consider this to be one they have just taken and are using as an impromptu torture site before they return to the webway. Anyway, 5 pts
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I don't know if these count for any points, but they are the remains of a battlefield accessories set, and they are the last bits of scenery I intend to paint for a long time :).
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Couple updates:
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Added a scripty banner to the Crusader, which turned out a lot better than I could have hoped.
To her left is a Khornate Lord on a Juggernaut (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSuvOVH0aSQ#ws)! The mount is done, but there's still some work to do on the rider. Some new things that I was working on for this model was the Khornate color scheme; I've not had a predominately red model before. Additionally, I procured a set of tiny magnets so that the rider is magnetized to the mount (which helped him stay on). I traded a few Chimera dozer blades for 10 FW Mark III torsos (he was getting the sets and then the Death Guard conversion bits). The arms of the rider have been magnetized, which is also new for me. The garbage littering the base came out of a GW basing kit. The other notable conversion is a weapon swap for the flamer (the Burning Brand), and I have a neat conversion in mind for a weapon for the Axe of Blind Fury (axe from the terminator lord kit). No score claims yet as the model is not done.
Plastikente, I'd be inclined to score the accessories as a lot for the tank trap and barrels, and another lot (or as infantry) for the escape hatches.
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Ok so this is the first time ive posted in the challenge mostly because in my world nothing gets done in a single month and even the most simple of models has a massive time scale attached but i have decided to post what i do when its done even if its the better part of months worth of work. Any way enough rambling and heres the pics of the Pirate maneater ill let someone else score him but can say he is mounted on one hell of a base i think its heavy enough to kill someone.
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Just noticed that it didnt come out on the pictures but the ruffled sleeves are glossed to to make it appear as shiny silk as has the feather. i never use the ogre pistols and could really believe that an ogre with this sense of style would cover it up with a gut plate.
Most of my tau stuff is up on the tau section but ill start listing bits here.
Im now in love with the maneater models and have managed to pick up a paymaster as my next one. ill get some up close pictures when the light is back
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Welcome on board Wiggus! Oink will keep track of your monthly score on the first page so check back there each month to see how you did and then try and better it. The point of this (apart from some friendly competition and making sure Oink doesnt win) is to motivate you to paint more and more each month. So dont worry about competing with the scores already posted.
Secondly thats a really nice maneater. I too have a big soft spot for these models and think you've done a grand job. As for scoring, well I would be tempted to offer you character points for this, due to its size. So here is how I think it should be scored.
6 + 1 (basing), no converting, no extra detailing. Total 7 points
Plastikente, nice to see you still churning out terrain. I would score that assortment of bits as a collective 5 points.
LoH, nice to see some original models staerting to come through from you. I would have to agree with Plastikente here though that 'GW style edge highlighting' does not count for extra detailing, its just a painting technique, and the fleur de lis is a part of the model not extra. Sorry. However I think I would be inclined to agree with your initial scoring for your bases. 2 points per base for a total of 12points.
My month so far is looking like this.
6 boyz - 18 points
1 Trukk - 10 points
1 Dreadnought - 10 points
(1 WIP looted Tau Phiranna) (2 points for the conversion)
I plan on finishing another 4 boyz, and maybe finishing off the conversion stages of the phiranna, and maybe converting a second trukk, but we'll see how that goes.
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After seeing Wiggus post for the first time I thought I would start posting as well.
After reading the new elder codex I thought I would start a collection of Althansar Eldar as allies for my Dark Eldar. I've started with a farseer and three jetbikes. Kind of hard to see but I used a carved up DE splinter cannon as a shuriken cannon. My next project is going to be five wraith blades with axes.
The farseer is the first model I have ever used a resin base with it. I love the way it turned out and it was ridiculously easy to paint. Based it in black, dry brushed it with terminus stone, and then used a light brown wash over it.
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Great to see another new face in the challenge! Nice looking models.
Dont forget to post a score for yourself though. We add up our own scores just to make it a little easier for Oink.
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Points totals, and someone please correct me if I am wrong:
3 points for the jetbikes
6 + 1 (basing) for the farseer
= 10 points
Question: If I painted a model last month but based it this month can I claim the points for the basing this month?
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Points totals, and someone please correct me if I am wrong:
3 points for the jetbikes
6 + 1 (basing) for the farseer
= 10 points
Question: If I painted a model last month but based it this month can I claim the points for the basing this month?
Yes. Were we scoring bikes as infantry?
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Bikes and jetbikes are score as infantry x2. Eg. 1 jetbike painted detailed and based =6 points
Also yes any work done in one month can be claimed. So if your model was painted last month but based this month then you can claim the basing points.
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i would like to get involved if thats ok? can i start with this chimera even though it was already assembled and primed a couple of months ago?
this might be the motivation i need!
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Welcome to The Challenge mrbox. Its great that we've had such an influx of interest in the challenge! Now with 3 new posters to the thread we can expect lots more updates and more competition!! And more work for Oink hehe
Yes its absolutley fine for you to paint anything at all each month. There are no restrictions on how complete something can be before you finish it off. For example I've had a rukk about 50% complete for months but only just completed it this month. That will count towards this months score. The rules on this challenge are not there to catch you out, they are to encourage you to paint as much as possible and finish off all those pesky models you have had sitting around for ages and getting them to table top.
Btw I like the style of turret on your chimera. Is it a standard GW turret because it looks slightly different to what im used to, and certainly I dont usually see heavy bolter turrets.
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My next project. I made one of the bases to make sure I liked it before I committed to all of them.
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Here is a huge chunk of the Tau allies I painted last month. I actually based them this month for a tournament I played in last Saturday.
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A close up of a pathfinder to show the work a little better
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Terrain | Converting | Painting | Detailing | Basing
1.Infantry 6 20
2.Characters 6 1
3.Monstrous 1
Total: 34
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Btw I like the style of turret on your chimera. Is it a standard GW turret because it looks slightly different to what im used to, and certainly I dont usually see heavy bolter turrets.
Yeah it's the gw turret with the little comms array and some stowage, i chose the turret H/bolter option just to keep things simple in combo with the hull H/bolter, also turned the lasguns inside and added two sets of track guards (nicked from my unassembled baslisk kit) also a dozer blade to go on after it is painted.
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Ludo, really looking forward to seeing what you do with them Wraithbades. I have my WG built but im no where near getting paint on them yet... Too many other things to finish first!
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Swinging back to my Sisters of Battle army, the "Order of the <adjective> Valkyrie" for the rest of the month.
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One lass with a meltagun, painted and based. I will probably end up giving my Superiors different robes to mark them as such, that or passing the combi-plasmas out like party favors.
I might actually get both of my Exorcists done!
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I have been following along for some time now, and it's time to hang up my controller for a while and pick up my paints and brushes. I would like to start off by adding a "completed" Black Templar Terminator,
(https://www.40konline.com/MGalleryItem.php?id=4782) (https://www.40konline.com/MGalleryItem.php?id=4783) (https://www.40konline.com/MGalleryItem.php?id=4784)
- bases will be coming (not my favorite thing so I do a bunch at a time)
And here is a very rough start to my new Paint Scheme for my new Chapter.
(https://www.40konline.com/MGalleryItem.php?id=4781)
More to follow ... finishing up a marine with a great chain sword.
Cheers
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Very cool to see all the new people. I'll have to try to achieve a bit more over the next while!
My latest project has been magnetising and painting spare weapons for my XV8s:
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My colour scheme is based on the old Space Wolves Grey. I still have about half a pot, but have also bought a pot of the new Fenrisian Grey, which is supposed to be the closest match in the new paint scheme. I trialled the new colour on one Fusion Blaster and one flamer, and I was quite disappointed to discover that it is significantly darker than the older colour. After shading with Nuln Oil, I normally add another layer of fenrisian grey to cover the marks made by the edge of the wash. For those based in the new colour I used a 1:1 mix of Fenrisian Grey and Ceramite White, and was very pleased to find that they are now almost indistinguishable from the others (bottom left and right in the pic, if you want to know). Despite all that, they still aren't worth any points though.
That's everything I've got painted at the moment, but I did manage to put all the scenery I painted to good use:
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Both sides here were taken from my Eldar connection, to let me and my opponent try out the new Codex (Aspects vs. Wraiths). I don't know if we allow gaming points for scenery, but I think it's a bit underhand to claim 55 for this (4 ruins, 2 gardens, 2 bastions and 3 Aegis Defence Lines out for the first time), so I won't.
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My first five wraith blades with axes and shields painted up to resemble Altansar. I believe bulky models are 2 a piece plus their bases. Not detailed yet. I found some transfers on BOLS but I it's a slow turn around from Kinkos before I can get them and apply them.
I don't feel like an iphone camera does them justice.
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This is a Dark Elf hero that I use as Duke Sliscus. I borrowed some skulls from the various raiders I have and stacked for the base. I actually played with him today and forgot to take pictures of him.
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Terrain | Converting | Painting | Detailing | Basing | Gaming Bonus | TOTAL
Wraithblades 10 5 15
Duke 1 6 1 8
Today's total: 23
Monthly total 34+ 23 = 57
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holy ****
I turn my back for a second and before I know it the challenge has doubled in size and I pretty much haven't painted a thing! thanks a lot guys!
What I want to ask everyone is if they give me their scores at the end of the month. I did start off by tracking scores as they went up - but found that I was getting confused over what had already been added and what still needed to be added. So the best thing is that, along wiht updates as people go (which are always great to see) tht everyone posts an end of month summary. This will let me just add up the final scores of everyones progress and make the tables on the first page.
I'm not asking this to be a strictly controlled last day of the month post... but just some time around the end / start of the month.
Personally I've suffered from a combination of painting burn out, life issues and the almightiest commission job which is seeing me build tons of models.... but not actually paint them yet! In true Oink fashion then... I will promise an absolutely bumper haul of points at some point in the near future, just can't say exactly when... :P
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I got involved in a journeyman league for Warmahordes at my LGS. Should be interesting to see how things turn out but it is 6 weeks so I should be getting some painting in. Right now I am working on the alternative battlebox for trollbloods. I completely magnatized my dire troll and started to work on painting my Storm troll tonight. I am way behind overall in painting and need to do some catch up. I am thinking of just pulling out my IG and playing some serious catch up. But for now I am knee deep in troll bloods. Should hopefully get my storm troll completed before the end of the month. Maybe with a solid push my Pyre troll as well.
Atleast getting my motivation back and don't have all the life issues now so that should pair well for getting some stuff complete.
Still not sure how you all get all that painting done but my hats off to ya.
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Next pointless item from my painting table:
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I never bothered to paint the Ion Cannon for my Hammerhead under the previous Codex, but now the weapon is really worthwhile so I have completed it to match my existing tank chassis. A small magnet at the back of the pivot prevents the barrel from drooping.
And finally, something that does get points:
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Marker drones also became much better with the new codex. I already had 1 painted, and a second waiting to go, but I wanted to get more without buying multiple stealth team box sets.
The five extra drones are built from 20mm bases with targetting arrays taken from Quad Guns / Icarus Lascannons. I also added some Tau grenade packs under the rim to give extra detail there. I built the tops of the bases up with green stuff to round them off a bit and added a variety of spare Tau antennae from my bits box. I had intended to carve grooves and radiators into the green stuff, but that taxed my abilities too much, so all of those details are just painted on.
The finished product is slightly larger and chunkier than the drone from the Stealth suit set, so I justify this by saying that they are an older, less advanced model. Personally, I think they look close enough to field on the table without embarassment.
1 drone painted (1) and detailed (hand-painted squad marking) (1), 5 drones converted (5), painted (5) and detailed (5). 17 pts so far this month, and I'll be surprised if I finish anything else by Sunday :-\
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Going through some more Sisters of Battle units, plus one more:
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Most of a squad, with a converted combi-plasma. Painted, based. The single out-of-place model is for my Guard army, working on an all-women vet squad.
9x Painted, 9x Based, 1x Converted, 1x Detailed (squad markings on the left shoulder of the vet guard) = 19pts
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The Valkyrie, a counts-as Living Saint. Started life as a Seraphim Superior, conversions include a headswap (the plastic head from Rhino/Immolator), the wings (pulled off the ancient Azazel, Daemon Prince of Damnation and trimmed with a dremel to get them posed right), and a scuplted helmet/hair braid, and a handswap to put the book from the Canonness model on the other hand. I added some writing in the book for a bit of detail work. The base is a bit of sprue and a hunk of polystyrene foam that also serves as a support for the other foot. There's also a bolter partially buried in the mud on the reverse side of the base. It looks like the base for the GW Living Saint model was on both a 25mm and a 40mm base. I'm leaning to keep it on a 25mm (it is still being supported by the slot) to be able to fit it into a case with the rest of my army. Despite how it looks, it is centered on the base and quite stable.
I was aiming to make her to look (at least vaguely like) this character:(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.comicvine.com%2Fuploads%2Foriginal%2F11111%2F111112793%2F3044569-valkyrieprofileangels.jpg&hash=21cb2a40ac36d4324ed493770a5d975b83aeca07)
Painted, based, detailed, converted: 6 + 1 +1 +2 = 10
I might do another conversion based on Alicia from the same series of games.
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Total so far this month:
23 + 2 + 20 + 10 = 55
Plastikente, I like the look of your markerlight drones quite a bit, although I am glad I will not have to field against them.
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Good Lord I must have ADD ... :P
As I was starting my new Chapter I could not help but take a run at my GK Librarian ... arm and base left to do, should be done by Saturday.
(https://www.40konline.com/MGalleryItem.php?id=4785) (https://www.40konline.com/MGalleryItem.php?id=4786) (https://www.40konline.com/MGalleryItem.php?id=4787)
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Probably the last thing I will finish for the month. Dry brushing a wave serpent is taking alot longer than I had hoped for.
I wish I had taken a picture with a better angle. You can't see that the skull looks like it has been blown half away.
He should give me 7 points (Character + base)
Next month I have a spiritseer, Archon, and Succubus to do. If I'm lucky I'll even get a game in.
My complete monthly total is 64
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Probably the last thing I will finish for the month. Dry brushing a wave serpent is taking alot longer than I had hoped for.
I feel for you, having drybrushed a Heldrake earlier this year. If you're going for an all-over effect, it helps to get the largest brush you can (the GW large drybrush is good for this). If you're doing the drybrush for edge highlighting... good luck!
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I'm trying to drybrush pink horror over screamer pink. An airbrush would probably be much faster but I haven't ever used one. I will have to do some dry brush highlighting using longbeard grey. That will not be fun...
I love seeing some sisters of battle. They are so rarely seen on the tabletop these days. I think I've met one person in three years that plays them and he preferred his blood angels.
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Ok so got a little bit of painting done. These light warbeasts are pretty big models in comparison to 40k. a lot of detail work went into both of these models and considering I can only claim two points each for painting them I am going to claim the extra point for detailing. (did tattoo work on the storm troll and fire effects on the pyre troll)
Storm Troll
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And his tattoos
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Pyre Troll
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Check out his hands...
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2 models at monsterous infantry level (or above), based and detailed. = 8 Pts
***UPDATE***
Wow really no activity? well yesterday I got in a few games with my new painted trolls. Even though I lost both games in Journeyman at least they looked good loosing.
Pics are forthcoming.....
Painted Pyre troll and Storm troll in 15 pt journeyman match up against Menoth... + 10 pts (gaming)
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***UPDATE***
Wow really no activity? well yesterday I got in a few games with my new painted trolls. Even though I lost both games in Journeyman at least they looked good loosing.
Pics are forthcoming.....
Got a bit distracted playing Project X Zone on the 3DS. Still need to paint up the weapons and do some finishing work for my Chaos JuggerLord.
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Dont Worry AoD, there is plenty of activitybehind the scenes. Im just a little too busy right now to stop and take pics.
Im breaking the backbone of this Ork army now and am getting close to a point where I can field 1750 all painted with some variations in list.... Still some 30 normal boyz to do at some point (although im burnt out on regular boyz) so my Forgeworld bundle of goodies arrived just in time to keep me interested. A little present for finishing 70 Boyz so far this year!
Progress this month so far is 1 Kan, 1 Mekboss Buzzgob,
I expect to have finished this month 2 more Kanz, 4 Grot tanks, and maybe another Trukk!
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Despite my promise to buy myself a Riptide, I've returned for the time being to my box of old (I like to think of them as "classic") Dark Eldar. This conversion was inspired by Crisis_Vyper's post in this thread (http://www.thedarkcity.net/t334-raiders-ravagers-and-venoms).
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I don't usually paint my flying bases, but some had been lost in transit, so I had to make this one out of plasticard. In any case, 1 vehicle, converted, painted and detailed (freehand markings on the sails) = 10 pts.
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I like to spread my transports around the contingents of my army, so a couple of head swaps and a variation on the crew colour scheme turned this into a Wych version. I swapped the Kabal symbols for some transfers on the sails. 10 pts.
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And to complete the triumvirate, an extra arm and a bottle of glowing fluids make this the Wrack version. 10 pts.
30 pts so far this month - that's more like it :)
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Nice work Plastikente. You do have a knack for making these old Dark Eldar kits look nice. A fresh take on the old kits giving them a new life it seems. Its a good touch with adding the new style sails, it fits seemlessly and brings them nicely in line with the newer stuff :)
And as always your freehand is getting better and better
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+2 models!
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The one on the left is more of the MeowMeow Minis bits (torso and head), this time with a plasmagun. On the right is one of the Cadian pushfit models I was using to test an upgraded paint scheme for my IG.
No detail work on the lady yet, she's due for squad markings on her shoulder when I figure out which squad she should belong to.
The guardsman has his squad markings on both shoulders; I used a triangle on a colored field. His is a green triangle (this may get repainted to be brighter) on a brown field, signifying platoon 1, squad 5. My earlier markings had had some visibility issues because they were a bicolor split down the center of the pad. In this setup, the squad mark dominates the pad and the platoon, while visible, is not as important.
The uniform itself is a Caledor Sky basecoat over black primer, then a Druchii Violet shade (more tinting that filling in the recesses), then a Teclis Blue drybrush over the raised edges of the fabric. The armor plating is Leadbelcher, darkened with Nuln oil, and a few highlights with Ironbreaker.
My company command squad models will probably get something fancier, while the platoon command squads get a silver triangle. I think my HWTs will end up with a crossed set of bars.
Totals:
Lady Plasma: Painted + Based = 2pts
Guardsman Rob: Painted + Based + Details = 3pts
Also, anyone notice that the GW terrain paints have a rather short shelf life? I had to reconstitute mine (bought around the launch date).
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I've been working through more of the classic Dark Eldar:
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I love the classic Incubi model, so I had to paint and base these to match the new ones that I have in my army. Unfortunately, I don't find them that effective on the battlefield, so I can't imagine when I will ever want to field 12 of them together, but they are prety models (the old and the new).
Anyway, 6 x painted, based and detailed (freehand lightning effect on the klaives) = 18 pts, bring me up to 48 so far this month.
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Librarian Finished and based :o
(https://www.40konline.com/MGalleryItem.php?id=4790)
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Character painted, detailed, and based ... that is 6 points for July so far...
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But he's missing a hand, how can he use
the force dark majics??
robo
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The hand was lost some time ago...a friend is looking for his extra librarian hand. For the life of me I just absolutely hate the storm bolter option that I have. So until the augmentic is read at the apothecary he will have to battle the forces of chaos missing that hand :)
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Hi all, terribly sorry but I have missed most of June and July.
To avoid clogging the thread with backtracking can I please ask everyone to pm me their totals for June so that I can create a June table for everyone. This is particularly important as we had many new participants.
On my own front, June was "VERY" quiet... I've been utterly consumed with starting my own business... however, whilst not much painting was completed I did get 70 elysians built... they will be getting painted very soon! watch out.
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This is where the month started for me, 3 base-coated Killa Kanz and a bag full of resin flavoured goodness from Forgeworld.
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And this is what it all looked like today with the addition of Buzzgob the proud Bigmek who all this belongs to.
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So for the scoring of all this:
1 Trukk (no conversions, extra detailing) - 8
4 Grot Tanks (no Conversions- extra detailing) - 32
1 BigMek Buzzgob (no conversion - extra detailing) - 8
3 Killa Kanz (converted, based, detailed) - 30
Total - 78
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Gaming pics as promised from the Pyre Troll and Storm Troll in Journeyman league play (even though I lost both games at 15 pts)
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Also just finished
Burna Boyz....
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Tank Bustas w/ squigs...
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July's Month totals....
-Pyre Troll (monsterous infantryl, painted, based, detailed) : 8 pts
-Storm Troll (monsterous infantry, based, detailed): 8 pts
-Gaming Pyre troll and storm troll in journeyman (first time used since painting): 10 pts
-9 burna boyz and 1 mek (painted, based): 20 pts
-9 Tank Bustas, 1 Tank busta nob, 2 bomb squigs (painted, based, 2 models converted): 26
July total: 72 points.
-corrected for monsterous infantry..
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I've continued working through my box of Old Dark Eldar...
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I'm not a great fan of these models, but I figured I can perch 2 of them on the passenger gantries of each of the converted Raiders I did if I want to use them as Ravagers. This is way the bases are finished with criss-cross metal, rather than in the usual snow.
7 models painted and based = 14 pts
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I then moved onto these Warriors, kit-bashing them with all the new-style splinter rifles I had and new-style helmets. That required a bit of dismemberment, as they had already been constructed by their previous owner. Having completed one I thought the finished effect was passable, except for the massive 70s shoulder pads, so I went back and cut them down, and did the same with the rest of the models.
8 x converted, painted and based = 24 pts
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You can never have too many Darklight weapons in a Dark Eldar army, so I then moved on to kit-bash these warriors with new heads and constructed 5 Blaster and a Dark Lance from the parts for 1 Dark Lance, 2 Blast Pistols, 1 Disintegrator Cannon and some rifles.
6 x converted, painted and based = 18 pts
That brings me to a grand total of 104 pts for July (they were all finished by yesterday - I hoped to get them on the table as well, but my first opportunity is tonight so the gaming points will have to go towards August).
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I have completed for July 3 GK's with Psicannon's ... painted, detailed and based. Having some camera malfunctions will update post with pic's ASAP
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Well being on vacation with nothing to do I have been doing A LOT of work on my 'nids so I figured I'd get in on The Challenge too. I'm not sure about my scoring though, so please feel free to double check (read as I need someone to).
Tervigon #1
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Based-1 (model was otherwise complete a while back)
Tervigon #2
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better look at its base
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Paint-6, Detail (base)-1, Based-1=8
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Paint-6, Based-1=7+ 2 for conversion? The scything talons are actually from the Mawloc, not sure if that's enough for conversion points.
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Paint-6, Based-1=7
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3 Tyrant Guard
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Painted-6, Based-3=9 I'm assuming these qualify as the "monstrous infantry" I see under scoring on the 1st page and thus get 2x pts
3 Hive Guard
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1x Painted-2, 3x Based-3=5 Same assumption as on Tyrant Guard
4 Warriors
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Based-4
Total=60 or 62 depending on 'nid Prime #1's score
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Well that's a lot of work, and a lot of good work at that. I like seeing bug armies, although I never get to play against them. Here's to hoping someone brings nids to the 40kO tournament!
I think for all your work and a first contribution to the Challenge (and a good contribution as well) you deserve those extra 2 points. Have 62 for your work. Can we expect any other work from you over the next few months?
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Well I've still got a few more days of vacation so will be knocking out as much as I can before going back to work. Once that happens building and painting will continue so I'll keep posting, but it won't be at this same breakneck pace.
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How would you guys score a super-heavy? I've got a Shadowsword/Stormlord kit that keeps staring me in the face every time I sit down to work on models and I'm thinking I may start on it after I'm done with the stack of gaunts I still have to do for my 'nids.
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Good question and not an issue we have yet had to breach. I had hoped someone might be
stupid brave enough to paint up some super heavies, including myself but I have not got that far yet.
I would suggest that you double the vehicle score. THe vehicle score covers Leman Russ - Landraider sized models so somehting double their size should be worth double the points. So would look like
painting converting detailing total
12 4 4 20
Bear in mind though when claiming that the extra points are for extra work. The sort of things that might have scored you full points on a regular vehicle may not score you full points on a super heavy. Detailing will have to be of significant level to achieve all 4 points and converting should be extensive to achieve 4 points. Consider converting a Baneblade to Ork Skullhammer worth 4 conversion points for example. |
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What it'll likely end up being is an Inquisitorial Stormlord, so I don't expect to be claiming any of the conversion points, at least not all 4.
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Something akin to Commissar Yarrik's Fortress of Arrogance may well claim you a fair few conversion points and would be awesome to boot... not just 'yet' another baneblade.
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We'll see. Other than probably some of the FW photo-etched brass I haven't decided what all I'll do to it to mark it out as belonging to the Inquisition. That being said, your comment on Yarrick's FoA gave me an idea, something akin to Karamazov's Throne of Judgement on the turret roof, maybe a burning heretic or daemonhost on either the front slope or back deck of the tank. Ok, this is good. Now I have some ideas coming to me, thanks.
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Good question and not an issue we have yet had to breach. I had hoped someone might be stupid brave enough to paint up some super heavies, including myself but I have not got that far yet.
I would suggest that you double the vehicle score. THe vehicle score covers Leman Russ - Landraider sized models so somehting double their size should be worth double the points. So would look like
painting converting detailing total
12 4 4 20
Bear in mind though when claiming that the extra points are for extra work. The sort of things that might have scored you full points on a regular vehicle may not score you full points on a super heavy. Detailing will have to be of significant level to achieve all 4 points and converting should be extensive to achieve 4 points. Consider converting a Baneblade to Ork Skullhammer worth 4 conversion points for example. |
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Hmmmn Well having painted an ork stompa before I can honestly say that it really depends on how much time is spent on the model. I think that should be a factor here. Someone with an airbrush could literally though a base coat down and do camo with highlights in a few hours. Having hand painted each plate and did variation, blending, aging, plus painted crew models and all that it took me a large portion of a month's worth of painting. And that was all my free time in a month granted this was some time back, but if i put that much time in and then saw someone post up two converted character models and get the same points... knowing that more than likely they had one or two nights on each model I would be pretty pissed. I would almost say that it should be on a case by case basis as not to discourage people from painting large models.
Large models are truely awesome to see on the battlefield. I know my stompa can cause passerby's to crowd the table at my LGS reguardless if they are only Magic players or RPG players.
And seeing as how several times people have hit over 100 points in a month, not sure if 20 points could do justice to a month's work of art. IMHO. again scoring is just for fun in the end but it can discourage you, not that painting a large model (especially if you are anal about detailing the hell out of it) isn't already a large enough task to the point of being half way thru and wanting to pull your hair out. A major reason why my second stompa never saw paint as of yet... heck it is the reason my mega dread and squiggoth never saw paint. Painting something as large as the stompa can wreck your mind almost as much as painting a whole ork infantry based army. For several months i had to hide the green paint as it made me twitch.
So i think time spent on the project should be a factor. Just my $0.02.
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Yeah I get exactly what you are saying AoD. And to a point I agree with everything you have said. I know exactly how much time can be spent on models of such size.
The difficulty that we have in this thread though is mitigating for dishonesty. Now I am positive no one on this site would be petty enough or ridiculous enough to claim points for work they have not done, make up scores etc etc. However we all know that 'That Guy' is out there everywhere. The thing with time is that we have no way to prove it took any one the time they say it took to paint their model, and again time taken is no indicator of a quality paint job.
What one person may be able to do in a week with an airbrush might be better than something that's taken a month or more with a regular brush, whilst something painted in a day may be better still than either of them. We all have different levels of ability and speed and different tools. Whilst you poured your soul into your Stompa with a paint brush that doesn't mean that someone with an airbrush, painting the same thing, has put any less thought, or effort or application of skill into their model.
Even then someone painting at their highest character level could equally spend a whole month on just one or two models and in that case are their efforts not qorth equal to the Stompa? Does the Stompa generate more value purely based on size? That cant be fair surely? And this is sort of what I think the set scores helped to show.
But all that said I see where you are coming from and I like you don't want your work to feel cheapened after spending all month on it to see someone paint a couple of smaller things and score equally. Maybe on something as subjective as a super-heavy we should try something different. I'm averse to removing the set scoring system completely as that is the basis of the thread. So there are a couple of options.
Either we increase the Super-heavies to a higher base score.
Or we keep the set score as 20 and then on completion the painter in question submits their model to the consensus of the other competitors who can then award additional points. Perhaps each competitor can award up to 5 or 10 extra points (on a scale of 1-Xassuming how good someone thinks it), which would then act as an indicator of 'cool' factor that those models have.
Thoughts?
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I'm all for letting you guys judge the tank rather than just claiming the points. The only way I could see for us to take time into account is for anyone doing a SHV or GC to document the process in the Projects Forum. It'd show both length of time and speed, but also the wffort required for conversions that may not be as obvious when viewing the final product.
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I'm all for letting you guys judge the tank rather than just claiming the points. The only way I could see for us to take time into account is for anyone doing a SHV or GC to document the process in the Projects Forum. It'd show both length of time and speed, but also the wffort required for conversions that may not be as obvious when viewing the final product.
@ -V-.... I think GST gives us the answer. The project forum would be an excellent way to track progress and time as you show the general progression of the model. I agree that a big model should not be over scored when some people using certain tools could get them finished in no time. Heck I know i could knock out a bane blade or shadow sword pretty quick with two cans of spraypaint and some masking tape. I think the project board is a great answer for a larger project especially one that would be very time consuming. This would allow for better scoring on larger projects.
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I can see value in what everyone has said so far, but I would rather lean towards a standard points score (eg. painting 12, converting 4, detailing 4) and then debating the nuances when somebody posts pics. Admittedly, this does not take into account time or effort invested, but nor does the rest of the scoring on this thread. The problem with letting(/making) us judge each individual super-heavy is that it will open up a can of worms with the scoring. Why is hand-painting worth more than spray-painting - just because it takes longer? Certainly when it comes to base-coats it requires no more skill. I can save time on my infantry this way as well as on my vehicles.
I know that having a (roughly) fixed score may discourage people from taking on large models, but I find that this effect is already in place - if points is all that I'm after then I can get them much more easily by converting, painting, detailing and basing 10 infantry than by painting vehicles, MCs or buildings. This hasn't yet stopped me from doing any of those things.
Just my thoughts...
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I can see value in what everyone has said so far, but I would rather lean towards a standard points score (eg. painting 12, converting 4, detailing 4) and then debating the nuances when somebody posts pics. Admittedly, this does not take into account time or effort invested, but nor does the rest of the scoring on this thread. The problem with letting(/making) us judge each individual super-heavy is that it will open up a can of worms with the scoring. Why is hand-painting worth more than spray-painting - just because it takes longer? Certainly when it comes to base-coats it requires no more skill. I can save time on my infantry this way as well as on my vehicles.
I know that having a (roughly) fixed score may discourage people from taking on large models, but I find that this effect is already in place - if points is all that I'm after then I can get them much more easily by converting, painting, detailing and basing 10 infantry than by painting vehicles, MCs or buildings. This hasn't yet stopped me from doing any of those things.
Just my thoughts...
Yeah you're approaching things from the same point of view as my. The scoring system in this thread has no mechanic to take time into account, and nor should it. The only point time ever really comes into consideration with the challenge was to say you have X amount of time paint as much as you damn well can!! Then going back to my point just because something might take a long time does not mean its worth more than something painted quicker. Time has no direct relevance with quality.
By all means blog your progress in a project thread and link to here. While it will be cool to see your progress there, as arguably you can do more detailed and regular updates, there will be no extra points for time taken. Lets drop the idea of time.
I am still offering the idea that models of that size get cool factor points.... So on the table where the model is scored for painting, conversion, detailing....... there will be a 4th slot for SH/GC called cool factor. Once the model is finished score it at double vehicle points and then submit it to the critique of the other Challengers for them to award cool points. After a week or so these cool points will be added together and put into your table to collate your final score for the model. Is anyone not happy with running it that way?
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So finally got around to painting the rest of my Alternative battle box for my troll blood army.
First is my warlock who is a character model (leader for a battlegroup for those unfamiliar with the game). I did a minor conversion so he would be holding a scroll as he seemed to be posed as though he was casting a spell. I did freehand icons on the scroll as well as did freehand plaid on his scarf which blended in nicely with the model.
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The second model is the Diretroll multikit. Instead of building him as one I magnatized him for all 3 options. He can be fielded as a mauler, a bomber, or a blitzer. All options painted an easy conversion with a little green stuff work so all the parts would fit and a custom mounting plate for the blitzers little pyg gunner on his back and it works pretty flawless. Great to have options with such a big model as you only need to worry about transporting one instead of making room for 3 in your warbag.
Bomber
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Blitzer
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Mauler
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August though not the most productive month I did get to put a lot of time into two centerpiece models in my Trollbloods army.
pDoomy (character) :painted, converted, detailed, and based : 10
Diretroll multikit (monster): Painted, converted, and based: 9
Total for August: 19 pts
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My LGS is running some sort of single-model Space Marine painting competition (loyalist-only). After asking advice from friends, I did some rework on the Turiel model from the DV set (whose paint I was pleased with originally) and spent some more time recoloring some areas that I missed, repainting his face, and adding highlights.
As far as I can tell, no points available, but hey, it's something.
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Ok, now the rest of the 'nids I finished in Aug.
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Zoanthrope: painted, based 2pts
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8 Genestealers: painted, based 16pts
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17 Devilgaunts: painted, based 34 pts
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8 Ymgarl Genestealers: painted, based 16pts
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Hive Tyrant: based 1pt
subtotal: 69pts
+ earlier post: 62 pts
Aug total: 131pts
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Fantastic Work everyone ... I have been so caught up in work that I have had to put away the paints.
However I can't let work over run my favorite past time ... hoping to have 5 Grey Knights & 5 GK Terminators done this month.
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time for some catching up. Meatspace seems to be settling into a new rythm for me which means I can finally turn attention back here!
I've looked through the discussions on super heavies (and indeed any alternative scale models) and I don't agree that time is necessarily a factor. There was a comment that someone with an airbrush can lay down much of the work for a super heavy in a fraction of the time... but the truth is that someone with an airbrush can equally lay down colours on 50 infantry in a fraction of the time as well... it's a feature of the tool being used. However an airbrush isn't going to get you the myriad of fine details that a brush will achieve.
Time, as also mentioned, is something that is also completely relative. Two people can paint the same model using the same tools and will take different amounts of time - because everyone has their own pace. One person shouldn't be scored more simply because it takes them longer.
I don't think that time is a score defining factor - and importantly we have made clear from the outset that "quality" is not the defining factor either. You are not being scored on how well you paint - because we want everyone to be able to push to paint to their best, whether that is golden daemon standard, or just enough to pass the three colour test for gaming! With that in mind, the only thing really left to score is per model, on a scale and quantity level.
Saying that then, I am happy to have large models judged as a group for points to be assigned - or set a defining score list.
Its funny though, because it does leave an interesting idea that a model twice the size doesn't always take twice the effort in the same way that a model half the size doesn't always take half the effort. Indeed, painting at smaller scales can sometimes be MORE challenging! If we do go with a set score system for superheavies (such as vehicles x2) it should be noted that even then some units may warrant further consideration... anyone producing a larger superheavy vehicle or titan scale kit would benefit from different scoring.
also, ive updated the first page with july and august tables of scores. There are some gaps such as no recorded score for LoH on july - LoH, (and everyone for that matter) can you check your scorings for those months and let me know by pm so I can fill in the gaps!
I will be posting an update pic of what I've been working on throughout August on my commission facebook page so keep your eyes peeled there! (You will not be dissapointed!)
iPaintmodels (https://www.facebook.com/iPaintmodels)
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Well, August was a quiet month, for me, although I did manage to get one game in:
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Here are my newly painted Reavers on the table.
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And here are my Incubi stood in the crater left by their exploding transport. This is why I never usually field Incubi.
3 vehicles and 1 squad on the table for the first time = 20 gaming point for August.
For September, I have been working on some conversions to be Grotesques for my Dark Eldar army. In their wisdom, GW decided to make a unit with a minimum size of x, but only produce 1 finecast pose for the model. I didn't fancy all of my monstrous infantry strike the exact same pose, so I went looking for conversion ideas and found this (http://eyeoferror.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/dark-eldar-grotesque-conversions.html).
Everblight Warspears from the Hordes game are pretty similar in style to GW's Wracks, but made on a 40mm scale, which makes them ideal to be the Wracks' big brothers. I used spare masks from the Talos/Cronos set to block off all their faces, and also used spare weapons and accessories to ensure that they tied in with the rest of my force.
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\Wow, those conversions look really really great!! thats a job well done if you ask me, you should be proud!
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\Wow, those conversions look really really great!! thats a job well done if you ask me, you should be proud!
Thanks Oink :D I hope to have them painted for the end of the month.
I do feel that there is still plenty more I could learn about sculpting with Green Stuff (there isn't really sculpting on them - I just used GS to cover cracks and smooth over details I didn't want), but I was really pleased with how these came out.
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So this month I got to kicking my butt a little bit as I got sick of playing with limited terrain and a partically painted battle board.
So this month I did nothing but terrain...
6 sections from the realm of battle board, each glued sand on the hills (as the models liked to slide when i play tested them) and primed from before partically painted so they got finished being painted, highlighted sealed, detailed, and then flocked. I think they turned out well
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Then I painted up a few craters which can always come in handy... picture looks a little orangish due to lighting and flash i guess but it is actually painted with left over paint from battle board. Just more highlight color so they would stand out a bit. (2 craters)
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And finally I wanted to test my first scratchbuilding for terrain out. So i bought a section of wood, a woodland scenery kit. This was one of the first sections of wood i cut out (as i needed different bits for one of my tools and had to use a reciprocating saw which wasn't safe nor easy to make round cuts and then i wore out my last sand paper thing for my rotary sander)
I think it turned out ok but i don't really like how flat it is might use plaster or something to add a bit of depth to future ones. But anyway this is it painted flocked and finished... Debating adding more flock to it though as I think it looks a little bare. (scratchbuilt and painted)
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Hopefully in the future I can make them a bit better as I still got more trees in my kit and also got some other cool things like plaster to work with (not sure how much of a mess that will make yet)
So this finishes off my active September month. To recap.... (I just used basic scoring on this)
6x sections of Realm of Battle Board fully painted, flocked and sealed= 30 points
2x craters fully painted and detailed= 10 points
1x custom built forest section (scratchbuilt, painted, flocked) = 10 points
September should give me atleast a decent 50 points.
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There's one!
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Never was too happy with the armor color on my Space Wolves company. I've been considering a Imperial Fists detatchment, and noticed that in the Sept. White Dwarf's Paint Splatter, they basecoated the model, then drowned it in wash, and then layered over the higher places with the basecoat again. I had my 50/50 Fenrisian Grey/The Fang and a bottle of Naggaroth Nightshade wash, which has a dark blush-purple tint to it. I had tried the same thing with Nuln Oil, but the model just came out looking dirty instead of shaded.
This particular model is a Wolf Guard Terminator with a power maul (converted from a thunder hammer) and storm bolter.
Order of operations for anyone else looking to try to replicate the effect:
Prime white
Basecoat with 50/50 Fenrisian Grey and The Fang
Drown in Naggaroth Nightshade
Relayer with the 50/50.
Highlight with Fenrisian Grey
Points (Infantry): Painted, converted (thunder hammer -> power maul). based, detailed (company icon on the shoulder). +4 points!
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Just finished painting this month's assignment :)
It's almost bedtime though, so pictures will have to wait until tomorrow. All I have done this month is paint up those Grotesques I converted, so that will be 5 x 4 (converted, painted, detailed and based) x 2 because they're monstrous infantry = 40 pts.
And I finally ordered that Riptide I've been promising myself, so guess what's next on the painting table ;D
@Angel of Death 007:
Good work on the scenery - I know how much of a grind it can be to soldier on with those big pieces, but it's worth it when you get your painted models out on a painted table.
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@LOH looks very clean. I still don't have power armor down, luckily I mostly only paint green skins.
@Plastikente. I agree the one thing missing has been my scenery. I still gotta do a few more craters and a few more custom forests (as the forests are much needed for warmahordes). I have all the ruins kits which I built 4 of and still have I think another one or two in boxes that really need paint. Atleast now when I have a game the scenery will look nice. Can't wait to see those Grotesques. The models looked awesome the way they were converted.
Not sure what will be happening for orktober yet. I am sure something will be in the works though...
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@Plastikente ... Can't wait to see those Grotesques.
And here they are:
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I am very pleased with how these came out, although I feel obliged to state again that using the Everblight Warspears wasn't my own idea. It has worked really well though. I wasn't intending to add the freehand details, but when I had finished everything else I really felt like something was missing. Hopefully they'll live up to their appearance on the table :D
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@Plastikente, those look amazing. Great work and love the decals. Funny thing is I just started to play Warmahordes and have been transitioning from Trollbloods into Legion. I like the warspear models but I think yours are even better.
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@Plastikente, those look amazing. Great work and love the decals.
Thanks :D The detail work isn't actually decals - the surfaces weren't the right size/flat enough to use transfers, so I painted them freehand. The designs are mostly copied from the transfer sheet though.
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Good work everyone!
I've done some painting this month! woot!
erm...
20 marines, 3 custodians. None have been based just yet, because I'm about 3 days worth of painting away from completing another 30odd marines and I'll base everyone together... (just frustrated that I missed my goal of getting them ALL done!)
There are a number of unique conversions and a whole lot of kit bashing in there plus they've all been given custom heads and detailed with a unique chapter symbol (its a commission for a unique chapter - that just so happens to look a bit like the Minotaurs).
Pictures will need to wait until the weekend when I get some time to dedicate to the task... at that point I will also update everyones scores...
It's nice to see a lot of variety in whats being worked on.
Also, LoH, that work is really nicely done! I must say it looks like a steady improvement over previous months in terms of clarity and solidness so its really good to see you taking the time to get it looking that way! well done!
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September turned out to be rather hectic for me and the only thing I managed to finish I think was my Trygon. I'll post pics up as soon as I can.
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First completed model of October! Following up on the other Wolf Guard Terminator model I did, replicated the armor effects.
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This model was an attempt to rescue an earlier configuration (was powerfist/stormbolter) and has seen a couple repaints and a simple green bath. No true conversion work, though. I am loving how the wolf claw blades turned out: I had a pot of Reaper "Frost" paint lying around, so after lightly painting/drybrushing several light GW blues onto it, I heavily drybrushed that onto the talons and then finished up with some ice blue.
Points: Painted, based, detailed (Company icon on shoulder pad freehand). 1+1+1=3 (infantry scoring) or 6+1+1=7 ("monstrous" on a 40mm base). I lost track as to how terminator-sized models would be scored.
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Sorry for the delay getting pics up, but here's my Trygon from September.
Painted and based: 7pts
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I lost track as to how terminator-sized models would be scored.
The "Monstrous" scoring is for monstrous creatures. We then decided at some point that certain large infantry could get double infantry points, eg Ogres, DE Grotesques, Tau battlesuits. I seem to recall us deciding that terminators weren't large enough to warrant that, but I can't find that conversation any more in the thread.
Good looking terminator, though :)
And a very nice Trygon from Gunner_Sabot_Tank.
I am currently twiddling my thumbs waiting for my Riptide to arrive :P
In the meantime though, I have been working on some small-scale projects to keep me busy. This is my converted Cadre Fireblade:
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Whatever the fluff may say, I picture the Fireblade as a battlefield tactician marking targets and directing the troops, not striding forward waving his gun in the air.
My Fireblade is a Tau vehicle crewman, with a spare Pulse rifle and a cloak that I made from paper coated in PVA and liquid green stuff. His mobile command station is made from a spare bit of vehicle hatch, a shield generator and a section cut from a blister pack. I photographed the components separately before finally gluing them together so that you can see the details without them being obscured:
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Independent Character, converted, painted, detailed and based = 10pts.
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I lost track as to how terminator-sized models would be scored.
The "Monstrous" scoring is for monstrous creatures. We then decided at some point that certain large infantry could get double infantry points, eg Ogres, DE Grotesques, Tau battlesuits. I seem to recall us deciding that terminators weren't large enough to warrant that, but I can't find that conversation any more in the thread.
Good looking terminator, though :)
Thanks, your Fireblade is looking good too. About the only thing I'd mention about it is that it's rather large; a 40mm base would probably have been more appropriate.
Figures I'd finally find a method to produce good-looking Space Wolf armor and it necessitates stripping several squads down to the primer and starting over.
I have 2 more Terminators, 20 infantry and two drop pods to finish by the 19th for a tournament. Go go magic airbrush.
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I haven't been able to paint in a few months. I started a new job and I have been working six and seven days a week. The new space marines sucked me back in. I'm already working on my centurions with grav cannons and an omniscope.
This is first time I have ever painted with yellow like this. Perhaps the last.
27 points for the squad
8 for the librarian
= 35
*. edit: fixed the link and some grammar.
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Thanks, your Fireblade is looking good too. About the only thing I'd mention about it is that it's rather large; a 40mm base would probably have been more appropriate.
You're probably right that a 40mm base would have looked better; I just wanted to keep it on the same size that the citadel Fireblade would have come on.
Next item for killing time before the Riptide...
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This Harlequin Troupe Master has been sat on my desk for ages, waiting for me to build up the motivation to tackle him. My other 7 Harlequins are painted in black/white, with each getting a different rainbow colour as a spot colour. For the squad leader, the Technicolour Dreamcoat seemed an abvious way to go. It is the first time I have really tried wet blending, and the first time I have tried to blend across such a range of shades. I am roughly satisfied with the finished effect, but I hope that with practice I will get a smoother transition. I also couldn't really work out how to shade and highlight the cloak effectively.
Anyway, 1 converted (extended his power sword into a power lance, which is still legal under the DE Codex, but the new CWE Codex makes it explicitly a power sword :(), painted, detailed and based model = 4 pts.
Some time later...
Things to do whilst waiting for your Riptide
#3 - Paint 32 Lizards
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At a recent clearout, my local gaming society discovered the remains of a WHFB 5th Edition box set. All the Bretonnians had gone, but the Lizardmen were still on their sprues. As the lot was just going to get thrown in the bin I acquired them for no cost.
Sadly, skinks can no longer be armed with bows, so these are not strictly WYSIWYG, but I am sure my regular opponents will let me count them as blowpipes.
This is my first attempt in a long time at horde painting, so I have deliberately tried to set aside my usual perfectionism and focus on getting them good enough to game with as simply and quickly as possible.
32 models painted + based = 64pts, bringing my running total for this month to 78pts.
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I got bored painting so much blue so I finished up my wave serpent. Having to dry
brush my highlights took forever. I think I started this guy in May or June and never finished him
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I also got my first game in months on Sunday. Calgar did not survive the day losing three wounds to AP minus weapons. The sergeant was the only remaining member of the squad. He survived long enough for my thunderfire cannon to enact vengeance before the orcs could assault again.
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Here my librarian with hallucination kept my thunderfire cannon and combat squad with a plasma cannon from being assaulted by ard boyz.
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10 points for 2 units in a game
6 for the vehicle
51 points so far
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While I wasn't able to completely repaint those squads in time for the tournament, I am going back to painting a couple models a night. Let's see how far I get with my Great Company.
Painted, Based, Detailed (pack insignia and Great Company insignia).
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Points; (1+1+1)x3 = 9
EDIT: Got another one done. This one I made use of some of the FW Mark III heads I had traded bits for.
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My centurion devestators. I can't wait to give them a try. Three grav cannons/grav amps should be devastating. I liked the angry yelling faces too much to put helmets on any of them.
I'm not sure how to score very bulky models. I'm assuming they count as 2 infantry models a piece like a heavy weapons team. I'm still not sure what counts as detailing either.
If so
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Very bulky 6 3
Character 6 1
67 points this month
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Trying to finish up my elder allies I started when the codex came out before I forget I have them. I still have a flier and three jetbikes in a box. Here is my spiritseer:
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My next will be my third Legion of the Damned squad with plasma weapons:
I learned from building this that I need a hobby saw. Clipping created some raised edges that I had to trim, file, and fill in with green stuff.
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My centurion devestators. I can't wait to give them a try. Three grav cannons/grav amps should be devastating. I liked the angry yelling faces too much to put helmets on any of them.
My Tau found them pretty scary, although I took advantage of their limited range by running away!
I'm not sure how to score very bulky models. I'm assuming they count as 2 infantry models a piece like a heavy weapons team. I'm still not sure what counts as detailing either.
I would definitely count Space Marine Battlesuits as large enough for double points. And your models do get (double) detail points too - transfers or hand-painted markings count.
And now, the model I was waiting for... [drum roll]
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The pose for my Riptide was inspired by the cover art on the Tau Empire codex (although the suit on the cover isn't a Riptide).
I love how posable the kit is - a real improvement on the old XV8s, which I have frequently had to cut up and re-pin to get the pose I want.
The scenery on the base was constructed from spare parts from an Imperial Sector box set I got a few Christmases ago.
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I magnetised all of the weapons options to allow me to chop and change.
Monstrous creature, painted, detailed and based = 8 pts
Ironically, it's only worth 1/8th of the points I got for the regiment of skinks I painted to kill time until it arrived ::)
Maybe I should change army ;)
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Plastikente your Riptide has got to be one of the most remarkable things I have ever seen on this forum. The paint scheme, base & pose all come together in a perfect storm of excellence. I can't believe that it is only worth 8 points.
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Plastikente your Riptide has got to be one of the most remarkable things I have ever seen on this forum.
I agree. That riptide looks amazing. I especially like what you did with the ion accelerator. Planning on building a second or a third?
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Centurions 6 3 3
Spiritseer 6 0 1
Tactical Squad 9 9 9
Librarian 6 1 1
Wave Serpent 6
10 for pictures in a game
70 points for October
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Plastikente your Riptide has got to be one of the most remarkable things I have ever seen on this forum. The paint scheme, base & pose all come together in a perfect storm of excellence. I can't believe that it is only worth 8 points.
Wow, thanks very much. I am very proud of it, but it's always nice to know that other people like it too.
As for the points issue, it doesn't really bother me. We know the system is not perfect, but it serves as a helpful motivator rather than the be-all and end-all.
I agree. That riptide looks amazing. I especially like what you did with the ion accelerator. Planning on building a second or a third?
I'm not sure my pocket money will stretch to that at the moment ;)
I entered my Tau in a campaign that is being run by my LGS because I wanted the motivation to add some of the new models to my collection. I like variety though, so the Riptide will be followed by a Sunshark and a Missileside.
The Riptide hasn't been out to play yet, but here is my Fireblade in the centre of my defensive deployment at the beginning of a recent game against a Khorne based Daemons of Chaos army.
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5 gaming points brings my October total to 91pts.
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This is my 3rd Legion of the Damned squad. I wanted them to stick out a bit from the other two so I tried out a blue flame paint scheme. The plasma gun and plasma cannon were a huge pain to make. I had to mix resin and plastic which required a fair amount of cutting, sanding, filing, and green stuff. I should probably buy a hobby saw.
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I tried out the new maccrage spray paint from GW on this instead of using a black primer and painting the 1st coat using maccrage blue. I am pretty sure this saved me a few hours.
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LOD 2 5 2 5
Hunter 6 2
Total 22
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Well I finally got around to finishing the Sentinel I started last month. I kinda got tired of painting my 'Nids so I figured I'd go back and work on finishing the mountain of Imperial Guard models I have that are only really half painted. I hope to have a few more done and posted before the end of the month.
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I'm not sure why the pics came out like that, but the base edge is a darker brown, not almost orange like they look.
Painting 6, basing 1, total 7pts
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I have been working on this Flyer for my Tau:
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My Sunshark Bomber - painted with the same camo-scheme as all of my other vehicles and plenty of Sept markings in Sotek green. It may not be 100% clear from the angle of the photo, but the stand has been modelled such that the bomber is diving.
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I built it as the Bomber rather than the Strike Fighter because I don't think it looks sleek enough to be anything with "fighter" in the name. And I'm a big fan of the pulse bomb generator and interceptor drones
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I used two pairs of magnets to attach my Sunshark to the flying stand so that it's diving.
The first pair is at the rear of the x, one on top of the flying stand and one mounted in green stuff on the flyer. I then had to file an extension to the front of the x-hole in the flyer, and a groove in the markerlight mount. The second pair of magnets was set into this hole in the markerlight turret (more green stuff) and a drilled hole in the front of the flying stand.
I then painted the magnets on the flying to look like landing lights.
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Vehicle painted and detailed = 8pts
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This was not a particularly fun one to paint. The pink and white take so many layers to get the brush strokes out of them.
I have a temple base from secret weapon miniatures that goes with it but isn't done yet. I'll get around to it eventually. The next two projects should be much more enjoyable to paint. I have a squad of inquisitor storm troopers and a 5 man honor guard I am making using a mixture of a vanguard and tactical squad bits. I have even tried using a hobby drill for the first time on the bolt pistols.
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vehicle painted = 6 points
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This was not a particularly fun one to paint. The pink and white take so many layers to get the brush strokes out of them.
I know what you mean about the light colours. Personally, I really like Eldar and Tau vehicles though - the large, gently curving surfaces offer great opportunities for freehand detail work.
I have not achieved much else this month, apart from getting my Sunshark into a game or two:
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My Taudar were thoroughly trounced in this game due to my poor list selection which basically meant I had very little which could hurt the front armour of the 3 soul grinders my opponent turned up with. D'oh!
I have also used my Riptide in a few games, but keep forgetting to collect evidence ::). Therefore 1 new model on the table = 5 gaming points this month, to go with my 8 modelling poinst and leaving me with a very low total overall. Ho-hum.
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Well, it looks like I only managed to finish one of my Guardsmen. He's a Vet Sgt converted from the FW Stormtrooper Chimera Commander.
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Points, Character: Paint 6, Convert 2, Base 1=9
+Sentinel, 7= 16pts for Nov
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Got one more model done before the end of November, and it was my test model for Imperial Fists, a single Vet. Sgt. As I keep getting prizes at LGS events, I now have enough sprues for a decent little ally force for Imperial Fists, 5th Company. That and a pile of Scout models from my SW battleforces (I rarely use Wolf Scouts, so...). I don't know yet how I'm going to do the squad #s on the rest of the models. White in the tac symbol arrow would be nice, but so is the lower corner. The base is Liquitex Coarse Medium, spread and then painted after drying.
The color scheme was ridiculously straightforward, cribbing a bit off of the WD paint splatter from the space marine issue. I didn't like the brightness of their armor, so mine is prime white -> airbrush averland sunset -> wash sepia -> layer averland sunset -> highlight yriel yellow. Chestpiece is ironbreaker -> nuln wash -> runefang drybrush.
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Painted, Based, Detailed (IF decal on one pad and freehand tactical arrow on other pad and squad designation, freehand, in roman numerals).
1+1+1 = 3pts
First model of December! Test model for a group of 6 Arcoflagellants. After much deliberation, I decided to do the cloth like my original Sisters color scheme. I rather like it, but it can be rather drab. It looks a lot better with the flesh and shiny metal bits. And I got to try some of the new Blood for the Blood God splatter. While I don't often use Arcoflagellants, the box was only $30 USD for 6 of them and they're metal. I pity anyone with Finecast versions of these sculpts. Pinned every last one of the arms and GS gap filled to boot. That color on the robes/hood are an accidental "olive" coloration I found by layering sepia and nuln oil washes over Administratum Grey.
The basing is Liquitex Modeling paste. It goes on like frosting. I think I'm going to play around with it on some objectives; I think I can get an awesome looking ice/snow look with it.
Are we counting splatters like I've added as detailing?
1 infantry model, painted and based. 2(+1) = 2/3 pts
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EDIT:
Finished the rest of the arcoflagellants. Turns out the robes work out better if I drybrush-highlight them before the wash pair. Also broke down and airbrushed the basecoat of Rakarth on the exposed skin areas.
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5 infantry models, painted, based, (detailed?): 5+5(+5) = 10/15pts
December total (so far): 12/18
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So is it to late to enter in this friendly little comp? I would like to get involved if it is still allowed. I know it has only a month left but would like to do this.
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So is it to late to enter in this friendly little comp? I would like to get involved if it is still allowed. I know it has only a month left but would like to do this.
Of course you can. If there's interest in keeping the statistics up, I'm all for resetting points in the new year.
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Just finished my 1st Wraith Knight. Here it is....
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Um I guess it's 6 pts.
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@Dread
Don't forget your point for basing that huge model! How did you do the cracked/plated effect? Did you hand paint all of those lines in or did you use some sort of grid to paint over?
The helmet on him looks fantastic.
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So is it to late to enter in this friendly little comp? I would like to get involved if it is still allowed. I know it has only a month left but would like to do this.
Of course you can. If there's interest in keeping the statistics up, I'm all for resetting points in the new year.
I'd say tally up some 2013 totals, post them, then reset everything for the new year.
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@Dread
Don't forget your point for basing that huge model! How did you do the cracked/plated effect? Did you hand paint all of those lines in or did you use some sort of grid to paint over?
The helmet on him looks fantastic.
Thanks Ludo. It is all hand painted. It's the scheme I've used forever but it just doesn't get old. I've got about 20 hours in it. As for the helmet, that was the last thing I painted on it because I really didn't know what I was gonna do, I am happy with the results.
1 point for base.
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My inquisitorial stormtroopers. I've kept their right shoulder pads free for when I finally get some inquisitor transfers.
I have my honor guard converted from tactical and vanguard squads (plus some extra bits) already built and primed. Hopefully I can get them done before Christmas.
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Stormtroopers 10 10 10 10
40 total
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Nice! They look tasty, er, um nicely done.
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@Dread: Welcome to The Challenge! And that Wraithknight is an awesome way to start it off. I love your colour scheme - very striking.
@Ludo - nice work on the stormtroopers. Those gas masks make are very intimidating, in a latex-kinky sort of way ???
I'd say tally up some 2013 totals, post them, then reset everything for the new year.
I agree entirely.
As for me, I have been working on some old Dark Eldar character models:
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Kruellagh the Vile was an implausibly buxom DE special Character in the old Codex who appeared to favour costumes made of nothing but fishing wire. She didn't make it into the 5th Edition revamp. I picked up this model with a load of other old DE minis at my LGS and decided to repaint her. I modified her bizarre skipping stance by placing a slaughtered guardsman under her boot, and coated his corpse and her hands with liberal amounts of the new "Blood for the Blood God" paint.
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And this is Ssynthia, my latest Haemonculus - another take on this classic model. The extended spine / tail and the proboscis are taken from the Cronos/Talos kit, and the extra arm comes from a Finecast Wrack. I cut and twisted the tail as much as I could but failed to get it to a position where the model could be free-standing so I added a spare Raider prow to support the model. More "Blood for the Blood God" made a pool of blood for her base.
2 x character, converted, painted and based = 18pts.
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My honor guard are complete. I mixed a vanguard box, a tactical box, and some spare bits I had lying around to create them. I was pondering for quite awhile how to paint their helmets and their shoulder pad trim. I didn't want to give them white helmets and have them looking like normal 1st company veterans. I also didn't want to give them all blue or gold shoulder pad trim and have them looking like a command squad. I settled on doing one from each company 2-5 plus one with a gold helmet to represent the chapter champion.
I tried to do gold edge highlights on them to represent the artificer armor. I'm pleased with how they turned out.
I also tried something I've never done before. I bought a hobby drill and drilled out all the barrels to their bolt pistols.
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1.Infantry 5 5 5 5
20 points for today
60 for December
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Nice work on the honour guard :)
I was looking recently at my Dark Eldar collection and thought that my Lady Malys...
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...looked a bit lonely as the sole blue model among a sea of red, so I have painted her some friends minions. These are more of my almost endless supply of old 3rd Ed Kabalite Warrors, modified slightly with a few bits from the recent casts (and some kroot!).
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There will be 5 more soon, to complete the squad.
After doing that, I was inspired to retouch Lady Malys' paint job. I added extra highlights to her armour, hair and skin, and some areas of bronze metal to provide a counterpoint the the overall cool colour scheme. Personally, I think the result is an improvement (not sure you can really tell at the picture size though - if in doubt, check my Flickr).
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No points for Malys (I've already claimed her once this year, I think). But 5 x converted, painted and based + 1 x detailed = 16 pts to add to December's total.
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And, as promised, here are the remaining 5 Kabalites:
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I actually painted them before finishing work for Christmas, but I haven't had the time to post pics until now. 5 x converted, painted and based = 15 pts, bringing December's total to 49.
As for next year, do we want a new thread (my preference), or are we just going to continue this one? Oink and -V- were the trailblazers for this year, but I haven't heard much from them for a little while. You guys still out there?
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I really like your Mayls and your color choices. Can't wait to see more.
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@Plastikente
I think we should do a new thread but I think their has to be a little bit of a redux on how point systems work. The old system was ok but it should just be a very general scoring.
For example:
1 pt each for regular infantry if they are built, painted and based
2pts each for larger infantry 40mm bases or bikes (of any variant)
3pts each for monsterous creatures or 60mm bases including walkers or anything mounted on a 60 mm base
5pts for vehicles not on bases which are the size of a rhino or bigger (so standard tanks) also in this to include scenery kits and custom scenery.
It should be fair for everyone who wants to enter, no soft scores for gaming, conversions or detailing. I think this would encourage more people to enter and you can paint your army how you want. Do the minimum of atleast 3 colors to gaming standards and be based to count. It should focus on getting armies and terrain onto the table and hope to motivate everyone to get off their butts and participate. Ofcourse if you want to go the extra and do all the detailing and conversions then great as it will just make your army look that much better. I think a lot of armies are not conversion friendly not to mention a lot of beginners are not going to get detailing down and how can you say one persons model is detailed and not another or what qualifies.
If you want to do a gaming score to keep people playing then give them 1 pt per each game played with a max of 5 pts per month.
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@Plastikente
I think we should do a new thread but I think their has to be a little bit of a redux on how point systems work. The old system was ok but it should just be a very general scoring.
For example:
1 pt each for regular infantry if they are built, painted and based
2pts each for larger infantry 40mm bases or bikes (of any variant)
3pts each for monsterous creatures or 60mm bases including walkers or anything mounted on a 60 mm base
5pts for vehicles not on bases which are the size of a rhino or bigger (so standard tanks) also in this to include scenery kits and custom scenery.
It should be fair for everyone who wants to enter, no soft scores for gaming, conversions or detailing. I think this would encourage more people to enter and you can paint your army how you want. Do the minimum of atleast 3 colors to gaming standards and be based to count. It should focus on getting armies and terrain onto the table and hope to motivate everyone to get off their butts and participate. Ofcourse if you want to go the extra and do all the detailing and conversions then great as it will just make your army look that much better. I think a lot of armies are not conversion friendly not to mention a lot of beginners are not going to get detailing down and how can you say one persons model is detailed and not another or what qualifies.
If you want to do a gaming score to keep people playing then give them 1 pt per each game played with a max of 5 pts per month.
So I currently own many thousands of points of marines. I'm not really looking to field a large amount of models. I'd rather field a few that I have spent more time on detailing, converting, and such. I think your scoring penalizes people that want to do heavy detailed models over a large volume of models.
I do think we should tweak the points a bit though not as much as you have suggested. I think our current scoring system penalizes people who make larger models such as MCs and tanks. It takes me twice as long to paint a vehicle as it does a squad and I get 1/4 to 1/2 the points for doing so.
I like the suggestion to remove the gaming scores.
I also think we should start a new thread.
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I take time doing detail work on my models, not so much free hand but a lot of dry brushing, shadows, highlights and edges. The problem is detailing is worth the same as painting a model for your base line models. Granted it takes a while sometimes longer if you do a lot of free hand but where is the cut off line of detailed? is it anything over the 3 color minimum, is it blended models, lighting effects, non metal metallic, or is it nice highlighting / shadowing?
I started to play kill teams just recently so those models, because there is 25 in my total 200 pt army, are going to be highly detailed once I start on them. I got a bunch of older unique catachan models and I plan on doing some free hand camo. Generally I would probably base them, wash them, do a few high lights and pick out the details, which is how I paint all my models because even if I have 200 boyz I want them to stand out. But in the average army it is overkill and can really push a beginner who tried painting away from painting or even wanting to paint more than encourage them.
See with GW's painted models and seeing the entries into some of the painting competitions I can say that there will never be a day when I paint that good. I am too slow, have shaky hands, never took an art class and all my skills are learned from practice. To paint one model up to that level with all the shading highlights and possibly blending (wet blending is a nightmare) it would take me as long to paint one model as it would probably 1/4 of my army and I paint slow. So even with centerpiece models usually dies out with an extra highlight and picking out details to make them pop.
I never realized how frustrating it can be for a new painter until my step son who is 10 decided to pick up the hobby. He told me at one point he didn't want to paint anymore because it was not as good as I paint and everyone likes my stompa. I told him the stompa took me a solid month straight of painting in all my free time and over 10 years of painting models and even then it is no competition entry by any means.
In my own personal learning experiences recently, it was picking up P3 paint line and attempting wet blending. I can promise you I will NEVER get that down and after several really good failed attempts, I have no desire to do so anymore. It is a lot of work with too much room for error. I will stick to my dry brushing, shading, washes, and highlighting.
So I do feel in the end that there should be a way for detailing to be rewarded, but playing across the table from someone with minimum painted models is better than gray plastic half assembled models (trust me been there personally) so there is a sense of reward for that too. I also think that the painting challenge should be to motivate everyone to want to pick up a brush and get their army on the board, not just a showcase for excellent painters to show their stuff like some sort of competition. We do have some phenomenal painters on this forum as can be seen in some of the past painting competitions, in the painting vows, and in this challenge but I am afraid the average painter might get discouraged which is why we need a good mix of people participating in an environment where they feel like it is not like a competition of skill but one of personal accomplishment. Let's face it in the end there is no prize or reward other than maybe the personal reward that goes along with fielding or showcasing your painted models, or maybe for some the bragging rights.
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I think the basic question for the scoring system is, "what do we want to encourage?"
Oink and -V- devised the system for this year with the intention of encouraging each other (and anyone else who joined) to progress their standards of painting and modelling, hence points for conversions and detailing. Angel of Death 007 has suggested a simple system to "focus on getting armies and terrain onto the table and hope to motivate everyone to get off their butts and participate" (although you are against points for gaming - surely they are a good thing if the objective is to get stuff "onto the table"?). Either system is valid; they do different things.
Both systems to my mind prioritise small models (or penalise large ones, depending on how you look at it) - a vehicle or large walker will easily take me as long as 10 grunts, but won't earn me as many points under either system. And then again, painting a Rhino is worth the same as painting a Baneblade. We are not going to find a system that keeps everyone happy.
My personal preference is to stick with this year's scoring. I like the encouragement to convert and detail (=freehand patterns and/or transfers for the purposes of scoring) my minis. But I will still participate if everyone else wants to adopt AoD's proposed scoring system.
We also need someone to volunteer to be the score keeper for next year. They should be the person to start the 2014 challenge thread so that they can keep going back to that first post and update the scores. I would do it, but I am expecting to be at sea for portions of next year, so I won't have regular connectivity. I guess that whoever keeps score will have the final say over which system we use ;)
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So who is picking up the Challenge for 2014? I d like to participate even though i know that i dont have much time for painting. It certainly gives some outside motivation and i loved the painting oath thread from a couple years back.
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We certainly are still here plastikente!! I have to say though what with my operation and Oinks new business venture neither of us have had even a chance to paint or hobby or post since August I think. That being said December did see me finish 12 leman russ tanks for my brothers armoured company... its only taken me 6 years to get round to doing these for him.
I have been watching all he updates on here though and what I see is great.
Obviously a thread like this works well if it has managed to survive without 2 main posters and the 'leadership' of myself or Oink for a long time. It shows to me that people want to get involved and enjoy the premise of earning points.
A new thread should be started I would suggest and I am willing to set it up properly.
If you guys wish to see anything changed please post here and I will introduce it into the new thread. As for scoring its now up to you guys... this system used was designed to work for oink and me as it was intended to be between us. If you guys can devise a better system or at least can agree on a few changes then again I will integrate them.... Previously in challenges points have been awarded equal to the points value of the item finished.... this restricts against things like hordes/warmachine etc with low points values but it might be somethign to consider...for example 10 tact marines tend to work out a similar points value as 1 tank?
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My main suggestion for when setting up the new thread is clarify what constitutes conversion. To my mind, conversion means I've had to remodel the bits or use GS to make them work but I've seen some guys on here claim conversion points when all they did was use compatible 3rd party parts. I'm not trying to rag on those people, just wanting clear definitions. The same goes for detailing. That's of course assuming we stick with the same system.
On the surface, the points cost based system seems good, but I see potential issues. The main one is some armies are still running 4th/5th Ed codecies which aren't costed the same as 6th Ed codecies. Also, other gaming systems run (I would assume) off completely different point systems.
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The points for detailing have been clearly defined at various stages through this thread. However I agree that with the new thread a very clear what constitutes what should be defined on post one page one.
Defining conversion may be harder... what is converting? Kitbashing? aftermarket parts? scratch built or sculpted pieces? Some of these may be beyond peoples skills or means and in no way are points available meant to exclude people based on their skills or resources. GW seems to define converting as using compatible parts from other kits so at its very most basic a head swap is still a conversion.
Yeah the points system can and does work as long as everyone uses the same playbook. I racked up 4000+ points in one month against Oink when this system was used. The difference doesn't come so much from older edition codecies as it does from different game systems. What if some one want to paint blood bowl (monetary points system) warmahordes (entire armies only costing 30-50 points) Flames of War which I have no idea how its point system works. This is why the system used this time was chosen rather than the points system we'd used previously.
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So here's what I managed to get done in Dec: one of my Inquisitors and a handful of IG HWTs and Sgts/Officers
Malleus Inquisitor w/ Daemonblade
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Painted-6, Converted-2, Based-1=9pts
5 Sgts/Officers
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Painted-6x5, Converted 2x5, Based 1x5=45pts
2 Sgts
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Painted 6x2, Based 1x2=14pts
5 HWTs
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Painted 2x5, Based 2x5=20pts
Total= 88pts for Dec
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A new thread should be started I would suggest and I am willing to set it up properly.
This is good news and I hope the rest of this threads participants take up your offer. I really look forward to the posts that occur in this thread. They very nearly make me want to paint something (but I quickly resist the urge as I hate painting).
Gunner_Sabot_Tank I really like the way you have painted your IG. The heavy weapon (the thing on a tripod) is particularly striking. You have managed to make it look gritty and realistic. The mud on its base is also some of the best I have seen. Is it a trick of the light or does it actually look as wet in real life as it does in the pictures?
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Thanks, that's the look I was going for. I think the light helped a bit but the wash and drybrush also factor into the effect.
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Before setting up the new thread I would like to clarify or discuss the scoring system to be used. I don't want the new thread cluttered initially with scoring suggestions or discussion just clearly worded rulings that everyone understands.....
If anyone has a better suggestion for the scoring system other than the one used for this then please come ahead and enlighten us make your suggestions or even just tell me whether you are happy to use the current one. Ideally as soon as possible so it can be set up soon
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I'm happy with the current system as long as things are clearly defined as we'd said a few posts back. The only other thing I might suggest is maybe add a category for SHV and GC models. I still have plans to do my Inquisitorial Stormlord that I was talking about a couple months back.
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Amen to that! Just got a Wraithknight for Xmas, are we ready yet to start the 2014 challenge or does the points system need revising first?
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From a bystanders view the system looks just fine and i am happy to participate within the current pointsystem.
Lets roll people! 8)
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We will stick with the current system. I will make the new thread tonight.
I have had a thought as to the scoring of super heavy and gargantuan creatures... They will be scored at half their points value with an additional 10 bonus points available for certain things. What do you think of that?
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We certainly are still here plastikente!! I have to say though what with my operation and Oinks new business venture neither of us have had even a chance to paint or hobby or post since August I think.
Hooray ;D I was worried that you two had been captured in meatspace.
We will stick with the current system. I will make the new thread tonight.
I have had a thought as to the scoring of super heavy and gargantuan creatures... They will be scored at half their points value with an additional 10 bonus points available for certain things. What do you think of that?
I like the current score system, but I think your suggestion for super heavies may be a bit generous. That would mean getting about 250 pts for a Baneblade-type tank, which is the equivalent of roughly 60 converted, detailed and based troops. I would be more inclined to score them as just 2x or 3x the value of a MC. There's also the fact that some models (Wraithknights) are huge, but still only count as MCs in game terms, so perhaps we might like to have some leeway to score them like a double MC, for example.
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Challenge 2014 (http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=227632.0) is up and running. This year sees the inclusion of superheavies and gargantuan creatures!
Post Merge: January 8, 2014, 01:17:34 PM
In the future, please use the modify button. Double posting is against the forum rules, and for that reason, the system merged your posts.
Ok so I have been asked as to whether an 'official'toatl of people's points for the year would be posted. Ive done what I can trawling through all the posts here since August (which is when unofficially Oink and I became unable to carry on monitoring and updating everything. However I have gathered together every score that I could find posted for the months of Sept - Dec and added it onto your last grand total and here are the scores in order.
1. Plastikente 555
2. -V- 523
3. Oink 382
4. LOH 302
5. Ludo. 240
6. Gunner Sabbot Tank 230
7.. AOD 221
8. Sparto 19
9. Dread 10
Congratulations to everyone for an awesome effort and a whole load of painted lovelyness. Its good to see how peoples productivity and quality improved throughout the competition and I certainly have to say Kudos to LoH who in my oppinion showed the most improvement in quality from his initial offerings to his last.
So the target to beat for 2014 is 555 points. Can anyone do it?