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Offline Galef

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Since the drop of 6th ed, my tournament list has been Necrons (flyer spam + Imotehk).  I always fielded 4 Nightscythes, 1 Doom Scythe and 1 unit of Wraiths with a D-lord.

Recently my local meta has shifted towards larger ground forces.  So I am ditching the Doomscythe for more Wraiths.

My main force looks like this:

Imotehk
D-lord w/ MSS & Weave

Chorontek (for Imotehk), 3 Stormteks

4 minimum units of Guass Immortals in 4 Nightscythes

2 Annihilation Barges
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for the other 580pts, I can't decide between these 2 options:

6 Wraiths w/ 4 P-casters (D-lord bodyguard)
5 Wraiths
5 Wraiths
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10 Scarabs (possibly with D-lord)
6 Wraiths w/ 1 P-caster (b/c I had extra pts)
6 Wraiths w/ 1 P-caster (b/c I had extra pts)

The all Wraith option gives me multiple similar threat coverage, while the mixed option gives my more versatility.

I like the P-casters with Preferred Enemy in the all Wraith option.  Gives me more option to pop a transport and charge the contents.

The Scarab option appeals to me more, but I have seen too many games where my scarabs had no viable targets to charge before they were blown off the table.
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Re: Tournament list: All Wraiths OR 2 unit Wraiths & 1 full Scarab unit?
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2013, 06:18:41 AM »
I'm leaning toward the second option. But I'd put the Destroyer Lord with a unit of wraiths and not the scarabs, along with all the particle casters (from all the spare points) so that they can benefit from the Lord's Preferred Enemy.

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Re: Tournament list: All Wraiths OR 2 unit Wraiths & 1 full Scarab unit?
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2013, 11:23:45 AM »
Thanks for the reply! ;D  I know that's the better option, but it kills my OCD.  I like having multiples of the exact same option, with the third being different.

With the scarab option I will be using the scarabs to advance forward in the center, while the Wraiths flank.  The idea is to have the D-lord close enough to either Wraith unit to join them in a turn I want to charge, effectively extending the D-lords threat range.

Having the D-lord in the Scarab unit makes it a bigger threat to distract my opponent from shooting my Wraiths.
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My only hesitation with the all Wraith option is that I own 6 Wraith models and 10 converted out of Preatorian torso backs and scratch-built tails.

I am very pleased with the conversions as the are bigger than the old metal Wraiths, but they are still smaller then the new Plastics.

I am afraid that my opponent will see the bigger unit with the D-lord and focus fire on it, forcing the D-lord to switch units.
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I am afraid that my opponent will see the bigger unit with the D-lord and focus fire on it, forcing the D-lord to switch units.

Might not be such a bad thing, at least it takes the pressure of the rest of your army.

You could try taking a second destroyer lord, and have both lead the units of wraiths down the flanks with the scarabs in the center. your opponent wouldn't know what to shoot at first :D.

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I can't run 2 D-lords, as there would be no way to get the Crypteks that make the Immortal units so good.

However, I tried out the Scarab/Wraith units list and having the D-lord in the Scarab unit really made my opponent have to choose his targets.  Eventually 1 of the 2 Wraith units was dead, but the other was untouched and ran through his Marines.
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I would view your Scarabs as an incredible force multiplier. Given the large amount of high volume strength 6 and 7 attacks in your army, being able to drop the AV of a Land Raider / Russ / Battlewagon / Predator by even 2 points would make those weapons soooo powerful. Against lesser vehicles, you're probably wrecking one a turn with a couple of Tesla Destructors.

Being inexperienced with Necrons, I wonder if you might be better off with a pair of smaller Scarab squads, and a single large Wraith unit? That way, you could cripple, then kill, two vehicles a turn, and still have a real hammer unit to smash things with. If your opponent is running mostly infantry, then you could use the scarabs as tie-ups for shooty infantry, while your Destructors deal death to choppy infantry... and your Wraiths do their thing.

Like I said, I don't have any meaningful experience with 'crons, so that may not be viable. :)

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I wonder if you might be better off with a pair of smaller Scarab squads, and a single large Wraith unit? That way, you could cripple, then kill, two vehicles a turn, and still have a real hammer unit to smash things with. If your opponent is running mostly infantry, then you could use the scarabs as tie-ups for shooty infantry, while your Destructors deal death to choppy infantry... and your Wraiths do their thing.

This is actually want I have been using in casual games since the Codex dropped.  When I tried it in a Tournament setting, I found that the scarabs just die, or are too small to make a difference.  Likewise, having only 1 Wraith unit made it too easy for my opponent to focus fire and kill them.

Thanks for the replies everyone, I think I am set with the Scarab/double Wraith combo.
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