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Re: A Lethal Elegance: SeekingOne's Eldar blog
« Reply #20 on: December 4, 2017, 07:51:30 PM »
That face is amazing! The hood looks great as well.
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Re: A Lethal Elegance: SeekingOne's Eldar blog
« Reply #21 on: December 5, 2017, 05:59:17 AM »
Yep. That face looks damn near photo-realistic.

Agreed that it's rare (and brilliant!) to have a face that looks that grizzled, realistic and characterful. Especially on an eldar who tend to be pretty polished :)
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Re: A Lethal Elegance: SeekingOne's Eldar blog
« Reply #22 on: December 8, 2017, 07:52:32 AM »
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Many thanks for your kind words people!  :) Your support is invaluable.



Had a couple more painting sessions. First, let me show a couple of pics to further illustrate the techniques I use.
So, when you cover such detail as a gem with liquid mask, it's inevitable that some of the mask will flow onto the surrounding surface. As a result, when you remove the mask, some of the primer will be showing around the gem:


This is not a problem here because white primer can be easily overpainted with an appropriate shade of red. In the end, no one who doesn't know what to look for would ever notice anything.

Still, this is something to keep in mind if you wish to try this kind of technique out.

Generally, airbrushing works ideal when you can work on a single separate part that has to be mostly one colour. Because of this, painting in sub-assemblies is essential if you want to get the most out of an airbrush. However, sometimes a model is one-piece, and sometimes keeping it in subassemblies is just not practical. In this case, if you still want to airbrush different areas of the model with different colours, liquid mask is what makes it possible. However, you should always keep in mind that
1) applying mask takes time
2) removing it also takes time
3) mask will inevitably leave a line of slightly jagged paint along its border, and you'll need to tidy it up.

As a result, if it's something relatively small, it's usually still quicker to just paint it by hand. The technique that I use with those gems on bikes is a kind of an exception to that - it works for me because I can airbrush any number of those gems in like 5-10 minutes, while hand-blending colours on them would take me hours (due to their large size). Hence despite the extra fuss with the mask, it's still worth it.

With the details on the bike mostly done, I completed all small details on the rider:

Now it was time for the most tedious but also probably the most rewarding stage: black-lining and extreme highlights on the red armour.

First I outlined all armour plates and other details using a thin mix of dark red ink with black and violet airbrush paints. GW recommends doing it with a "recess wash", but using washes at this stage, even if you use them in a controlled manner, is still messy, and besides the end result dramatically lacks contrast. So I use what effectively looks like black-red paint, thinned down and mixed with some acrylic retarder for maximum control, and just paint in thin dark lines into all the recesses.

This picture is not of the best quality, but because of that it showcases the resulting effect really well. When you look at the picture, you don't really see much of those dark lines, but you simply notice that all armour details stand out much more clearly against each other than they did on the previous pictures. I heard some painters calling this "a comic-book style", implying that it looks cartoonish and unrealistic, but I actually find it rather natural and believable.

As a (semi-)side note, there was once an interview with Jes Goodwin (I think it was dedicated to the release of the new Dark Eldar model range somewhere in 2009-2010). In that interview Jes, absolute genious as he is, said one thing that I remember to this day. Can't recreate the exact words, but the idea was that in order to look good, a model doesn't have to be realistic, but it has to be believable and easily recognisable for what it is. At that moment I realised that this is indeed the principle that governs everything in modelling and painting: things, first and foremost, have to look believable and recognisable. Considering this style of painting Eldar armour, it certainly doesn't look "realistic" in the exact sense of the meaning - but, with all plates clearly defined and standing out, it does confer a very clear feeling of some kind of a protective suite built of rigid plates, and therefore looks like it means business. Or at least that's how I see it, lol

So, black-lining was followed by the first extreme highlight (Wild Rider Red):

... and the second highlight (Fire Dragon Bright).


Even on this washed-out picture you can see that the armour plates now have some definition :)

What's left with the rider is one more highlight stage on red and highlight on hair. Then the same highlights on red parts of bike, base, and it's done :)

To be continued :)
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Re: A Lethal Elegance: SeekingOne's Eldar blog
« Reply #23 on: December 8, 2017, 03:59:03 PM »
Absolutely sick! Love the black edging... its something I do only on my special models, but something I really need to look at implementing a bit more often. Just brilliant work... about your edge highlighting... your jump straight from Mephiston to Wild Rider looks great! I usually use Evil Sunz Scarlett in between... but it doesnt look necessary at all on this model and I'm trying to figure out why it doesn't look like the stark difference I'd usually expect ... Did you use a brighter shade of red than Mephiston or is it just unnecessary? Maybe Mephiston across an entire model just looks different than using it as a highlight on a Khorne base like I implement.

Anyway just brilliant, brilliant stuff. Loving this project to death. Great stuff SeekingOne, thanks!
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Re: A Lethal Elegance: SeekingOne's Eldar blog
« Reply #24 on: December 8, 2017, 06:29:04 PM »
Niiiiice!
Thank you so much for the tutelage, mate. Used to use liquid masking when airbrushing back in my signwriting days. Using it on such a small scale must be very interesting... Pointy ears forever!!

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Re: A Lethal Elegance: SeekingOne's Eldar blog
« Reply #25 on: December 8, 2017, 07:09:29 PM »
Gorgeous paint job. Thank you so much for the step-by-step instructions. I love seeing the WIP photos with details of how you achieved those results. I certainly helps me see avenues I've never thought of exploring before. Keep 'em coming!

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Re: A Lethal Elegance: SeekingOne\'s Eldar blog
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2017, 02:22:44 PM »
@All

Thank you for your kind words guys, very-very much appreciated!

@Cavalier
but it doesnt look necessary at all on this model and I'm trying to figure out why it doesn't look like the stark difference I'd usually expect ... Did you use a brighter shade of red than Mephiston or is it just unnecessary? Maybe Mephiston across an entire model just looks different than using it as a highlight on a Khorne base like I implement.


Thing is, I don't use Mephiston or any GW reds (except the highliht oranges). The magic paint that works as the key ingredient for my red is this:

It's an airbrush-specific paint, but it's really-really good - bright, clean, yet at the same time it's still red enough to look red rather than red-orange.
Here, I made a reference to show the difference between colours:

The colours in this picture look not 100% like in real life, but the difference is visible enough.
As you can see from the labels, in the top row there are GW colours - Khorne red, Mephiston red, Evil Sunz scarlet. For comparison, the bottom row is the colours that I use. Shade is a mix of Vallejo Game Air Scarlet Red and Hexed Lichen (2:1), basically a very dark red-violet. Mid-tone is a mix of Vallejo Model Air Red RLM23 and Schminke Brilliant Red (2:1). Highlight is pure Schminke Brilliant Red.
My shade colour looks very dark - but airbrush enables me to apply it in very thin transparent layers, making shades as soft or as dark as I need. Mid-tone, as you can (hopefully :)) see in the picture, is a tad lighter than Mephiston, and highlight is every bit as bright as Evil Sunz. As you might remember from my earlier post, I do the highlights by covering the highlighted areas with white first, and then glazing over it with my highlight colour. This keeps highlights very bright. Figuring out this combination of paints and the 'technology' of their application took me three months of experimenting at some point  ;D

Let me use the jetbike wing as an example:

The shade along the centre line of the wing is effectively darker than Khorne red, yet highlights along the outer edges of the wing are as bright as Evil Sunz - thus, Wild Rider red goes very naturally and smoothly as the next highlight step. Note that despite fairly stark contrast, the colour transition is quite smooth - that's the wonder of airbrushing!

Anyway, hope this answers your question! :)

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Time for update!

The final highlight on the red armour is made with a 1:2 mix of Fire Dragon Bright with light bone colour like Screaming Skull. Really love this step, as it really makes the red shine :)


Here's the completed body of the jetbike, with all highlights in place.


And, finally - here he is, the High Autarch of Saim-Hann, bearer of the Novalance, known in mon-keigh tongues as "The White Snake".

Don't ask me why he's known as "The White Snake" - this name just came to me when I was thinking of his personal heraldry to display in one of the flags. I like the sound of it though, as well as the subtle connotations of age, cunning and the merciless killing bite, as well as the parallel with the world serpent symbol of Saim-Hann.

The model was complete on Wednesday, and he already led the forces of Saim-Hann to two crushing victories on Saturday. Here's a group shot that I made at the club :)


On to the Shining Spears!

To be continued :)
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Re: A Lethal Elegance: SeekingOne's Eldar blog
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2017, 04:36:59 PM »
great work and seeing a painted themed army on the table is just so sweet!

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Re: A Lethal Elegance: SeekingOne's Eldar blog
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2017, 06:35:14 PM »
OH-MY-GIDDY-AUNT!
You've done an amazing job on that piece, SO.Thank you for taking the time on the colour chart as well... Pointy ears forever!!

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Re: A Lethal Elegance: SeekingOne's Eldar blog
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2017, 06:08:35 AM »
WOW! Just an incredible job SeekingOne. I dig the name too! Thanks for the tutorial, it looks like a good amount of work but it came out great. Man the rune covering the jetbike is just phenomenal. The weathering/shading on it is just sick. Also what an awesome group shot. Fantastic stuff Seekingone, some of the best I've seen on the forum. Keep rocking bud this stuff is amazing!
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Re: A Lethal Elegance: SeekingOne's Eldar blog
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2017, 04:40:10 AM »
SeekingOne, your Autarch has come out ridiculously well. Everything is blended so smoothly and the brush work matches or exceeds the airbrushing. Your eye for detail really is impressive.

Thank you too, for the level of detail you put into your posts. They must take an age to put together, but really help the community learn a lot about how you paint to such an unbelievable standard.

Amazing work. Thank you for sharing!
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Re: A Lethal Elegance: SeekingOne's Eldar blog
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2018, 04:21:10 AM »
Damn that's an incredible autarch :)

Also, how about this for his name. When on attack runs, his artifact jetbike emits a blinding trail of light behind it at full speed. To onlookers from a distance, the afterglow of this appears as if a colossal shining serpent has materialised snaking across the battlefield, with its head an even brighter flare from his deadly nova lance.

Hence, the White Snake :)
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Re: A Lethal Elegance: SeekingOne's Eldar blog
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2018, 09:50:09 AM »
I'm totally picturing a Tron bike when you said that Ynneadwrath. That would be some awesome imagery on the battlefield.

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Re: A Lethal Elegance: SeekingOne's Eldar blog
« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2018, 07:05:26 AM »
@All

Thanks for your kind words guys! Glad that you like the model  :D

I wish I could post some updates, but I found myself kind of stuck between severe lack of free
time and inability to figure out a good colour scheme for Shining Spears, and my work is sort of grinding in place not moving anywhere.

BTW, Id be grateful for any examples of some cool-looking Shining Spear colour schemes, preferably in blues. The problem is that their base scheme is kind of bleak and unimpressive; I'm trying to come up with some more good-looking variation but with little success so far.

Also, how about this for his name. When on attack runs, his artifact jetbike emits a blinding trail of light behind it at full speed. To onlookers from a distance, the afterglow of this appears as if a colossal shining serpent has materialised snaking across the battlefield, with its head an even brighter flare from his deadly nova lance.

Hence, the White Snake :)
Ynnead, I told you you should write for Black Library, didn't I? ;) This is an absolutely awesome image, and I'll definitely incorporate it into my army's background if you don't mind. Picturing this in my mind's eye is quite literally breathtaking!
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Re: A Lethal Elegance: SeekingOne's Eldar blog
« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2018, 05:22:09 PM »
BTW, Id be grateful for any examples of some cool-looking Shining Spear colour schemes, preferably in blues. The problem is that their base scheme is kind of bleak and unimpressive; I'm trying to come up with some more good-looking variation but with little success so far.

Why not keep the black and red going? Then just give their lances and helms a different colour so they stand out a bit more. A full themed army looks awesome :)


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Re: A Lethal Elegance: SeekingOne's Eldar blog
« Reply #35 on: Today at 09:46:19 AM »
Haha thanks man :) glad you like it!

I'm also a big fan of craftworld-coloured Aspects, albeit with variations like shadier Scorpions/Reapers or ethereal Hawks/Banshees.

Not for everyone I know. The whole 'army of many colours' is pretty iconic for eldar for a lot of people :)
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