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Title: "Demolisher Landcruiser" Any thoughts?
Post by: Col.Gravis on May 6, 2007, 03:17:28 PM
Right, anyone feel like lending me their brain, or rather any thougts on this they might have?

I've talked about it a few times, a Demolisher based on a Landraider hull, something more meaty then your standard russ and now I've got 10 days before I start it (for the 40k Online Conversion Contest), and the idea has evolved a little. Rather then just going for a large russ as I'd originally intended I've rationalised that really the Russ chasis should still form the core of my tanks - but I still want to do something of a center piece tank though, something unique.

So I want to go for something of a landship, something almost totally over the top stylisticly, a cross between steampunk and 40k.

I've no concept sketch yet, so if you can bare with me the idea is fairly simple, first off the hull remains that of a Landraider, the tracks are reversed so as to form the same romboid shape as a Russ, the assault ramp goes as do the sponson. On each flank a small fighting platform with one door (the other being sealed off), a rail or armoured wall around the platform with a gatling bolter (as with my Gatling Guns replacing Heaby Bolters) mounted on each with a crewman operating it. The forward twin-linked heavy bolter mounting of the landraider would be removed, using the pulpit left by its absense as a forward gatling gun position, again with a crewman.

That leaves the turret, I'm debating over an American Civil War Union Monitor style turret (probably with removeable top for interior detail), or an open topped artillery style position.

Yes its a hideiously over complex project in alot of ways, but this is something of a center piece for my GT army (and a nomination for best army in the heats gets you a free ticket to the final...)

Any suggestions folks? Especially on the turret, what do you think would work best? Hell Im open to suggestions on any part of the vehicle, any ideas for extras, or anything you think unplausable even.

Oh an yeah, it needs a name, Dreadnoughts out for obvious reasons and I'd rather avoid the word 'land' to avoid the whole landraider issue, it may be based on the hull of one but to all intents and purposes the two are completely unrelated.

Title: Re: "Demolisher Landcruiser" Any thoughts?
Post by: [dixon] on May 6, 2007, 03:21:06 PM
I'd certainly go for the Monitor-style turret over a gun emplacement.  If you're sticking with the general Land Raider shape, I'd be inclined to merge the two hatches into one giant Sponson type thing for either a gun nest or a 2nd Edition Predator style sponson.
Title: Re: "Demolisher Landcruiser" Any thoughts?
Post by: Parak on May 6, 2007, 05:54:31 PM
So somewhere between the tanks of WW1 and an empire steam tank?!?

I was thinking about the name juggernaught, but then I remembered the chaos mount...

This sounds like a cool conversion, if insanely comlex. What about an extra 'box ontop carrying the main gun, similar to that of early siege tanks, or alternatively, you could mount it in place of the assualt ramp. I'm gonna have to try some rough sketches.
Title: Re: "Demolisher Landcruiser" Any thoughts?
Post by: Ailaros on May 6, 2007, 06:57:40 PM
what if you made it a literal combination of gun and boat? I only have a few minutes to spare, but what if it looked a little like this?

(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wizardhat.com%2Fdove%2Fdemolisher1.jpg&hash=bfee5b3697e58802b6655ffd9b666bf2fb68e4eb)

(https://www.40konline.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wizardhat.com%2Fdove%2Fdemolisher2.jpg&hash=81ecb162a19da220e63bc721d35ee2cf7c51b634)

It's sort of a combination of boat and tank. On the "deck" you have the hull weapon in such a way where it looks like a ship's deck gun. The sponsons are open gunports, sort of like the DKoK ones. If you wanted to steampunk it more, you could add coal fired smokestacks out the back or something.

Anyways, just an idea.
Title: Re: "Demolisher Landcruiser" Any thoughts?
Post by: Dr_Ruminahui on May 6, 2007, 10:31:11 PM
I actually think "Monitor" is a good name.

Inquisitor Psychologis Ruminahui
Title: Re: "Demolisher Landcruiser" Any thoughts?
Post by: Corrupt on May 7, 2007, 06:57:01 AM
THis thing will either make me want to claw my eyes out at the Orkish horrow you create, or be absolutely amazing.
either way go for it!
WIsh I wasnt too lazy to just buy the kits...
Title: Re: "Demolisher Landcruiser" Any thoughts?
Post by: wellard on May 8, 2007, 05:02:20 PM
hi all,

colonel, try looking on the GW site (uk) when i attended the tank master class some one was making this, and he was using the baneblade turret, and built up the sponsons etc from pasterscard, i'll try and get the links
Title: Re: "Demolisher Landcruiser" Any thoughts?
Post by: ThePraetorian on May 8, 2007, 09:36:24 PM
not good with loading pics but the top pic on this link might help

http://www.ifelix.co.uk/epic1889.html
Title: Re: "Demolisher Landcruiser" Any thoughts?
Post by: Sergeant Olezka on May 8, 2007, 09:49:04 PM
Consider that steam leman russ stolen!

On that note I dont think the steam tank is a bit small for a platform. I guess he could extend it with some plasticard to make it bulkier.
Title: Re: "Demolisher Landcruiser" Any thoughts?
Post by: Valhalla114 on May 9, 2007, 09:06:57 PM
Steamin Russ! hahah. Cool concept by the way too. I like the model from that link I think it's to the tee! Very nice work there on whoever built that beast.
Title: Re: "Demolisher Landcruiser" Any thoughts?
Post by: Cpl. Lee on May 11, 2007, 10:02:38 AM
that steam tank russ is legendary!

i think you should really look at a stretched chimera/russ chassis then base something a bit higher - i like the idea of the ragnarok - that looks crawler-ish.

just extend your base - the wider it is - the more imposing it will look. that seems to be the idea with 'lumbering' vehicles anyways...