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Community => Non-40k Gaming => Topic started by: Eagle of the Stars on June 23, 2004, 12:01:10 PM

Title: 12th Black Crusade?
Post by: Eagle of the Stars on June 23, 2004, 12:01:10 PM
This seems like a good place to put this since it is about BFG.

In Armada there is a passage that reads: ...the Black Crusade which ravaged the Gothic sector between 142.M41 and 160.M41. (p42) Does this mean that the Gothic War was considered a Black Crusade?
Title: Re: 12th Black Crusade?
Post by: Uzzy on June 23, 2004, 04:49:44 PM
No, the Gothic War was something entirely different.

They went through the Arx Gap, bypassing Cadia. They then ravaged the entire Gothic sector, untill the Planet Killer was crippled.

I think for it to be consider a Black Crusade, it needs two things.

1. An attack on Cadia/Cadian Gate.
2. Insane numbers of Chaos followers.
Title: Re: 12th Black Crusade?
Post by: Eagle of the Stars on June 24, 2004, 01:24:21 PM
So your saying its a misprint?
Title: Re: 12th Black Crusade?
Post by: Uzzy on June 24, 2004, 06:42:41 PM
I guess I am. Though its probably another case of GW messing up thier fluff (which often happens). A Black Crusade has an objective, namely Earth. The Gothic War was really just a load of rampaging, with some Blackstone Fortresses being nicked.
Title: Re: 12th Black Crusade?
Post by: Insidious Heresy on June 27, 2004, 06:34:41 AM
The event known as the Gothic War was one of Abbadon's Black Crusades. 
Black Crusades are pretty much just anytime Abbadon leads a sizeable attack on worlds outside of the EoT, and some Black Crusades have been launched in the opposite direction of Terra to say that Terra is goal of a single Black Crusade would be wrong.
Title: Re: 12th Black Crusade?
Post by: Uzzy on June 27, 2004, 12:06:18 PM
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The event known as the Gothic War was one of Abbadon's Black Crusades. 


Really, were did you find that?

'Goes to check Eye of Terror book'

Oh, ok then. Yes the Gothic War is counted as a Black Crusade. Dont know why, but heck, when should reason stand in the way of GW's fluff.
Title: Re: 12th Black Crusade?
Post by: Wargamer on June 28, 2004, 06:12:10 AM
I know why!

1) The whole Gothic sector was plunged into anarchy.

2) Countless lives were lost (and a planet blown up!).

3) The Blackstone Fortresses were lost.

Overall, it was a major campaign, not just some minor boarder skirmish.
Title: Re: 12th Black Crusade?
Post by: Uzzy on June 28, 2004, 07:55:05 AM
Yes but the term Crusade indicates an objective, namely Earth. Unless the Blackstone Fortresses were the objectives?

The Gothic War was really Abaddon partying with his new toy. And who can blame him
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Title: Re: 12th Black Crusade?
Post by: Wargamer on June 28, 2004, 09:26:56 AM
The objective was to capture the Blackstones, so yes, it was a Black Crusade.