hey guys, just my ten-pennerth.
There seems to be an opinion on this forum regarding abilities and traits that the rational goes llike this...
Unit X of Army Y has this ability for a cheaper cost than a harlie troupe so why should the harlies not have this?
The problem is when we have several traits all used together eachof which is justified in this way.
Harlies have a 4" asaault range cos Nids do and thay are cheaper
Harlies should get a 4+ inv save because X Y and Z do and they are all cheaper and so on.
You have to look at the whole picture. Each trait or additional bonus makes the unit that much harder. You cannot base a justification for an attribute on specific cases. You need to balance the points on how effective the unit would be as a whole.
I recently completed a league with several very experience players and we tried the EO codex.
Too Powerful! WAY to powerful. I won every game, hands down, easily. EVERY game.
Masque of the Dark Veil is so overwhelmingly cheesy! In one game my entire army got into CC in turn 1, I wiped out Blood Angels, ALL of them in turn 1 barring 2 terminators who were easily despatched in my opponants combat phase.
I would suggest that Dark Veil is is used to nominat a point no closer than 12" to an enemy unit.
There is a problem with looted vehicles and Dark Veil. I would submit that since you state looted vehicles cannot move through the webway, you could not combine looted vehicles and dark veil.
I thnk the re-roll failed to wound in the charge is more than a little beardy. We get silly numbers of attacks and now you want to re-roll wounds as well? That is the only thing that balances Harlie CC attacks the fact that it is harder to wound some opponants.
On the whole though I think the list is going in braodly the right direction.
Above all I think we need to constantly platy devils advocate and try and balance the army fairly to make it playable and fun for our opponants as well as us.
Plus of course getting the damn thing recognised as, basically even my game club has stated this list os too cheesy so I cannot use this list anywhere.
Paul.